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Transcript Feb 5th 2011: UFchat Roundtable: Predictions for 2011

7:59 am FantasyFaction: Good topic on Female Fantasy Authors with Discussion & Recommendations: http://bit.ly/gSd6R3 #amreading #fantasy #ufchat #litchat
8:42 am KC_Woolf: RT @fantasyfaction: Good topic on Female Fantasy Authors with Discussion & Recommendations: http://bit.ly/gSd6R3 #amreading #fantasy #ufchat
12:08 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat is ON today! Sat 2/4 @shadowflame1974 puts on Mod hat & boots for 1st time. (Warning: she’s armed!) Open roundtable format @ 3pmPST
12:08 pm inkgypsy: #UFchat is ON today! Sat 2/4 @shadowflame1974 puts on Mod hat & boots for 1st time. (Warning: she’s armed!) Open roundtable format @ 3pmPST
12:11 pm inkgypsy: Though #UFchat is in capable hands today I sure will miss it if I can’t make it in between home-hospital duties here! It’s going to be fun!
12:27 pm PrincessSoupie: RT @FantasyFaction: Good topic on Female Fantasy Authors with Discussion & Recommendations: http://bit.ly/gSd6R3 #amreading #fantasy #ufchat #litchat
12:31 pm jolantru: RT @UF_Chat: #UFchat is ON today! Sat 2/4 @shadowflame1974 puts on Mod hat & boots for 1st time. (Warning: she’s armed!) Open roundtable format @ 3pmPST
2:15 pm Sarah_Bromley: RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat is ON today! Sat 2/4 @shadowflame1974 puts on Mod hat & boots for 1st time. (Warning: she’s armed!) Open roundtable format @ 3pmPST
6:39 pm shadowflame1974: Morning… or ummmm afternoon all. Going to mod my first #UFchat today. Round table discussion.
6:41 pm UF_Chat: Round table discussion today: Predictions for 2011 #UFchat 5 P.m. CST
6:43 pm rcmurphy: RT @UF_Chat: Round table discussion today: Predictions for 2011 #UFchat 5 P.m. CST
6:52 pm shadowflame1974: RT @UF_Chat: Round table discussion today: Predictions for 2011 #UFchat 5 P.m. CST
7:51 pm sandrawickham: RT @UF_Chat: Round table discussion today: Predictions for 2011 #UFchat 5 P.m. CST
8:19 pm shadowflame1974: #UFChat in just a few hours! Round table discussion on where UF is going this year. Come and join in!
8:27 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat What are you looking forward to this year in Urban Fantasy? Werewolves, zombies, vampires. We want to know! 5pm CST
8:28 pm rcmurphy: RT @UF_Chat: #UFchat What are you looking forward to this year in Urban Fantasy? Werewolves, zombies, vampires. We want to know! 5pm CST
8:29 pm LauraKreitzer: @UF_Chat Something DIFFERENT. Something new #UFchat
8:50 pm miranda00writes: RT @UF_Chat: #UFchat What are you looking forward to this year in Urban Fantasy? Werewolves, zombies, vampires. We want to know! 5pm CST
9:01 pm UF_Chat: where will UF will take us in 2011. Will Vampires rule the world or will the Weres pull it off. Stay tuned for #UFChat 5 pm CST
9:03 pm marirandomities: RT @uf_chat: where will UF will take us in 2011. Will Vampires rule the world or will the Weres pull it off. #UFChat 5 pm CST
9:06 pm shadowflame1974: I’ll be lurking today going to mod my first #UFchat in 2 hours πŸ˜€ and haven”t read Neuromancer yet
9:07 pm shadowflame1974: I’ll be lurking today going to mod my first #UFchat in 2 hours πŸ˜€ and haven”t read Neuromancer yet #cyberpunkchat
9:13 pm AnassaRh: Also, to warn you, I participate in #ufchat every Saturday, usually late because dayjob conflicts. And I tend to be talkative?
9:29 pm marirandomities: A Saturday shout out to my #FridayFlash, The Knight Revealed, epi #12 of the Troll Serial: http://bit.ly/trolls12_knight #litchat #ufchat
9:53 pm UF_Chat: One hour to go time. #UFChat Round table discussion today, ‘Were do you think UF will go in 2011 and beyond? 5 pm CST
9:54 pm leapetra: RT @UF_Chat: where will UF will take us in 2011. Will Vampires rule the world or will the Weres pull it off. #UFChat 5 pm CST #ufchat
9:54 pm Jess_Haines: RT @UF_Chat: One hour to go time. #UFChat Round table discussion today, ‘Were do you think UF will go in 2011 and beyond? 5 pm CST
9:57 pm rcmurphy: RT @UF_Chat: One hour to go time. #UFChat Round table discussion today, ‘Were do you think UF will go in 2011 and beyond? 5 pm CST
10:31 pm UF_Chat: This will be my first mod job for #UFChat Open discussion on what trends are out there for 2011. Vampires? Werewolves? What next?
10:32 pm UF_Chat: Are you up for some predictions for 2011? Where UF is going this year. What is going strong? What is coming up? 5 pm CST #UFChat
10:34 pm ganymeder: RT @marirandomities: A Saturday shout out to my #FridayFlash, The Knight Revealed, epi #12 of the Troll Serial: http://bit.ly/trolls12_knight #litchat #ufchat
10:48 pm UF_Chat: Pulls on the UF Mod boots on. Looks good. Nothing feels better than monster stomping boots. #UFChat
10:51 pm UF_Chat: Hat’s a little small though *Grabs her own* ahh much better. Anyone out there? #UFChat
10:52 pm UF_Chat: http://bit.ly/dWUqfS Top Anticipated Fantasy books of 2011 #UFChat
10:52 pm L_Bushman: RT @UF_Chat: Pulls on the UF Mod boots on. Looks good. Nothing feels better than monster stomping boots. #UFChat
10:53 pm leapetra: RT @UF_Chat: Pulls on the UF Mod boots on. Looks good. Nothing feels better than monster stomping boots. #ufchat
10:53 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Just us chickens. #UFChat
10:54 pm UF_Chat: Orbit books: Cover trends 2009 part 1 http://bit.ly/eDv6rm Part 2 http://bit.ly/eSfrtP #UFChat
10:55 pm shadowflame1974: @Jess_Haines hey anyone who can wrangle Weres, vamps and zombies isn’t a chicken #UFChat
10:56 pm Jess_Haines: @shadowflame1974 Point taken, lol. #UFChat
10:57 pm DEcharacters: will watch chat but not sure I’ll have anything to add to the conversation #UFchat
10:57 pm shadowflame1974: Going to be my first time wrangling the chat so bear with me. #UFChat
10:58 pm BryanThomasS: @shadowflame1974 heckle heckle heckle πŸ™‚ #UFChat
10:59 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat re: covers What no chain mail wonderbras? #ufchat
10:59 pm UF_Chat: And we are going live in 3…. 2… 1… #UFChat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: Let’s open by looking at what’s in store for UF fans this year – the trends, expectations, predictions, #UFChat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: what’s hot, what’s not & the current writing trends (which we’ll see on the shelves in 2 to 5 years). #UFChat
11:00 pm leapetra: tweet chat is slow tonight. or more computer issues with me. #ufchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: So what kind of trends did we see in 2010? Vamps seemed to dominate TV but how about books? #UFChat
11:02 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra yea given up on tweetchat using TweetDeck #UFChat
11:02 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat More and more talk about trolls. That new movie from Norway is helping with that #ufchat
11:02 pm Jess_Haines: #UFChat I’ve seen a lot of angel stuff in YA and demon stuff in UF/PNR come out in the past year. Probably will see more of that in 2011.
11:03 pm Jess_Haines: #UFChat Aside from the obvious vamp/werewolf/mage stuff, of course. πŸ˜› Fae are also becoming more popular.
11:04 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra Trolls are interesting turn. Much more based in legends but what kind of changes in them have you seen? #UFChat
11:04 pm DawnEmbers: Try this again: There is mage stuff in UF? Where can I find that? #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: @DawnEmbers yep wiches, magic useers and magic galore in some stories. #UFChat
11:05 pm leapetra: #UFChat I think vampires will still be big, I can only hope that the image of them will start to change, New blood!
11:05 pm Jess_Haines: @DawnEmbers Mage/wizard, yes. Harry Dresden is the biggest, most popular example. #UFChat
11:06 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra How so? What would you like to see done differently? Not more sparkling, I hope, lol. #UFChat
11:06 pm leapetra: @uf_chat nice thing about trolls, is that there are many interpretations. From stone beings, to almost human ones. #UFChat
11:06 pm DawnEmbers: @UF_Chat ahh, yeah I heard of witches but not sure that any called them “mages” like I have in epic fantasy #UFchat
11:06 pm Jess_Haines: @DawnEmbers Have you read Jim Butcher’s Dresden Files? The MC is a wizard who advertises in the Yellow Pages, hehe. #UFChat
11:06 pm leapetra: @uf_chat hard part: setting them in urban areas. they stayed to the fringes of society most of the time. Except in Hellboy. #UFChat
11:07 pm DawnEmbers: @Jess_Haines I’ve heard of the tv show. but for me wizard is different than mage #UFchat but thanks I might read a book at one point
11:07 pm jayewells: @DawnEmbers @UF_Chat As far as I know my series is one of the only UFs that actually uses the term “mage”–The Sabina Kane series. #ufchat
11:07 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Ayup. Some books came out that had a TON of hype surrounding them that featured angels. Didn’t read them, myself. #UFChat
11:08 pm Jess_Haines: @DawnEmbers If you grew up on D&D, yeah, it’s different. But that’s par for the course in UF. #UFChat
11:08 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells @DawnEmbers Not true. I have a mage feature fairly prominently in my novels, even if he’s a secondary character. #UFChat
11:09 pm leapetra: @DawnEmbers to me, mage is a person that is born with magic. Wizard learns. #ufchat
11:09 pm Jess_Haines: @DawnEmbers Ah. Yeah, they are more prominently featured in epic/high fantasy than UF, it’s true. #UFChat
11:10 pm leapetra: @jess_haines vampires: get them out of high school first. #UFChat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: Do you all see more emphasis in magic than magical creatures then? #UFChat
11:10 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells @DawnEmbers Also, I just read something… think it was Karen Chance? Featured use of mages. #UFChat
11:10 pm DawnEmbers: I’ll admit, I haven’t read much in the way of urban fantasy but I might this year. #UFchat
11:10 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells @DawnEmbers They are out there, just have to look for ’em. #UFChat
11:10 pm Jess_Haines: AMEN. RT @leapetra: @jess_haines vampires: get them out of high school first. #UFChat
11:11 pm QQwill: #UFChat I think that we are going to see a lot more steampunk paranormals
11:11 pm UF_Chat: RT @Jess_Haines: AMEN. RT @leapetra: @jess_haines vampires: get them out of high school first. #UFChat >> I second that
11:12 pm L_Bushman: RT @UF_Chat: RT @Jess_Haines: AMEN. RT @leapetra: @jess_haines vampires: get them out of high school first. #UFChat >> I second that
11:12 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells This is true. Dresden is the main one–not many others use them as MCs. @DawnEmbers #UFChat
11:12 pm UF_Chat: anyone looking forward to any new books this year? #UFChat
11:12 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells Magic-user in general, I mean (wizard/sorcerer/mage). @DawnEmbers #UFChat
11:13 pm Jess_Haines: RT @UF_Chat: anyone looking forward to any new books this year? #UFChat >>PALE DEMON and GHOST STORY. πŸ˜€
11:13 pm leapetra: everything is lagging for me WAAAAH #UFChat
11:13 pm jayewells: @Jess_Haines @DawnEmbers Yeah I think there’s a difference bt a mage and a wizard. #ufchat
11:13 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra 😦 can you try tweet deck or use the twitter search? #UFChat
11:14 pm QQwill: Several. Love @Ben_Aaronovitch‘s Rivers of London series. RT @UF_Chat: anyone looking forward to any new books this year? #UFChat
11:14 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells True. Everyone has their own take on it, though, from what I’ve seen. @DawnEmbers #UFChat
11:14 pm cdreimer: My vampire novella is different: 90YO twin brothers, vampire hunter & master vampire, look back on their destructive life b4 dying. #UFChat
11:15 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra Try TweetDeck, if you can. Works beautifully for me on a crappy little netbook. #UFChat
11:15 pm jayewells: @Jess_Haines @DawnEmbers Yeah the specific world building twists by every author is part of the fun of the genre. #ufchat
11:15 pm QQwill: I agree completely. RT @jayewells: @Jess_Haines @DawnEmbers Yeah I think there’s a difference bt a mage and a wizard. #ufchat
11:15 pm leapetra: @shadowflame1974 twitter search is working the best right now, the reast about 5 – 10 mins behind #UFChat
11:15 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells @DawnEmbers Yes, precisely. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:16 pm ladytechie: @QQwill I am reading the US version of @Ben_Aaronovitch, Midnight Riot. I look forward to the others in the series. #UFChat
11:17 pm UF_Chat: Has there been much of a change in cover art this year. The Orbit links I showed earlier shows some changes #UFChat
11:17 pm DawnEmbers: #UFchat I’m looking forward to reading books from last year because I’m behind in reading but have a book review blog now
11:18 pm QQwill: @leapetra If it’s handled well. Perhaps we should call it parapunk, not steampunk? #ufchat
11:18 pm leapetra: I am still catching up with my books from last year #UFChat
11:18 pm perfectchichi: RT @UF_Chat: RT @Jess_Haines: AMEN. RT @leapetra: @jess_haines vampires: get them out of high school first. #UFChat >> I second that
11:18 pm UF_Chat: Cover trends 2009: I love thesePart 1 http://bit.ly/eDv6rmPart 2 http://bit.ly/eSfrtP From Orbit books. #UFChat
11:18 pm Jess_Haines: #UFChat I have a lot of books from last year I still need to read. Just recently bought GRAVE WITCH, DARK & STORMY KNIGHTS, etc.
11:18 pm QQwill: @ladytechie I loved Midnight Riot. Moon Over Soho is out on March 1, 2011. #UFChat
11:19 pm leapetra: @QQwill You could also throw dieselpunk on top of it. #UFChat
11:19 pm shadowflame1974: I have so much in my TBR pile. #UFChat
11:19 pm ladytechie: I have several just on 2/22 release date that are on my list to purchase. #UFChat
11:19 pm cdreimer: I also wrote about 20YO vampire queen, college educated, hiding until she’s ready to deliver vampire messiah baby – on her terms. #UFChat
11:20 pm QQwill: @leapetra That’s true. I do think it will evolve into it’s own punk nitch. Like bustlepunk has. #UFChat
11:20 pm leapetra: I am surprised there hasn’t been a big push with American folklore monsters. #UFChat
11:20 pm leapetra: Wouldn’t you love to read a book a bout a jackalope? #UFChat
11:21 pm ladytechie: I have a TBR room with literally hundreds of books and having a Nook and Kindle has only exacerbated the problem. #UFChat
11:21 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra I’m a bit surprised about this too. Also Asian and Indian mythology. #UFChat
11:21 pm QQwill: @leapetra I’ve heard rumor of Wendigo storeis. #UFChat I think one made an appearance in the Dresden Files already.
11:21 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra LOL, a jackalope, huh? Sure. #UFChat
11:21 pm ladytechie: Yes, Cindy Pon’s next book is high on my list. #UFChat
11:21 pm QQwill: @ladytechie I have a huge TBR. I’ll never get through it! #UFChat
11:21 pm leapetra: twitter search is working for me. thank goodness #UFChat
11:21 pm DawnEmbers: @QQwill a wendigo would be interesting. I liked a wendigo movie years ago #UFchat
11:22 pm cdreimer: There’s more to vampires than being forever young, sparkling, and too stupid to graduate from high school and/or move on. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:22 pm leapetra: @QQwill Wendigo is good, I would love to see something with the Melonheads, Mothman, Beast of Bay Road, etc #UFChat
11:22 pm QQwill: @DawnEmbers I’ve seen a wendigo used in shows/ movies a couple of times. #UFChat
11:22 pm ladytechie: @QQwill Midnight Riot is hilarious and I love that it is not in the U.S. #UFChat
11:22 pm jonfmerz: #ufchat how many of you are doing the majority of your reading on Kindles & Nooks now?
11:22 pm Jess_Haines: I’d like to see something with a wendigo, too. Mostly seen movies, not books. #UFChat
11:23 pm ladytechie: @jonfmerz Honestly, I have to do all 3, physical and both Nook and Kindle. #UFChat
11:23 pm jonfmerz: @cdreimer and thank god for that #ufchat
11:23 pm leapetra: @Jess_Haines strange thing is there is a disease that causes bony tumours to form behind rabbits ears #UFChat
11:24 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz I have the software on my laptop and phone, but haven’t bought an ereading device. #UFChat
11:24 pm ladytechie: @jonfmerz Yes, I am a tech nut and actually have an iPad too. I use the Kindle and Nook more. #UFChat
11:24 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra O.o Funky! Maybe that’s where the idea for them came from. #UFChat
11:25 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz Yep. Not as often as paper, but I do read them. #UFChat
11:25 pm shadowflame1974: #UFChat I have Calibre on my netbook. so I can read online but still prefer the books. #UFChat
11:25 pm ladytechie: I have series that I follow that I want the physical books for because the covers are great. #UFChat
11:25 pm jonfmerz: @ladytechie I just put all my Lawson vampire stuff up on Kindle & Nook but I was wondering how many UF fans actually read ebooks #ufchat
11:25 pm jayewells: @ladytechie @jonfmerz I’d love to see an ereader study by genre preference. So would most of publishing I’d imagine. #ufchat
11:26 pm BeccaBell9: “@jonfmerz: #ufchat how many of you are doing the majority of your reading on Kindles & ?” Zero. Call me old school – like my paper books!
11:26 pm QQwill: @ladytechie You should try Mike Shevdon’s Courts of the Feyre series and Suzanne McLeod’s Spellcracker series. #UFChat
11:26 pm jayewells: @jonfmerz @ladytechie In my experience UF fans are enthusiastic about ebooks. #ufchat
11:26 pm cdreimer: I’m working on a short story about killer California condors. Indian folklore says that the condor can cut off heads & drink blood. #UFChat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: @jonfmerz I think a lot of them do. If you look on Amazon, most titles are now offered on eBook format. #UFChat
11:27 pm jonfmerz: @jayewells @ladytechie yeah that’s what I’m wondering. Is UF a big genre for ebooks? #ufchat
11:27 pm DawnEmbers: #UFchat I read paperback. The only things I read on my computer are unpublished for friends or chapters for publisher I’m an intern with
11:27 pm ladytechie: @QQwill I love the Spellcracker series! I am looking up the Mike Shevdon’s series now. #UFChat
11:27 pm jayewells: @QQwill @ladytechie I second the Suzanne McLeod rec. She’s brilliant. But I’m biased sine she’s my crit partner. πŸ˜‰ #ufchat
11:27 pm jonfmerz: @BeccaBell9 me too but so many folks seem to go for ’em #ufchat
11:28 pm ladytechie: I hate when that happens. I have Mike Chevdon’s Sixty-One Inch Nails in my TBR Library. #UFChat
11:28 pm jonfmerz: @UF_Chat good point. Happy I’ve got a lot of stuff out there, but it’s been interesting for sure! #ufchat
11:28 pm ladytechie: @jonfmerz Oh yes, for me it is. #UFChat
11:28 pm leapetra: @cdreimer That’s a great bit folklore. I love finding bits like that #UFChat
11:28 pm cdreimer: Before I saw “Season of The Witch,” I saw movie trailers for irresponsible people and demons. My recent flash fiction was all that. #UFChat
11:29 pm Jess_Haines: @cdreimer That just gave me flashbacks to Blair Witch. AUGH. #UFChat
11:29 pm ladytechie: @jayewells @jonfmerz Yes, and I was traveling about every other month and it was more convenient then multiple books in the luggage. #UFChat
11:30 pm jonfmerz: @ladytechie I can track sales of my paperback, but don’t know how many ebooks of my latest have sold but I think it’s abut the same #ufchat
11:30 pm cdreimer: Irresponsible people and demons – a new trend? Horror couldn’t exist w/o irresponsible people. Demons are new signs of the times? #UFChat
11:31 pm leapetra: I am hooked on the regional folklore, not just in the United States. So many good horror tales #UFChat
11:31 pm jonfmerz: @ladytechie @jayewells that makes sense. My wife got a Kindle for Christmas and loves it. #ufchat
11:31 pm Jess_Haines: @cdreimer Could be. Lots of books featuring demons out there now. LKH had an interesting one before she got all porny. #UFChat
11:31 pm QQwill: @Jess_Haines Jackie Kessler has the Hell series with demons. It’s great. #UFChat
11:32 pm Jess_Haines: @QQwill Ohh, I’ll have to check that out. @StaciaKane also has a good UF with demons. #UFChat
11:32 pm ladytechie: @Jess_Haines Yes, on the demons. I was all set to read Hellforged but needed a break on demons. I love that series. #UFChat
11:33 pm inkgypsy: Popping in briefly – talking demons I see? #UFchat
11:33 pm inkgypsy: Me too! RT @leapetra: I am hooked on the regional folklore, not just in the United States. So many good horror tales #UFChat
11:33 pm Jess_Haines: @ladytechie Haven’t read that series yet. Been hearing a lot about it, though. #UFChat
11:34 pm ladytechie: Another I am looking forward to is Gail Carriger’s next release. #UFChat
11:34 pm cdreimer: @Jess_Haines I’m not really into demons. I’m more of a “let’s make a deal with the devil and see how bad it gets” type. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:34 pm leapetra: Surprising with some of the 2012 end of the world stuff, not more end of the world UF #UFChat
11:34 pm QQwill: @Jess_Haines Yes she does. First one in the series is Personal Demons. #UFChat
11:34 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Discussing current UF trends and what’s popular. Demons came up on the list. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:34 pm UF_Chat: *ads to the TBR list* #UFChat
11:34 pm jonfmerz: The Sandman Slim books deal with demons in a pretty cool way #ufchat
11:35 pm Jess_Haines: @cdreimer Did you ever see that Schwarzenegger movie, End of Days? #UFChat
11:35 pm UF_Chat: Some might consider demons as end of the world topics. the Devil too. #UFChat
11:35 pm QQwill: @leapetra Nina Bangs is doing a PNR based series around the 2012 myth. Can’t think of a UF though. #UFChat
11:35 pm jayewells: @Jess_Haines @cdreimer LOL “You are a choir boy compared to me!” Loved End of Days. #ufchat
11:36 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells YES!! πŸ˜„ @cdreimer #UFChat
11:36 pm ladytechie: I am a huge fan of the Gin Blanco series by Jennifer Estep too. Can’t wait for that one. #UFChat
11:36 pm leapetra: @cdreimer Unless you are Lordi, then the Devil’s your bitch. (great song: Devil is a Loser) #UFChat
11:36 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra American folklore monsters – wondering why not as well. Maybe people worried about stepping on native toes? #UFchat
11:36 pm jonfmerz: @Jess_Haines @cdreimer that movie had so much potential, but…ugh. #ufchat
11:36 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells I have to put in the DVD after I finish watching Aliens, lol. @cdreimer #UFChat
11:36 pm jayewells: @Jess_Haines @cdreimer It’s pure cheesy fun. #ufchat
11:37 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Dark & Stormy Knights was a good antho – not perfect but then I haven’t read a perfect antho. #UFchat
11:37 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz I enjoyed it. Considering who was in it and what they had to work with, I think they did pretty damn good. @cdreimer #UFChat
11:37 pm shadowflame1974: @inkgypsy maybe differences in interpretations. Different tribes had diferent views on monsters. #UFChat
11:37 pm cdreimer: Did a vampire story set at the CA U.S./Mexican border where the *chupacabra* (goat sucker) was mentioned as a passing joke. #UFChat
11:37 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy I’m looking forward to it. Roomie is shoving THE BOOK OF JHEREG down my throat first, lol. #UFChat
11:38 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy There are alot of tales from logging that are not Native American inspired. #UFChat
11:38 pm jonfmerz: @Jess_Haines @cdreimer yeah that’s good point, well taken #ufchat
11:38 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz Yeeeesssss. Watching the extended edition right now. πŸ˜€ @jayewells @cdreimer #UFChat
11:38 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines I know demons were touted as the “it” creature for 2010 but not sure they clicked as much as expected. #UFchat
11:38 pm ladytechie: Oh another thing I am liking and hope more for are supernaturals working for the government. #UFChat
11:38 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines There are much worse roomies out there! Yours sounds like a keeper – at least for a while πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜€ #UFChat
11:38 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz If it had the budget/cast/director of Avatar, that would be a different story. :D@cdreimer #UFChat
11:39 pm jonfmerz: @Jess_Haines OMG yes! #ufchat
11:39 pm cdreimer: @Jess_Haines No, I haven’t. I tend to draw on dealing w/ the devil through my church experience (i.e, the evil that good men allow). #UFChat
11:39 pm jayewells: Okay I’m heading out for the night. Thanks for letting me stop by #ufchat. Lots of great UFs coming out in the next couple of months.
11:39 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy PERSONAL DEMONS by @StaciaKane was the only one that I really enjoyed. #UFChat
11:40 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra I agree – & is a lot that are ‘New American’ too (settler tales also based on native folklore but on new land experience. #UFchat
11:40 pm leapetra: http://www.folklore.lumberwoods.com/title.htm #UFChat
11:40 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy LOL, he’s all right. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:40 pm Jess_Haines: @cdreimer Should check it out, it’s amusing. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:41 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines I admit I’m a little baffled by the demon interest. I get bored very quickly. Angels too. But prob just personal pref. #UFchat
11:41 pm Jess_Haines: @ladytechie Did you read BLOOD LAW by @JeannieHolmes? #UFChat
11:41 pm tasmin21: @UF_Chat Tossing my name in as a writer of demons. #UFChat Also have a WIP involving a jackalope AND a wendigo.
11:41 pm leapetra: http://www.folklore.lumberwoods.com/title.htm Logging creatures #UFchat
11:41 pm QQwill: @inkgypsy @Jess_Haines I don’t mind the demons when set against a rich and varied mythology. There are lost of demons. #UFChat
11:41 pm DawnEmbers: @inkgypsy personal preference is a big thing in the genre #UFchat I get bored easily with any vampire story
11:42 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Angels and demons never really were my thing. Doesn’t mean I never read them, just… infrequently. #UFChat
11:42 pm cdreimer: I think most Americans are generally ignorant of folklore. I might’ve read two Indian folklore stories while in college. #UFChat
11:42 pm inkgypsy: Ooh nice! I’m bookmarking! RT @leapetra: http://bit.ly/emlflG Logging creatures #UFchat
11:42 pm ladytechie: @inkgypsy I thought I loved the angels, it seems that I am just a fan of the Archangels by Nalini SIngh tho I’m not a big PNR fan #UFChat
11:42 pm ladytechie: @Jess_Haines Yes, Blood Law was good! #UFChat
11:43 pm Jess_Haines: RT @tasmin21: @UF_Chat Tossing my name in as a writer of demons. #UFChat Also have a WIP involving a jackalope AND a wendigo. >> WIN. πŸ˜€
11:43 pm jonfmerz: I gotta run, but I hope all you UF fans will grab a copy of my latest: THE KENSEI -with vampires and ninjas- in stores everywhere. #ufchat
11:43 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy me too, i prefer interdimensonal creatures #UFchat
11:43 pm jonfmerz: good talking to you all! #ufchat
11:43 pm Jess_Haines: @DawnEmbers Really? What if it involves zombies? πŸ˜€ http://bit.ly/eavW9z #UFChat
11:44 pm DawnEmbers: I’ll admit #UFchat I have an angel/demon paranormal romance, but i haven’t read the similar books in the genre #badwriter
11:44 pm DawnEmbers: @Jess_Haines I’ve only read one zombie book, so still not sure how I feel on them #UFchat
11:44 pm leapetra: @cdreimer What about Pecos Bil, or Paul Bunyan, or John Henry, its a pity if kids don’t know about them now. #UFchat
11:44 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz You, too! Thanks for stopping by! πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:44 pm inkgypsy: @QQwill Differently cultured backgrounds using demons can read- v. interesting but standard Western gets samey for me. #UFchat @Jess_Haines
11:45 pm UF_Chat: I think it is a pitty too. Perhaps more of us could think of way to remake and rebuild them #UFChat
11:45 pm GraylinFox: RT @inkgypsy Ooh nice! I’m bookmarking! RT @leapetra: http://bit.ly/emlflG Logging creatures #UFchat
11:45 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra They don’t?? That’s terrible! (I’m surrounded by cartoon people so we always see those versions then expand here). #UFchat
11:46 pm johnmierau: Sticks up hand for @jonfmerz re RT: #ufchat how many of you are doing the majority of your reading on Kindles & Nooks now?
11:46 pm Jess_Haines: Oh, speaking of demons!! OMG, any other Big Al (Kim Harrison Hollows series) fans out there? πŸ˜€ #UFChat
11:46 pm inkgypsy: Anybody know how Monster High franchise is doing? It was booming before Xmas. interesting use of classic monsters for tweens/teens. #UFchat
11:46 pm QQwill: Another trend – Death, Grim Reaper of whatever you want to call him/her/it books. #UFChat
11:46 pm UF_Chat: #UFChat so what if Blue the ox was a snow creature who fell in love with Paul Bunyon?
11:46 pm shadowflame1974: #UFChat so what if Blue the ox was a snow creature who fell in love with Paul Bunyon?
11:46 pm jonfmerz: @Jess_Haines trying to make this a regular stop every Saturday! #ufchat BTW, I run free fiction in my newsletter http://bit.ly/fDOALy
11:46 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines OK – you got me. Him I can read. πŸ˜€ #UFchat
11:47 pm cdreimer: I’m planning to do an updated Hansel & Gretel fairy tale, where the dead witch’s spirit is in the recycled bricks for a home oven. #UFChat
11:47 pm GraylinFox: RT @Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Discussing current UF trends and what’s popular. Demons came up on the list. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:47 pm Jess_Haines: @QQwill Really? I’ve only seen one of these, GRAVE WITCH. #UFChat
11:47 pm UF_Chat: Or maybe their deeds were more than that? #UFChat so many ways to go with legends
11:47 pm DawnEmbers: Maybe I should use a mage instead of demon hunter in my SLC urban fantasy idea *ponders* #UFChat More my type anyways
11:47 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz Awesome, I’ll check it out. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:47 pm QQwill: @Jess_Haines Death Works series by Trent Jamieson. Amber Benson’s Calliope Reaper-Jones series. There are others. #UFChat
11:48 pm inkgypsy: @cdreimer I’d be interested – let me know. I’ll promote it – I’m huge supporter of fairy tale revisits. H&G has many possibilities. #UFchat
11:48 pm jonfmerz: @johnmierau thanks John! have you grabbed my Lawson stuff on the Nook or Kindle? 5 novels, a novella & 4 shorts! #ufchat
11:48 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy 4 srs. I really want to read WORLD WAR Z after reading that short. #UFChat
11:48 pm GraylinFox: RT @UF_Chat: #UFChat so what if Blue the ox was a snow creature who fell in love with Paul Bunyon?
11:48 pm Jess_Haines: @QQwill Huh. Haven’t heard of either of those. #UFChat
11:48 pm cdreimer: @leapetra I heard them in passing while in school. John Henry I learned from a PBS or Saturday morning short cartoon. #UFchat
11:48 pm thelightedbridg: RT @leapetra: Wouldn’t you love to read a book a bout a jackalope? #UFChat
11:49 pm LSMatson: @jonfmerz Will do. Just found #UFchat. And Go Gators.
11:49 pm inkgypsy: I must bow out once more. Great to participate & see you all briefly! #UFchat
11:49 pm shadowflame1974: @inkgypsy see you later ! #UFChat
11:49 pm jonfmerz: @LSMatson thanks! #ufchat
11:50 pm kwyskiel: RT @jonfmerz: I gotta run, but I hope all you UF fans will grab a copy of my latest: THE KENSEI -with vampires and ninjas- in stores everywhere. #ufchat
11:50 pm leapetra: RT @UF_Chat #UFChat so what if Blue the ox was a snow creature who fell in love with Paul Bunyon? <scary thought, unless shapeshifter
11:50 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy See you later! πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:50 pm LSMatson: IS #UFchat a regular Saturday night gig for writers?
11:50 pm QQwill: @Jess_Haines Trent’s: Death Most Definite and Managing Death. Amber’s: Death’s Daughter, Cat’s Claw & Serpent’s Storm. #UFChat
11:50 pm Jess_Haines: @QQwill Will look them up next time I go book shopping. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:51 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra see a legend can be retold. Just needs new eyes to see it #UFChat
11:51 pm leapetra: @cdreimer Disney did a movie called Tall Tale, years ago. That was the last time I saw them on screen #UFchat
11:51 pm Jess_Haines: @LSMatson Writers, fans, whatever. πŸ™‚ Every Saturday afternoon. #UFChat
11:51 pm QQwill: @inkgypsy I have to dash. Thank you for an interesting and enjoyable discussion. #UFChat
11:51 pm shadowflame1974: @QQwill Glad to have you. #UFChat
11:51 pm cdreimer: Since my story revolves around bricks, stepmother (before being possessed by the witch) reads the kids “The Three Little Pigs.” πŸ™‚ #UFchat
11:52 pm tordotUF: Are you chatting on Twitter right now? Join the conversation with hastag #UFchat
11:52 pm Jess_Haines: @QQwill Catch you later! πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:53 pm edmarrow: @jonfmerz My wife and I do 95% on our matching Nooks. #ufchat #cutecouple
11:53 pm shadowflame1974: @tordotUF Thank you for the RT! #UFChat
11:53 pm leapetra: @shadowflame1974 Paul Bunyan might get pissed if he saw all his forests gone. And it would be ironic too #UFchat
11:53 pm crazy_legz: ohhok!! New Captain America Poster looks FAB!! RT @tordotUF: Join the conversation with hastag #UFchat
11:53 pm Ramenth: #UFchat, eh? Interesting, I’m ashamed to say this is the first I’ve heard of it. What’s up, other Urban Fantasy people. Anyone writing atm?
11:53 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra it might be. lots of potential in that #UFChat
11:54 pm UF_Chat: @Ramenth @crazy_legz welcome to the chat. Today is open discussion on trends. #UFChat
11:54 pm Jess_Haines: @Ramenth Ayup. Working on a novella for an anthology coming out later this year about bitchy werewives. *g* You? #UFChat
11:54 pm leapetra: @Ramenth writing when I am not wresting my computer to the ground and trying to make it submit! #UFchat
11:55 pm cdreimer: I loved “The True Story of The 3 Little Pigs!” by Jon Scieszka and Lane Smith, where the story is told from the wolf’s perspective. #UFChat
11:55 pm shadowflame1974: @cdreimer that was an awesome little story. #UFChat
11:55 pm tordotUF: @cdreimer Who doesn’t love a good fractured fairy tale? #ufchat
11:56 pm Jess_Haines: You know what I would like to see more of? Dark/gritty vamp and zombie fiction that is not YA. #UFChat
11:56 pm UF_Chat: We will be continuing the discussion for as long as we have participants. #UFChat
11:57 pm leapetra: RT @Jess_Haines: You know what I would like to see more of? Dark/gritty vamp and zombie fiction that is not YA. #UFChat
11:57 pm readingecstasy: @cdreimer Seems like a take on the tale familiar to me, but I doubt it’s the book you mentioned. #UFChat
11:57 pm crazy_legz: Trends as in not Captain Americas new Poster? aww! Like Paranormal SP etc? Where has all the Epic/High fantasy gone? #UFChat
11:57 pm readingecstasy: @tordotUF @cdreimer Agreed. #ufchat
11:58 pm tordotUF: @crazy_legz I saw it too. Looks good #ufchat
11:58 pm Jess_Haines: @crazy_legz Well, this IS the *urban* fantasy chat. I’m sure there are high/epic fantasy chats out there, too. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
11:58 pm Ramenth: @Jess_Haines Writing a novel atm, actually, about Vampires and Lawyers. It’s kinda cliche, but I don’t think it’s really been done. #ufchat
11:58 pm cdreimer: @Jess_Haines Check out my “Dead Enders” story in Fem-Fangs (Pill Hill Press). http://www.cdreimer.com/books/femfangsanthology.html #UFchat
11:58 pm readingecstasy: @Jess_Haines Where have you been looking? #UFChat
11:58 pm ladytechie: @crazy_legz I’m new to the High Fantasy but loving the ones I’ve read so far. N K Jemisin! #UFChat
11:58 pm DawnEmbers: #UFchat there is a general fantasy chat on Tuesday’s called #Flitchat
11:58 pm UF_Chat: @crazy_legz Trends that affect UF in general and Speculative fiction in general today. #UFChat though we usually have Q&A
11:59 pm shadowflame1974: @crazy_legz and I wonder too about the Epic Fantasy. Is it too complicated for some writiers? #UFChat
11:59 pm tordotUF: @Jess_Haines @Ramenth Really? I’d buy that. Which anthology? #ufchat
February 6, 2011
ladytechie: @shadowflame1974 I had trouble with the made-up worlds at first until I saw the beauty in world building. #UFChat
Jess_Haines: @tordotUF The werewives thing? Antho isn’t out yet. Probably not even available for preorder. @Ramenth #UFChat
12:01 am shadowflame1974: @ladytechie World building can be frustrating and amazing depending on how it is done. #UFChat
12:01 am Ramenth: #ufchat @tordotUF We’ll see how it turns out. @Jess_Haines: Echoing @tordotUF here; what Anthology!
12:01 am Jess_Haines: @tordotUF Will be titled THE REAL WEREWIVES OF VAMPIRE COUNTY. Spoof on reality tv shows. πŸ™‚ @Ramenth #UFChat
12:01 am Ramenth: @Jess_Haines #UFChat huh, cool. Well, I look forward to reading it.
12:01 am ladytechie: @Jess_Haines That sounds hilarious! #UFChat
12:02 am Jess_Haines: @ReadingEcstasy I follow more than just the romance femmes. I also keep an eye on SciFiGuy, ATUF, a few others. #UFChat
12:02 am ladytechie: @shadowflame1974 I can see how it can be difficult and have seen authors talk about charts. I think they might be necessary. #UFChat
12:02 am Jess_Haines: @Ramenth @ladytechie Thank you! πŸ™‚ Not sure who the other authors in the antho will be, but I’m sure it’ll be awesome! #UFChat
12:02 am leapetra: @shadowflame1974 Or become time consuming (glances at wall covered with maps of fictional town) #UFchat
12:03 am Ramenth: @Jess_Haines #UFCHat, okay that is frankly an incredible title. You win an internets.
12:03 am shadowflame1974: @ladytechie they are. charts and spreadsheets, and notes can be very complicated. #UFChat
12:03 am Jess_Haines: @Ramenth LOL, thank you! Wish I thought of it. My editor is a genius. πŸ˜„ My story in the antho is WHAT’S YOURS IS MINE. #UFChat
12:03 am shadowflame1974: @leapetra lol yes! #UFChat
12:03 am readingecstasy: @Jess_Haines That’s good. Diversity is key. I’m going back to the crazy this year. I’ll keep you updated. #UFChat
12:03 am crazy_legz: @shadowflame1974 yeah I’ve come to the conclusion it is. *sniffs* #UFchat
12:04 am Jess_Haines: @ReadingEcstasy Please do. I have added JOHN DIES AT THE END and WORLD WAR Z to my TBR so far. #UFChat
12:04 am Jess_Haines: @JackieKessler Awesome! πŸ˜€ #UFChat
12:04 am egtalbot: @jonfmerz I do about 80-90% of my vreading on kindle now #ufchat
12:04 am tordotUF: @Jess_Haines @tordotUF @Ramenth I’ll keep an eye out for it #ufchat
12:04 am shadowflame1974: @crazy_legz No worries though. I think it will come back around. Been more talk about it lately. #UFChat
12:05 am Jess_Haines: @tordotUF @Ramenth Expect it will come out either later this year or early next year since my contribution is not due until April. #UFChat
12:06 am leapetra: @shadowflame1974 I love making worlds. Deerbow City for my vampires. And a whole world for my minstrels. #UFchat
12:07 am shadowflame1974: @leapetra I loved it when i was writing novel 1, the UF novels are half reality half fantasy so at least have a basis for tonws #UFChat
12:08 am crazy_legz: @UF_Chat meh, cool thanks! Twas all I needed to know! πŸ˜€ #UFChat
12:09 am Jess_Haines: #UFChat LOL, queen alien is chasing Newt and Ripley comes to save her. My day is made. πŸ˜€
12:11 am UF_Chat: Well, I think our chat is winding down. Thanks everyone for participating. We will be back next week! #UFChat
12:12 am Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Looking forward to it, as always. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
12:12 am crazy_legz: @UF_Chat I’ll be on earlier then so! lol! #UFChat
12:13 am UF_Chat: Lots of ideas, lots to think about. We are considering having open discussion once a month what do you think? #UFChat
12:14 am Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Needs some guidance, IMHO, so people have an idea what they’re chatting about. #UFChat
12:15 am shadowflame1974: @Jess_Haines My fault on that one, Kids got home at the wrong time. >.< #UFChat
12:16 am Jess_Haines: @shadowflame1974 No worries. πŸ™‚ I think we had fun today! #UFChat
12:16 am shadowflame1974: @Jess_Haines I hope so #UFChat
12:17 am UF_Chat: Night all and if you have anyting you’d like to talk about send a @ #UFChat
12:17 am ladytechie: Great #UFChat today! See everyone soon.
12:17 am Jess_Haines: @shadowflame1974 Got and gave some good book recs, and I had a good time. πŸ™‚ #UFChat
12:21 am jflamingo2: @UF_Chat I haven’t been around to join your chats for some time but it’s always interesting I think an open discussion would do well #UFchat
12:21 am Jess_Haines: OK, #UFChat is over, so I’m going to grab a drink and settle down to more Werewives hilarity and watch End of Days. πŸ˜€
12:25 am AyeQue: RT @Jess_Haines: You know what I would like to see more of? Dark/gritty vamp and zombie fiction that is not YA. #UFChat
12:43 am Rachel__Graves: I need some new authors, any suggestions for ghost stories, paranormal romances, Urban fantasy, and horror? #ufchat #authors #reading
12:45 am Jess_Haines: @Rachel__Graves Have you read Laurrell K. Hamilton? Kim Harrison? Jim Butcher? Charlaine Harris? Patricia Briggs? Staples of UF. #UFChat
12:47 am Ramenth: #UFChat @Rachel_Graves The October Daye series by @seananmcguire is also very good.
1:39 am sandrawickham: @shadowflame1974 @UF_Chat I missed #UFchat cuz I’m down and out with some stoopid sickness. Just got outta bed. Drat! *waves anyway*
1:44 am JeannieHolmes: Agreed. RT @Jess_Haines: You know what I would like to see more of? Dark/gritty vamp and zombie fiction that is not YA. #UFChat
3:43 am frannymiller: RT @JeannieHolmes: Agreed. RT @Jess_Haines: You know what I would like to see more of? Dark/gritty vamp and zombie fiction that is not YA. #UFChat
8:43 am AnassaRh: Heading into the #ufchat transcript. Consider yourselves warned. (Imagine tonight will be long and rambly.)
8:47 am AnassaRh: Trends in 2010’s UF? More fae, some steampunk. YA had those too, plus angels and medium-types. #ufchat
8:49 am specficdb: RT @AnassaRh: Trends in 2010’s UF? More fae, some steampunk. YA had those too, plus angels and medium-types. #ufchat
8:51 am AnassaRh: I’m not sure I see an emphasis on magic in the 2010 UF. Upcoming? Yeah, I think we’ll probably see that. #ufchat
8:52 am AnassaRh: I suspect we’ll see more mixed-myth worlds, where it’s not just Celtic or Norse or Roman, but is a bit of everything. #ufchat
8:53 am specficdb: RT @AnassaRh: I suspect we’ll see more mixed-myth worlds, where it’s not just Celtic or Norse or Roman, but is a bit of everything. #ufchat
8:54 am AnassaRh: Books I’m looking forward to? Bloodshot, Brush of Darkness, Midnight Riot, Heartless, Late Eclipses, One Salt Sea, MM of Labyrinth. #ufchat
8:55 am AnassaRh: And of course, there are a whole lot of pre-2011 books I haven’t gotten through yet. #ufchat
8:55 am specficdb: RT @AnassaRh: Books I’m looking forward to? Bloodshot, Brush of Darkness, Midnight Riot, Heartless, Late Eclipses, One Salt Sea, MM of Labyrinth. #ufchat
8:59 am AnassaRh: I didn’t pull up the Orbit links, but if memory serves, we’re seeing less flesh, more sensible outfits. Also more heads? #ufchat
9:03 am jolantru: RT @AnassaRh: Trends in 2010’s UF? More fae, some steampunk. YA had those too, plus angels and medium-types. #ufchat
9:04 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy @leapetra Toe stepping’s likely an issue, yeah. Also scant records for some baddies, and general lack of knowledge. #ufchat
9:05 am AnassaRh: .@inkgypsy @leapetra I’d imagine many more people know Western, even Asian monsters, than do the American ones. #ufchat
9:06 am AnassaRh: Of course, there are lots of American monsters created by whites. We don’t see those ones either. #ufchat
9:17 am AnassaRh: @Rachel__Graves I second the October Daye rec. Also Kat Richardson, Stacia Kane, Suzanne McLeod, Lilith Saintcrow, Mike Carey. #ufchat
9:20 am AnassaRh: So, looks like #ufchat was less guided than I’d expected (no crit to @shadowflame1974). Looking forward to more open chats, though.
9:21 am AnassaRh: More predictions of things to come? Based on comments in previous #ufchat‘s, we’ll start seeing women with families and non-Western monsters
9:22 am AnassaRh: It also sounds like there’s going to be a backlash against alpha-alpha males and MCs in law enforcement. #ufchat
9:23 am AnassaRh: And I’m totally up for all of that! Even if I’m not writing about most of that stuff at the moment. #ufchat
9:23 am jolantru: RT @AnassaRh: More predictions of things to come? Based on comments in previous #ufchat‘s, we’ll start seeing women with families and non-Western monsters
11:43 am crazy_legz: @ariadne aye but on Tuesday we have #Flitchat which does all things fantasy #UFChat is just for Urban Fantasy πŸ˜‰
12:38 pm leapetra: RT @anassarh: It also sounds like there’s going to be a backlash against alpha-alpha males and MCs in law enforcement. #ufchat <agree
3:32 pm marirandomities: Many, many thanks! πŸ™‚ RT @kimidreams: The #ufchat Daily is out! http://bit.ly/etTGlm ? Top stories today via @marirandomities @UF_Chat
February 7, 2011
3:29 am jolantru: Excerpt is out!: http://www.lyricalpress.com/store/index.php?main_page=authors&authors_id=165 #ufchat