#UFchat – chat for urban fantasy writers

Transcript for October 30, 2010: Why We Need Monsters! (& Halloween Too)

Here’s our Halloween edition of #UFchat – which happened somehow despite all sorts of computer and health issue craziness at #UFchat headquarters! I expected a tiny turnout due to weekend Halloween parties but we had plenty of opinions and ideas contributing, which was wonderful to see. πŸ™‚

If you're interested in helping out by being my 'emergency back-up co-moderator' please contact me and let me know!
It'd be awesome to have emergency back-up for the session and also to help get the transcript up within a couple of days
if I have computer &/or toddler issues delaying me. Please @inkgypsy or DM me for details. πŸ™‚

TOPIC: Why We Need Monsters! (& the Importance of Halloween)

We get into all kinds of classic monsters, not-so-classic monsters, urban legends, urban myths-in-the-making, dealing with fear and much more! There are a TON of resources at the end of this week’s transcript, including some fun lists for reading and viewing (and don’t forget to add The X-Files series to your viewing lists)!

Official UFchat questions in YELLOW for easier reading.

Resources/ topic-related links are in BLUE.

Also: it’s National Novel Writing Month! Or NaNoWriMo (or just NaNo for even shorter). Hoping to hear news of all the fantastic UF novels taking shape this month and I wish you luck every day in meeting your word counts and beyond! Happy writing! May all your monsters be ones you love to write… πŸ˜‰

One final announcement: if anyone comes across the story of the zombie toddler being fed by it’s human parents, please let me know! (There is much interest in finding this one – you will be loved by many if you can hunt this one down.) Google has lost much of its “fu” in the recent ‘upgrades’ and despite knowing the short story very well, including actual phrases I can quote I cannot find it! The author is female, the story is available to read free online and someone on Twitter originally posted it as a guest entry on their blog, though I don’t think it was specifically UF related at the time, nor on the topic of Halloween. It may actually have been posted on the theme of parents.. with a possible title of “The Terrible Twos” (or similar). Many thanks for all hunters tracking this story!

And now without further ado, here’s the transcript and all the monster related goodness… πŸ˜‰

12:02 am shadowflame1974: @inkgypsy #UFchat maybe because of the difficulty of the hybrid. seems to reason that if weres produced like wild cousins wed be up to 1/2
12:02 am shadowflame1974: @inkgypsy #UFchat our eyeballs in baby weres. might make humans a lot uncomfortable.
12:16 am inkgypsy: @Laura_Bickle Just going thru #UFchat transcript & saw your question re zombie toddler story. Will re-find it shortly & link you.
12:17 am inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 Maybe all toddlers really are weres on the brink and have to choose… πŸ˜‰ #UFchat #saystoddlermom
12:18 am inkgypsy: @JSterlingS Will link you to toddler zombie story when I find it – looking after transcript up. πŸ™‚ #UFchat
12:19 am shadowflame1974: @inkgypsy lol wait until they are teens #UFchat #saysteenmom sometimes you WISH they would choose!
1:00 am inkgypsy: Strange, (awesome) weird post on pregnant zombie females encouraged NOT to eat their babies… http://bit.ly/9KYpsY #UFchat
1:29 am UF_Chat: Transcript for #UFchat Pt II Minorities & Other Missing Persons is UP! http://alturl.com/vebvy
1:29 am inkgypsy: Transcript for #UFchat Pt II Minorities & Other Missing Persons is UP! http://alturl.com/vebvy
October 28, 2010
12:26 am UF_Chat: Got a Halloween/haunted blog post going up urban fantasist’s will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
12:26 am inkgypsy: Got a Halloween/haunted blog post going up urban fantasist’s will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
12:28 am UF_Chat: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
12:28 am inkgypsy: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
12:28 am inkgypsy: @Jamgrrl Thanks lady! Pls use #UFchat hashtag if you can – it’ll help me collect them. πŸ™‚
12:29 am Cher_Dawn: RT @inkgypsy Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
12:32 am manda903: RT @inkgypsy: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
12:32 am JLCoburn: RT @inkgypsy: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
12:34 am CoachCMJ: RT @inkgypsy: Got a Halloween/haunted blog post going up urban fantasist’s will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
12:36 am Sourcerer: RT @inkgypsy: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
12:39 am inkgypsy: #UFchat RT @thefourpartland: “What happens when you cage the beast without? – The Letter – http://bit.ly/9hyTZg #horror
12:40 am amergina: RT @UF_Chat Got a Halloween/haunted blog post urban fantasist’s will enjoy? Add #UFchat I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
12:48 am jeanettemarsh: RT @inkgypsy Got a Halloween/haunted blog post going up urban fantasist’s will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links.
12:53 am deborahblake: RT @UF_Chat: Got a Halloween/haunted blog post going up urban fantasist’s will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
12:53 am JayelKaye: RT @UF_Chat: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
1:17 am AnassaRh: RT @inkgypsy: Got a Halloween/haunted blog post going up urban fantasist’s will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
1:19 am ElleMoonGoddess: RT @UF_Chat: Got a Halloween/haunted blog post going up urban fantasist’s will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
2:08 am Suzanne_Johnson: Urban fantasy and paranormal romance fans–check out 40 new releases coming in November! #paranormal #romance #ufchat http://bit.ly/bzvwb9
2:10 am wastepaperprose: RT @Suzanne_Johnson: Urban fantasy and paranormal romance fans–check out 40 new releases coming in November! #paranormal #romance #ufchat http://bit.ly/bzvwb9
2:11 am specficdb: RT @Suzanne_Johnson: Urban fantasy and paranormal romance fans–check out 40 new releases coming in November! #paranormal #romance #ufchat http://bit.ly/bzvwb9
2:13 am specficdb: @Suzanne_Johnson so many great authors who need to be listed at specficdb.com! #paranormal #romance #ufchat
2:14 am bethaniey: @Suzanne_Johnson so many great authors who need to be listed at specficdb.com! #paranormal #romance #ufchat
2:14 am bethaniey: Urban fantasy and paranormal romance fans–check out 40 new releases coming in November! #paranormal #romance #ufchat http://bit.ly/bzvwb9
2:15 am inkgypsy: Got Halloween/haunted/monster blog post urban fantasy peeps will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
2:15 am UF_Chat: Got Halloween/haunted/monster blog post urban fantasy peeps will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
2:16 am Suzanne_Johnson: RT @specficdb: @Suzanne_Johnson so many great authors who need to be listed at specficdb.com! #paranormal #romance #ufchat
2:17 am jolantru: Paranormals in Singapore: http://awolfstale.wordpress.com/2010/08/23/writing-about-non-humans-and-the-paranormal-in-singapore/ #UFchat
2:22 am Sarah_Bromley: @inkgypsy I just did a Halloween reading/watching blog post earlier today and mention some YA UF. http://tinyurl.com/29wqyxv #UFchat
2:29 am talechasing: RT @UF_Chat: Got Halloween/haunted/monster blog post urban fantasy peeps will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
2:29 am specficdb: RT @UF_Chat: Got Halloween/haunted/monster blog post urban fantasy peeps will enjoy? Add #UFchat hashtag. I’ll collect & publish links on official blog!
2:32 am LaylaMessner: RT @UF_Chat: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
2:45 am bethaniey: RT @specficdb: @Suzanne_Johnson so many great authors who need to be listed at specficdb.com! #paranormal #romance #ufchat
1:11 pm Suzanne_Johnson: List of 67 November releases in #paranormal #romance, #scifi, urban fantasy #UFchat, and #fantasy–good stuff http://bit.ly/aSCxNg
1:27 pm bethaniey: List of 67 November releases in #paranormal #romance, #scifi, urban fantasy #UFchat, and #fantasy–good stuff http://bit.ly/aSCxNg
2:11 pm UF_Chat: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
2:11 pm inkgypsy: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
2:13 pm simonm223: RT @UF_Chat: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
2:16 pm tadbo: RT @inkgypsy: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
2:21 pm shadowflame1974: RT @UF_Chat: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
2:22 pm lil_monmon: RT @UF_Chat: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
2:26 pm Puppetguy: Yes! RT @inkgypsy Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
2:26 pm lil_monmon: #fridayflash Dare you try the bottomless coffee at DR. FRANKENSTEIN’S HOUSE OF PANCAKES? http://tinyurl.com/2a5lmav #UFchat
2:27 pm FutureNostalgic: RT @lil_monmon: #fridayflash Dare you try the bottomless coffee at DR. FRANKENSTEIN’S HOUSE OF PANCAKES? http://tinyurl.com/2a5lmav #UFchat
2:36 pm WerewolfMike: RT @lil_monmon: #fridayflash Dare you try the bottomless coffee at DR. FRANKENSTEIN’S HOUSE OF PANCAKES? http://tinyurl.com/2a5lmav #UFchat
2:37 pm Patti_OShea: RT @inkgypsy: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
2:59 pm J_GriffinB: RT @UF_Chat: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
4:52 pm AnassaRh: This one’s not mine, but definitely fits the #ufchat Halloween call! Gnomes in Latin America: http://bit.ly/dcUtOE
5:00 pm AnassaRh: RT @inkgypsy: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
6:15 pm Jamgrrl: I’ve posted on Indie Urban Fantasy: Argentina Gnome: Creepy Reality? Or Just a Hoax? http://bit.ly/b9cynL #ufchat #fairies #paranormal
6:16 pm Jamgrrl: RT @inkgypsy: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
October 29, 2010
3:02 am MarshaAMoore: RT @Suzanne_Johnson: Urban fantasy/paranormal romance fans-40 new releases coming November!#paranormal #romance #ufchat http://bit.ly/bzvwb9
3:49 am annikkawoods: RT @UF_Chat: Please RT my call for Halloween & monster blog posts – help me promote your blog and writing this weekend! #UFchat
7:04 am GraylinFox: Halloween Blog TourοΏ½Stop: http://wp.me/p11In3-77 #blogtour #horror #fantasy #halloween #UFChat
7:16 am LiiaAnn: Ooohhh gruesome!! I Love it! RT @GraylinFox Halloween Blog Tour Stop: http://wp.me/p11In3-77 #blogtour #horror #fantasy #halloween #UFChat
2:14 pm Suzanne_Johnson: Who’s the urban fantasy character you hate the most? Bella? Anita? Vampire Bill? Voldemort? http://bit.ly/aaxxeX #UFchat
6:42 pm NancyHolzner: It’s Walking Dead Week on Dark Central Station. Zombie posts and book giveaways! http://darkcentralstation.com/ #UFchat
9:00 pm AnassaRh: My blog today combines the last #ufchat topic with tomorrow’s: http://bit.ly/96o3Kr I also tell a personal story.
11:14 pm UF_Chat: Dashing in to borrowed computer to say YES #UFchat is definitely ON tomorrow! (3pm PST) TOPIC: Why we need Monsters! (& Halloween too) PlsRT
11:14 pm inkgypsy: Dashing in to borrowed computer to say YES #UFchat is definitely ON tomorrow! (3pm PST) TOPIC: Why we need Monsters! (& Halloween too) PlsRT
11:16 pm leapetra: RT @UF_Chat: #UFchat is definitely ON tomorrow! (3pm PST) TOPIC: Why we need Monsters! (& Halloween too) (i might be drunk tweeting shhhh)
11:20 pm Queryaddict: RT @UF_Chat: Dashing in to borrowed computer to say YES #UFchat is definitely ON tomorrow! (3pm PST) TOPIC: Why we need Monsters! (& Halloween too) PlsRT
11:24 pm SpiceBites: RT @inkgypsy: Dashing in to borrowed computer to say YES #UFchat is definitely ON tomorrow! (3pm PST) TOPIC: Why we need Monsters! (& Halloween too) PlsRT
11:24 pm JulieeJohnsonn: Hey everyone! Ohhh! Great topic for #ufchat on Sat 6pm EST: Why we need monsters! Hope I can make it! RT @leapetra @UF_Chat
11:24 pm ShennandoahDiaz: RT @inkgypsy: Dashing in to borrowed computer to say YES #UFchat is definitely ON tomorrow! (3pm PST) TOPIC: Why we need Monsters! (& Halloween too) PlsRT
11:25 pm jeremymcnabb: RT @UF_Chat: Dashing in to borrowed computer to say YES #UFchat is definitely ON tomorrow! (3pm PST) TOPIC: Why we need Monsters! (& Halloween too) PlsRT
11:50 pm Kalayna: RT @UF_Chat: Dashing in to borrowed computer to say YES #UFchat is definitely ON tomorrow! (3pm PST) TOPIC: Why we need Monsters! (& Halloween too) PlsRT
October 30, 2010
1:32 am MarciSischo: RT @UF_Chat: Dashing in to borrowed computer to say YES #UFchat is definitely ON tomorrow! (3pm PST) TOPIC: Why we need Monsters! (& Halloween too) PlsRT
2:30 am J_GriffinB: At UF party at #ufchat
6:32 am AnassaRh: Late night people, have you seen my latest blog post? Monsters, folktales, and a story. http://bit.ly/96o3Kr #ufchat
2:30 pm UF_Chat: Monsters With Human Faces – a For-Real! Guest Post by Emmett Spain (@oldhauntsauthor) http://bit.ly/ceoJvf #UFchat
2:30 pm inkgypsy: Monsters With Human Faces – a For-Real! Guest Post by Emmett Spain (@oldhauntsauthor) http://bit.ly/ceoJvf #UFchat
3:50 pm inkgypsy: Been up all night on borrowed computer prepping for today’s Halloween #UFchat – getting some quick shut-eye. Back in a few hours!
3:51 pm AnassaRh: RTing my blog again in case anyone hasn’t seen it. Folklore! Urban legends! A call to writers! http://bit.ly/96o3Kr #ufchat
5:00 pm inkgypsy: The Halloween edition of #UFchat is on today at 3pm PST/6pm EST! join us to discuss Why We Need Monsters! (& Halloween too) #UFchat
5:00 pm UF_Chat: The Halloween edition of #UFchat is on today at 3pm PST/6pm EST! join us to discuss Why We Need Monsters! (& Halloween too) #UFchat
7:00 pm inkgypsy: 3 hour countdown to #UFchat – The Halloween edition! 3pm PST/6pm EST Pls RT
7:02 pm edentyler: RT @inkgypsy: 3 hour countdown to #UFchat – The Halloween edition! 3pm PST/6pm EST Pls RT
7:02 pm AnassaRh: RT @inkgypsy: 3 hour countdown to #UFchat – The Halloween edition! 3pm PST/6pm EST Pls RT
7:13 pm tadbo: RT @inkgypsy: 3 hour countdown to #UFchat – The Halloween edition! 3pm PST/6pm EST Pls RT
8:00 pm UF_Chat: 2 hours countdown to #UFchat today! TOPIC: Why We Need Monsters (and of course Halloween!) 3PM PST/6PM EST
8:00 pm inkgypsy: 2 hours countdown to #UFchat today! TOPIC: Why We Need Monsters (and of course Halloween!) 3PM PST/6PM EST
8:01 pm talechasing: RT @UF_Chat: 2 hours countdown to #UFchat today! TOPIC: Why We Need Monsters (and of course Halloween!) 3PM PST/6PM EST
8:02 pm specficdb: RT @UF_Chat: 2 hours countdown to #UFchat today! TOPIC: Why We Need Monsters (and of course Halloween!) 3PM PST/6PM EST
8:43 pm inkgypsy: So tired! Need coffee.. And a miracle to keep Jackzilla from eating me alive, er, allowing me to do #UFchat without the usual Daddy-help…
8:52 pm leapetra: RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat today! TOPIC: Why We Need Monsters (and of course Halloween!) 3PM PST/6PM EST
8:53 pm UF_Chat: In line with today’s #UFchat topic: Monsters With Human Faces by Emmett Spain (@oldhauntsauthor) http://bit.ly/ceoJvf
8:53 pm inkgypsy: In line with today’s #UFchat topic: Monsters With Human Faces by Emmett Spain (@oldhauntsauthor) http://bit.ly/ceoJvf
8:55 pm rbwood: @inkgypsy @oldhauntsauthor That explains his mugshot on my website. πŸ™‚ #UFchat #NOWitallmakessense
8:56 pm shadowflame1974: RT @inkgypsy: In line with today’s #UFchat topic: Monsters With Human Faces by Emmett Spain (@oldhauntsauthor) http://bit.ly/ceoJvf
9:00 pm UF_Chat: 1 hour to go till we talk Monsters of all kinds and why we NEED them in our UF (& have some Halloween fun too) #UFchat 3pm PST/6pm EST
9:07 pm UF_Chat: Here’s a pic to give you an idea of why we need monsters in our fiction… #UFchat http://twitpic.com/32c6rk
9:08 pm UF_Chat: http://twitpic.com/32c6rk – A little visual extra for the serious undercurrent of today’s #UFchat.. πŸ˜‰
9:11 pm UF_Chat: An early chunk of food for thought for today’s #UFchat: Monsters and the Meat-ness of Us http://bit.ly/cy1M54 #UFchat (Yum!)
9:11 pm inkgypsy: An early chunk of food for thought for today’s #UFchat: Monsters and the Meat-ness of Us http://bit.ly/cy1M54 #UFchat (Yum!)
9:21 pm leapetra: I am going to try to make it to chat tonight, but our party starts at the same time, most invited come late though #ufchat
9:30 pm inkgypsy: 30 minutes till we go monster hunting and hugging! (with stakes) We need our monsters & we’ll tell you why during #UFchat 3pm PST/6pm EST
9:32 pm AnassaRh: RT @inkgypsy: 30 minutes till we go monster hunting and hugging! (with stakes) We need our monsters & we’ll tell you why during #UFchat 3pm PST/6pm EST
9:34 pm SpiceBites: RT @inkgypsy: 30 minutes till we go monster hunting and hugging! (with stakes) We need our monsters & we’ll tell you why during #UFchat 3pm PST/6pm EST
9:45 pm inkgypsy: Bong! Bong! 15 minute bell for Monster Hunters gathering for today’s Halloween edition of #UFchat! 3pm PST/6pm EST
9:45 pm UF_Chat: Bong! Bong! 15 minute bell for Monster Hunters gathering for today’s Halloween edition of #UFchat! 3pm PST/6pm EST
9:48 pm tadbo: RT @inkgypsy: Bong! Bong! 15 minute bell for Monster Hunters gathering for today’s Halloween edition of #UFchat! 3pm PST/6pm EST
9:50 pm inkgypsy: Primer for #UFchat early birds #1: Monsters With Human Faces by Emmett Spain (@oldhauntsathor) http://bit.ly/ceoJvf #UFchat
9:50 pm wildbloom: @inkgypsy Have fun on #UFChat! Wish I could be there but dinner’s calling! πŸ™‚
9:51 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @inkgypsy You know I only come here for the primers. #ufchat
9:51 pm JonBrazerEnt: RT @UF_Chat: Here’s a pic to give you an idea of why we need monsters in our fiction… #UFchat http://twitpic.com/32c6rk
9:55 pm UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds #2: Monsters and the Moral Imagination http://bit.ly/1uvGER #UFchat
9:55 pm leapetra: no guests yet. I am here for the chat #ufchat
9:56 pm AnassaRh: Sitting down, getting ready for #ufchat.
9:57 pm jterzieff: RT @inkgypsy: Primer for #UFchat early birds #1: Monsters With Human Faces by Emmett Spain (@oldhauntsathor) http://bit.ly/ceoJvf #UFchat
9:57 pm jterzieff: RT @UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds #2: Monsters and the Moral Imagination http://bit.ly/1uvGER #UFchat
9:57 pm leapetra: my son is at the party dressed as Walter Sullivan a character form Silent hill that really needs to slay his monsters. #ufchat
9:57 pm rcmurphy: @inkgypsy I would love to come play in #UFchat, but duty calls. Gotta prep to play vampire tonight. Have fun. I’ll read trough later!
9:58 pm inkgypsy: We?re talking about why we NEED monsters (yes ? ?need?) both in fiction and IRL & why Halloween is such an important ?holiday?. #UFchat
9:58 pm UF_Chat: We?re talking about why we NEED monsters (yes ? ?need?) both in fiction and IRL & why Halloween is such an important ?holiday?. #UFchat
9:58 pm Sarah_Bromley: is getting ready for some #ufchat. Don’t get to do this chat much–falls during dinner time. Know I can’t stay too long tonight.
9:59 pm jterzieff: RT @UF_Chat: We?re talking about why we NEED monsters (yes ? ?need?) both in fiction and IRL & why Halloween is such an important ?holiday?. #UFchat
9:59 pm shadowflame1974: RT @UF_Chat: We?re talking about why we NEED monsters (yes ? ?need?) both in fiction and IRL & why Halloween is such an important ?holiday?. #UFchat
9:59 pm AnassaRh: RT @UF_Chat: We?re talking about why we NEED monsters (yes ? ?need?) both in fiction and IRL & why Halloween is such an important ?holiday?. #UFchat
10:00 pm UF_Chat: 3, 2… & now live with #UFchat! Welcome back the Halloween edition of #UFchat!
10:00 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat We need monsters to know we can slay our fears! #ufchat
10:00 pm Sarah_Bromley: Happy Halloween! #ufchat
10:01 pm UF_Chat: TODAY: We?ll be discussing importance of monsters (we NEED them!) and also of Halloween ? and have some light-hearted fun too. πŸ˜‰ #UFchat
10:02 pm SpiceBites: Made it! Happy Halloween to y’all! #UFChat
10:02 pm JSterlingS: We need monsters so that we can confront the best and worst of human nature. Frankenstein wasn’t about fear but intolerance. #ufchat
10:02 pm inkgypsy: Also ? if you have blogged/posted a Halloween/haunted/UF friendly post this week tweet it now with the #UFchat hashtag!
10:02 pm MariAdkins: @UF_Chat @shadowflame1974 today’s halloween flat out sucks. imho. #UFchat
10:02 pm shadowflame1974: #UFchat We need monsters because it is not politically correct to point at the RL monsters
10:02 pm UF_Chat: OOps-wrong identity. Also ? if you have blogged/posted a Halloween/haunted/UF friendly post this week tweet it now with the #UFchat hashtag!
10:03 pm UF_Chat: Reminder: ?S? stands for statement which will be followed by a ?Q? (a related #UFchat question for discussion).
10:03 pm Sarah_Bromley: I like monsters to be thoughtful nemesis and less brainless killing machine #ufchat
10:03 pm UF_Chat: Q1: It?s Halloween! Time for monsters. πŸ˜€ Can you list the classic (sentient) figures/monsters? (I count 8 big classics & 2 sortas) #UFchat
10:04 pm Sarah_Bromley: Here’s my blog post on Halloween reading & watching http://tinyurl.com/29wqyxv #ufchat
10:04 pm UF_Chat: Just me and Jackzilla the toddler here today so pls forgive me for odd delays here and there! #UFchat
10:04 pm AnassaRh: My monster post: http://bit.ly/96o3Kr #ufchat
10:05 pm leapetra: vampire, werewolf, mummy, Frankenstein, witch, creature from the black lagoon #ufchat
10:05 pm shadowflame1974: @MariAdkins #UFchat yea it does. we are going to the park tonight… “safe” halloween my arse
10:05 pm UF_Chat: Do we have anyone here today or is everyone still working on their costumes for tomorrow…? #UFchat
10:06 pm JSterlingS: A: Frankenstein, Dracula, Elmo, Chuckie, Gizmo, Bert, Godzilla, Mothra….. #ufchat
10:06 pm UF_Chat: RT @AnassaRh: My monster post: http://bit.ly/96o3Kr #ufchat
10:06 pm leapetra: a guest post by Chris Kelly bit.ly/d2s5Mu #ufchat
10:06 pm UF_Chat: @JSterlingS Oh Bert! Of course! LOL #ufchat
10:06 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat I am wearing my costume! #ufchat
10:06 pm Sarah_Bromley: @leapetra @Uf_Chat Don’t forget zombies int he list of monsters #ufchat
10:06 pm AnassaRh: Vampire, werewolf, demon, Frankenstein’s monster, witch, ghost, zombie? Stumped now. 😦 #ufchat
10:06 pm tadbo: RT @inkgypsy: Also ? if you have blogged/posted a Halloween/haunted/UF friendly post this week tweet it now with the #UFchat hashtag!
10:07 pm UF_Chat: S: My list: vampire, mummy, werewolf, ghost, witch, devil, swamp creature, Frankenstein?s monster Xtras: Phantom, invisible man #ufchat
10:07 pm MariAdkins: @shadowflame1974 trick or treating in the mall? trunk or treat? give me a break. #UFchat
10:07 pm leapetra: I mean a guest post by Chris Kelly http://bit.ly/d2s5Mu #ufchat
10:07 pm UF_Chat: S: Each of the classics seems to represent a large ?fear? of society thru ages. #ufchat
10:07 pm UF_Chat: Q2: Why do people like being scared? #ufchat
10:07 pm larissa_sarah: RT @leapetra: I mean a guest post by Chris Kelly http://bit.ly/d2s5Mu #ufchat
10:07 pm AnassaRh: Right, mummies! Forgot about mummies! @leapetra #ufchat
10:08 pm Sarah_Bromley: @UF_Chat Humanoid (Yeti, Bigfoot) and dragons? #ufchat
10:08 pm UF_Chat: @Sarah_Bromley Yes! Zombies too. Especially now. I knew I missed one in my delirium! #ufchat
10:08 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat 1 reason when you are under stress, your body reacts as if it is scared. To release the stress, you need a good scare #ufchat
10:08 pm JSterlingS: A2: It reminds us that we are alive and it’s an adrenaline rush. Plus us guys like girls jumping into our laps. #ufchat
10:09 pm curlyrbr: @UF_Chat Hi! What’s the topic today? #ufchat
10:09 pm shadowflame1974: @MariAdkins #UFchat BOOO! Boring!
10:09 pm UF_Chat: RT @leapetra: I mean a guest post by Chris Kelly http://bit.ly/d2s5Mu #ufchat
10:09 pm JSterlingS: Can’t forget about killer robots. #ufchat
10:09 pm Sarah_Bromley: @UF_Chat Fictional fear is an escape from real fears #ufchat
10:09 pm UF_Chat: Q2a: Does this have anything to do with why people love UF? #ufchat
10:10 pm leapetra: RT @JSterlingS: Cant forget about killer robots. #ufchat
10:10 pm SpiceBites: @Sarah_Bromley I love dragons! #UFChat
10:10 pm AnassaRh: I think adrenaline is part of why scary is fun. And laughing at how silly you were, afterwards, so ? social bonding too? #ufchat
10:10 pm UF_Chat: @curlyrbr Welcome! TOPIC: Why we need monsters! (& Halloween too) #ufchat
10:10 pm leapetra: But Fear is the Mind Killer #dune #ufchat
10:11 pm Sarah_Bromley: @UF_Chat UF has a lot of people standing up to face fear. Readers may find this inspiring. #ufchat
10:11 pm AnassaRh: Never said I got ’em all! Thanks. #ufchat RT @wordofmousebook: @AnassaRh what about ghoul?
10:11 pm SpiceBites: I think it’s also social commentary maybe? #UFChat
10:11 pm UF_Chat: Q2a: Does this have anything to do with why people love UF? #UFchat
10:12 pm leapetra: sometimes its easier to deal with fictional fear, than the real serial killer down the block #ufchat
10:12 pm shadowflame1974: #UFChat of course. easier to slay fictional monsters than minorities. Also gives creative solutions for modern problems
10:12 pm Sarah_Bromley: @wordofmousebook @AnassaRh Do ghouls fall into the zombie category or something else? #ufchat
10:12 pm MariAdkins: @shadowflame1974 kids can’t even wear masks anymore – they might trip and fall becasue they can’t see well. #UFchat
10:12 pm AnassaRh: A2a: One of the primer articles mentioned the “what if” factor of fear? What if zombie/vampire/demon/alien attacked me? 1/2 #ufchat
10:12 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh Looking at the classics in that list – all the old masks & monsters made into movies. But ghoul is long time bogeycreature #ufchat
10:13 pm UF_Chat: Q2b: What does vampire represent/cover fear-wise? (Note: I?ll ask for each but not necessarily straight forward ? think about it) #ufchat
10:13 pm shadowflame1974: @MariAdkins #UFchat dddoha! I think this will be our last year. next we celebrate halloween by going to haunted houses!
10:13 pm leapetra: @Sarah_Bromley I think are zombies are a type of ghoul #ufchat
10:14 pm AnassaRh: ? And that same thing happens within UF. It’s the basis for the genre, no? What IF there were vampires? #ufchat
10:14 pm SpiceBites: The monster can also be a metaphor for the ugliness inside — Hyde & Jekyll And most alien takeovers is fear of others #UFChat
10:14 pm UF_Chat: @Sarah_Bromley I think they are covered by zombies in the classic monster umbrella. The classics cover most ‘types’ of monsters. #ufchat
10:14 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat sexual fear. fear of domination #ufchat
10:14 pm AnassaRh: That was, of course, 2/2/ #ufchat
10:14 pm Sarah_Bromley: A2b: vampires can represent a fear of seduction/corruption of what’s natural #ufchat
10:15 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat Vampires represent the fear of death (in addition to sexual stress) and a way to overcome death. #ufchat
10:15 pm AnassaRh: @Sarah_Bromley I think they’re different. Different origins, though I can’t recall the exact distinction. #ufchat
10:15 pm SpiceBites: I usually throw a get-together for a few families. Dads & kids go hs2hs, moms relax with wine…i mean fix dinner πŸ™‚ #UFChat
10:15 pm shadowflame1974: #UFchat vampires- soul draining cooperates? the mighty industry? your boss? lol
10:15 pm AnassaRh: @UF_Chat I’d say that means we need a good ghoul story, wouldn’t you? *grins* #ufchat
10:16 pm UF_Chat: Remember vampires have been the uber-monster well before they became sexy. What do they represent fear-wise? #ufchat
10:16 pm leapetra: @AnassaRh ghouls are from the middle east, creatures that eat corpses. traditional zombies from haiti #ufchat
10:16 pm SayVampire: RT @shadowflame1974 #UFchat vampires- soul draining cooperates? the mighty industry? your boss? lol
10:16 pm Sarah_Bromley: @AnassaRh My MS that’s on sub has revenants which are rather ghoul-like. πŸ™‚ #ufchat
10:16 pm UF_Chat: @shadowflame1974 Amazing how widespread metaphor can get – huh? πŸ˜‰ #ufchat
10:16 pm SpiceBites: RT @SayVampire: RT @shadowflame1974 #UFchat vampires- soul draining cooperates? the mighty industry? your boss? lol #UFChat
10:17 pm AnassaRh: Agreed. They’re very sexual. RT @Sarah_Bromley: A2b: vampires can represent a fear of seduction/corruption of what’s natural #ufchat
10:17 pm UF_Chat: Q2b1: The mummy? How is this different from the zombie type? #ufchat
10:17 pm leapetra: @shadowflame1974 sound like most of the places I have worked at #ufchat
10:17 pm Sarah_Bromley: @leapetra Ah, thanks for the reminder. I need to brush up on my monster origins again #ufchat
10:17 pm AnassaRh: Explanation! Yay! RT @leapetra:@AnassaRh ghouls are from the middle east, creatures that eat corpses. traditional zombies from haiti #ufchat
10:18 pm SpiceBites: A2B1 Mummy’s are sentient, zombies are not usually, i think #UFChat
10:18 pm AnassaRh: @Sarah_Bromley Cool! #ufchat
10:18 pm tasmin21: Sorry I’m late, folks! #UFChat
10:18 pm UF_Chat: Q2b2: Werewolves & the wolfman? #ufchat
10:18 pm UF_Chat: Q2b3: Witches? (not the Wiccan kind ?the typical nasty kind) #ufchat
10:18 pm SpiceBites: In Middle Eastern lore they are called ghools #UFChat
10:18 pm Sarah_Bromley: @UF_Chat Mummies are usually brought about by a curse. Zombies have more variation in origin stories–ie, infection, disaster. #ufchat
10:18 pm JSterlingS: Mummies are corpses that come back a live to attack the cursed. They need not flesh to survive. Head shots don’t worth either. #ufchat
10:19 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Q2b1 a form of burial as well, not just Egyptian #ufchat
10:19 pm UF_Chat: Q2b4: (Racing thru the rest to get to the next set ok?) Devils & demons? (clue: it?s more than fear of hell) #ufchat
10:19 pm UF_Chat: Q2b5: Swamp Creatures? #ufchat
10:19 pm Sarah_Bromley: Q2b2: werewolves are primal urge and the fear of what happens when it takes over #ufchat
10:20 pm UF_Chat: Q2b6: Frankenstein?s monster? (think mad scientist, Igor as well as the creation here) #ufchat
10:20 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Q2b4 demons are only messengers, its who they are delivering the message from you have to watch out for #ufchat
10:20 pm JSterlingS: Swamp creatures is nature taking a more active role in smacking us for polluting it. #ufchat
10:20 pm Sarah_Bromley: Q2B3: Witches can be fear of others working against us and the power they hold over us #ufchat
10:20 pm AnassaRh: A2b: East Euro vamps: fear of death, fear of stalkers, fear of darkness? Chinese vamps: loss of self. #ufchat
10:21 pm SpiceBites: I remember a TED talk by Elizabeth Gilbert and she mentioned demons came from daemons, geniies from genius #UFChat
10:21 pm UF_Chat: @Sarah_Bromley Zombies originally just corpses brought back from dead. Infection/disease is later incarnation but still relevant. #ufchat
10:21 pm UF_Chat: S: Ghosts I left for a separate question as they?re particularly important to Halloween. #ufchat
10:21 pm UF_Chat: Q3: How have ghosts been portrayed in UF? Do they have any connection to Halloween? #ufchat
10:22 pm JSterlingS: As I said in the beginning Frankenstein’s monster is about intolerance and fear of the different. #ufchat
10:22 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Q2b6 fear of technology. the lack of humanity #ufchat
10:22 pm tasmin21: A3: For the Downside series, the ghosts ARE the premise, really. #UFChat
10:22 pm SpiceBites: @UF_Chat But can zombies think? I thot they were controlled by whoever created them. #UFChat
10:23 pm AnassaRh: 2b1: Mummy: fear of death, I think, coupled with a love of the Middle East. Zombies: fear of losing self, fear of infection. #ufchat
10:23 pm Sarah_Bromley: Q3: Ghosts are important to Halloween since “the veil is thin.” More transference between spirit realm and living realm #ufchat
10:23 pm UF_Chat: Sorry – power outage – swapping systems to the back-up. #UFchat
10:23 pm AnassaRh: Also think with zombies we’re afraid of being forced to act against our will (vamps have this too). You don’t want to kill, but? #ufchat
10:23 pm leapetra: @SpiceBites modern zombies are worst, a mindless thing makes them.ie the flu #ufchat
10:24 pm UF_Chat: Q3: How have ghosts been portrayed in UF? Do they have any connection to Halloween? #UFchat
10:24 pm AnassaRh: 2b2: Werewolves: There’s definitely an element of body horror there, as well as the traditional “wolves kill our livestock” thing. #ufchat
10:24 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra I’m not big on zombies but the metaphor is astounding to me. I keep finding uses for this monster! #UFchat
10:24 pm leapetra: RT @UF_Chat: Sorry – power outage – <- quit trying to revive your monster during chats. #ufchat
10:24 pm JSterlingS: @SpiceBites depends on if you’re talking old school zombie or new. Old school = no. New = maybe #ufchat
10:25 pm tasmin21: Agree with @Sarah_Bromley. Most of the time, Halloween is viewed as a time of greater power for ghosts. #UFChat
10:25 pm AnassaRh: 2b3: Witches: Curses are the biggie here. And poisonings. Don’t want to be a frog! #ufchat
10:25 pm Sarah_Bromley: @UF_Chat I’m more partial to the reanimated corpse version of zombies. The new, infected sort don’t do it for me #ufchat
10:25 pm UF_Chat: I’m assuming here most UF people know the origins of Halloween so no going over that ground today but let me know if you’re lost. #UFchat
10:26 pm leapetra: Ghost are a bit hopeful. They show that death is not the end for some #ufchat
10:26 pm UF_Chat: Q4: Supernatural is ?very close? on H’ween. What other celebrations/days/etc fall in this season & what is focus? Eg All Souls Day #UFchat
10:26 pm UF_Chat: Q4a: What other ?ghost centered celebrations? are there around the world? (eg Japanese Grave sweeping) #UFchat
10:26 pm tasmin21: Seems like ghosts are usually used as a) motivation for the hero or b) a source of information to solve the case. #UFChat
10:26 pm leapetra: Ghosts also give you a link to the past. not many of the other monsters do that. #ufchat
10:26 pm Sarah_Bromley: I love writing ghost stories or using ghosts in all different kinds of roles. So much material to mine for fiction. #ufchat
10:26 pm tasmin21: @leapetra See, I don’t see it as hopeful. I see it as they never rest. It’s a bit depressing, really. #UFChat
10:26 pm AnassaRh: 2b4: Demons: Brutal, violent death. Fear of the Other, the unknown. Also, incubus/succubus demons are sexual. #ufchat
10:27 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Day of the Dead! #ufchat
10:27 pm UF_Chat: S: It appears all cultures have a day in which the dead are honored/celebrated. Halloween is ours. #UFchat
10:27 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat Which origins? I’ve found no less than 3. #ufchat
10:27 pm UF_Chat: Q5: Why is death given such attention? #UFchat
10:27 pm Sarah_Bromley: @UF_Chat Q4a: don’t forget Dia de los Muertos where the souls of the deceased return to celebrate w/ family/friends #ufchat
10:27 pm UF_Chat: Q5a: What about ancestors? What celebrations/rituals focus on this? #UFchat
10:27 pm tasmin21: A5: Death gets so much attention because it’s the last great mystery. #UFChat
10:28 pm AnassaRh: 2b5 and 2b6: Both are a fear of the Other, of body horror. Don’t know much about swamp creatures, so won’t say more there. #ufchat
10:28 pm Sarah_Bromley: @UF_Chat Q5: death is something we all have to face and among the greatest unknowns #ufchat
10:28 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat Day of the Dead, All Hallows Eve, Easter, Devil’s Eve. #ufchat
10:28 pm UF_Chat: @JSterlingS Essentially re both changing seasons & the idea of supernatural world closest to ours at this time (incl souls departed) #UFchat
10:28 pm MarciSischo: Hello! Late, but here! πŸ˜€ #UFChat
10:28 pm UF_Chat: Q5b: What could be gained by considering those gone before each year (child thru adult)? #UFchat
10:29 pm AnassaRh: But as for Frankenstein’s monster? there’s also the relentlessness of his pursuit, and his unnaturalness. Some zombie stuff there? #ufchat
10:29 pm leapetra: Death: we are dying as soon as we take our first breath #Buddhism #ufchat
10:29 pm UF_Chat: @JSterlingS Glad you mentioned Devil’s Night… #UFchat
10:29 pm alisonwells: RT @leapetra: Death: we are dying as soon as we take our first breath #Buddhism #ufchat
10:29 pm AnassaRh: Have to admit, when I read Frankenstein, I sympathized with the monster much more than I did with Frankenstein himself. #ufchat
10:29 pm UF_Chat: S: On the other extreme is Devil?s Night (Oct 30) where extreme mischief (to put it mildly) prevails. #UFchat
10:29 pm UF_Chat: Q5c: Why is Devil?s Night celebrated at all (anywhere)? #UFchat
10:30 pm dref22: RT @leapetra: Death: we are dying as soon as we take our first breath #Buddhism #ufchat
10:30 pm AnassaRh: RT @Sarah_Bromley: Q3: Ghosts are important to Halloween since “the veil is thin.” More transference between spirit realm and living realm #ufchat
10:30 pm SpiceBites: Thanx for explaining zombies πŸ™‚ #UFChat
10:30 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh I think that was kinda the big idea – the REAL monster in that story was Frankenstein himself. Not his creation. #UFchat
10:30 pm UF_Chat: Q5d: Apart from The Crow (classic & very dark UF) are the other UF stories that use Devil?s Night? #UFchat
10:31 pm leapetra: Devil’s Night. We have to blow off steam ever so often. I would rather do Walprugis Night myself. #ufchat
10:31 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat We all have the souls of a trickster in us. Plus it allows relief of tension. #ufchat
10:31 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra You’ve heard the heartbeat theory – right? We’re all allocated so many heart beats for our life span? #UFchat
10:31 pm UF_Chat: @JSterlingS Agree – but why the violence. Devil’s Night is traditionally big on intense violence. #UFchat
10:32 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat I have, #ufchat
10:32 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra See comment to @JSterlingS… #UFchat
10:32 pm SpiceBites: RT @UF_Chat: @leapetra Youve heard the heartbeat theory – right? Were all allocated so many heart beats for our life span?OoH cool! #UFChat
10:32 pm UF_Chat: Q6: What UF novels center around Halloween or have key event happen on that date? #UFchat
10:32 pm AnassaRh: A3: Haven’t read many UF with ghosts. @katrchrdsn‘s Greywalker books have multiples, from memories to semi-aware to active (and Bad) #ufchat
10:33 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat unfortunately some people can’t have fun mischief and have to go to extremes. #ufchat
10:33 pm MarciSischo: @UF_Chat Devil’s Night violence is mostly in the bigger cities, though. Small towns just smash pumpkins and toilet paper houses. #UFChat
10:33 pm AnassaRh: In that series, at least, they’re not really connected to Hallowe’en. They’re always there. #ufchat
10:33 pm Sarah_Bromley: @UF_Chat @JSterlingS It’s the last really huge night to get out your evil before All Hallow’s Eve and All Saints’ & All Souls’ Days. #ufchat
10:33 pm SpiceBites: Lately seen some mysteries with ghosts…. #UFChat
10:33 pm AnassaRh: @UF_Chat I’ve always suspected such. And there we have the mad scientist as monster trope. #ufchat
10:34 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat I know at least one of the Dresden Files series centers on H alloween. #ufchat
10:34 pm tasmin21: @UF_Chat A6: Again, I’ll mention @StaciaKane‘s Downside series. The ghostly catastrophe hit the world for a week, around Halloween. #UFChat
10:34 pm UF_Chat: S: Monsters & Halloween go together yet monsters in UF are more classic & classically quite urban (though been urbanized). #UFchat
10:34 pm UF_Chat: Q7: Considering how Urban Legends (& nightmares) often represented at Halloween why don?t we see these more in UF? #UFchat
10:35 pm MarciSischo: @JSterlingS @UF_Chat — Dresden’s got one centering on ghosts, too. Same one, I think. Dead Beat? #UFChat
10:35 pm UF_Chat: @tasmin21 Such an amazing series. I remain in awe. #UFchat
10:35 pm UF_Chat: Q7: What urban legends could use the UF treatment? #UFchat
10:35 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat in the movies we see more urban legends. but books not so much. Too bad great fodder there #ufchat
10:35 pm AnassaRh: A4: The Mexican Day of the Dead revolves around respect for and celebration of the dead, doesn’t it? #ufchat
10:35 pm UF_Chat: @MarciSischo That sounds familiar… #UFchat
10:35 pm SesshaBatto: RT @leapetra: Death: we are dying as soon as we take our first breath #Buddhism #ufchat
10:36 pm MarciSischo: All the urban legends are belong to me. At least, all the Michigan ones. πŸ˜‰ #UFChat
10:36 pm AnassaRh: And I guess for a more modern celebration/day, there’s Remembrance/Veteran’s Day. That’s respect as well. #ufchat
10:36 pm Sarah_Bromley: Q7: I think we don’t see as many Urban Legends in UF because, while they’re urban, they’re not really fantasy. #ufchat.
10:36 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat Perhaps because it’s too easy. Most now would not blink at seeing Dracula walking down the street on Oct 31st #ufchat
10:36 pm leapetra: In Killer I worked in an urban legend for the fictional town, that comes to light in a later book. it gave the story a nice feel #ufchat
10:37 pm MarciSischo: @UF_Chat Yeah, that was the one w/ the necromancer killing ghosts to become a god on Devil’s Night or Halloween. Also, a t-rex. #UFChat
10:37 pm Sarah_Bromley: @UF_Chat Q7: Hook Man! I’d love tos ee someone do something with that one. #ufchat
10:37 pm MarciSischo: Because if you’re going to do necromancy, why NOT raise a t-rex? #UFChat
10:37 pm UF_Chat: Q8: Bogeymen are still around in various guises. Where are the bogeymen of UF? Are there any? #UFchat
10:38 pm AnassaRh: A5: Death comes for everyone eventually. You don’t know when, or how, or what happens afterwards. #ufchat
10:38 pm UF_Chat: @MarciSischo Which brings up a good question of what the heck are we doing in science anyway? πŸ˜‰ #UFchat
10:38 pm UF_Chat: Q9: Why do you personally like monsters? What is it about them that you like to read? #UFchat
10:38 pm JSterlingS: The scariest monster to ever walk this planet is also the most numerous: man. #ufchat
10:39 pm MarciSischo: @UF_Chat We’re working on it. You heard about the zombie dogs, right? #UFChat
10:39 pm leapetra: A great series on Urban legends is anything from Jan Harold Brunvand #ufchat
10:39 pm UF_Chat: You all are aware of the Spooky Legends event over at All Things Urban Fantasy – right? Urban legends retold by fave UF characters? #UFchat
10:39 pm MarciSischo: A9) They make such lovely metaphors! #UFChat
10:40 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Q9 you can relate to monsters on some level. there are times everyone feels like they do not belong. #ufchat
10:40 pm UF_Chat: @MarciSischo Yay! Kinda. I’m partial to were-llamas – which are suspiciously zombie like for some reason… (weird I know) #UFchat
10:40 pm AnassaRh: A5b: A greater sense of heritage, a reverence. Traditions of any sort are for bonding, as well. #ufchat
10:40 pm MarciSischo: RT @JSterlingS: The scariest monster to ever walk this planet is also the most numerous: man. #UFChat
10:41 pm AnassaRh: A5b: From a more UF standpoint, remembering the dead means pacifying them, preventing them from causing mischief/curses. #ufchat
10:41 pm leapetra: Were-yetis, we need more of those #ufchat
10:41 pm UF_Chat: Are you guys aware of the Myths Over Miami articles? Street kids form own myths? (all scary & from kids under 10) #UFchat
10:41 pm MarciSischo: @UF_Chat And now I must write a story about were-llamas. Or read one someone else has written. #UFChat
10:41 pm UF_Chat: RT @MarciSischo: RT @JSterlingS: The scariest monster to ever walk this planet is also the most numerous: man. #UFchat
10:41 pm Sarah_Bromley: A9: Monsters and UF are a great distraction from one’s “real” problems. If you defeat a rampaging werewolf, you can beat anything. #ufchat
10:41 pm UF_Chat: So we’re getting to ‘why we need monsters’ part -my argument is that we need them to keep us human. Man is the worst monster of all. #UFchat
10:42 pm UF_Chat: Q10: How do we use monsters in UF? (eg as metaphors? As catharsis? Other?) #UFchat
10:42 pm AnassaRh: A7: I definitely think the Hook Man and the Phantom Hitchhiker could be great UF stories! #ufchat
10:42 pm UF_Chat: Q11: UF wouldn?t be UF without a monster or two (or more). Why does UF need monsters to be “UF”? #UFchat
10:42 pm valerievaldes: @UF_Chat I wrote a book about those Myths Over Miami. #UFChat
10:42 pm leapetra: A zombie lawyer has just arrive the party is starting. I will catch you all later. #ufchat
10:42 pm Sarah_Bromley: The talk about urban legends reminds me of Candy Man, Bloody Mary, etc. where the supernatural does occur #ufchat
10:43 pm MarciSischo: Voltaire: “Learn what you can from the beasts you’ll defeat / You’ll need it for some of the people you’ll meet” #UFChat
10:43 pm UF_Chat: Q12: What would happen to UF if we took away the monsters? #UFchat
10:43 pm Sarah_Bromley: RT @MarciSischo: Voltaire: “Learn what you can from the beasts you’ll defeat / You’ll need it for some of the people you’ll meet” #UFChat
10:43 pm AnassaRh: I’d rather have a herd of raptors. RT @MarciSischo: Because if you’re going to do necromancy, why NOT raise a t-rex? #UFChat
10:44 pm UF_Chat: @Sarah_Bromley Definitely need to look up Myths Over Miami -Bloody Mary variations abound by kids too small to have heard about her #UFchat
10:44 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat Simplest answer would be that without them it would be just urban fiction. #ufchat
10:44 pm MarciSischo: @AnassaRh Ooo, good point. A horde of zombie raptors! #UFChat
10:44 pm MarciSischo: I don’t think you can have a UF without some monsters. #UFChat
10:45 pm AnassaRh: I read monsters partly to get their side of the story, see where they’re coming from, explore how they got to that point. #ufchat
10:45 pm Sarah_Bromley: @UF_Chat Re: Myths Over Miami–will do. Sounds like an interesting read! #ufchat
10:45 pm UF_Chat: Q13: Why is there a tendency to humanize monsters in UF novels? (To blend with humans, to get involved with humans etc) #UFchat
10:46 pm UF_Chat: Q13a: What is the difference between sentient & non-sentient monsters in novels? How are they typically written? #UFchat
10:46 pm AnassaRh: Granted, that’s more referring to the manipulative monsters, the Evil Overlord or serial killer types. #ufchat
10:46 pm Sarah_Bromley: Ah, I have a screaming 3-year-old. Time to run. Thanks for a wonderful #ufchat
10:46 pm UF_Chat: @Sarah_Bromley I’m tweeting a link at the end in the resource section. πŸ™‚ #UFchat
10:46 pm AnassaRh: I’m much more into those types than the “they just have to” monsters like zombies and some types of werewolf. #ufchat
10:46 pm UF_Chat: @Sarah_Bromley Mine is not screaming.. yet. Sympathies! #UFchat
10:46 pm MarciSischo: A13) Humanized monsters stand in for the worst in ourselves, and for keeping ourselves in check. #UFChat
10:46 pm UF_Chat: Q13b: How could this be turned on its head? #UFchat
10:47 pm AnassaRh: @Sarah_Bromley Oh yes, Bloody Mary! #ufchat
10:48 pm UF_Chat: Q14: What is/are your favorite monsters to read or write in UF and why? #UFchat
10:48 pm MarciSischo: I think UF kinda came from turning things on their head. Born out of horror stories, where the “monsters” were bad guys. #UFChat
10:48 pm UF_Chat: Q14a: Bestiaries were once taken very seriously. What creatures would you like to see explored in UF? #UFchat
10:48 pm UF_Chat: Q14a: What ?classic? sentient monsters/figures could be better utilized/explored in UF? #UFchat
10:48 pm MarciSischo: Now, some of the monsters are good guys. #UFChat
10:49 pm AnassaRh: A10 Monsters are catalysts or antagonists, or both. They make the MC change and grow and learn. #ufchat
10:49 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat UF needs more trolls. #ufchat
10:49 pm UF_Chat: S: Buffy is famous for its wide variety of monsters (eg monster of the week) beyond the vampire, witch, demon & werewolf regulars. #UFchat
10:50 pm AnassaRh: Overcoming monsters means overcoming fear. Accepting monsters (Oh, so you’re a vampire now? Cool.) means accepting the Other. #ufchat
10:50 pm UF_Chat: Q14b: In your ?monster rolodex? what obscure ones would you like to see used more? (any culture) #UFchat
10:50 pm MarciSischo: Middle Eastern demons. #UFChat
10:50 pm MarciSischo: Chinese demons. #UFChat
10:50 pm SpiceBites: Sorry, gotta go to a Diwali(festival of lights) party #UFChat
10:50 pm AnassaRh: I don’t think UF needs monsters to be UF. UF just needs magic and an antagonist. Monsters are just handy for the latter role. #ufchat
10:51 pm UF_Chat: @MarciSischo Any in mind in particular? (Middle Eastern demons) #UFchat
10:51 pm UF_Chat: @SpiceBites Ooh nice! #UFchat
10:51 pm AnassaRh: We’d have to get much more creative if we took away the original monsters. We’d probably have fewer possible plots, too. #ufchat
10:51 pm UF_Chat: S: Horror has been distinguished from ?dark UF? as the story is about surviving the monster. Been cry: ?monsters disappearing!? #UFchat
10:51 pm MarciSischo: @UF_Chat Jeez. I dunno. There’s so many. I’ve seen djinn used quite a bit, but they’ve got demons for everything. #UFChat
10:51 pm UF_Chat: S: (cont) Here is argument for ?transformation? via UF genre: What?s happened to our monsters? http://bit.ly/alWF2D #UFchat
10:51 pm UF_Chat: Q15: What kinds (as in types of threats) of monsters are there in UF as opposed to horror? #UFchat
10:52 pm MarciSischo: I think the difference is that in horror, your protag isn’t usually equipped to go toe-to-toe with the monsters. #UFChat
10:52 pm AnassaRh: Absolutely! Big fan of trolls. RT @JSterlingS: @UF_Chat UF needs more trolls. #ufchat
10:52 pm UF_Chat: @MarciSischo They do – don’t they? Celts have fairies, Middle Easterns have demons – similar functions in many ways. #UFchat
10:53 pm UF_Chat: Q16: What about humans? What happens when they act monstrous in UF? #UFchat
10:53 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat In UF there are more innocents that can be collateral damage. In horror EVERYTHING is collateral damage. #ufchat
10:53 pm efevans: RT @dref22: RT @leapetra: Death: we are dying as soon as we take our first breath #Buddhism #ufchat
10:53 pm MarciSischo: @UF_Chat Oh, I hadn’t thought of that. True! #UFChat
10:54 pm AnassaRh: A13a: Sentient monsters tend to have motive. Non-sentient just DO. And weres, if written half and half, often have sense of guilt. #ufchat
10:54 pm UF_Chat: Q17: What makes a monster (a real monster ?not a creature that isn?t human- but a horror)? (definition of ‘MONSTER’ pls!) #UFchat
10:54 pm UF_Chat: Q18: What types of real life human monsters are there? #UFchat
10:55 pm UF_Chat: Q18a: Do we see any of the human monsters in UF? Are they treated differently from the creature monsters? #UFchat
10:55 pm MarciSischo: A monster is something that destroys and terrorizes on purpose. With malice aforethought. πŸ˜€ #UFChat
10:55 pm AnassaRh: Sentient monsters also get more page-time. Non-sentients often show up, rampage, get killed. They’re more sudden. #ufchat
10:55 pm MarciSischo: That’s why the sentient monsters are more fun. πŸ˜‰ #UFChat
10:55 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat A16: Then they ARE the monster. #ufchat
10:55 pm MarciSischo: Anything else is just… kind of a rabid dog. Gotta put it down, but not really its fault. #UFChat
10:56 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh Originally weres have no sense of human minds left when in wolf state. More than beast too – more like madness than wolf. #UFchat
10:56 pm AnassaRh: Looked at bestiaries in a lit class, don’t remember much. Just people with their face in their chest, and no head. #ufchat
10:57 pm UF_Chat: @JSterlingS Yes – so what happens to the UF ‘creatures’/monsters in the same stories then? What’s their function? #UFchat
10:57 pm UF_Chat: Q19: Why DO we need monsters? (essays & studies coming in resources at end for those interested) In our fiction? In our rituals? #UFchat
10:57 pm AnassaRh: I would like to see a lake monster or Kraken, though. #ufchat
10:58 pm AnassaRh: @UF_Chat Yeah. Know that. That’s what I meant with the half-and-half weres. No control as a wolf, guilty over the deaths they cause. #ufchat
10:58 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh I am partial to swamp things and related creatures (I see monsters as the human-like, creatures as the animal-like) #UFchat
10:59 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh Yes – interesting society is set up for such a monster, yes? #UFchat
10:59 pm UF_Chat: FINAL Q20: What would you add to a UF Halloween viewing list (beyond typical/straight horror)? #UFchat
11:00 pm AnassaRh: A14a I’ve only seen one book where someone was pulling a Frankenstein. #ufchat
11:00 pm AnassaRh: A14b: In the post I linked to earlier, I made a call for Sasquatch stories. They were a boogieman for some cultures. #ufchat
11:00 pm tasmin21: A20: Old B vampire movie called Razorblade Smile. Vamp chick is the heroine, nice twist at the end. I love it. #UFChat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: I think The Crow is always on my Halloween viewing list (at least would be were it not for toddler) – classic myth & UF & dark #UFchat
11:01 pm JSterlingS: #ufchat The creatures just make the “evil” humans appear to be even more monstrous.
11:01 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh You mean creating own monster? (Pulling a Frankenstein? ) #UFchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: @tasmin21 haven’t heard of that one! Must look it up. Thanks! #UFchat
11:02 pm AnassaRh: @UF_Chat Yeah. One of Tanya Huff Blood books involves a scientist reanimating corpses. #ufchat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: That?s a wrap for #UFchat today! Got a ton of resources & a few lists (viewing & reading) for you next. #UFchat
11:03 pm MarciSischo: Any campy old 80’s vamp movie. Once Bitten, Twice Shy, that one w/ Bruce Campbell and Lance Henrickson… #UFChat
11:03 pm AnassaRh: Humans who act monstrous in UF often get cast as villains, and get their just deserts in the end. Evil wizard. Zombie summoner. etc. #ufchat
11:03 pm tasmin21: @UF_Chat It’s from 1998, Netflix has it. #UFChat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh Myself I see Frankenstein as variation on zombie creation. Trying to go one step better… #UFchat
11:04 pm AnassaRh: RT @MarciSischo: A monster is something that destroys and terrorizes on purpose. With malice aforethought. πŸ˜€ #UFChat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: Got a topic you want to chat about? Let me know! (@inkgypsy) I?ll add it to the list & maybe even bump up the chat-date for it. ? #UFchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: @tasmin21 Thanks! #UFchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: Some additional resources on monsters and Halloween in next few tweets: #UFchat #UFchat
11:04 pm JSterlingS: @AnassaRh Reminds me of Koontz’ take on Frankenstein. #ufchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: All Things Urban Fantasy: Spooky Legends (Retold By Your Favorite UF Characters) http://bit.ly/aBmMeq #UFchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: @JSterlingS Did you read all 3? #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: Monsters With Human Faces by Emmett Spain (@oldhauntsauthor) http://bit.ly/ceoJvf #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: (Xlnt!) Monsters and the Moral Imagination http://bit.ly/1uvGER #UFchat
11:05 pm AnassaRh: A17/18 Monsters may destroy on purpose, but the ones that can hold back, and know they should, and DON’T, really scare me. #ufchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: Why we need King Kong, Big Foot and the Loch Ness Monster http://bit.ly/cC7Pfc #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: We Need New Monsters Because Tweens Have Officially Hijacked Vampires http://bit.ly/bCf6aW #UFchat
11:05 pm JSterlingS: @UF_Chat I’ve read all but the 4th. #ufchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: A Brief History of Being Scared http://bit.ly/9SAU1K #UFchat
11:06 pm UF_Chat: Urban Fantasy at the Movies (List for Halloween ? by Goodreads Forum) http://bit.ly/bCRgPS #UFchat
11:06 pm AnassaRh: Psychopaths and sociopaths, in other words. Serial killers. #ufchat
11:06 pm UF_Chat: Halloween Fiction (List by Beebe Library) http://bit.ly/c5k8sU #UFchat
11:06 pm UF_Chat: Girl?s Guide to Guns & Monsters (anthology) edited by Martin H. Greenburg & Kerrie Hughes http://bit.ly/aU81wD #UFchat
11:06 pm UF_Chat: Those Who Fight Monsters : Tales of Occult Detectives (anthology) edited by Justin Gustainis http://bit.ly/ajlqQM #UFchat
11:06 pm UF_Chat: Why Aren?t Urban Fantasy Creatures More? Urban? http://bit.ly/bgtTFT #UFchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: Monsters and the Meat-ness of Us http://bit.ly/cy1M54 #UFchat
11:07 pm AnassaRh: So do I. RT @UF_Chat: @AnassaRh Myself I see Frankenstein as variation on zombie creation. Trying to go one step better… #UFchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: For fun in anticipation of a UF Christmas: Fold Your Own Zombie 2011 Calendar! http://bit.ly/agQZLm #UFchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: Myths Over Miami (street kids create own myth culture & urban legends) http://bit.ly/XL8IR #UFchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat transcript available on the #UFchat blog in 36hrs-ish, allowing for late comments. Just use the hashtag. ? #UFchat
11:08 pm AnassaRh: A20: Any of the Buffy Hallowe’en episodes. Ghostbusters, though that barely counts. #ufchat
11:08 pm UF_Chat: @JSterlingS That’s right – there’s a new release isn’t there? What did you think? (I’ve read 2) #UFchat
11:08 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh All Buffy! LOL #UFchat
11:09 pm AnassaRh: True. But I’m not about to marathon! RT @UF_Chat: @AnassaRh All Buffy! LOL #UFchat
11:09 pm UF_Chat: @UF_Chat lights out. πŸ˜‰ May you all have a happy and safe Halloween & enjoy the monster sightings. πŸ˜‰ ? #UFchat
11:10 pm AnassaRh: I’d also pick the black-and-white episode of Supernatural as slightly silly Halloween fare. #ufchat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh Yeah – if only there were time.. sigh. LOL #UFchat
11:11 pm UF_Chat: Forgot to mention am still collecting Halloween/haunted/UF blog posts – hope to post late tonight for Halloween reading! πŸ™‚ #UFchat
11:11 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh I seriously need to catch up on Supernatural… #UFchat
11:11 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Myths Over Miami (street kids create own myth culture & urban legends) http://bit.ly/XL8IR #UFchat
11:12 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Why Aren?t Urban Fantasy Creatures More? Urban? http://bit.ly/bgtTFT #UFchat
11:12 pm UF_Chat: @AnassaRh Quite a few X-Files too – didn’t see anyone mention them, despite talking Urban Legends! #UFchat
11:12 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Monsters and the Meat-ness of Us http://bit.ly/cy1M54 #UFchat
11:12 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Girl?s Guide to Guns & Monsters (anthology) edited by Martin H. Greenburg & Kerrie Hughes http://bit.ly/aU81wD #UFchat
11:12 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Halloween Fiction (List by Beebe Library) http://bit.ly/c5k8sU #UFchat
11:12 pm inkgypsy: OK off to give Jackzilla much needed undivided attention. #UFchat was fun (& marathon – was running b/w rooms the whole time!)
11:13 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: (Xlnt!) Monsters and the Moral Imagination http://bit.ly/1uvGER #UFchat
11:13 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Why we need King Kong, Big Foot and the Loch Ness Monster http://bit.ly/cC7Pfc #UFchat
11:13 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Monsters With Human Faces by Emmett Spain (@oldhauntsauthor) http://bit.ly/ceoJvf #UFchat
11:13 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Some additional resources on monsters and Halloween in next few tweets: #UFchat #UFchat
11:14 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: I think The Crow is always on my Halloween viewing list (at least would be were it not for toddler) – classic myth & UF & dark #UFchat
11:16 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: FINAL Q20: What would you add to a UF Halloween viewing list (beyond typical/straight horror)? #UFchat
11:17 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Q18a: Do we see any of the human monsters in UF? Are they treated differently from the creature monsters? #UFchat
11:17 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Q18: What types of real life human monsters are there? #UFchat
11:18 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Q17: What makes a monster (a real monster ?not a creature that isn?t human- but a horror)? (definition of ‘MONSTER’ pls!) #UFchat
11:18 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Q16: What about humans? What happens when they act monstrous in UF? #UFchat
11:19 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: Q15: What kinds (as in types of threats) of monsters are there in UF as opposed to horror? #UFchat
11:19 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: S: (cont) Here is argument for ?transformation? via UF genre: What?s happened to our monsters? http://bit.ly/alWF2D #UFchat
11:19 pm yobyh: RT @UF_Chat: S: Horror has been distinguished from ?dark UF? as the story is about surviving the monster. Been cry: ?monsters disappearing!? #UFchat
11:51 pm hannahnpbowman: .@AnassaRh Also Christian holidays of All Hallows/All Saints/All Souls days (Oct. 31 – Nov. 2) abt. respect for dead, in part #ufchat
October 31, 2010
1:27 am tadbo: Tonight I will write a story about pie. It is a special pie, made by a special family. #halloween #ufchat
6:20 am tadbo: Story halfway done, not counting edits/rewrite. Not gonna make @inkgypsy‘s #ufchat list, but it will be done and up in time for #Halloween.
9:24 am oldhauntsauthor: RT @UF_Chat: Monsters With Human Faces by Emmett Spain (@oldhauntsauthor) http://bit.ly/ceoJvf #UFchat
9:25 am GraylinFox: Happy Halloween Six Sentence Sunday: http://wp.me/p11In3-7d #sixsunday #halloween #samhain #UFChat
11:43 am LaynaPimentel: RT @GraylinFox: Happy Halloween Six Sentence Sunday: http://wp.me/p11In3-7d #sixsunday #halloween #samhain #UFChat
11:48 am jsubject: RT @GraylinFox: Happy Halloween Six Sentence Sunday: http://wp.me/p11In3-7d #sixsunday #halloween #samhain #UFChat
12:01 pm GraylinFox: Now that I’m up – Happy Halloween Six Sentence Sunday: continues the Blog Hop Story. http://wp.me/p11In3-7d #sixsunday #halloween #UFChat
12:37 pm TarynKincaid: RT @GraylinFox: Now that I’m up – Happy Halloween Six Sentence Sunday: continues the Blog Hop Story. http://wp.me/p11In3-7d #sixsunday #halloween #UFChat
2:26 pm Silk_Labyrinth: RT @GraylinFox: Now that I’m up – Happy Halloween Six Sentence Sunday: continues the Blog Hop Story. http://wp.me/p11In3-7d #sixsunday #halloween #UFChat

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END OF TRANSCRIPT FOR OCTOBER 30th, 2010

I’m attempting to get things fixed ore permanently so I can be on Twitter during the week and prep for chats. I’m still hoping to put together the Halloween reading list in time for next Saturday’s #UFchat too – wish me luck in hunting down and capturing all the gremlins at #UFchat headquarters!

Once again:

If you're interested in helping out by being my 'emergency back-up co-moderator' please contact me and let me know!
It'd be awesome to have emergency back-up for the session and also to help get the transcript up within a couple of days
if I have computer &/or toddler issues delaying me. Please @inkgypsy or DM me for details. :)

Stay tuned to @UF_Chat on Twitter for countdowns and updates.

See you next week – and happy NaoNoWriMo-ing for all you ambitious writers out there! Looking forward to hearing about your new UF novels when you’re ready!

Gypsy (@inkgypsy)

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