Transcript for December 11, 2010: Life, Death & AFTERLIFE – Q&A with Merrie Destefano
This week’s TOPIC: Life, Death & Afterlife in UF plus a Q&A with guest author Merrie Destefano discussing her UF debut, AFTERLIFE!
Merrie is the author of the futuristic UF novel “Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles” and has co-authored the Walter Foster book “How to Draw Zombies” – obviously she’s no stranger to the undead..! ![]()
Official UFchat questions in YELLOW, other questions to guest author are in ORANGE and guest author replies to both participants & moderator are in RED for easier reading.
Resources/ topic-related links are in BLUE.
We also had a giveaway – a signed copy of AFTERLIFE to one lucky participant who asked Merrie a question, given a number and was chosen by random.org. The winner was: @J_GriffinB!
| 12:12 am | inkgypsy: | @shadowflame1974 Going to be great #UFchat with @MerrieDestefano Q&A on AFTERLIFE & giveaway! Tell people to ask questions if want to enter! |
| 12:15 am | shadowflame1974: | Going to be great #UFchat with @MerrieDestefano Q&A on AFTERLIFE & giveaway! Tell people to ask questions if want to enter! |
| 12:21 am | MerrieDestefano: | Thanks! Looking forward to it! << RT @inkgypsy @shadowflame1974: Q&A on AFTERLIFE & giveaway! << #UFchat Sat., 3 p.m. PST |
| 12:51 am | inkgypsy: | Transformer owl! http://youtu.be/gFwgblszf6s The Count Drac version is weirdly-amazing. No wonder vampires & owls are linked! #UFchat |
| 12:56 am | Laura_Bickle: | RT @inkgypsy: Transformer owl! http://youtu.be/gFwgblszf6s The Count Drac version is weirdly-amazing. No wonder vampires & owls are linked! #UFchat |
| 1:33 am | LunaLindsey: | RT @inkgypsy: Transformer owl! http://youtu.be/gFwgblszf6s The Count Drac version is weirdly-amazing. No wonder vampires & owls are linked! #UFchat |
| 5:25 am | UF_Chat: | Reminder to all mid-week night creatures Sat #UFchat has guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano + signed copy of AFTERLIFE to win during chat! |
| 5:25 am | inkgypsy: | Reminder to all mid-week night creatures Sat #UFchat has guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano + signed copy of AFTERLIFE to win during chat! |
| 5:39 am | Daylilie222: | RT @inkgypsy: Reminder to all mid-week night creatures Sat #UFchat has guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano + signed copy of AFTERLIFE to win during chat! |
| 5:50 am | J_GriffinB: | @gina_penn @saramcclung @cvaldezmiller @Karen_Hooper Don’t forget #UFchat this Saturday, 6PM EST. @inkgypsy is the hostess with the mostest |
| 5:51 am | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB Thanks! You rock. |
| 5:55 am | MerrieDestefano: | @inkgypsy Thanks for all the #UFchat promos! *hugs* |
| 6:11 am | inkgypsy: | @MerrieDestefano Just sent you Sats #UFchat schedule for you to look over. |
| 8:39 am | UF_Chat: | Transcript for Dec 4 #UFchat is up! http://bit.ly/hWBNjq Human Factor in UF Mcs ? from mundane to magical hybrid: how human are they really? |
| 8:39 am | inkgypsy: | Transcript for Dec 4 #UFchat is up! http://bit.ly/hWBNjq Human Factor in UF Mcs ? from mundane to magical hybrid: how human are they really? |
| 9:11 am | UF_Chat: | Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in AFTERLIFE-thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt. world where we ALL get 9 lives. #UFchat THIS Sat @3pmPST! |
| 9:11 am | inkgypsy: | Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in AFTERLIFE-thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt. world where we ALL get 9 lives. #UFchat THIS Sat @3pmPST! |
| 6:08 pm | shadowflame1974: | #UFchat tomorrow with special guest @MerrieDestefano! Stop by, ask a question and win a book! 5 p.m. CST. |
| 6:15 pm | MerrieDestefano: | RT @shadowflame1974: #UFchat tomorrow with special guest @MerrieDestefano! Stop by, ask a question and win a book! 5 p.m. CST. |
| 7:01 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Questions about AFTERLIFE? Join me and @InkGyspy on #UFchat on Saturday, 3 p.m. EST. |
| 8:17 pm | Book_Faery: | RT @MerrieDestefano: Questions about AFTERLIFE? Join me and @InkGyspy on #UFchat on Saturday, 3 p.m. EST. |
| 8:20 pm | inkgypsy: | RT @UF_Chat: Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in AFTERLIFE-thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt. world where we ALL get 9 lives. #UFchat THIS Sat @3pmPST! |
| 8:20 pm | Jinxie_G: | RT @UF_Chat: Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in AFTERLIFE-thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt. world where we ALL get 9 lives. #UFchat THIS Sat @3pmPST! |
| 8:28 pm | shadowflame1974: | RT @UF_Chat: Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in AFTERLIFE-thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt. world where we ALL get 9 lives. #UFchat THIS Sat @3pmPST! |
| 8:53 pm | AnassaRh: | #FF @inkgypsy because she’s supportive, insightful, and has a dog in surgery today. |
| 8:53 pm | tadbo: | RT @AnassaRh: #FF @inkgypsy because she’s supportive, insightful, and has a dog in surgery today. |
| 10:06 pm | Preternatural__: | I don’t generally, but she wrote a kick ass book, AFTERLIFE, & she’s cool to boot. Check her out on #UFChat this Sat. #FF @MerrieDestefano |
| 11:44 pm | JLCoburn: | @inkgypsy No #UFChat for me this week. Going to be out of town. |
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| 1:10 am | shadowflame1974: | our special guest this week ? UF author @MerrieDestefano who?s debut novel AFTERLIFE recently debuted. #UFchat Tomorrow at 5 pm CST |
| 5:00 pm | inkgypsy: | #UFchat‘s Dec rec. read: Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles by @MerrieDestefano http://bit.ly/hPzSlZ Join us in Q&A w her TODAY! 3pmPST |
| 5:00 pm | UF_Chat: | #UFchat‘s Dec rec. read: Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles by @MerrieDestefano http://bit.ly/hPzSlZ Join us in Q&A w her TODAY! 3pmPST |
| 5:00 pm | Daylilie222: | RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat‘s Dec rec. read: Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles by @MerrieDestefano http://bit.ly/hPzSlZ Join us in Q&A w her TODAY! 3pmPST |
| 5:18 pm | tadbo: | RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat‘s Dec rec. read: Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles by @MerrieDestefano http://bit.ly/hPzSlZ Join us in Q&A w her TODAY! 3pmPST |
| 6:01 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Death, life, the quest for immortality. Join me on #UFchat today at 3 p.m. @InkGypsy and I will discuss the themes of AFTERLIFE and more! |
| 6:02 pm | specficdb: | RT @MerrieDestefano: Death, life, the quest for immortality. Join me on #UFchat today at 3 p.m. @InkGypsy and I will discuss the themes of AFTERLIFE and more! |
| 6:30 pm | UF_Chat: | #UFchat has special guest Q&A today w @MerrieDestefano re debut novel AFTERLIFE, life & death in UF & signed copy to WIN during chat! 3pmPST |
| 6:30 pm | inkgypsy: | #UFchat has special guest Q&A today w @MerrieDestefano re debut novel AFTERLIFE, life & death in UF & signed copy to WIN during chat! 3pmPST |
| 6:30 pm | shadowflame1974: | RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat has special guest Q&A today w @MerrieDestefano re debut novel AFTERLIFE, life & death in UF & signed copy to WIN during chat! 3pmPST |
| 7:06 pm | MerrieDestefano: | RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat has special guest Q&A today w @MerrieDestefano re debut novel AFTERLIFE, life & death in UF & signed copy to WIN during chat! 3pmPST |
| 8:00 pm | UF_Chat: | 3 hours till #UFchat! Guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano re futuristic/UF debut AFTERLIFE – You can win signed copy in chat today! 3pm PST |
| 8:00 pm | inkgypsy: | 3 hours till #UFchat! Guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano re futuristic/UF debut AFTERLIFE – You can win signed copy in chat today! 3pm PST |
| 8:00 pm | Jinxie_G: | RT @UF_Chat: 3 hours till #UFchat! Guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano re futuristic/UF debut AFTERLIFE – You can win signed copy in chat today! 3pm PST |
| 9:00 pm | inkgypsy: | 2 hrs to #UFchat!What if we didn’t have to die but had 2nd chance? Chat life&death in UF + Q&A w @MerrieDestefano re AFTERLIFE & WIN! 3pmPST |
| 9:00 pm | UF_Chat: | 2 hrs to #UFchat!What if we didn’t have to die but had 2nd chance? Chat life&death in UF + Q&A w @MerrieDestefano re AFTERLIFE & WIN! 3pmPST |
| 10:00 pm | inkgypsy: | Jim Butcher meets Bladerunner in AFTERLIFE by today’s guest author @MerrieDestefano! Win signed copy during our Q&A. #UFChat 1 hour! 3pm PST |
| 10:00 pm | UF_Chat: | Jim Butcher meets Bladerunner in AFTERLIFE by today’s guest author @MerrieDestefano! Win signed copy during our Q&A. #UFChat 1 hour! 3pm PST |
| 10:03 pm | QQwill: | RT @inkgypsy: Jim Butcher meets Bladerunner in AFTERLIFE by today’s guest author @MerrieDestefano! Win signed copy during our Q&A. #UFChat 1 hour! 3pm PST |
| 10:24 pm | J_GriffinB: | Going to tickle my girl till she gives up, hopefully before the start of #UFchat . #ufchat |
| 10:25 pm | inkgypsy: | TOPIC: Life and death in UF + Q&A with Merrie Destefano re Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles #UFchat |
| 10:25 pm | UF_Chat: | TOPIC: Life and death in UF + Q&A with Merrie Destefano re Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles #UFchat |
| 10:25 pm | Book_Faery: | RT @inkgypsy: TOPIC: Life and death in UF + Q&A with Merrie Destefano re Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles #UFchat |
| 10:28 pm | shadowflame1974: | Count down to #UFchat 30 minutes. How death affects an MC. with special guest, @MerrieDestefano |
| 10:30 pm | UF_Chat: | 30 mins to #UFchat! TODAY ask special guest author @Merriedestefano a question & you’ll be entered to win a signed copy of AFTERLIFE! 3pmPST |
| 10:30 pm | inkgypsy: | 30 mins to #UFchat! TODAY ask special guest author @Merriedestefano a question & you’ll be entered to win a signed copy of AFTERLIFE! 3pmPST |
| 10:44 pm | shadowflame1974: | 15 minutes to #UFchat. What happens after death? with guest @MerrieDestefano! Ask a question and be entered to win a book. |
| 10:45 pm | UF_Chat: | 15 mins to #UFchat! Life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF + special Q&A w author @MerrieDestefano. Ask her a question during chat & U could win bk!! |
| 10:45 pm | inkgypsy: | 15 mins to #UFchat! Life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF + special Q&A w author @MerrieDestefano. Ask her a question during chat & U could win bk!! |
| 10:46 pm | SpiceBites: | RT @inkgypsy: 15 mins to #UFchat! Life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF + special Q&A w author @MerrieDestefano. Ask her a question during chat & U could win bk!! |
| 10:46 pm | SpiceBites: | @inkgypsy Lookinf forward to #UFchat! |
| 10:50 pm | inkgypsy: | Primer for #UFchat early birds: The Body?Whedon?s most powerful death portrayal was natural one (Buffy’s mom) http://bit.ly/fNtiyV #UFchat |
| 10:50 pm | UF_Chat: | Primer for #UFchat early birds: The Body?Whedon?s most powerful death portrayal was natural one (Buffy’s mom) http://bit.ly/fNtiyV #UFchat |
| 10:51 pm | inkgypsy: | Primer #2 for #UFchat early birds: AFTERLIFE: The Resurrection Chronicles (blurb & reviews) http://bit.ly/eK8FBe #UFchat |
| 10:51 pm | UF_Chat: | Primer #2 for #UFchat early birds: AFTERLIFE: The Resurrection Chronicles (blurb & reviews) http://bit.ly/eK8FBe #UFchat |
| 10:55 pm | inkgypsy: | Pulling on my #UFchat stomping boots, changing to mod hat & handing pair to kickass author @MerrieDestefano for our special Q&A w her today! |
| 10:55 pm | inkgypsy: | @SpiceBites Yay! And today you might win something too.. |
| 10:57 pm | UF_Chat: | Urban fantasy people! We have a guest author’s brain to nibble on today! Plus you can win signed copy of AFTERLIFE #UFchat in 4 minutes! |
| 10:57 pm | inkgypsy: | Urban fantasy people! We have a guest author’s brain to nibble on today! Plus you can win signed copy of AFTERLIFE #UFchat in 4 minutes! |
| 10:59 pm | J_GriffinB: | Slides in… #ufchat |
| 10:59 pm | UF_Chat: | @J_GriffinB Hello! Got questions I hope. |
| 11:00 pm | UF_Chat: | 3, 2… & now live with #UFchat! Life, death, resurrection, do-overs ? death is key force in UF but how is it really handled? #ufchat |
| 11:00 pm | soniawrite: | hi ufchat #UFchat |
| 11:00 pm | UF_Chat: | TODAY: Life goes on in UF ? usually well after death. What does it do to life and death values if you get 2nd (& more) chances? #ufchat |
| 11:00 pm | Preternatural__: | Cheers all! #UFchat |
| 11:00 pm | UF_Chat: | Reminder: ?S? stands for statement, which will be followed by a ?Q? (a related #UFchat question for discussion). #ufchat |
| 11:00 pm | saramcclung: | hi |
| 11:00 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @inkgypsy Can I use #UFchat for a hashtag? |
| 11:00 pm | UF_Chat: | @soniawrite Hi! Good to see you! |
| 11:01 pm | UF_Chat: | Q1: People die and return to life all the time in UF ? what are the various ways people can ?come back?? #ufchat |
| 11:01 pm | J_GriffinB: | @saramcclung Hey! #ufchat |
| 11:01 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano Please do |
| 11:01 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano That’s excactly the right one. |
| 11:01 pm | shadowflame1974: | @MerrieDestefano sure can hon! welcome everyone #ufchat |
| 11:01 pm | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano Easier to go to: http://tweetchat.com/room/ufchat #ufchat |
| 11:01 pm | inkgypsy: | @MerrieDestefano I replied as mod – yes – perfect! #UFchat |
| 11:02 pm | soniawrite: | @UF_Chat ghosts, vampires, zombies are all ways to die and come back #UFchat |
| 11:02 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat stinking dead, sparkly dead, mostly dead, misty dead… I’m sure I’m missing some deads here. #ufchat |
| 11:02 pm | UF_Chat: | Hello all! Guest author today – let’s warm up the topic a bit first to get us settled in – life & death. 1st question is up! #ufchat |
| 11:02 pm | soniawrite: | @J_GriffinB sparkly dead? twilight vamps? #UFchat |
| 11:02 pm | UF_Chat: | Q1a: How much of themselves/their humanness do they retain? #ufchat |
| 11:02 pm | shadowflame1974: | @J_GriffinB lol in other words zombies, vampires, did you mention ghosts? #ufchat |
| 11:03 pm | soniawrite: | @MerrieDestefano hello! your book is on my tbr. haven’t gotten to it yet though #UFchat |
| 11:03 pm | J_GriffinB: | @soniawrite Couldn’t resist the jab. Oh. Horny dead. And the re-possessed. #ufchat |
| 11:03 pm | J_GriffinB: | @shadowflame1974 Misty, darling. Misty. #ufchat |
| 11:03 pm | ladytechie: | Hmm, shade? #ufchat |
| 11:03 pm | shadowflame1974: | @J_GriffinB aaahhhh I see #ufchat |
| 11:03 pm | soniawrite: | @UF_Chat q1a. sometimes a lot, sometimes none. but the change somehow, usually become harder #UFchat |
| 11:03 pm | inkgypsy: | @Jess_Haines Hey! Guest author today – you want to pick her brain too? It’s tasty.. |
| 11:04 pm | UF_Chat: | Q2: Death is usually violent and painful in UF ? can you think of any UF in which natural death occurs? #ufchat |
| 11:04 pm | ladytechie: | Yes until they start chomping on people. Then not so much. #ufchat |
| 11:05 pm | soniawrite: | @UF_Chat accidental death? death by old age? um . . .no. #UFchat |
| 11:05 pm | shadowflame1974: | Q1a sometimes not much at all. depends on what they come back as… #ufchat |
| 11:05 pm | UF_Chat: | S: Joss Whedon got many kudos for his Buffy episode The Body in which Buffy?s mother dies a natural death she can?t fight. #ufchat |
| 11:05 pm | Preternatural__: | S2 Ummm…honestly, no. #UFchat |
| 11:05 pm | UF_Chat: | Q2a: Why was The Body episode on Buffy series so powerful? #ufchat |
| 11:05 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat A2: Not that takes place in the present narrative. Usually it’s the parental unit that died, leaving some trace… #ufchat |
| 11:05 pm | soniawrite: | is suicide natural? #UFchat |
| 11:06 pm | soniawrite: | @UF_Chat I don’t think I saw that episode. #UFchat |
| 11:06 pm | ladytechie: | A2: Because Buffy can fight anything but that. #ufchat |
| 11:06 pm | Preternatural__: | @soniawrite Really? When Buffy’s mom dies? #UFchat |
| 11:06 pm | J_GriffinB: | @soniawrite Not according to insurance and legal definitions, no. #ufchat |
| 11:06 pm | UF_Chat: | Q3: Why is there such (unconscious) resistance to portraying natural death in UF? Especially when it?s such a prevalent device? #ufchat |
| 11:07 pm | soniawrite: | anita blake’s mother died in an accident, didn’t she? that was accidental and it had a pretty strong impact on her. #UFchat |
| 11:07 pm | UF_Chat: | @soniawrite It’s considered his best ever by many – some controversy over why wasn’t put up for Emmy. #ufchat |
| 11:07 pm | soniawrite: | @J_GriffinB just checking. thanks #UFchat |
| 11:07 pm | ladytechie: | @soniawrite It was extremely moving and sad. #ufchat |
| 11:08 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat A3: Too prosaic, I should think. Readers and writers want to get the hell away from the halitosis & pimples of daily life #ufchat |
| 11:08 pm | UF_Chat: | Q4: Other than as a vampire what other instances of resurrection (or similar – ie. actually dying & coming back) are in UF? #ufchat |
| 11:08 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano No, worries. Just use your hashtag, yeah? #UFchat |
| 11:08 pm | soniawrite: | @Preternatural__ yeah, really. i really don’t remember that. been watching it on netflix but I am only up season 2 #UFchat |
| 11:09 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat A4: Ghost springs to mind. #ufchat |
| 11:09 pm | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB I was watching for it! lol I think you’re 6 for 6 since you started now – or more! #UFchat |
| 11:09 pm | soniawrite: | @UF_Chat I don’t remember this controversy. oh well #UFchat |
| 11:09 pm | Preternatural__: | @soniawrite Ummm..Season 6? I wanna say…the one with Glory. #UFchat |
| 11:09 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat I still want to throw a pot with Demi. #ufchat |
| 11:10 pm | UF_Chat: | Q4a: What were consequences, if any, of these characters coming back from the dead (eg special powers)? #ufchat |
| 11:10 pm | thedragongem: | Q4: Ghosts. In the Women of the Otherworld series #UFchat |
| 11:10 pm | J_GriffinB: | @inkgypsy It is a maxim I want writers to accept, therefore I preach the word! #ufchat |
| 11:10 pm | soniawrite: | @Preternatural__ ohh. i don’t think i was watching buffy than #UFchat |
| 11:10 pm | shadowflame1974: | Q2 Two come to mind CEMurphy’s Urban Shaman. Mother dies Lackey’s Dianne’s best friend Lennie dies of AIDS #ufchat |
| 11:10 pm | Preternatural__: | @thedragongem Good point. or in the case of Eve, something else #UFchat |
| 11:11 pm | UF_Chat: | S: Our special guest today @MerrieDestefano has recently debuted with her novel AFTERLIFE ? set in alt-semi-future-world? #ufchat |
| 11:11 pm | UF_Chat: | S cont: … in which now possible to ?download? to new body when die so are essentially resurrected & get a 2nd life (up to 9 times) #ufchat |
| 11:12 pm | soniawrite: | a4 ghosts are all i can think of #UFchat |
| 11:12 pm | UF_Chat: | Q5: What might the repercussions be on the psyche of a character of coming back from natural death as opposed to a violent one? #ufchat |
| 11:12 pm | ladytechie: | 4a: Families are affected. Some accepting, some not so much. #UFChat |
| 11:12 pm | soniawrite: | @UF_Chat depends on what they came back as. as vamps, well, blood and all that. ghosts – it depends on the writer does ghosts #UFchat |
| 11:13 pm | UF_Chat: | Q6: Natural death (& coming back from it) has possibility of making character feel more helpless than ?surviving? violent one. Why? #ufchat |
| 11:13 pm | thedragongem: | The Crow was a Revenant #UFchat |
| 11:13 pm | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB I think it’s am excellent cause. |
| 11:14 pm | shadowflame1974: | Violent death would have PTSD attached Natural: having unfinished business left to attend to. Maybe overly enthusiastic over things #ufchat |
| 11:14 pm | UF_Chat: | S: Interesting 2 note many legendary monsters that traditionally threatened life are transformed in UF to become ?alt-life? options! #ufchat |
| 11:14 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano Does nine play out further into the series as the ‘special number?’ #UFchat |
| 11:14 pm | UF_Chat: | S cont: Eg vampire ? life after death, zombies ? life tho traditionally ?dead? etc #ufchat |
| 11:14 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat I think that might depend on the nature of the natural death, & whether the ‘copies’ have the same flaw that led to demise. #ufchat |
| 11:14 pm | UF_Chat: | Q7: Why do you think this is especially prevalent in the UF genre? #ufchat |
| 11:14 pm | soniawrite: | q6: a violent is more likely to affect the psyche too I think #UFchat |
| 11:15 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @CarolynCrane No other number seemed to work for me, plus I wanted at least 500 years of life. #ufchat |
| 11:15 pm | soniawrite: | the dead people who come back to life in the highlander? #UFchat |
| 11:15 pm | UF_Chat: | @Preternatural__ Not sure if she’s grabbing last minute coffee – ask again if she doesn’t reply. Good question. #ufchat |
| 11:15 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @Preternatural__ Oh, hello! No special significance in number other than it gave me the lifespan (500 years) that I wanted. #ufchat |
| 11:15 pm | SpiceBites: | Q7: Would Zombies count? #UFChat |
| 11:16 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Sorry, have I missed some questions? =( #ufchat #amslowtypist |
| 11:16 pm | CarolynCrane: | @MerrieDestefano It does seem natural. If you didn’t do 9, ppl would prolly be like, why not 9? #ufchat |
| 11:16 pm | UF_Chat: | Reminder to #UFchat watchers – please use hashtag so we & Merrie can see your comment/question (& you can be entered to win too.) |
| 11:16 pm | UF_Chat: | Q8: What UF characters not already turned or ?returned? might consider a resurrection? Why? #ufchat |
| 11:16 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano Did the blend on SF/UF come from what you read or you just dig both genres? #UFchat |
| 11:17 pm | sandrawickham: | @UF_Chat Just tuning in..and reading through the thread to try and catch up-hi everyone!! #UFchat |
| 11:17 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @CarolynCrane yeah, I didn’t want double digits. Didn’t want 3 or 7, 9 just worked for me. #ufchat |
| 11:17 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Nope – no misses as Mr. P is asking again. We’re almost up to intro-ing you. |
| 11:17 pm | UF_Chat: | S: In AFTERLIFE people who download selves to new body & life get a ?babysitter? for the 1st week to help them adjust. #ufchat |
| 11:17 pm | ladytechie: | Afterlife was amazingly original, well-written and thought-provoking. I loved it! #UFChat |
| 11:17 pm | UF_Chat: | Q9: How would you imagine your first week would be in a new body after dying & leaving old life behind? Perks? Cons? #ufchat |
| 11:18 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Did we skip Q7b? #ufchat #lost |
| 11:18 pm | SpiceBites: | Q8: Mummies might want to resurrection for revenge #UFChat |
| 11:18 pm | soniawrite: | @UF_Chat mostly cons, I should think #UFchat |
| 11:18 pm | UF_Chat: | @ladytechie I thought it was a wonderful addition to genre too – diff approach but still strong UF feel! Loved it. #ufchat |
| 11:18 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q9: Very few perks except extended life. First week is disorienting & you struggle with all your memories coming back at once. [1/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:18 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q9: At the same time, you can?t remember important things, like looking both ways before crossing a street. [2/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:18 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q9: On the other hand, you are stunningly beautiful in first week. Again, not necessarily good, because of kidnappings. [3/3] #UFchat |
| 11:19 pm | CarolynCrane: | @SpiceBites LOL Has anybody done a mummy UF? #UFChat |
| 11:19 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Heh heh – not yet. Still in 1st 10 questions. Not in the Merrie questions yet – almost – 1 to go. |
| 11:19 pm | shadowflame1974: | Q9 distorted. getting used to new body how it moves compared to the old one. #ufchat |
| 11:19 pm | UF_Chat: | Q10: Life goes on in UF ? usually well after death. What does it do to life and death values if you get 2nd (& more) chances? #ufchat |
| 11:19 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q8: Almost anyone might decide to resurrect, although you can?t if you?ve committed a capital crime or any sort of terrorism. [1/4] #Ufchat |
| 11:19 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q8: The twist is that not everyone wants to resurrect. Groups of people, called One-Timers choose death over life; [2/4] #Ufchat |
| 11:19 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q8: They hold pro-death ralleys and fight for the right to choose death. Nine-Timers, on the other hand, fight for more life. [3/4] #Ufchat |
| 11:19 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q8: There are even suicide cults, people who have become addicted to the resurrection process. [4/4] #UFchat |
| 11:19 pm | Jinxie_G: | Ah crap. See? Now I really do have another book to add to my TBR pile! Told you @MerrieDestefano. *runs away from #UFchat* |
| 11:20 pm | SpiceBites: | @CarolynCrane There so should be one –mummy UF that is ;P #UFChat |
| 11:20 pm | UF_Chat: | It?s now time to introduce our special guest this week ? UF author @MerrieDestefano who?s debut novel AFTERLIFE recently debuted. #ufchat |
| 11:20 pm | UF_Chat: | AFTERLIFE= Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher. Thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt New Orleans where life after death is big business. #ufchat |
| 11:20 pm | Jinxie_G: | RT @UF_Chat: It?s now time to introduce our special guest this week ? UF author @MerrieDestefano who?s debut novel AFTERLIFE recently debuted. #ufchat |
| 11:20 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @Preternatural__ I don’t read much UF, more SF and other genres. #ufchat |
| 11:20 pm | Book_Faery: | Ahh it’s so fun hearing @MerrieDestefano discuss AFTERLIFE. Loved reading that book! #UFchat |
| 11:20 pm | J_GriffinB: | RT @MerrieDesteffano Anyone might decide to resurrect, although you can?t if you?ve committed a capital crime or terrorism. #ufchat |
| 11:20 pm | soniawrite: | @MerrieDestefano suicide cults? really? wow sounds they glamorize death #UFchat |
| 11:20 pm | UF_Chat: | Welcome @MerrieDestefano! Thank you for joining us today & for enabling the giveaway too (signed copy of her book!). #ufchat |
| 11:21 pm | CarolynCrane: | @UF_Chat @MerrieDestefano Wow, that sounds really interesting an cool. And, they don’t look like themselves? #ufchat |
| 11:21 pm | UF_Chat: | I?ll ask Q’s until 3:45-ish & then will open floor for all other Q’s. If have on-topic Q during Q&A pls address Merrie & use hashtag #ufchat |
| 11:21 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Hi, everyone! #ufchat |
| 11:21 pm | UF_Chat: | ? otherwise please hold Q?s till floor is opened. Remember ALL questions to Merrie will be entered into signed book giveaway today! #ufchat |
| 11:21 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano Nice. I’ll bring up SF influences when not here *grin* #UFchat |
| 11:21 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Congratulations on your debut novel and the positive response! #ufchat |
| 11:21 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @UF_Chat Thanks for inviting me! Sorry for answering all the wrong questions. DUh. #ufchat |
| 11:21 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q1: When did you first have the idea for AFTERLIFE? #ufchat |
| 11:21 pm | ASolitaryScribe: | @MerrieDestefano this sounds awesome. They come back as adults? #ufchat |
| 11:22 pm | CarolynCrane: | @SpiceBites *thinking about mummies now* #UFChat |
| 11:22 pm | UF_Chat: | @Preternatural__ No – no – ask here too! Curious. |
| 11:22 pm | soniawrite: | @MerrieDestefano hi! #UFchat |
| 11:22 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @ASolitaryScribe Yes, always adults. =) #ufchat |
| 11:22 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q1: About 2-3 years ago. Grew from a science article I read about how lengthening telomeres in DNA could give us immortality. #UFchat |
| 11:22 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Actually they worked well. |
| 11:22 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q1a: Per the description ? how would you say AFTERLIFE like Jim Butcher? How about Bladerunner? #ufchat |
| 11:23 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q1a: Unfortunately, haven?t read Jim Butcher?s books, so can?t comment. However, I love Philip K. Dick and social sci fi… [1/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:23 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano OK, since I read a lot of SF as well, what do you like/who influenced you? #UFchat |
| 11:23 pm | CarolynCrane: | @UF_Chat OMG! I’m sorry. I just blunder in with questions! #ufchat |
| 11:23 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q1: writers influence other writers. Bladerunner is a dark world where clones struggle for their right 2 live (in the movie) [3/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:23 pm | SpiceBites: | @MerrieDestefano So glad u r here, I checked out Afterlife on Amazon & love the way the first bit reads @UF_Chat #UFChat |
| 11:23 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q1: In AFTERLIFE, people struggle for the right to die or the right to live forever. [3/3] #UFchat |
| 11:23 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @SpiceBites Thanks! =) #ufchat |
| 11:24 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Still hoping I am doing this right. #ufchat |
| 11:24 pm | UF_Chat: | @CarolynCrane S’ok – hard to tame the rabble. |
| 11:24 pm | UF_Chat: | S: AFTERLIFE is not your usual UF ? eg. futuristic/UF mix, strong tech presence, w multi 1st person POVs. #ufchat |
| 11:24 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @CarolynCrane LOL. And I blundered in answering the wrong questions! #ufchat |
| 11:24 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q2: While definitely works, why decide to focus on UF market instead of eg sci-fi? What is appeal to UF readers? #ufchat |
| 11:24 pm | sandrawickham: | Right now @MerrieDestefano is the guest over at #UFchat if you want to join in. Her book AFTERLIFE sounds excellent! |
| 11:24 pm | ladytechie: | @MerrieDestefano Afterlife was totally amazing and actually was what drove me to write one of my first reviews on Goodreads. #UFChat |
| 11:25 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Somebody poke me with a long stick when it’s time for me to answer another question. #ufchat |
| 11:25 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q2: My editor saw a lot of UF elements in AFTERLIFE, & we worked 2 make those stronger: dark, noir world, strong female… [1/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:25 pm | UF_Chat: | @sandrawickham It really is. Gorgeous writing on top of great story! #ufchat |
| 11:25 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q2: character, first person POV, end of world scenario, life-after-death themes. [2/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:25 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q2: Sometimes thinking outside of the box can make a book stronger. So far, have had great response from UF readers. [3/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:25 pm | UF_Chat: | S: Merrie also co-wrote the text for the Walter Foster book How to Draw Zombies ? clearly she?s no stranger to the undead! #ufchat |
| 11:25 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q3: In what way are the new bodies of people resurrected in AFTERLIFE similar to other undead – if at all? #ufchat |
| 11:25 pm | MerrieDestefano: | My editor is made out of pure gold, BTW. #ufchat |
| 11:26 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @ladytechie Awww! So sweet. Thank you! #ufchat |
| 11:26 pm | SpiceBites: | @MerrieDestefano Since Afterlife sounds quite different than most, was it harder to sell? #UFChat |
| 11:26 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Nice! (editor kudos – always great to hear. |
| 11:26 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q3: Not similar to zombies at all; maybe slightly similar to vampires in that insatiable quest for life. #UFchat |
| 11:26 pm | CarolynCrane: | It is interesting topic, death, and how the post-dead of all kinds have both advantages and liabilities #ufchat |
| 11:27 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Must pay attention. Almost missed my question. #imanerd #ufchat |
| 11:27 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @SpiceBites Do you mean to a publisher or a reader? #ufchat |
| 11:27 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano Did you have D Gill edit AFTERLIFE? #UFchat |
| 11:27 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q3a: Did working on How to Draw Zombies & Afterlife ever overlap ? did one ever affect the other? #ufchat |
| 11:28 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q3a: AFTERLIFE was finished when I did the How to Draw Zombies book, so zombies did not affect the novel. [1/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:28 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q4: What sort of research did you do for AFTERLIFE? #ufchat |
| 11:28 pm | SpiceBites: | @MerrieDestefano To a publisher…. #UFChat |
| 11:28 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q3a: However, working on the zombie book got me over my creep factor. I really didn?t like zombies co-wrote the zombie book. [2/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:28 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano She is all sorts of awesome when you look at the titles she edits =) #UFchat |
| 11:28 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q3a. Now I think I would like add a zombie or two to some future novel. Not AFTERLIFE, though. [3/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:29 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @SpiceBites I think the important thing is to find agent/editor/publisher who share your vision. #ufchat |
| 11:30 pm | CarolynCrane: | aQ7 In a way, UF tames monsters for people in a “scary” era, but it also apparently tames death, too. In so many books. #ufchat |
| 11:30 pm | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano And what publisher are you with? #ufchat |
| 11:30 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano I’ll try to wait for your multi answers (thanks for putting the 3/3 indicators!) #UFchat |
| 11:30 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q4: Researched New Orleans, the history, the culture, the food, the music, the French Quarter, the bayou, the plants.#UFchat |
| 11:30 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q4: Also, researched French terms. #ufchat |
| 11:30 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q5: What was it that got you interested in the concept of resurrection technology, if anything? #ufchat |
| 11:31 pm | SpiceBites: | @MerrieDestefano LOL! Those must have been some fun research trips, esp. the food & music one ;P #UFChat |
| 11:32 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano: Seems lots room to explore stories of ?second chances? in world of AFTERLIFE ? what they would do & why. (cont) #ufchat |
| 11:32 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q6: Any chance we?ll see some of those ?second chance? stories? #ufchat |
| 11:33 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q6: By second chance stories, do you mean sequels? If so, yes. There?s lots of room for sequel stories in this world. [1/3]#Ufchat |
| 11:33 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q6: I?m finishing a project right now. As soon as it?s done (mid-January), I plan to start an AFTERLIFE sequel. [2/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:33 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q6: So many people who have read AFTERLIFE have already asked me for a sequel, which is really cool! [2/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:33 pm | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano RT @J_GriffinB Publisher is Eos/HarperCollins. Will change names soon to Voyager/HarperCollins. #ufchat |
| 11:33 pm | UF_Chat: | Amazing detail w/out actually being there! Kudos! #UFchat RT @MerrieDestefano: @SpiceBites I wish I could have taken a trip to NOLA. =( |
| 11:33 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q7: New Orleans is wonderfully fleshed out – like character in book. What made you choose the city to set story in? #ufchat |
| 11:34 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q7: Oh, so many reasons! Loved the City of the Dead cemeteries, loved the culture, loved that it is the birthplace of jazz. [1/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:34 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q7: Plus I have a great respect for the people of the city [NOLA] and what they have gone through with Katrina. I wanted to.. [2/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:34 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q7: increase public awareness of the city and the people. [3/3] #UFchat |
| 11:35 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q7a: You live in Southern CA. How did you go about researching New Orleans in such vivid detail? #ufchat |
| 11:35 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q7a: I read everything I could find, from blog posts to books to magazines. Anything that would tell me about the city. [1/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:35 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q7a: Plus a year earlier, I ran a special issue of Victorian Homes mag that featured NOLA. [I was the editor then] [2/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:36 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q7a: So I already had a LOT of facts in my head by the time I wrote the book. [3/3]#Ufchat |
| 11:36 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Ooh nice insider look! (Magazine article editor) #ufchat |
| 11:36 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q7b: Can you pls describe the New Orleans of AFTERLIFE? The social structure/layers/levels? #ufchat |
| 11:37 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q7b: AFTERLIFE is set in near future New Orleans, in a time when people can resurrect instead of die, through a [1/4] #Ufchat |
| 11:37 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q7b: company called Fresh Start. It’s a dark world and society has basically been turned inside out. Very few children born [2/4] #Ufchat |
| 11:37 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q7b: families almost non-existent. People now “invent” their own families by meeting people in virtual reality chat bars. [3/4] #Ufchat |
| 11:37 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q7b: Virtual reality can take you anywhere in the world; But even with 9 potential lives, people still crave immortality. [4/4] #Ufchat |
| 11:38 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @UF_Chat Thanks! =) #ufchat |
| 11:38 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerriDestefano Q8: With resurrection tech avail. there is group of people: “One Timers”. Can you explain their POV of life/death? #ufchat |
| 11:39 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q8: One-Timers are a group of people who choose not to resurrect, either for religious or moral or personal reasons. [1/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:39 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q8: The family that owns the resurrection technology happened to be One-Timers, so they were conflicted. [2/3] #Ufchat |
| 11:39 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q8: I really enjoy working with characters that are conflicted. =) [3/3] #UFchat |
| 11:39 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q9: Is a pro-death priest in AFTERLIFE – sounds contrary to our understanding of priests. Can you explain his POV? #ufchat |
| 11:40 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q9: Yes, a lot of religious people in AFTERLIFE are pro-death. It?s similar to how people now are pro-life. [1/2] #Ufchat |
| 11:40 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q9: I don?t think that character had a POV. But he believed in giving people the right to choose death over resurrection. [2/2] #UFchat |
| 11:41 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Priest had Chapter opening quote if memory serves. #UFchat |
| 11:41 pm | UF_Chat: | S: Some UF has long-lived vamps changing name, starting new life in new place after while to stay hidden, like resurrected in bk. #ufchat |
| 11:41 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @UF_Chat Yeah, that’s the priest. =) #ufchat |
| 11:41 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q10: Did you have vampires in mind at all when writing the ?life jumps?? #ufchat |
| 11:42 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q10: No, not vampires. I think our quest for immortality goes beyond vampires. In other words, [1/2] #Ufchat |
| 11:42 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q10: I believe mankind has craved immortality long before vampires came into the picture. [2/2] #UFchat |
| 11:42 pm | UF_Chat: | S: One of MCs in AFTERLIFE is Chaz Dominguez who is a ?Babysitter? ? a feared/respected job/position. #ufchat |
| 11:42 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q11: What is a ?babysitter? and how did you come up with the concept? #ufchat |
| 11:43 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q11: Babysitters watch over you when you resurrect. They have more power than the local or international police #Ufchat |
| 11:43 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q11: As I worked on the story, in my mind, I realized that Newbies would be too vulnerable on their own. #Ufchat |
| 11:43 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q11: So I created Babysitters and made the main character one. #Ufchat |
| 11:43 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q11: So the book has one POV of a Newbie and one of a Babysitter. #UFchat |
| 11:43 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q11a: I imagine training for a Babysitter would be tough! Are there other babysitters in world? How do they train? #ufchat |
| 11:44 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q11a: Absolutely! Lots of Babysitters. Training would be like training for a Navy SEAL. #UFchat |
| 11:44 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q12: How is death treated differently by world of AFTERLIFE compared to a) us b) other UF series/characters? #ufchat |
| 11:44 pm | MerrieDestefano: | I feel like I’m “over-talking” everyone. Pure silence. #ufchat |
| 11:45 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q12: Not sure about other UF series. But in AFTERLIFE, death is like the unspoken fear. Everyone tries to forget it exists. #UFchat |
| 11:45 pm | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano Mummification processes of the Egyptians comes to mind; including servants, pets, food in afterlife a good example. #ufchat |
| 11:45 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano I think they’re watching, fascinated & waiting for open question time. |
| 11:45 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano *listening/reading chat* I’ll ask at the general *L* #UFchat |
| 11:45 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q13: Why did you decide 9 times would be the maximum times resurrection technology would work? (eg Symbolic etc) #ufchat |
| 11:45 pm | soniawrite: | no, i am just listioning. reading, that is #UFchat |
| 11:45 pm | SpiceBites: | @MerrieDestefano reading in rapt attention |
| 11:45 pm | Jess_Haines: | @MerrieDestefano I’ll be over soon, just wrapping Xmas shopping and stuff. ARGH. Want. To. CHAT. #ufchat |
| 11:46 pm | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano and moderator asked us to shut it till 1/4 till. #ufchat |
| 11:46 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @Jess_Haines Want you to chat! #ufchat |
| 11:46 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @J_GriffinB Oh, yeah. =) #ufchat |
| 11:46 pm | Jess_Haines: | @MerrieDestefano OK, let me jump in the shower and get dressed, will be over to chat in like 15-20 mins #ufchat |
| 11:46 pm | inkgypsy: | @Jess_Haines We’re here – open questions soon -thought you might like to see an author Q&A. |
| 11:47 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q13: No other number seemed right to me. Didn?t like Three-Timers or Six-Timers. Plus I really wanted to create a world where [1/2] #UFchat |
| 11:47 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q13: people could live to be 500 years old. I felt like that was long enough to create an entirely different world. [2/2] #UFchat |
| 11:47 pm | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB Nice. |
| 11:47 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q13a: What are restrictions of resurrection in AFTERLIFE? Can you ‘upgrade’ to better looks, better athlete etc? #ufchat |
| 11:47 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Almost missed my question! Argh. #ufchat |
| 11:47 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q13a: you can upgrade to almost anything. #ufchat |
| 11:48 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q14: The dog Omega is very important character. Considering 9 lives etc why write a dog & not a cat? #ufchat |
| 11:48 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @UF_Chat Q13a: but you can only keep 50 % of your memories. #ufchat |
| 11:48 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q14: I wanted the dog to be able to interact more with people, to save lives if necessary. A cat wouldn?t have been able to do that. #Ufchat |
| 11:48 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat I want upgrades: No dyslexia, better joints, thank you. #ufchat |
| 11:48 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Q15: What do you think is handled well regarding life vs death in UF genre? What aspects are unexplored/avoided? #ufchat |
| 11:49 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @UF_Chat Tough question. I think UF handles the supernatural elements very well. #ufchat |
| 11:50 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano LAST Q b4 floor open: If you ?yourself, in this reality- had the option to be resurrected, would you? Why/why not? #ufchat |
| 11:50 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @UF_Chat Q15: But rarely ever deal with the science. #ufchat |
| 11:50 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @UF_Chat Q15: I also think theology not covered that much. But maybe I haven’t read enough UF. #ufchat |
| 11:51 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Q16: No, I?m a One-Timer. Like my main character, Chaz. One life and then I?m done. I believe in heaven and want to go there. =) #UFchat |
| 11:51 pm | UF_Chat: | NOW OPENING FLOOR FOR Q?s. Remember each person asking gets entered into giveaway today! Pls @MerrieDestefano & add #UFchat hashtag. #ufchat |
| 11:51 pm | MerrieDestefano: | I think I survived. #ufchat |
| 11:51 pm | ladytechie: | @MerrieDestefano Relationships are key in this book. What drove your depiction of the relationship between the brothers/father? #UFChat |
| 11:52 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano Sounds like the usual suspect, but who influenced you in SF? #UFchat |
| 11:52 pm | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Now you get lots of questions from all over… |
| 11:52 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Whoa, I feel like I was juggling eels there. #ufchat |
| 11:52 pm | ASolitaryScribe: | @MerrieDestefano i’m so intrigued. What sorts of new religions has this science created? #ufchat |
| 11:53 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @ladytechie I love relationships. To me, Chaz and Russ approached their struggles so differently. Both loved their father. #ufchat |
| 11:53 pm | shadowflame1974: | @MerrieDestefano lol no now comes the eel juggling |
| 11:53 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @ladytechie but one fell apart (Russ) when difficulties came along, one grew stronger (Chaz) #ufchat |
| 11:53 pm | soniawrite: | okay this may seem like a silly question, but who are your fav authors? also, did you read any books on writing? #UFchat |
| 11:54 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Strong, 3-dimensional characters are crucial for a good plot, to me. #ufchat |
| 11:54 pm | J_GriffinB: | @marieDestefano: Why only 50% of memories? #ufchat |
| 11:54 pm | inkgypsy: | @soniawrite You might need to address Merrie directly for her to see your question. |
| 11:54 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @Preternatural__ Loved Philip K. Dick, Ray Bradbury, Robert Heinlein, Michael Crichton. #ufchat |
| 11:55 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @shadowflame1974 EEEEEEELLLSSS! #ufchat |
| 11:55 pm | soniawrite: | @MerrieDestefano okay this may seem like a silly question, but who are your fav authors? also, did you read any books on writing? #UFchat |
| 11:55 pm | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano Damn straight! #ufchat |
| 11:56 pm | soniawrite: | @inkgypsy thanks! #UFchat |
| 11:56 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @soniawrite Loved James Scott Bell’s writing books, BIRD BY BIRD, WRITING DOWN THE BONES. #ufchat |
| 11:56 pm | SpiceBites: | @MerrieDestefano Can a resurrected return to a love from a former life/reincarnation? #UFChat |
| 11:56 pm | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB I just saw your pot comment.. ROFL! #UFchat |
| 11:57 pm | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano Do you intend to attend any writing cons in the next year? World Fantasy, World Science Fiction Convention #ufchat |
| 11:57 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @J_GriffinB To be mean. =) Seriously, life needs challenge. And when you break the rules, you must pay a price. #ufchat |
| 11:57 pm | shadowflame1974: | @MerrieDestefano When and why did you begin to write fiction after being involved with several magazines? #ufchat |
| 11:57 pm | MerrieDestefano: | BTW, I will answer all questions, even if it takes me awhile. =) #ufchat |
| 11:57 pm | magelly: | @MerrieDestefano Twitter chat can be very frantic. Keeping up with all that stuff. #ufchat |
| 11:58 pm | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano Yeah, if you’re in SoCal, you could do ComicCon =) #UFchat |
| 11:58 pm | soniawrite: | @MerrieDestefano thabnks! spicebites is a good queston – how does family come into all this? #UFchat |
| 11:58 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @SpiceBites Do you mean could you return to live with your old boyfriend? Sure, if he wants you. Some thorns in this rose. #ufchat |
| 11:58 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @inkgypsy Think I missed the pot comment. Must find! #ufchat |
| 11:59 pm | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano So it’s purely a Mcguffin, placed there to challenge the characters? #ufchat |
| 11:59 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @shadowflame1974 I always wanted to write fiction and have done so for a long time. The mag editor position was to pay the bills. #ufchat |
| 11:59 pm | SpiceBites: | @MerrieDestefano I can see complications for a future book, unrequited love, the ex who refuses to die…. #UFChat |
| 11:59 pm | MerrieDestefano: | @J_GriffinB Yes! I’m going to World Fantasy Con in SD, Comic Con in SD, ConDor in SD, maybe RT in LA. #ufchat |
| December 12, 2010 | ||
| MerrieDestefano: | @Preternatural__ totally. I went last year. it was SO much fun. #ufchat | |
| J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano See you at WFC, then. Renovation? #ufchat | |
| 12:01 am | MerrieDestefano: | @J_GriffinB A McGuffin? I don’t understand. I’m very dense. #ufchat |
| 12:01 am | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano SDCC is Always a blast! Lemme know what booth you’re at pls. #UFchat |
| 12:01 am | MerrieDestefano: | @SpiceBites Yes, plus your time lines might not match up unless you died at same time. #ufchat |
| 12:02 am | UF_Chat: | Last call for questions for @MerrieDestefano today (& entry into our signed book giveaway) – Ask Merrie now! #ufchat |
| 12:02 am | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano A plot mechanism to challenge the characters/aid the writer in storytelling. #ufchat |
| 12:02 am | MerrieDestefano: | @ASolitaryScribe I don’t think science created any religion. But religions changed. #ufchat |
| 12:02 am | Preternatural__: | @J_GriffinB Yeah, you explain McGuffin in 140 characters or less *L* #UFchat |
| 12:02 am | SpiceBites: | Dagnabbit, I’ve to go for a limo ride in 13 mins…but this was fun & v. interesting! #UFChat |
| 12:02 am | shadowflame1974: | @MerrieDestefano when the person comes back does he get to chose what memories to keep or is it luck as to what processes? #ufchat |
| 12:03 am | J_GriffinB: | @Preternatural__ Think I just did! #ufchat |
| 12:03 am | ASolitaryScribe: | @MerrieDestefano what does this new science do to religion? R there new sects? #ufchat |
| 12:03 am | soniawrite: | @SpiceBites @MerrieDestefano i can see whole family soap opera! tragedies! especially with the 50 % memory thing #UFchat |
| 12:03 am | UF_Chat: | @SpiceBites We’ll announce winner in about 1/2 hr. |
| 12:03 am | MerrieDestefano: | @soniawrite Families often break up, lose contact with one another. People build fake families through Virtual Reality chat rooms. #ufchat |
| 12:03 am | J_GriffinB: | @SpiceBites Careful. Those that ride in limos in my tales end up getting shot at a lot. #ufchat |
| 12:04 am | SpiceBites: | @MerrieDestefano Nice to meet you & good luck! I’m looking forward to reading Afterlife. #UFChat |
| 12:04 am | J_GriffinB: | @soniawrite @SpiceBites @MerrieDestefano Might be a blessing for some families. #ufchat |
| 12:04 am | MerrieDestefano: | @J_GriffinB I think I need to learn more about McGuffins or whatever they are! I need to use them more often! #ufchat |
| 12:04 am | Preternatural__: | @MerrieDestefano Thanks for stopping by =) #UFchat |
| 12:04 am | CarolynCrane: | @MerrieDestefano What’s the most important issue/question for you, in the book. #ufchat |
| 12:04 am | MerrieDestefano: | @shadowflame1974 Yes, you get to choose what memories to keep. But still, someone you know may have erased you from their memory. #ufchat |
| 12:04 am | SpiceBites: | @J_GriffinB I think I’m more in danger of getting trampled by overexcited kids trying to see xmas lights. LOL! #UFChat |
| 12:05 am | MerrieDestefano: | @ASolitaryScribe Yes, new religions or more like cults. I didn’t go in to that too much. Just implied. Suicide cults. #ufchat |
| 12:06 am | MerrieDestefano: | @ASolitaryScribe Changes in major religions. The lack of death changed so much in the world of AFTERLIFE. #ufchat |
| 12:06 am | shadowflame1974: | @SpiceBites lol ouch watch the toes! #ufchat |
| 12:06 am | VampBookClub: | RT @UF_Chat: Last call for questions for @MerrieDestefano today (& entry into our signed book giveaway) – Ask Merrie now! #ufchat |
| 12:06 am | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano Perhaps your next one in the series? #ufchat |
| 12:06 am | MerrieDestefano: | @ASolitaryScribe It was like a long dark shadow fell over the world when they took away death. #ufchat |
| 12:06 am | MerrieDestefano: | @soniawrite Exactly! Me too! #ufchat |
| 12:06 am | SpiceBites: | @UF_Chat I’ll check the transcripts l8r for the winner. Deepest apologies for blundering w/ques. earlier. & Thanx for moderating! #UFChat |
| 12:06 am | MerrieDestefano: | @SpiceBites Thanks so much and thanks for dropping by! #ufchat |
| 12:06 am | soniawrite: | @J_GriffinB @soniawrite @SpiceBites @MerrieDestefano can only imagine the serial killers. & stalkers – being stalked through 9 lives #UFchat |
| 12:07 am | UF_Chat: | RT @CarolynCrane: @MerrieDestefano What’s the most important issue/question for you, in the book. #ufchat |
| 12:07 am | SpiceBites: | Toodles all! Have fun! #UFChat |
| 12:07 am | ladytechie: | @MerrieDestefano What was the one part of the story to which you later realized you wished you gave more depth? #UFChat |
| 12:07 am | MerrieDestefano: | @J_GriffinB @soniawrite @SpiceBites To not stay together? I think a lot of people would rather have diff. parents/sister/brothers. #ufchat |
| 12:08 am | inkgypsy: | @soniawrite What a creepy 9and yet cool) idea! Multi-life stalker etc #UFchat |
| 12:08 am | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat @CarolynCrane @MerrieDestefano And how is the technology policed? #ufchat |
| 12:08 am | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Thanks for coming & answering our questions today & for the giveaway bonus! Any closing comments you?d like to add? #ufchat |
| 12:08 am | J_GriffinB: | @MerrieDestefano My thoughts too. Forget all the shit pulled on you by siblings, the disappointments, etc. especially abusive house #ufchat |
| 12:08 am | MerrieDestefano: | @soniawrite OOOOH, what a great idea! #ufchat |
| 12:09 am | J_GriffinB: | RT @UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Thanks for coming & answering our questions today & for the giveaway bonus! #ufchat |
| 12:09 am | soniawrite: | @MerrieDestefano oh, why, thank you lol #UFchat |
| 12:09 am | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB Interesting charac study there-patterns evident even in kids who don’t remember etc -seeing that after erased memories & #UFchat |
| 12:10 am | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB and trying to figure out the mystery of past would be twisted fun to write! #UFchat |
| 12:10 am | UF_Chat: | FINAL BIG Q @MerrieDestefano Where can people find you online/contact you to ask questions about your book or other writing? #ufchat |
| 12:11 am | J_GriffinB: | @inkgypsy Nine Princes in Amber comes to mind. He knows he can’t trust Random, but still likes him. Can’t explain it. #ufchat |
| 12:11 am | soniawrite: | @inkgypsy yeah so very creepy. but interesting to read about #UFchat |
| 12:11 am | UF_Chat: | I wonder if our guest got booted off for all the awesome comments? #ufchat |
| 12:13 am | UF_Chat: | I will post Merrie’s website and you know where to find her on Twitter! Think we may have lost her to API limits… |
| 12:13 am | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano Thanks again for being our special guest today! We wish you every success with AFTERLIFE & hope to read more soon! #ufchat |
| 12:13 am | UF_Chat: | That?s a wrap for #UFchat today! Next week is a Winter Solstice/Christmas/holiday themed #ufchat |
| 12:13 am | UF_Chat: | Having a special holiday?themed #UFchat next week, then break due to public holidays and return in 2011 w many UF authors booked to Q&A! |
| 12:13 am | ladytechie: | @MerrieDestefano Yes, thank you! #UFChat |
| 12:13 am | UF_Chat: | Got a topic you want to chat about? Let me know! (@inkgypsy) I?ll add it to the list & maybe even bump up the chat-date for it. ? #ufchat |
| 12:14 am | UF_Chat: | Some additional resources on AFTERLIFE, and life and death in urban fantasy and speculative fiction: #ufchat |
| 12:14 am | UF_Chat: | Primer for #UFchat early birds: The Body?Whedon?s most powerful death portrayal was natural one (Buffy’s mom) http://bit.ly/fNtiyV #ufchat |
| 12:14 am | UF_Chat: | Primer #2 for #UFchat early birds: AFTERLIFE: The Resurrection Chronicles (blurb & reviews) http://bit.ly/eK8FBe #ufchat |
| 12:14 am | J_GriffinB: | And yes, thanks again @marriedestefano and thanks for hosting, @inkgypsy ! #ufchat |
| 12:14 am | UF_Chat: | @MerrieDestefano?s website with info & reviews on AFTERLIFE: http://bit.ly/ijHhEW #ufchat |
| 12:15 am | UF_Chat: | Speculative faith: urban fantasy – Afterlife:The Resurrection Chronicles http://bit.ly/fjbYzh #ufchat |
| 12:15 am | UF_Chat: | Bringing Back the Dead ? Lame or Awesome? http://bit.ly/i0U8Gt (Thanks to @AnassaRh for this link!) #ufchat |
| 12:15 am | UF_Chat: | Killing Off Characters by Nikki Mantyla http://bit.ly/faVaVI #ufchat |
| 12:15 am | UF_Chat: | Gothic, Paranormal & UF for Tweens & Teens ? many recommended have ?how to cope with death? central to themes: http://bit.ly/e6Ykjn #ufchat |
| 12:16 am | UF_Chat: | Buffy ?The Body? episode is a good example of how to write crying scenes (article) http://bit.ly/ia8AIZ #ufchat |
| 12:16 am | UF_Chat: | Vampirology from Creation to Death & Dusting (much from Buffy but a lot in common with much UF) http://bit.ly/dHQrUh #ufchat |
| 12:16 am | UF_Chat: | DVD Commentary text on Buffy series episode The Body by Joss Whedon, when her mom dies natural death http://bit.ly/gG19NL #ufchat |
| 12:16 am | UF_Chat: | Humungous thnx to @Shadowflame1974, @AnassaRh & @Daylilie222 – all helped in diff ways during my fur-baby emergency this week. xx #ufchat |
| 12:16 am | UF_Chat: | #UFchat transcript available on the #UFchat blog in 48hrs-ish, allowing for late comments. Just use the hashtag. ? #ufchat |
| 12:16 am | UF_Chat: | Now to tally up entries & choose winner for signed copy of AFTERLIFE via random.org!! ? stick around if you want to see who won! #ufchat |
| 12:17 am | J_GriffinB: | Sticking. #ufchat |
| 12:17 am | soniawrite: | @MerrieDestefano – thanks for answering all the questions #UFchat |
| 12:18 am | shadowflame1974: | @MerrieDestafano Thanks for the eel juggling. It was very entertaining |
| 12:18 am | shadowflame1974: | @InkGypsy no worries on the help hon #ufchat |
| 12:18 am | CarolynCrane: | @UF_Chat This has been so interesting. Your book sounds awesome. #UFchat @MerrieDestefano |
| 12:21 am | inkgypsy: | @CarolynCrane Thanks! Merrie is awesome & her writing is just lovely-beautiful words on top of gritty, xlnt story. Thx for coming! #UFchat |
| 12:25 am | Jess_Haines: | Yaaay, I’m finally here! |
| 12:27 am | shadowflame1974: | @Jess_Haines lol Just in time for the drawing |
| 12:27 am | Jess_Haines: | @shadowflame1974 Woot! |
| 12:35 am | inkgypsy: | @Jess_Haines I forgot the hashtag – oops – pls add #UFchat to your question! |
| 12:37 am | Jess_Haines: | @MerrieDestefano So I didn’t get to toss a question in there–what do you consider your go-to resource RE: resurrection? Books, web? #ufchat |
| 12:40 am | inkgypsy: | @Jess_Haines I have sent her a mail.. |
| 12:41 am | Jess_Haines: | @inkgypsy Awesome, thanks. |
| 12:47 am | J_GriffinB: | Unt ze vinner ist? #ufchat |
| 12:50 am | UF_Chat: | And the winner is? (drum roll) @J_GriffinB!! Congratulations! Pls contact @MerrieDestefano w your mailing details ASAP! #UFchat |
| 12:50 am | inkgypsy: | And the winner is? (drum roll) @J_GriffinB!! Congratulations! Pls contact @MerrieDestefano w your mailing details ASAP! #UFchat |
| 12:51 am | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Congrats ! =) #ufchat |
| 12:51 am | shadowflame1974: | RT @inkgypsy: And the winner is(drum roll) @J_GriffinB!! Congratulations! Pls contact @MerrieDestefano w your mailing details ASAP! #ufchat |
| 12:51 am | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB Congratulations! Woot! #UFchat |
| 12:51 am | J_GriffinB: | Thanks! Wow. #ufchat |
| 12:52 am | shadowflame1974: | @J_GriffinB ROFL YOU! #ufchat |
| 12:52 am | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB Your number was 2 by the way – guess it’s lucky for you! #UFchat |
| 12:52 am | J_GriffinB: | I’m about to #2 from excitement. #ufchat |
| 12:53 am | J_GriffinB: | Schweet, though, really! #ufchat |
| 12:53 am | shadowflame1974: | @J_GriffinB snicker…. #ufchat |
| 12:54 am | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB *eyeroll then throws confetti – times 2* #UFchat |
| 12:55 am | J_GriffinB: | unable to find email addy for her, and she’s not following. Shall I send my physical addy to you for forwarding? #ufchat |
| 12:56 am | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB BTW if you can’t DM Merrie let me know and I can email her your address. Alternately you can contact her on Facebook. |
| 12:56 am | inkgypsy: | @shadowflame1974 That’s not to say I HAVE your address.. not yet anyway.. lol #UFchat |
| 12:56 am | Wulfie_: | RT @UF_Chat: And the winner is? (drum roll) @J_GriffinB!! Congratulations! Pls contact @MerrieDestefano w your mailing details ASAP! #UFchat |
| 12:57 am | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB That’s not to say I HAVE your address.. not yet anyway.. lol #UFchat |
| 12:57 am | inkgypsy: | @J_GriffinB LOL Yes please – I’ll get it to her straight away. |
| 12:59 am | J_GriffinB: | Done. #ufchat |
| 1:10 am | soniawrite: | @J_GriffinB congrats on winning the book! #UFchat |
| 6:31 am | MerrieDestefano: | Thanks again to everyone who hung out at #ufchat today. |
| 6:42 am | MerrieDestefano: | @Jess_Haines Hi! Re your question…do U mean research for the book or the resurrection process? I use the Web a lot in my research. #ufchat |
| 6:43 am | MerrieDestefano: | @Jess_Haines As far as the resurrection process, I made it up. Some nuggets of science here & there, like telomeres. #ufchat |
| 8:59 am | AnassaRh: | All right. Settling down for #UFChat. Suggest: Death, dying, etc. Should be interesting? |
| 9:01 am | AnassaRh: | A1: Vampires, weres, zombies, ghosts. Less obviously, fake/temporary death, magical reinsertion of soul, magical loopholes. #ufchat |
| 9:02 am | AnassaRh: | A1a: Depends on book. Sometimes most of it. Sometimes all of it. Usually in between somewhere. #ufchat |
| 9:08 am | AnassaRh: | A2: Not offhand, no. I spy a gap in need of filling? #ufchat |
| 9:10 am | AnassaRh: | A3: Violent death is more exciting? It can spur the plot, give added drive to the MC? #ufchat |
| 9:11 am | AnassaRh: | Revenge, dying wishes, etc. are more powerful devices when violence factors in. Also adds grit/noir to story. #ufchat |
| 9:13 am | AnassaRh: | Although “Child, I always regretted not tracking down that witch.” is equally powerful to “Child, find the werewolf that killed me.” #ufchat |
| 9:14 am | AnassaRh: | Hmm. Going back to the slaying family idea from a couple weeks ago? Warriors dislike bed deaths. No honor. Same with slayers? #ufchat |
| 9:15 am | AnassaRh: | Would an anti-slaying child take up arms on their parents’ dying wish? Would a slayer do everything possible to die in battle? #ufchat |
| 9:19 am | AnassaRh: | Okay, now that tangent’s over? A4a: Powers are pretty much a given. Also temp disorientation, trauma, confusion, denial. #ufchat |
| 9:20 am | AnassaRh: | Hey! Do resurrected monsters ever get PTSD? Esp. if a were’s conscious for the initial change? #ufchat |
| 9:25 am | AnassaRh: | A6: They couldn’t stop it. It will happen again, same result. Also, if it’s death by age, there’s gradual weakening of the body. #ufchat |
| 9:42 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh So glad you’re chiming in tonight! #UFchat Another of those topics I expected to find lots of posts on and barely found anything! |
| 9:42 am | AnassaRh: | A7: Desire to humanize the monsters. Because we want to be immortal. Because UF is the anti-horror? #ufchat |
| 9:43 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh Because UF bumps back those things in the night..? |
| 9:45 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy Perhaps #ufchat will spark a rash of posts, then? I was surprised as well. I’d think a geeky lit major? |
| 9:45 am | AnassaRh: | Ha, yes! RT @inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Because UF bumps back those things in the night..? |
| 9:48 am | AnassaRh: | A9: Cons: You wouldn’t have the same (or any) sense memory. Might not recognize your body. Might not be recognized. Bigots. #ufchat |
| 9:48 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh I think some aspiring UF author (who doesn’t have a billion deadlines) could easily blog daily on ideas from a weekly #UFchat! |
| 9:49 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh Ooh – totally forgot to bring up the sense memory of heart transplant patients & hand transplants too…#UFchat |
| 9:49 am | AnassaRh: | A9: Perks: Young and healthy body (we hope). Fresh slate, possible new identity. #ufchat |
| 9:50 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh .. there’s scientific evidence of ‘previous owner’s personality embedded in them – particularly heart! (Frankenstein OMG!) #UFchat |
| 9:50 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy Even in the heart? Do you have a link? That sounds cool! (Didn’t Koontz already write a book off that idea?) #ufchat |
| 9:51 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh Must ask if clones are adult, what about sense memory of ‘empty’ bodies – what would be lacking from grown from kid human? #UFchat |
| 9:52 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy Depends on type of cloning. Clone in vat from infancy? Everything. Clone in nursery? Very little, but not YOURS. #ufchat |
| 9:53 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh ESPECIALLY the heart – artistic talent transfer, partner preference & more Medical article read. Can’t remember where… #UFchat |
| 9:53 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy I’m assuming clone had to start as kid. Know of no scientific way to do otherwise. #ufchat |
| 9:53 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh In AFTERLIFE the clone/download bodies are all full grown as children can’t ‘download’/be downloaded to. #UFchat |
| 9:54 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy Another question, maybe better: What would the clone have sense memory for, that the original wouldn’t? #ufchat |
| 9:54 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh Little vague on the cloning process myself – imagine tanks & vats – like the movies & X-Files. #UFchat |
| 9:55 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh Yes that too! (clone’s sense memory ADDITION to normal humans) #UFchat |
| 9:55 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy Ooh. Must look that up! Think we’ll ever do heart transplants just to get better art skills? #ufchat |
| 9:55 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh That gets very black market super quick… *shudder* #UFchat |
| 9:56 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy And if the clones incur some kind of trauma? An abusive nurse, maybe? #ufchat |
| 9:56 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy Makes for a great story, though, doesn’t it? #ufchat |
| 9:56 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy Fair enough. #ufchat |
| 9:57 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh Yes – would be interesting if figured out how to track sense memory!! (eek – supernatural ability alert!) #UFchat |
| 9:57 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy As far as I understand it, human clones would be like sheep clones. Cell culture ?> test tube baby ?> child? #ufchat |
| 9:58 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh Or… now that they can just grow various body parts you could put them together… *shudders again* #UFchat |
| 9:58 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy I think vat-clone thing can be seen as womb metaphor. Maybe even intended as such: pump nutrients in, grow clone faster. #ufchat |
| 9:59 am | AnassaRh: | @inkgypsy Sorry for horrifying you so late at night. |
| 9:59 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh You kidding? I live in this universe! LOL #UFchat What do you think I think about all day/night? LOL |
| 10:00 am | inkgypsy: | @AnassaRh Besides it’s early yet – sun-up a long way away… |
| 10:07 am | AnassaRh: | A10: Can see life-after-death heightening life (death sux) or lowering (life not the end). #ufchat |
| 10:08 am | AnassaRh: | A10: Real question is, if you become a vampire, /can/ you take it all with you? What are the legalities behind resurrection? #ufchat |
| 6:03 pm | hannahnpbowman: | @inkgypsy @AnassaRh Jumping in late, but in Vorkosigan saga, clones are raised as children, then have brain transplants. #ufchat |
| 6:04 pm | hannahnpbowman: | @inkgypsy @AnassaRh Old personality is destroyed, replaced by new one (of brain). Basically murder. #ufchat |
| 6:24 pm | AnassaRh: | @hannahnpbowman @inkgypsy Almost forgot about the Vorkosigan saga because we were talking UF! #ufchat |
| 6:24 pm | AnassaRh: | @hannahnpbowman @inkgypsy But those clones were the inspiration for my “raised as kids” comment. Feel terrible for them. Ugh. #ufchat |
| 7:10 pm | hannahnpbowman: | @AnassaRh @inkgypsy I’ve still got Vorkosigans on the brain… (pun unintentional) #ufchat |
| 8:21 pm | LunaLindsey: | @inkgypsy I’ve thought of using #UFchat as a resource for writing at Indie Urban Fantasy. |
| 8:24 pm | LunaLindsey: | @inkgypsy Real cloning isn’t too mysterious: An egg/ovum is implanted w cloned DNA, allowed to grow. No vats, just a normal baby. #UFchat |
| 9:24 pm | AnassaRh: | On my blog: Trying Something New – #UFChat Recap http://bit.ly/fPaFVv |
| 11:23 am | inkgypsy: | @lunalindsey Please DO use #UFchat as a resource! one of the reasons I created it is so writers could use it. |
| 6:34 pm | AnassaRh: | RT from yesterday: Trying Something New – #UFChat Recap http://bit.ly/fPaFVv (on death in urban fantasy) |
| 8:14 pm | LunaLindsey: | @inkgypsy I would participate more in #ufchat if you used something like IRC or a web-based IRC. Twitter chat is too hard to follow. |
| 8:15 pm | LunaLindsey: | @inkgypsy As for skimming transcripts for blog ideas, ok! Will do. Will also try to credit and link when appropriate. |
| 8:35 pm | LunaLindsey: | #UFChat recap and musings on death in Urban Fantasy at Specnology blog: http://bit.ly/hTlUSx |
| December 15, 2010 | ||
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| 12:09 am | jimnduncan: | #ufchat death in uf to me is more interesting looking at the other side, ie what possibilities lie beyond the living world. |
| December 16, 2010 | ||
| 8:14 am | AnassaRh: | Excellent post by @nkjemisin on breaking female stereotypes, women warriors, and gender policing. A must read. http://bit.ly/f2eOr9 #ufchat |
| 8:22 am | jolantru: | RT @AnassaRh: Excellent post by @nkjemisin on breaking female stereotypes, women warriors, and gender policing. A must read. http://bit.ly/f2eOr9 #ufchat |
| December 17, 2010 | ||
| 2:10 am | MerrieDestefano: | @soniawrite Oh, was that from the #UFchat? I think I forgot to use the hashtag. |
| 1:46 pm | shevdon: | Writing three-dimensional characters for UF and other genres – How? New article at http://shevdon.com/ #ufchat #writing #writechat |
| 2:06 pm | sfbook: | RT @shevdon: Writing three-dimensional characters for UF and other genres – How? New article at http://shevdon.com/ #ufchat #writing #writechat |
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END OF TRANSCRIPT FOR DECEMBER 11th, 2010
Next week (December 18th) is a Winter Solstice/Christmas/holiday themed #ufchat along with LOTS OF GIFTS FOR YOU! (It’s also our last chat for the year before we take a break during the public holidays.)
See you next week and bring your google-fu – gifts will be found via ‘google scavenger hunts’ – so bring boots, googles and any other kickin’ equipment to give you the edge you need… books up for grabs – all UF! (& most with a little seasonal ‘kick’ to boot
– will be tweeted before the event!
Stay tuned to @UF_Chat on Twitter for countdowns, updates, pre-chat primers (especially important for your google-fu-ing by the way) and a glimpse at the prize bag before you go hunting.
Gypsy (@inkgypsy)
Please note: I plan to pull out these questions & answers for a separate post but (as you might have deduced from this late posting of the transcript) life has gotten crazy-busy beyond the normal Christmas-season stuff so I’m not sure when I’ll get to it… In the meantime, hopefully the color coding will make for easier reading/tracking of the Q&A.
Recommended Read: “Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles” by Merrie Destefano
Title: Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles
Author: Merrie Destefano (@MerrieDestefano on Twitter)
Type of UF: Futuristic/UF, noir, mystery, thrilling, adventure
Paranormal Element/ Creatures: Resurrection, Heaven/Hell
Publisher: US – Eos (Harper Collins imprint)
Release Date/s: September 28, 2010
Back Cover Copy:
WELCOME TO YOUR NEXT CHANCE.
Chaz Domingue works as a professional Babysitter in New Orleans. His job is to integrate and protect the recently deceased into their new and improved lives—a position he reluctantly accepted after his father was murdered. Though Fresh Start has always been the only game in town, resurrection isn’t what it’s cracked up to be. Nine lives are all a person can get—and a powerful group of desperate, high-level Nine-Timers will stop at nothing to possess the keys to true immortality. Unfortunately, this places Chaz at the lethal center of a maelstrom.
Now the only hope for Chaz and his family—and the ultimate fate of the human race—is secretly locked away in the mind of Angelique, the beautiful, mysterious Newbie who’s been entrusted to Chaz’s care…
From Harper Collins:
“A haunting story that seamlessly blends the hard-boiled twists of cyberpunk with the noir flavor of a Southern Gothic thriller. Gritty and compelling….Truly high octane stuff.”
—Marc Giller, author of Hammerjack
Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in Afterlife, a thrilling urban fantasy noir adventure set in an alternate world where everyone gets nine lives. In the vein of J. D. Robb’s bestselling ‘In Death’ series, author Merrie Destefano blends a futuristic concept with gritty noir mystery for a riveting story of murder, conspiracy, and multiple-resurrections that will appeal equally to fantasy, science fiction, and mystery fans. Even paranormal romance lovers will find something to love in Destefano’s extraordinary Afterlife.
InkGypsy’s Amazon review:
I agree with Book Faery & SciFiChick – dark, mysterious, complex, riveting and steeped in the aura of New Orleans… and I too was happily speechless on finishing.
You have to read Ms. Destefano’s New Orleans based, futuristic urban fantasy “Afterlife” – beautiful, lush writing with that wonderful sense of immediacy and wit we love in UF! It’s an ode to the city and to hope and you won’t be able to put it down till you’re done – a stunning debut!
It’s #UFchat’s* recommended read for the end of 2010 and we can’t wait to speak to Ms. Destefano about how she built and crafted this wonderful novel, with its very real and complex characters, twisted mysteries, wonder-full urban darkness and the cities of the dead.
I only have one question: can we have more please?!
Interested? Want a taste of what we’re all raving about? Here’s the trailer:
You can read CHAPTER ONE HERE.
Join us for a special Q&A with author Merrie Destefano on December 11th, 2010.
We’ll be giving away a special signed copy of her book to chat participants! For automatic entry, just ask Merrie a question during the chat. See you on Saturday!
Gypsy (@InkGypsy)
Transcript for December 4th, 2010: The Human Factor in UF MCs
This week’s TOPIC: The Human Factor – from mundane human to magical hybrid: how human are/do you want our UF MCs to be – really?
We look at just how human UF MCs really are. Are they as much like us as we think they are? Do we really want them to be? Are they really just like us but with xtra-great boots & xtra-fast sass? The human side of our MCs – what makes them like us?
Official UFchat questions in YELLOW for easier reading.
Resources/ topic-related links are in BLUE.
| 10:29 pm | sandrawickham: | RT @shadowflame1974: 30 minutes to chat time. How human are UF MCs? Come join us in the discussion #UFchat |
| 10:30 pm | inkgypsy: | #Ufchat people alert! RT @Jess_Haines: Woo hoo! Finally put up a new blog post. Obits, free books, giveaways, more… http://bit.ly/hP28GA |
| 10:33 pm | shadowflame1974: | RT: @inkgypsy: #Ufchat people alert! RT @Jess_Haines!Finally put up a new blog post. Obits, free books, giveaways, more http://bit.ly/hP28GA |
| 10:42 pm | shadowflame1974: | 20 minutes! Is being human enough? This weeks discussion: The Human Factor- how human are UF MCs. come join us #UFchat |
| 10:43 pm | inkgypsy: | @Ben_Aaronovitch Primer for #UFchat procrastin-early birds: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat |
| 10:45 pm | inkgypsy: | Do you like reading UF from Frankenstein’s POV? His monster’s POV? Who do you relate to more? The Human Factor in UF – #UFchat in 15 mins! |
| 10:45 pm | UF_Chat: | Do you like reading UF from Frankenstein’s POV? His monster’s POV? Who do you relate to more? The Human Factor in UF – #UFchat in 15 mins! |
| 10:45 pm | shadowflame1974: | RT @inkgypsy: @Ben_Aaronovitch Primer for #UFchat procrastin-early birds: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat |
| 10:50 pm | inkgypsy: | Primer for #UFchat early birds: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat |
| 10:50 pm | UF_Chat: | Primer for #UFchat early birds: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat |
| 10:50 pm | shadowflame1974: | RT @UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat |
| 10:51 pm | inkgypsy: | Changing to my #UFchat moderator boots & swapping zombie brain for thinking cap. See you at #UFchat in 10 – no 9! – minutes! |
| 10:51 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | #UFchat Quick Robin – to the coffee cave! |
| 10:52 pm | shadowflame1974: | 10 minutes folks! grab your hats we are going on a wild ride today! Is being HUMAN enough to beat the monsters share your thoughts #UFchat |
| 10:52 pm | inkgypsy: | @RCMurphy Are you joining us in #UFchat today? |
| 10:53 pm | inkgypsy: | RT @shadowflame1974: 10 minutes folks! grab your hats we are going on a wild ride today! Is being HUMAN enough to beat the monsters share your thoughts #UFchat |
| 10:53 pm | leapetra: | I think I will actually make it to the chat today! #ufchat |
| 10:53 pm | shadowflame1974: | @leapetra awesome! #UFchat |
| 10:53 pm | rcmurphy: | @inkgypsy I would if I had more braincells. One of my UF novels does have a human MC. But I’m about ready to nap at my desk. lol #UFchat |
| 10:54 pm | shadowflame1974: | @rcmurphy awww hugs hon. #UFchat |
| 10:54 pm | inkgypsy: | @RCMurphy It’s not really about humans so much as how we humans relate to the non humans we write. |
| 10:55 pm | Preternatural__: | Never stopped in, but @inkgypsy s a sweetheart so, I can’t resist |
| 10:56 pm | shadowflame1974: | @Preternatural__ hey welcome! #UFchat |
| 10:57 pm | UF_Chat: | TODAY: The Human Factor – from mundane human to magical hybrid: how human are/do you want our UF MCs to be – really? #UFchat |
| 10:57 pm | inkgypsy: | TODAY: The Human Factor – from mundane human to magical hybrid: how human are/do you want our UF MCs to be – really? #UFchat |
| 10:57 pm | rcmurphy: | @inkgypsy *snorts* I’m one with the monsters, dude. It’s harder for me to write plain ol’ humans. #UFchat |
| 10:57 pm | J_GriffinB: | Here…and hankering… #ufchat |
| 10:58 pm | UF_Chat: | Do our MCs stand out from crowd b/c they’re the humans we WANT to be or b/c they’re MORE? UF MCs & being human TODAY #UFchat |
| 10:58 pm | inkgypsy: | Do our MCs stand out from crowd b/c they’re the humans we WANT to be or b/c they’re MORE? UF MCs & being human TODAY #UFchat |
| 10:58 pm | inkgypsy: | @RCMurphy My point exactly. |
| 10:59 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | My MC is human – he just came out that way. #UFchat |
| 10:59 pm | leapetra: | @inkgypsy the ones I write about, they try to separate themselves from humans. #ufchat |
| 10:59 pm | shadowflame1974: | @rcmurphy we all write monsters, just sometimes they are hidden in with the sheep |
| 11:00 pm | inkgypsy: | @shadowflame1974 baaa! #UFchat (That wasn’t me – it was the sheep behind me) |
| 11:00 pm | inkgypsy: | @leapetra Interesting how we (both sides) have insistence on segregation.. #UFchat |
| 11:00 pm | UF_Chat: | 3, 2… & now live with #UFchat! Standing out from the crowd are our UF MCs ? is it because they?re a little bit more than human? #UFchat |
| 11:01 pm | shadowflame1974: | @inkgypsy lol #UFchat |
| 11:01 pm | leapetra: | @inkgypsy one of my MC’s became upset, because he became attracted to a woman. It unnerved him. #ufchat |
| 11:01 pm | UF_Chat: | TODAY: We look at just how human UF MCs really are. Are they as much like us as we think they are? Do we really want them to be? #UFchat |
| 11:01 pm | UF_Chat: | Are they really just like us but with xtra-great boots & xtra-fast sass? The human side of our MCs ? what makes them like us? #UFchat |
| 11:01 pm | inkgypsy: | @leapetra I like that! #UFchat |
| 11:02 pm | UF_Chat: | Reminder: ?S? stands for statement, which will be followed by a ?Q? (a related #UFchat question for discussion). #UFchat |
| 11:02 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | The monster/human line can be very blurry in my stuff #UFchat |
| 11:02 pm | UF_Chat: | I just got a message Twitter went down but I’m back! #UFchat |
| 11:02 pm | UF_Chat: | Q1: Consider the ?big?/most longtime-popular UF series. Are the MCs all-human, part-human or not-at-all-human? #UFchat |
| 11:02 pm | J_GriffinB: | #UFChat starting now! @Karen_Hooper @saramcclung @gina_penn @cvaldezmiller #UFChat starting now! #ufchat |
| 11:02 pm | UF_Chat: | S: I?ll post an author & their series & you guys fill in the MCs (not just lead character) – name + humans/part-humans/etc #UFchat |
| 11:03 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | A fantastic person in a mundane world is fun but so is a mundane person in a fantastic world. #UFchat |
| 11:03 pm | UF_Chat: | Please note: chosen/magical destiny/enhanced abilities due to such does NOT equal 100% human. #UFchat |
| 11:03 pm | UF_Chat: | Kim Harrison?s The Hollows series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:03 pm | UF_Chat: | Jim Butcher?s Dresden Files: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:03 pm | UF_Chat: | Patricia Briggs? Mercedes Thompson series:MCs & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:03 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @UF_Chat Dresden: the Wizards are not entirely human #UFchat |
| 11:03 pm | UF_Chat: | Kelley Armstrong?s Women of the Otherworld: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:04 pm | UF_Chat: | Carrie Vaughn?s Kitty Norville series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:04 pm | UF_Chat: | Rob Thurman?s Cal Leandros series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:04 pm | UF_Chat: | Charlaine Harris? Sookie Stackhouse series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:04 pm | shadowflame1974: | Mercedes Thompson- half human skinwalker #UFchat |
| 11:04 pm | UF_Chat: | Ilona Andrews? Kate Daniels series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:04 pm | UF_Chat: | Vicki Pettersson?s Signs of the Zodiac series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:04 pm | sandrawickham: | @UF_Chat Hi everyone, I’m new here so I just wanted to introduce myself. *waves* #UFchat |
| 11:05 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | God there are so many series I haven’t had time to read yet! #UFchat |
| 11:05 pm | UF_Chat: | Simon R. Green?s Nightside series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:05 pm | UF_Chat: | Rachel Caine?s Weather Warden series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:05 pm | shadowflame1974: | @sandrawickham hey hon! Welcome! #UFchat |
| 11:05 pm | UF_Chat: | @sandrawickham Welcome! Jump in. |
| 11:05 pm | shadowflame1974: | @Ben_Aaronovitch I KNOW! lol #UFchat |
| 11:05 pm | UF_Chat: | Laurell K. Hamilton?s Anita Blake series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:05 pm | UF_Chat: | Joss Whedon?s Buffy the Vampire Slayer series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:05 pm | leapetra: | @sandrawickham HI #ufchat |
| 11:05 pm | UF_Chat: | Lilith Saintcrow?s Jill Kismet & Dante Valentine series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:06 pm | UF_Chat: | Q1a: What other big UF series characters spring to mind and how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:06 pm | shadowflame1974: | Believe that the MC on the Vicki Peterson’s books was human but I could be wrong. #UFchat |
| 11:07 pm | UF_Chat: | @Ben_Aaronovitch One of the reasons I’m posting a selection – rarely meet someone who’s read even all the big ones. So many! #UFchat |
| 11:07 pm | shadowflame1974: | @cemurphy Walker Papers Human with destiny. Not completely human #UFchat |
| 11:07 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | S1a shevdens 61 nails has a human MC who rapidly becomes non-human. #UFchat |
| 11:07 pm | sandrawickham: | @shadowflame1974 They’re all super heroes (either dark or light) in Vicki Petersson’s series. So, human with super powers. #ufchat |
| 11:07 pm | NLGervasio: | has errands to run and will miss #UFchat AGAIN! Crap. |
| 11:07 pm | UF_Chat: | @shadowflame1974 Well – no actually. She was a ‘something’ she got from her mother & her father too – passed it on to her daughter.. #UFchat |
| 11:07 pm | leapetra: | @UF_Chat except for Angel, Oz, Spike, and the demon whose name escapes me. all were human #ufchat |
| 11:08 pm | UF_Chat: | @NLGervasio |
| 11:08 pm | J_GriffinB: | @leapetra Not if a destiny applies… #ufchat |
| 11:08 pm | UF_Chat: | @leapetra Buffy wasn’t – chosen & given special powers but her Scoobies mostly were. #UFchat |
| 11:08 pm | shadowflame1974: | I only got a bit through the first book b4 I had to give it back. lol #UFchat |
| 11:08 pm | sandrawickham: | @UF_Chat Kim Harrison – Witch, Vampire, Pixie..and werewolf. I’d say her characters are still very “human” though. #ufchat |
| 11:09 pm | J_GriffinB: | I’m remarkably under-read in the genre. #ufchat |
| 11:09 pm | shadowflame1974: | so perhaps it is safe to say that Most, UF MCs are a little more than human #UFchat |
| 11:09 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | I remember there being a really good speech about destiny in ‘He Man: the Movie’ of all things. #UFchat |
| 11:09 pm | NLGervasio: | But that doesn’t mean you can’t join! *winks* #UFchat! TODAY: The Human Factor – how human are UF MCs – really? Just started!!! GO! |
| 11:09 pm | UF_Chat: | I should repost 1a. Q1a: What other big UF series characters spring to mind and how human are they? #UFchat |
| 11:09 pm | J_GriffinB: | @sandrawickham That’s the thing, I think. Regardless of the supernatural, all the best fiction illuminates the human condition. #ufchat |
| 11:10 pm | Jinxie_G: | RT @NLGervasio: But that doesn’t mean you can’t join! *winks* #UFchat! TODAY: The Human Factor – how human are UF MCs – really? Just started!!! GO! |
| 11:10 pm | shadowflame1974: | @Ben_Aaronovitch oh really? much as I hate to go back to that, will have to look it up #UFchat |
| 11:10 pm | UF_Chat: | @Ben_Aaronovitch You saw that? (S’ok – I know people who worked on it) #UFchat |
| 11:10 pm | leapetra: | What I like about Buffy is when Oz found out he was a werewolf, he was the same, no flip out #ufchat |
| 11:10 pm | UF_Chat: | @shadowflame1974 Interesting – no? #UFchat |
| 11:10 pm | sandrawickham: | @UF_Chat Kat Richardson’s Greywalker series, main character is human, but has died. Other than that, very human. #ufchat |
| 11:10 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @UF_Chat Saw it I stole ideas from it #UFchat |
| 11:10 pm | shadowflame1974: | @UF_Chat very much so. |
| 11:11 pm | UF_Chat: | @leapetra I liked that too – didn’t transform his essential self. just another dimension to his Oz-ness. |
| 11:11 pm | UF_Chat: | @sandrawickham She can see ghosts though, right? (been a while) #UFchat |
| 11:12 pm | UF_Chat: | Q2: Are there any 100% human/not ?chosen?/no special abilities main characters in the most popular UF series? #UFchat |
| 11:12 pm | sandrawickham: | @UF_Chat She sees into the “grey”, so she can see vampires, ghosts etc, yes. #ufchat |
| 11:13 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @UF_Chat Xander #UFchat |
| 11:13 pm | sandrawickham: | @UF_Chat Q2 @dianarowland has a main character who is human, but can summon demons, because she’s learned how. Does that count? #ufchat |
| 11:13 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat Not usually. Most 100%ers are victims in waiting. #ufchat |
| 11:13 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @UF_Chat Sorry S2: Xander #UFchat |
| 11:13 pm | inkgypsy: | @sara_UFblog Hi! We’re having #UFchat right now if you’d like to take a peek. Talking about human factor in UF today. |
| 11:14 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @inkgypsy Q2: Does Haven count? #UFchat |
| 11:14 pm | shadowflame1974: | @sandrawickham she’s got a special power… yep it counts lol #UFchat |
| 11:14 pm | inkgypsy: | @Ben_Aaronovitch Um… I cannot remember! (cringe face) #UFchat |
| 11:15 pm | UF_Chat: | S: The ?big? MCs of Urban Fantasy are – for the most part – not completely human yet one of the big ?draws? people cite of UF… #UFchat |
| 11:15 pm | leapetra: | xander is the best one. He stopped Willow from destroying the world, just by talking to her! #ufchat |
| 11:15 pm | UF_Chat: | S cont: … is the human factor/characters holding their own against the supernatural. #UFchat |
| 11:15 pm | UF_Chat: | Q3: What is considered ?human? in UF? #UFchat |
| 11:16 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat Warlock was a film that had some 100%ers as MC. #ufchat |
| 11:16 pm | UF_Chat: | @leapetra Season 6 was incredibly dark but had some of the best stuff. Willow insane baddie. Xander powerful 100% human. #UFchat |
| 11:16 pm | shadowflame1974: | Q3 plain old vanilla humans. no extra powers. #UFchat |
| 11:16 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @J_GriffinB Richard E. Grant #ufchat |
| 11:16 pm | shadowflame1974: | Man I SOOO need to watch Buffy #UFchat |
| 11:17 pm | Preternatural__: | I think that the struggle is mostly to see that the paranormal doesn’t swallow the human aspect of the characters whole #UFchat |
| 11:17 pm | UF_Chat: | Q3a: What qualities make a character MORE human than not? #UFchat |
| 11:17 pm | jennspiller: | @UF_Chat @leapetra I just watched all my favorite season 6 eps. It is my fav season. Love the dark. #UFchat |
| 11:17 pm | J_GriffinB: | @Ben_Aaronovitch @J_GriffinB Pardon? #ufchat |
| 11:18 pm | leapetra: | In my books I have one human with no special powers, unless you can count building a motorcycle one #ufchat |
| 11:18 pm | jennspiller: | Weakness. Insecurity. Mistakes. RT @UF_Chat: Q3a: What qualities make a character MORE human than not? #UFchat |
| 11:18 pm | shadowflame1974: | @Preternatural__ exactly #UFchat |
| 11:18 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @J_GriffinB Warlock: w/ Julian Sands and Richard E. Grant #ufchat |
| 11:18 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat A3a: Weakness, and inability to pull their head from their ass. #ufchat |
| 11:18 pm | kltworld: | RT @Preternatural__: I think that the struggle is mostly to see that the paranormal doesn’t swallow the human aspect of the characters whole #UFchat |
| 11:18 pm | UF_Chat: | @shadowflame1974 It’s the no extra powers that gets tricky – still tend to at least give MCs major kickassitude- just isn’t normal. #UFchat |
| 11:18 pm | shadowflame1974: | @jennspiller things we as plain old humans can relate to #UFchat |
| 11:19 pm | UF_Chat: | RT @Preternatural__: I think that the struggle is mostly to see that the paranormal doesn’t swallow the human aspect of the characters whole #UFchat |
| 11:19 pm | jennspiller: | @shadowflame1974 Netflix streaming! #UFchat |
| 11:19 pm | UF_Chat: | Q3b: What human qualities do you think are important to have for an MC to relate to the reader? #UFchat |
| 11:19 pm | leapetra: | A human character uses their head a lot more than the other ones. #ufchat |
| 11:20 pm | shadowflame1974: | @UF_Chat sure they could be kick ass, but w/o magic assistance or shape changing. I know Kick ass Humans! they ROCK #UFchat |
| 11:20 pm | J_GriffinB: | @Ben_Aaronovitch A2 Thanks, I forgot actor. Great movie. He had some lore to counter the Warlock, but anyone could use it. #ufchat |
| 11:20 pm | jessrosenbooks: | #UFchat (comment from lurkage) A paranormal char seems more human when s/he is in conflict w/para abilities. Doesn’t want them. |
| 11:21 pm | inkgypsy: | #UFchat Thx! (Frankenstein related for chat people) RT @Preternatural__: @inkgypsy Found it finally, Haunted Summer: http://imdb.to/gL7jhz |
| 11:21 pm | shadowflame1974: | @leapetra lol not always. Sometimes it is stupid mistakes by plain humans or others for that matter that save the day. #UFchat |
| 11:21 pm | UF_Chat: | Q4: Back to the lack of 100% human MCs. Why do you think most UF MCs are not, in fact, 100% human? #UFchat |
| 11:21 pm | sandrawickham: | @jessrosenbooks Exellent point! Also, when they have “normal” flaws (insecurity, commitment issues etc) #ufchat |
| 11:21 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | S3: the viability of human cjaracters depends, a bit, on the power level of the supernatural elements #ufchat |
| 11:21 pm | jennspiller: | I agree RT @jessrosenbooks: #UFchat paranormal char seems more human when s/he is in conflict w/para abilities. Doesn’t want them. |
| 11:22 pm | inkgypsy: | @Jess_Haines |
| 11:22 pm | leapetra: | @shadowflame1974 so plain old luck saves the day!!! #ufchat |
| 11:22 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat A4: The perceived requirements of genre, for the most part. #ufchat |
| 11:22 pm | shadowflame1974: | @leapetra on occasion |
| 11:22 pm | UF_Chat: | @leapetra aka Deus Ex Machina? #UFchat |
| 11:23 pm | UF_Chat: | @J_GriffinB Appreciate you throwing the ‘perceived’ in there. |
| 11:23 pm | shadowflame1974: | @J_GriffinB so do you think that a UF could have a plain human MC in a magic rich world? #UFchat |
| 11:23 pm | UF_Chat: | Q5: What?s the attraction of reading (and writing) an MC who isn?t completely ?normal?? #UFchat |
| 11:23 pm | Jess_Haines: | #UFchat Howdy, everyone! What’d I miss so far? |
| 11:23 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | S4: the writer might just like writing non-humans #ufchat |
| 11:24 pm | shadowflame1974: | Q5 you can go anywhere with it. Few boundaries. #UFchat |
| 11:24 pm | J_GriffinB: | @shadowflame1974 Indeed. A pariah due to the absence of power. #ufchat |
| 11:24 pm | UF_Chat: | Q6: What is ?normal? anyway as far as human main characters in UF goes? #UFchat |
| 11:25 pm | shadowflame1974: | @J_GriffinB now that is an interesting concept. discrimination of those with no power maybe? #UFchat |
| 11:25 pm | sandrawickham: | @UF_Chat Q5a: For the fun of it! (especially in writing it) LOL. It’s part of the fantasy, the escape. #ufchat |
| 11:25 pm | jennspiller: | re: Q5 Limitless possibilities in the story #UFchat |
| 11:25 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines Hi! (this is @inkgypsy with mod hat on) Seen how most UF MCs not 100%plain vanilla human – looking at why. |
| 11:25 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat A5: Again it’s about getting away from the halitosis and bills of everyday life. #ufchat |
| 11:25 pm | shadowflame1974: | Q6 most of the time more than the normal amount of knowledge, weapon/military/police training, some sort of magic #UFchat |
| 11:26 pm | jennspiller: | Isn’t that kind of like Frodo? He’s tiny, but he’s not magic, right? @shadowflame1974 @J_GriffinB #UFchat |
| 11:26 pm | UF_Chat: | @J_GriffinB You are SO asking for bots! LOL #UFchat |
| 11:26 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Thank you! Hehe, wonder if I’ll be a bit biased considering the MC of my series is human. #UFchat |
| 11:26 pm | UF_Chat: | S: Classic fantasy hero = chosen/predestined. Classic UF MC less so but is still prevalent, often being the 1 person standing… #UFchat |
| 11:26 pm | J_GriffinB: | @shadowflame1974 Yes. Perhaps magic spreads a sickness that only the pariah can deal with. #ufchat |
| 11:26 pm | UF_Chat: | S cont: ? b/w humankind & apocalypse of sorts. Even if MCs not hybrid often magically predestined & given a unique ability or two. #UFchat |
| 11:26 pm | shadowflame1974: | @jennspiller yea but in a UF setting not an epic fantasy. #UFchat |
| 11:27 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines Do chime in! Not predestined or has xtra abilities given/learned? (Your bk is on TBR pile very near top!) #UFchat |
| 11:27 pm | shadowflame1974: | @Jess_Haines completely human? Let’s hear more #UFchat |
| 11:27 pm | jennspiller: | @shadowflame1974 I’m now racking my brain for a UF character that fits the bill. #UFchat |
| 11:27 pm | Jess_Haines: | Q6: I think it depends on the series. Harry Dresden is basically human because he has so many problems and such. He still (cont) #UFchat |
| 11:27 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines I do love you set your series around an actual disaster & didn’t flinch from it. Lots of human quandries in there. #UFchat |
| 11:28 pm | jennspiller: | @Jess_Haines But, Dresden seems to get more and more magical as time goes on. #UFchat |
| 11:28 pm | Jess_Haines: | has to pay rent, get his car fixed, and eat/sleep like the rest of us. He just happens to have extra powers to help him. #UFchat |
| 11:28 pm | J_GriffinB: | @jennspiller But he’s not human. Indeed, their resistance to the corruption of magic is a reason Gandalf has for using Halflings #ufchat |
| 11:28 pm | UF_Chat: | Let me do the statements again before Q 7. #UFchat |
| 11:28 pm | UF_Chat: | S: Classic fantasy hero = chosen/predestined. Classic UF MC less so but is still prevalent, often being the 1 person standing… #UFchat |
| 11:28 pm | Jess_Haines: | @jennspiller True, particularly after CHANGES. But he’s basically human in the early books. #UFchat |
| 11:28 pm | jennspiller: | @Jess_Haines One of the things I like about Dresden is that the extra powers don’t help him with the real life stuff. #UFchat |
| 11:29 pm | UF_Chat: | S cont: ? b/w humankind & apocalypse of sorts. Even if MCs not hybrid often magically predestined & given a unique ability or two. #UFchat |
| 11:29 pm | UF_Chat: | Q7: Why is there a tendency to have the MC be ?special? ? esp when readers say they like MCs to be human like they are? #UFchat |
| 11:29 pm | shadowflame1974: | @jennspiller extra powers aren’t a fix for everything. More often more of a complication #UFchat |
| 11:30 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Thank you! Shiarra is def. not predestined, extra powers, etc. Plain, ol’, vanilla human. She is actually terrified(cont) #UFchat |
| 11:30 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines Liked that he started very human too – even wizarding aspects were a real/obvious struggle-not natural. Kinda miss it. #UFchat |
| 11:30 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat A7 ‘Cause everyone wants to think they too are special. #ufchat |
| 11:30 pm | jennspiller: | @J_GriffinB Thanks for clarification. It’s sacriledge, I know, but I haven’t read LOTR. Too many reasons to go into here. #ufchat |
| 11:30 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat of all things supernatural (aka, “Others” in my ‘verse). #UFchat |
| 11:30 pm | leapetra: | Q7 The “outsider” image. Everyone feels like they are an outsider, The non human MC is an outsider too #ufchat |
| 11:30 pm | starshinedown: | Following the discussion in #UFchat. It’s interesting stuff. If you read, write, or want to write urban fantasy, come read! |
| 11:30 pm | shadowflame1974: | Q7 much harder for writer to even out the field between human and monsters when all the human has to fight with is a stick. #UFchat |
| 11:31 pm | jennspiller: | RT @starshinedown: Following the discussion in #UFchat. It’s interesting stuff. If you read, write, or want to write urban fantasy, come on! |
| 11:31 pm | Jess_Haines: | @jennspiller Exactly, he’s still got problems–just like the rest of us. #UFchat |
| 11:31 pm | UF_Chat: | RT @starshinedown: Following the discussion in #UFchat. It’s interesting stuff. If you read, write, or want to write urban fantasy, come read! |
| 11:31 pm | inkgypsy: | RT @starshinedown: Following the discussion in #UFchat. It’s interesting stuff. If you read, write, or want to write urban fantasy, come read! |
| 11:31 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Yeah, but like anyone else, he’s grown over time. I think that’s what makes him so great to read. #UFchat |
| 11:32 pm | UF_Chat: | Q8: What are the advantages ? story wise – of writing an MC with extra abilities? #UFchat |
| 11:32 pm | Jess_Haines: | RT @starshinedown: Following the discussion in #UFchat. It’s interesting stuff. If you read, write, or want to write urban fantasy, come read! |
| 11:32 pm | shadowflame1974: | writer has to find creative ways to keep plain human alive in a fight. Easy way is to give them special powers #UFchat |
| 11:32 pm | UF_Chat: | Q8a: What are the disadvantages ? story wise – of writing an ?enhanced? MC? #UFchat |
| 11:32 pm | JLCoburn: | A7 What @shadowflame1974 plus, a bit of fantasy writers being more than they are I think #ufchat |
| 11:32 pm | Jess_Haines: | @shadowflame1974 Tell me about it. *g* #UFchat |
| 11:32 pm | J_GriffinB: | @shadowflame1974 I go back to Warlock. Witch hunter uses knowledge of witchery to counter the magic, not quite magic-use for him. #ufchat |
| 11:33 pm | JLCoburn: | A8 They’re less squishy and less prone to getting hurt so you can amp up the excitement and it still be believable. #ufchat |
| 11:33 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Q7: Disadvantage is a risk of alienating your readers due to too much Sue-ishness. #UFchat |
| 11:33 pm | Jess_Haines: | D’oh, meant Q8. #UFchat |
| 11:33 pm | UF_Chat: | Q9: Love interests of the MC are often more than human too. Why do UF MCs tend to have more-than-human partners/lovers? #UFchat |
| 11:33 pm | leapetra: | Q8a that special ability, could end up being a crutch. #ufchat |
| 11:34 pm | Jess_Haines: | Or did I mean 7? Dang it, need more coffee. #UFchat |
| 11:34 pm | J_GriffinB: | A8: An in-built mystery aspect to them? #ufchat |
| 11:34 pm | shadowflame1974: | disadvantage is also putting limits on what your MC can do. can’t give them god powers. Much too easy and unbelievable #UFchat |
| 11:34 pm | JLCoburn: | A8a Well, you have to now account for those abilities, make them consistent. If its a major focus inconsistencies will be amplified. #ufchat |
| 11:34 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat A9: Again, to resist the squish factor posed by super enemies handily. #ufchat |
| 11:35 pm | jennspiller: | @shadowflame1974 True. No god powers. Bigger the power, the bigger the handicap for the power needs to be. #UFchat |
| 11:35 pm | inkgypsy: | @shadowflame1974 Recently read fun book that had to stop as MC was told was turning into a God. I lost interest completely. #UFchat |
| 11:35 pm | UF_Chat: | Q9a: The UF MC lovers are often also more-than-average supernaturals too. (eg alphas, leaders) Why is that? #UFchat |
| 11:35 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | S: imight be interesting to distinguish between those who have ‘professional’ powers (dresden et al) and… #ufchat |
| 11:35 pm | J_GriffinB: | @jennspiller Well you can give them god-like powers, if the god isn’t a omnipotent one. A war god can’t bring rain for the crops. #ufchat |
| 11:36 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | S (cont) …people whos very existance is defined by their powers. #ufchat |
| 11:36 pm | jennspiller: | @inkgypsy Only way I could see “turning into a god” as working would be if it required HUGE sacrifice, and no choice. #UFchat |
| 11:36 pm | UF_Chat: | @J_GriffinB LOL You’re very visceral. Perfect for a UF writer. |
| 11:36 pm | sandrawickham: | @J_GriffinB LOL. If he’s not superhuman she’s going to squish him? (or he, her) I know what you mean, it’s just funneh! |
| 11:36 pm | Jess_Haines: | @jennspiller @shadowflame1974 Can also mean a lack of interest from readers due to no believable opponents. #UFchat |
| 11:36 pm | shadowflame1974: | @jennspiller *nods* #UFchat |
| 11:37 pm | leapetra: | Gods can be fun. if you do them right #ufchat |
| 11:37 pm | UF_Chat: | @jennspiller Yes – but then they come back which kind of says it wasn’t such a big deal after all (this is the UF book BTW) #UFchat |
| 11:37 pm | jennspiller: | @leapetra If the whole world is gods, then I could go there. #ufchat |
| 11:37 pm | hannahnpbowman: | Popping in to #ufchat for a minute: re Q8, superhuman abilities have to be balanced with unusual weaknesses, but that combo can be cool. |
| 11:37 pm | Jess_Haines: | @leapetra I prefer them as antagonists over protags. #UFchat |
| 11:37 pm | JLCoburn: | A9a Again I think its mostly writer influenced. What super MC would want a norm love. Look how many women Batman has gone through. #ufchat |
| 11:37 pm | shadowflame1974: | and hey, the SO has to be able to handle life with an other MC. It’s not easy being special lol #UFchat |
| 11:37 pm | Jess_Haines: | @shadowflame1974 LOL, yeah! #UFchat |
| 11:38 pm | UF_Chat: | @leapetra Think the Greeks/Romans had the right idea – fallible – like superhumans w equal allies/foes to even playing field. #UFchat |
| 11:38 pm | leapetra: | Zeus chased women, Loki was a thorn in Odin’s side, there are so much you can do with gods #ufchat |
| 11:38 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat And yet, I don’t write UF. #ufchat |
| 11:38 pm | UF_Chat: | Q10: Man vs supernatural is one of the classic conflicts. When MC more-than-human what?s human element that?s important for this? #UFchat |
| 11:38 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat And that was what I was getting at with the War god unable to make it rain… unless it’s blood. #ufchat |
| 11:39 pm | shadowflame1974: | @J_GriffinB rubs hands together* oh but I know wheels are turning #UFchat |
| 11:39 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Q10: I think the MC has to have human fallibility in terms of personality or it just doesn’t work. #UFchat |
| 11:39 pm | UF_Chat: | @J_GriffinB Nice! Gods with limits. |
| 11:39 pm | UF_Chat: | @J_GriffinB Maybe you should (write UF) |
| 11:39 pm | GeneDoucette: | really really brief drop-in #ufchat |
| 11:40 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines Personality – you mean decision making? Morals? ….? #UFchat |
| 11:40 pm | shadowflame1974: | @GeneDoucette *waves* #UFchat |
| 11:40 pm | J_GriffinB: | @Jess_Haines Yep. Pull thy head from thy ass, or the love of your life is going to fly away (literally)! #ufchat |
| 11:40 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines (Agree – just trying to keep everyone’s head-wheels turning) #UFchat |
| 11:40 pm | GeneDoucette: | Just to say I have a nonmagical MC with “magical” creatures he has to outlast. (he’s immortal) #ufchat |
| 11:40 pm | UF_Chat: | @GeneDoucette Hi! #UFchat |
| 11:40 pm | GeneDoucette: | I simplified things. The world they inhabit has no magic. #ufchat |
| 11:41 pm | UF_Chat: | @GeneDoucette Immortal is magical though… just sayin’ #UFchat |
| 11:41 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat They can’t be “perfect” in every way. Morally or otherwise, they make mistakes or have to live in the “real” world (cont) #UFchat |
| 11:41 pm | UF_Chat: | @GeneDoucette Well immortal is not 100% human anyway. #UFchat |
| 11:41 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat Thanks but I’m happy in my Policeprocedural/mystery/militarySF non-genre. The agent just submitted my book this last week. #ufchat |
| 11:41 pm | leapetra: | in a story still buried on my hard drive. An atheist gets god like powers. Still won’t accept there are gods #ufchat |
| 11:41 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat and deal with “real” problems, e.g., like what I mentioned about Dresden earlier. #UFchat |
| 11:41 pm | JLCoburn: | Q10 A super MC runs the risk of getting disconnected from the norms. Prime example taken to an extreme would be Dr Manhattan #ufchat |
| 11:41 pm | GeneDoucette: | @UF_Chat No. He’s not. Immortal has no magic in it. the MC is not magic #ufchat |
| 11:41 pm | shadowflame1974: | morals is what is going to complicate the MCs life. the ability to create and carry out a plan will make them succeed. #UFchat |
| 11:41 pm | GeneDoucette: | @UF_Chat and he is defined as completely human #ufchat |
| 11:42 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Look at Rachel Morgan from the Hollows series. She is constantly dealing with the personality conflicts between (cont) #UFchat |
| 11:42 pm | J_GriffinB: | @JLCoburn Thought of the exact same character. #ufchat |
| 11:42 pm | GeneDoucette: | I just wanted to say sometimes redefining the universe for the char is the easiest solution. instead of giving the MC powers, #ufchat |
| 11:42 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @J_GriffinB Good luck #ufchat |
| 11:42 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines Yes! Perfect heroes = yawn-worthy. But some UF I’ve read comes close. Takes more than sassy mouth to be imperfect. #UFchat |
| 11:42 pm | GeneDoucette: | give the “magical” creatures less power. #ufchat |
| 11:43 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat herself, Ivy, and Jenks. They are all powerful beings in their own right, but they still have things to worry about (cont) #UFchat |
| 11:43 pm | leapetra: | in a story still buried on my hard drive. An atheist gets god like powers. Still won’t accept there are gods #ufchat |
| 11:43 pm | jennspiller: | @Jess_Haines @UF_Chat I adore Rachel Morgan. And Ivy, and Jenks. They are great examples of awesome sidekicks. #UFchat |
| 11:43 pm | UF_Chat: | @GeneDoucette Sorry – should have said not human instead of magic. Humans are not immortal – gives him options humans don’t have. #UFchat |
| 11:43 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat like Ivy’s cravings for Rachel’s blood, Jenks ‘s wife growing old/dying, Rachel dealing with the stigma of her (cont) #UFchat |
| 11:43 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat Sassy mouth just makes you want to slap them. Sassy mouth when it’s called for is fun, though. #ufchat |
| 11:43 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat demon mark, etc. OK, I think I’m finally done. |
| 11:44 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines Particularly like Jenks! #UFchat |
| 11:44 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @leapetra Well of course he doesn’t – now he knows for sure #ufchat |
| 11:44 pm | GeneDoucette: | @UF_Chat that’s a fair point, yes. But his survival hinges more on his knowledge. #ufchat |
| 11:44 pm | JLCoburn: | .@J_GriffinB Superman shows if off a bit too in his ‘must protect everyone’ moments, but he was raised while developing his powers #ufchat |
| 11:44 pm | GeneDoucette: | OK gotta run. Out to the mall. Would rather stay… #ufchat |
| 11:44 pm | Jess_Haines: | @jennspiller Totally! |
| 11:44 pm | UF_Chat: | @J_GriffinB Yes – gets boring when is only language they speak but used well = super-fun! #UFchat |
| 11:44 pm | J_GriffinB: | @GeneDoucette A point I was trying to get at with references to Warlock and the witch hunter. #ufchat |
| 11:44 pm | leapetra: | @Ben_Aaronovitch hehe Yup #ufchat |
| 11:44 pm | UF_Chat: | @GeneDoucette *waves* Thanks for popping in! #UFchat |
| 11:45 pm | UF_Chat: | S: UF is closely related to horror in many aspects particularly re ?human survives encounter w monster? plot. #UFchat |
| 11:45 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat I’m a huge fan of Big Al. *g* #UFchat |
| 11:45 pm | JLCoburn: | .@J_GriffinB so it’s not as pronounced. Dr M though was suddenly given godlike power and showed what it could do to human emotions. #ufchat |
| 11:45 pm | UF_Chat: | Q11: There are ways in which the UF MC departs from the horror MC though. What are they? #UFchat |
| 11:45 pm | curlyrbr: | Hi, #ufchat What’s up today? |
| 11:45 pm | GeneDoucette: | @UF_Chat bye…! And I would LOVE to talk abt this more, but… well. Buy Immortal sometime. |
| 11:45 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat Language also needs to be a function of story-If the character is getting verbally abused & gives the antag a slap-down. #ufchat |
| 11:45 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @UF_Chat A11: ass kicking! #UFchat |
| 11:46 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines He’s gotten interesting! Demons usually bore me but he has dimension (punny I know) #UFchat |
| 11:46 pm | Jess_Haines: | @J_GriffinB Could you explain more? Give an example? #UFchat |
| 11:46 pm | J_GriffinB: | It’s all good. #ufchat |
| 11:46 pm | UF_Chat: | @curlyrbr Hiya! Talking about human factor of MCs in UF – MCs usually more than human but why? #UFchat |
| 11:46 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat LOL, yeah. I know exactly what you mean. Cardboard bad guys = no fun. #UFchat |
| 11:47 pm | JLCoburn: | A11 UF MC is allowed a sense of wonder at what he discovers, opposed to Horror for the other guy. #ufchat |
| 11:47 pm | UF_Chat: | @Ben_Aaronovitch Agreed – it aggressively turns tables on monsters (mostly) – not just running/scrabbling to survive. #UFchat |
| 11:47 pm | J_GriffinB: | @Jess_Haines A character that hasn’t a rep for verbal repartee and then trucks out a zinger in response to a situation can be great. #ufchat |
| 11:47 pm | JLCoburn: | A11 Prime example of mentality differences…Sherlock Holmes vs Chuthlu. A lot of them are written in the same historical timespan #ufchat |
| 11:48 pm | shadowflame1974: | @JLCoburn I don’t know about that. some of the things my MC sees leaves nasty taste in her mouth #UFchat |
| 11:48 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | @JLCoburn sense of wonder – good point #ufchat |
| 11:48 pm | J_GriffinB: | I keep thinking of the Turkish giant in Princess Bride. #ufchat |
| 11:48 pm | UF_Chat: | @JLCoburn Stop and smell the slimebag? |
| 11:48 pm | Jess_Haines: | @J_GriffinB Oh! Yeah, I like those! #UFchat |
| 11:48 pm | UF_Chat: | Q11a: Re answers to Q11, is this one of the keys to ?what makes UF ?UF? as opposed to horror or is it more other genre-related? #UFchat |
| 11:48 pm | sandrawickham: | @UF_Chat A11: Horror is about survival, UF usually is about the mystery, the character, as well as surviving #ufchat |
| 11:48 pm | JLCoburn: | A11 but how the MCs react to the world around them is so vastly different. #ufchat |
| 11:48 pm | jennspiller: | @J_GriffinB @Jess_Haines I love reversals in stories. Can be tough to make work, but when they do, they rock. #ufchat |
| 11:49 pm | UF_Chat: | @jennspiller Agreed! Hard to surprise people & make believable but when works is AWESOME. |
| 11:49 pm | Jess_Haines: | @jennspiller @J_GriffinB Mmm, tasty, tasty literary surprises… *g* #UFchat |
| 11:49 pm | JLCoburn: | @shadowflame1974 True, but a bad taste is vastly different from the abject horror the MC in a horror story would feel. #ufchat |
| 11:49 pm | J_GriffinB: | and Iñigo Montya’s you keep saying that- I do not think it means what you think it means. #ufchat |
| 11:49 pm | Preternatural__: | @sandrawickham I agree completely besides the supernatural aspect mystery is one of the key aspects in UF #UFchat |
| 11:50 pm | UF_Chat: | RT @sandrawickham: @UF_Chat A11: Horror is about survival, UF usually is about the mystery, the character, as well as surviving #ufchat |
| 11:50 pm | jennspiller: | @Jess_Haines @UF_Chat I think Rachel has to end up with Al, personally. #UFchat |
| 11:50 pm | UF_Chat: | Q12: When characters we relate to in ‘other among us? stories are in fact ?other? themselves, what does that imply (if anything)? #UFchat |
| 11:50 pm | JLCoburn: | @J_GriffinB Inconceivable! #ufchat |
| 11:50 pm | Jess_Haines: | @jennspiller I’m so down with that. #UFchat |
| 11:51 pm | jennspiller: | @Jess_Haines (But only because Kim has said no to Ivy). #UFchat |
| 11:51 pm | Jess_Haines: | @jennspiller Heh. I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop and Trent to get his comeuppance. #UFchat |
| 11:51 pm | UF_Chat: | @jennspiller That would be interesting. Still feels like set-up is for her to end up with Trent (is that his name? Uber-alpha-Elf?) #UFchat |
| 11:51 pm | JLCoburn: | A12 Good work bringing the character to life for one. #ufchat |
| 11:52 pm | UF_Chat: | S: Some argue that UF puts humans ? who have no real predators in our world ? in a position of prey again. #UFchat |
| 11:52 pm | UF_Chat: | Q13: Is this the reason human MCs are often given ?an edge? ? made more than human themselves? #UFchat |
| 11:52 pm | jennspiller: | @UF_Chat Yes, I think Trent is the set-up. Since the beginning. Childhood friends and all. But, would be cool if Al falls for Rachel #UFchat |
| 11:52 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Heck yeah. That’s the tastiest kind of UF! #UFchat |
| 11:52 pm | jennspiller: | @UF_Chat And then Al might have to do something seriously redeeming, knowing he can’t have her. See? Reversal. #UFchat |
| 11:52 pm | UF_Chat: | Q13a: UF humans rarely plain vanilla?more badass mortals (military traind, xlnt fighters etc). Are plain vanillas not UF-compatible? #UFchat |
| 11:53 pm | Ben_Aaronovitch: | Bed time for me guys – enjoyed discussion – #ufchat |
| 11:53 pm | Jess_Haines: | @jennspiller @UF_Chat I think it would be fab if Al did something to redeem himself and ended up with Rachel. #UFchat |
| 11:53 pm | JLCoburn: | Humans have predators, it’s just most people don’t think of themselves as those predators. #ufchat |
| 11:53 pm | shadowflame1974: | @Ben_Aaronovitch night! #UFchat |
| 11:53 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Q13a: I’d like to think they are. |
| 11:53 pm | sandrawickham: | @Jess_Haines Me too. #ufchat |
| 11:54 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines Like Sookie & Bill – no matter the rest still feels like it’s going to be Bill not Eric, mainly b/c of how Bill written #UFchat |
| 11:54 pm | jennspiller: | Q13 I think anything is possible in the hands of the skilled author #ufchat |
| 11:54 pm | UF_Chat: | @Ben_Aaronovitch Nighty-night – don’t let the monsters under the bed bite. |
| 11:54 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat A13a Like I said, they tend to be victims-in-waiting in the worst of fantasy, but they can be quite a bit more. #ufchat |
| 11:54 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Right, exactly. #UFchat |
| 11:54 pm | jennspiller: | @UF_Chat @Jess_Haines I hope not. I’d love to see Bill crushed under something. And then watch the sun come up. #UFchat |
| 11:55 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Not even taking into account my MC is human, there are books out there with human MCs that are great. Sookie is def. one. #UFchat |
| 11:55 pm | UF_Chat: | @jennspiller Think this is where craft VERY important in UF – to not subconsciously write preferences in – make outcome true mystery #UFchat |
| 11:55 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines Sookie not human tho – telepathy in beginning was almost human but not quite then heritage = def not human. |
| 11:56 pm | UF_Chat: | Q13b: What does this do to the hierarchy of ?the food chain? & where does it put the REAL 100% humans in a UF story? #UFchat |
| 11:56 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Oh, hell. Haven’t read very far into the series. Does it turn out she’s not human after all? #UFchat |
| 11:56 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines Hehe – looking at next questions – they’re relating to Sookie.. LOL #UFchat |
| 11:56 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat Fearless writing like George RR Martin’s Game of Thrones. Reads like an incredible history. Death/maiming happens, dealwit #ufchat |
| 11:56 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat LOL, should I run away to avoid spoilers? #UFchat |
| 11:56 pm | shadowflame1974: | one of these nights when I am NOT writing going to have to sign up for nexflix and do some streaming #UFchat |
| 11:57 pm | UF_Chat: | @Jess_Haines Not massive spoiler so yes, she’s not all human. #UFchat |
| 11:57 pm | Jess_Haines: | @J_GriffinB YES. God I love George RR. #UFchat |
| 11:57 pm | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat D’OH. Kinda kills my argument. Gimme a minute to think of another one. |
| 11:57 pm | UF_Chat: | S: More than 1 UF author cites MC Sookie being an inspiration because of her ?human-woman-ness?. #UFchat |
| 11:57 pm | UF_Chat: | Q14: Sookie is different (at start of series) due to telepathy so what are the human elements so many people are drawn to? #UFchat |
| 11:57 pm | UF_Chat: | Q14a: Are there other popular MCs like Sookie in this way? Why/why not? #UFchat |
| 11:58 pm | Preternatural__: | S14a Plain vanillia humans often become ensign redshirts if they hang out with the paranormals for too long… #UFchat |
| 11:58 pm | UF_Chat: | Q14b: What about male MCs? Are there any that represent human in a way Sookie did at the start? #UFchat |
| 11:58 pm | J_GriffinB: | @UF_Chat A14a Lonely hot girl misunderstood by her small town neighbors, what’s not to like? #ufchat |
| 11:58 pm | jennspiller: | @Preternatural__ LOL, true. Poor redshirt humans. #UFchat |
| 11:58 pm | UF_Chat: | Got a few questions to go – people want to hang around? (We have a guest author next week so can’t expand for Pt 2) #UFchat |
| 11:58 pm | J_GriffinB: | @Preternatural__ Yep. #ufchat |
| 11:58 pm | Jess_Haines: | LOL, redshirt humans? That’s a good way of putting it… #UFchat |
| 11:59 pm | JLCoburn: | @Preternatural__ Or they’re turned into paranormals in the case of almost everything involving vampires and werewolves. #ufchat |
| 11:59 pm | UF_Chat: | @jennspiller Red shirt has COMPLETELY entered the vernacular! (love it) #UFchat |
| 11:59 pm | Jess_Haines: | @JLCoburn Ala Anita Blake? |
| 11:59 pm | J_GriffinB: | @Jess_Haines John Ringo, uses the term a lot. Wrote Princess of Wands. Very different UF, very different for Ringo. #ufchat |
| December 5, 2010 | ||
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| Jess_Haines: | @J_GriffinB I’ll have to pick that one up, thanks for the rec! #UFchat | |
| UF_Chat: | S: Monsters of myth had to (for most part) become more human to carry character arcs, storylines & believable love interests in UF. #UFchat | |
| JLCoburn: | @Jess_Haines Yep…well at least before it became erotica with a splash of UF. #ufchat | |
| UF_Chat: | Q15: How did werewolves change to accommodate the UF genre? What humanizes them so readers sympathize? #UFchat | |
| UF_Chat: | Q15a: How about vampires? How do they differ ?now? to the traditional monster they were? What makes them relatable? #UFchat | |
| J_GriffinB: | @Jess_Haines I know him. My wife keeps bugging me to bug him about writing the sequel. #ufchat | |
| UF_Chat: | Q15b: Zombies ? same question ? how are they more human/relatable now than in myth/legend? #UFchat | |
| 12:01 am | UF_Chat: | Q15c: How about demons ? the hottest MC/love interest right now? What?s changed about demons from legends? #UFchat |
| 12:01 am | UF_Chat: | Q15d: The Fae/fairies are trickier. In many ways are still most alien of all creatures. How do we sympathize with these creatures? #UFchat |
| 12:01 am | Jess_Haines: | I liked how @mark_henry turned his human MC into something unusual. Anyone else read his stuff? #UFchat |
| 12:01 am | leapetra: | Q15a too many writers are making vampires “nice” that has to stop! #ufchat |
| 12:01 am | J_GriffinB: | Gotta go hang lights before dark. See you all next week, if I am free. #ufchat |
| 12:01 am | JLCoburn: | Welp…gotta get the kids up and get ready for a parade. #ufchat |
| 12:02 am | Jess_Haines: | @J_GriffinB You should! |
| 12:02 am | leapetra: | Q15 Werewolves could have the easiest time adapting to human life #ufchat |
| 12:02 am | UF_Chat: | @leapetra Agreed – emo-monsters with no teeth = soapy. NOT kickass-sexy. #UFchat |
| 12:02 am | shadowflame1974: | Weres had to open up to their human side. Vamps had to be more than just bloodsuckers #UFchat |
| 12:02 am | jennspiller: | @leapetra True. Nice Vamps make no sense. Part of the allure is the danger. #ufchat |
| 12:02 am | UF_Chat: | S: Saw twitter question asking how to make troll-like inhuman creature be a believable love interest/have sex sc readers will like. #UFchat |
| 12:02 am | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Ick, just read one like this recently. HATE that. #UFchat |
| 12:03 am | leapetra: | @UF_Chat They are not even vampires anymore. Vampires = fear. Fear of death, sex, etc #ufchat |
| 12:03 am | UF_Chat: | Q15e: If troll-like creature can?t transform/glamour someone is it possible to bring readers on board with a human/troll mating? #UFchat |
| 12:03 am | sandrawickham: | @Jess_Haines Haven’t read Mark’s yet, but really want to. Big fan of his just from twitter, goodreads, Bitten By Books, etc.#ufchat |
| 12:03 am | shadowflame1974: | @UF_Chat anything is possible |
| 12:03 am | UF_Chat: | S: The ultimate story asking what is a monster and what does it mean to be human is Mary Shelley?s Frankenstein. #UFchat |
| 12:03 am | Jess_Haines: | @sandrawickham You should! Read the first two books, they were hysterical (and totally politically incorrect). #UFchat |
| 12:03 am | jennspiller: | @UF_Chat Well, Laurel K has Mercy have sex with the tentacle guy. People kept reading. #UFchat |
| 12:04 am | UF_Chat: | S cont: BTW Frankenstein holds many parallels with Blade Runner ? movie many UF books compared to. (check Google for essays) #UFchat |
| 12:04 am | leapetra: | Q15e depends on the troll, in myths some of them had no trouble taking human wives or husbands #ufchat |
| 12:04 am | UF_Chat: | Q16: If Frankenstein were transplanted into our times, would it ?fit? in UF genre? Why? #UFchat |
| 12:04 am | Delphinios1: | RT @leapetra: Q15 Werewolves could have the easiest time adapting to human life #ufchat |
| 12:04 am | J_GriffinB: | Buhbye #ufchat |
| 12:04 am | UF_Chat: | @jennspiller I didn’t get that far… #UFchat |
| 12:05 am | shadowflame1974: | @J_GriffinB bye #UFchat |
| 12:05 am | UF_Chat: | (Note: Dean Koontz has a multi vol series based on Frankenstein) – 2 questions left! #UFchat |
| 12:05 am | UF_Chat: | @J_GriffinB Bye – thanks for hanging out so long! #UFchat |
| 12:05 am | UF_Chat: | Q17: In the phrase ?it made him seem extremely human? (context up to you) ? what does the word ?human? imply? #UFchat |
| 12:06 am | jennspiller: | @UF_Chat Q16: Frankenstein as uber-scientist whose creation turns on him. More like sci-fi in modern times. #UFchat |
| 12:06 am | UF_Chat: | @jennspiller Design your own… baby-monster? |
| 12:06 am | Jess_Haines: | @UF_Chat Q17: That they have said something or performed some action that makes them sympathetic to humanity or “normal” somehow. #UFchat |
| 12:07 am | jennspiller: | @UF_Chat Really? Koontz? I forgot he existed. It has been forever since I read him. Must look him back up. #UFchat |
| 12:07 am | shadowflame1974: | @jennspiller what if it were science trying to recreate a monster and well the real monsters have to come out and fight it #UFchat |
| 12:07 am | Jess_Haines: | @jennspiller @UF_Chat I haven’t read much Koontz for a while either. Be curious if the new stuff is any good. #UFchat |
| 12:07 am | UF_Chat: | To me ‘human’ (in that sentence) implies – fragile, mortal, vulnerable, lovable, emotive, fallible… #UFchat |
| 12:08 am | UF_Chat: | FINAL BIG Q: What DOES it mean to be human? And how does that impact creating & reading characters in UF? #UFchat |
| 12:08 am | DawnEmbers: | @UF_Chat that’s an excellent question. #UFchat |
| 12:08 am | leapetra: | BIG Q: If I knew the answer. I wouldn’t have to write. #ufchat |
| 12:09 am | UF_chat2: | @Jess_Haines I liked the 1st two in the series but long time between so lost momentum – have to re-read before finishing series now. #UFchat |
| 12:09 am | shadowflame1974: | human= something like the rest of use. emotions, physical appearance, social responses, no matter if they are special or not #UFchat |
| 12:09 am | yobyh: | RT @leapetra: BIG Q: If I knew the answer. I wouldn’t have to write. #ufchat |
| 12:09 am | UF_chat2: | @DawnEmbers Thanks – was whole reason for chat topic really. |
| 12:10 am | UF_chat2: | @leaptra Also fabulous answer! Agreed – that’s one of the big reasons we’re all writing. #UFchat |
| 12:10 am | jennspiller: | We like the idea of human. Hence the Kirk line: “Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most… human.” #ufchat |
| 12:11 am | UF_chat2: | That?s a wrap for #UFchat today! We have a GUEST AUTHOR with us for a Q&A next week! #UFchat |
| 12:11 am | Jess_Haines: | @UF_chat Wow, having a hard time pondering that last question. That’s a biggie. Encompasses so much… #UFchat |
| 12:11 am | jennspiller: | We like what we relate to. “Inhuman” is almost always an insult #ufchat |
| 12:11 am | UF_chat2: | Please RT: UF author Merrie Destefano will be joining us in #UFchat on Dec 11 to discuss her book Afterlife & more! |
| 12:11 am | shadowflame1974: | RT @UF_chat2: Please RT: UF author Merrie Destefano will be joining us in #UFchat on Dec 11 to discuss her book Afterlife & more! #UFchat |
| 12:11 am | Jess_Haines: | RT @UF_chat2: Please RT: UF author Merrie Destefano will be joining us in #UFchat on Dec 11 to discuss her book Afterlife & more! |
| 12:11 am | UF_chat2: | Got a topic you want to chat about? Let me know! (@inkgypsy) I?ll add it to the list & maybe even bump up the chat-date for it. #UFchat |
| 12:11 am | UF_chat2: | Some additional resources on being human in a sea of supernaturals in UF – next: #UFchat |
| 12:12 am | UF_chat2: | Today?s primer for #UFchat early birds was: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat |
| 12:12 am | sandrawickham: | @UF_Chat Big Q: I’ll take a stab-conflicting emotions, strong relationships (good/bad), extremes of emotions, self-doubt (?) LOL! #ufchat |
| 12:12 am | UF_chat2: | Plot patterns and the Urban Fantasy Genre http://bit.ly/enRxeo #UFchat |
| 12:12 am | miranda00writes: | RT @UF_chat2: Please RT: UF author Merrie Destefano will be joining us in #UFchat on Dec 11 to discuss her book Afterlife & more! |
| 12:12 am | UF_chat2: | Urban Fantasy: It?s All the Same! (by Marci Sischo) http://bit.ly/e2nYQ6 #UFchat |
| 12:12 am | UF_chat2: | A Guide to Vampire Fiction with Real Bite http://bit.ly/hw5Eat #UFchat |
| 12:12 am | Wulfie_: | RT @shadowflame1974: RT @UF_chat2: Please RT: UF author Merrie Destefano will be joining us in #UFchat on Dec 11 to discuss her book Afterlife & more! #UFchat |
| 12:12 am | UF_chat2: | The Allure of Urban Fantasy (long & interesting ? discusses monster forms heroines get involved with) http://bit.ly/fYn6sG #UFchat |
| 12:12 am | sandrawickham: | @jennspiller Ooooh. Nice…quotes the captain. LOL #ufchat |
| 12:13 am | UF_chat2: | What Does It Mean To Be Human? Personal/Moral values ? 22 articles http://bit.ly/gOGtLx #UFchat |
| 12:13 am | UF_chat2: | What Does It Mean To Be A Monster? (serious questions & answers on Yahoo) http://yhoo.it/fHvNRt #UFchat |
| 12:13 am | UF_chat2: | #UFchat transcript available on the #UFchat blog in 48hrs-ish, allowing for late comments. Just use the hashtag. |
| 12:13 am | Jess_Haines: | I think being human means having emotion, weakness, vulnerability, etc. There is no such thing as perfection for (cont) |
| 12:14 am | Jess_Haines: | humanity (unless we’re talking Ryan Reynolds.) |
| 12:15 am | UF_chat2: | @Jess_Haines LOL! LOve it. #UFchat |
| 12:15 am | UF_chat2: | Happy silly season! Remember all strange-ers you meet out there are human too ?just like you! (scary, huh?) @UF_Chat lights out. #UFchat |
| 12:15 am | ganymeder: | OMG that is so true. Hello people, theyre MONSTERS! >RT @leapetra Q15a too many writers are making vampires “nice” that has to stop! #ufchat |
| 12:16 am | jennspiller: | @sandrawickham LOl. Not a trekkie per se, but my dog’s name *is* Data. All my dogs have thought they were human. #ufchat |
| 12:16 am | UF_chat2: | @Jess_Haines Thx for coming & participating! Was great to have your input. You can grill @MerrieDestefano next wk if you like. |
| 12:17 am | inkgypsy: | @Jess_Haines In case you’re wondering #UFchat is on almost every Sat. |
| 12:17 am | Jess_Haines: | @UF_chat2 Anytime! Thanks for inviting me! over |
| 12:18 am | shadowflame1974: | Thanks for chatting with us today everyone! Great conversation. #UFchat |
| 12:19 am | sandrawickham: | @shadowflame1974 Thanks, I’m glad you directed me over to #ufchat -I’ll be back!! |
| 12:19 am | UF_chat2: | Awesome chat today everyone! Thanks for hanging out a little longer – next week we have Merrie Destefano as our guest UF author! #UFchat |
| 12:19 am | inkgypsy: | Awesome chat today everyone! Thanks for hanging out a little longer – next week we have Merrie Destefano as our guest UF author! #UFchat |
| 12:20 am | jennspiller: | Great chat. I will definitely be checking in again after the new year. (Traveling next week). #ufchat |
| 12:21 am | inkgypsy: | @Jess_Haines UFchat blog: http://bit.ly/cP9ghr Easy run down of previous topics w links here: http://bit.ly/enKFtP |
| 12:21 am | Wulfie_: | #UFchat Was an interesting discussion. Thanks. |
| 12:21 am | Jess_Haines: | Yeah, this was great fun, guys! Nice chatting with you all! #UFchat |
| 12:22 am | sandrawickham: | Had a great time over at #UFchat and now it’s time to get some serious editing done on my #20spec story! (thanks again @inkgypsy ) |
| 12:23 am | inkgypsy: | @Wulfie_ Thanks for lurking. |
| 12:23 am | inkgypsy: | @sandrawickham You’re very welcome! Hope to see you in the chat again. #UFchat |
| 12:26 am | soniawrite: | I guess I am late huh? #UFchat |
| 12:35 am | inkgypsy: | Amanda Feral – our fave glam zombie – has an erotica gift for us for ‘Kinkmas!’ LOL #UFchat RT @mark_henry http://bit.ly/aVVE5Y |
| 12:36 am | inkgypsy: | @soniawrite Sorry sweetie – we just finished up! But lots to read in transcript! Busy fun chat today. |
| 7:22 am | AnassaRh: | Excellent post on writing superpowers (comics, UF, etc.)! http://bit.ly/hR2yKU #ufchat (Dunno if related to today’s topic or not, but cool.) |
| 8:55 am | AnassaRh: | A2: Is Alexia from the Parasol Protectorate considered human? She’s mortal and all, but no soul? #ufchat |
| 8:57 am | AnassaRh: | A2: For the first 3? 4? books of the Blood series, the MC is human. Has a vamp to do the superpower stuff for her. #ufchat |
| 8:59 am | AnassaRh: | A3: I think in UF ‘human’ means “feels like a human”. Sympathetic chars, chars trying to be human, chars who were raised human, etc. #ufchat |
| 9:01 am | AnassaRh: | It’s not so much a genetic thing as a mental thing. Also, a lot of UF follows MC Discovers World of X pattern. #ufchat |
| 9:02 am | AnassaRh: | Where X can mean “the whole magical underground” or “vamp culture” or “demon summoning ritual” or whatever. Stories about discovery. #ufchat |
| 9:02 am | AnassaRh: | RT @Preternatural__: I think that the struggle is mostly to see that the paranormal doesn’t swallow the human aspect of the characters whole #UFchat |
| 9:10 am | AnassaRh: | A3a: Uncertainty, compassion, flaws and quirks, ability to make mistakes. #ufchat |
| 9:12 am | AnassaRh: | Agreed. RT @jessrosenbooks: #UFchat A paranormal char seems more human when s/he is in conflict w/para abilities. Doesn’t want them. |
| 9:13 am | AnassaRh: | Also when they’re trying to save humans, or are going up against huge odds. A lot’s in the voice too, I think. #ufchat |
| 9:17 am | AnassaRh: | A4: Coolness factor. Writer trying to even the odds a little. Making the world more believable to reader, or accessible to MC. #ufchat |
| 9:18 am | AnassaRh: | Expanding on the accessibility: For plot to work, MC may need knowledge of magic prior to page one, so they get a magic background. #ufchat |
| 9:19 am | AnassaRh: | A5: Again, coolness factor. Also wish fulfillment. If only I had stamina, that sixth sense, that ability to leap small buildings? #ufchat |
| 9:22 am | AnassaRh: | A5 And yes, there are also fewer boundaries and more possibilities for stories with a “special” MC. More room to play, and to escape.#ufchat |
| 9:26 am | AnassaRh: | A6: MCs, human or not, tend to be kickass, action before thinking types, who are always broke and love snark. #ufchat |
| 9:26 am | AnassaRh: | They either know what they’re doing (or think they do), or muddle their way through the plot. #ufchat |
| 9:27 am | AnassaRh: | And @shadowflame brought up a good point. Normal = law enforcement to some degree. #ufchat |
| 9:32 am | AnassaRh: | A7: Again, there’s an element of wish fulfillment and escapism in that tendency, but we’re likely drawing on the trad. model too. #ufchat |
| 9:34 am | AnassaRh: | And humans have to be pretty smart and strong to nearly die during 10 subsequent climax scenes. Easier to pull off with super MCs. #ufchat |
| 9:35 am | AnassaRh: | I think most of my answers apply to multiple questions here. What I just said also applies to Q8. #ufchat |
| 9:37 am | AnassaRh: | A8a: Disadvantages to powers? Having to describe them, come up with new ways to use them, extrapolate how they’ll affect daily life. #ufchat |
| 9:38 am | AnassaRh: | A8a: Also, writer has to fight inclination to make MC more powerful every book. At some point, that wrecks the story. #ufchat |
| 9:44 am | AnassaRh: | A9: To balance things, create foils. The MC will ID better with more-than-human partners than mere humans. Also, coolness factor. |
| 9:46 am | AnassaRh: | @Preternatural__ Heh, no. Canadian night owl whose work conflicted with #ufchat today. |
| 9:51 am | AnassaRh: | A10: MC has to feel human to the reader. See previous comments re: what ‘human’ means. We need someone to root for. #ufchat |
| 9:53 am | AnassaRh: | Nice! RT @leapetra: in a story still buried on my hard drive. An atheist gets god like powers. Still won’t accept there are gods #ufchat |
| 9:58 am | AnassaRh: | A11: UF MC takes charge and generally knows what they’re doing, how they can fight back. Horror MC just runs, can’t stop monster. #ufchat |
| 10:02 am | AnassaRh: | A12 I suppose we could get philosophical and say, “we see ourselves as the Other”, as outcasts and freaks and different. #ufchat |
| 10:03 am | AnassaRh: | Alternatively, it could imply we want powers, to be that person (or type) on some level. Or?just that we want to be strong? #ufchat |
| 10:05 am | AnassaRh: | A13a Vanilla humans can totally be UF MCs! Just harder to fit them into mystery/action stories. See de Lint and similar fantasy. #ufchat |
| 10:06 am | AnassaRh: | And honestly, I’d LOVE more vanilla (or at least non-cop-type) humans in mystery UF! Could make an arc about /learning/ to be badass.#ufchat |
| 10:09 am | AnassaRh: | A14 Have only read Dead Until Dark so: liked her voice, liked her strength, liked her friendliness and average job, liked her morals.#ufchat |
| 10:10 am | AnassaRh: | She felt very much like an everywoman. She takes time for people, cares, grieves, etc. #ufchat |
| 10:12 am | AnassaRh: | Not true. If MC doesn’t /like/ them, they live! RT @Preternatural__: S14a Plain vanilla humans often become ensign redshirts #UFchat |
| 10:14 am | AnassaRh: | A15 I’ve seen the comment a lot that UF werewolves are actually weredogs in terms of pack structure. #ufchat |
| 10:15 am | Preternatural__: | @AnassaRh No, the one’s they like. They’re either redshirts or a chink in their amour that almost gets them killed book in book out #UFchat |
| 10:15 am | AnassaRh: | For any monster, if they’re the MC, they’re trying to deny their heritage in some way, or atone for it. #ufchat |
| 10:17 am | AnassaRh: | @Preternatural__ Agreed. But a human antagonist has a much better change of survival than a friend does. #ufchat |
| 10:17 am | AnassaRh: | I’d like to see more human sidekicks who /don’t/ die at some point. @Preternatural__ #ufchat |
| 10:18 am | AnassaRh: | A15a Vamps, for instance, don’t drink human blood, or try not to, or wangst. They’re basically humans with powers. Not scary. #ufchat |
| 10:18 am | jolantru: | @AnassaRh Perhaps, UF werewolves behave like weredogs because they adapt to city life? #ufchat |
| 10:19 am | AnassaRh: | @jolantru Perhaps, but I’d imagine rural werewolves would also be weredogs, at least in the hands of most writers. #ufchat |
| 10:22 am | jolantru: | @AnassaRh Mmmm. Good point there. #ufchat |
| 10:22 am | AnassaRh: | A15d: We see them from outside, like with Toby Daye (half-fae, doesn’t really /like/ Faerie), or they do something likeable. #ufchat |
| 10:22 am | AnassaRh: | @jolantru Feral weredogs, on the other hand? #ufchat |
| 10:24 am | AnassaRh: | A15e: Don’t see why not, but would take some thinking. Also depends on what troll looks like, and if MC had kinks. #ufchat |
| 10:26 am | AnassaRh: | A16 Dunno if Frankenstein would fit as UF as is. Franky does a lot of running from monster (horror). If monster was the MC ? yeah. #ufchat |
| 10:27 am | jolantru: | @AnassaRh … would be interesting to write, I think… |
| 10:27 am | AnassaRh: | ?And just got plot bunny! Constructed man seeks revenge on creator over series, runs into mysteries everywhere creator flees. #ufchat |
| 10:29 am | AnassaRh: | A17 ‘Human’ refers to mental/personality characteristics. Going back to earlier answers here: quirks and flaws, fallible, weak. #ufchat |
| 10:30 am | AnassaRh: | I think there’s a touch of “made him seem normal” in there too. Phrase never said of Joe Average, always of Extraordinary people. #ufchat |
| 6:09 pm | hannahnpbowman: | @AnassaRh That is a great idea! #ufchat |
| 10:33 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Very excited! Will be chatting with @InkGypsy about AFTERLIFE next Sat. at 3 p.m. on #UFchat. |
| December 6, 2010 | ||
| 1:56 am | inkgypsy: | @MerrieDestefano We have another family thingo I have to leave for shortly but very excited about Sat! AFTERLIFE seriously ROCKS! #UFchat |
| 2:29 am | cvaldezmiller: | @J_GriffinB Ohhh, a #UFchat. Cool. Will be sure to look out for the next one. I didn’t realize they had one every Saturday… |
| 5:23 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Have any questions you’d like to ask about AFTERLIFE? Join me on #UFchat this Saturday, 3 p.m. PST. http://bit.ly/bPEVlz |
| 8:34 pm | LunaLindsey: | RT @seattlewinegal: Absolute best ‘Lost Pet’ sign I have ever seen! http://twitpic.com/3dimyd #urbanfantasy #ufchat |
| 11:07 pm | jimnduncan: | #UFchat folk. Giving away an arc of Deadworld. Simple, yet fun entry at http://bit.ly/e6OePW |
| 11:44 pm | KellyHGay: | Ends tomorrow. |
| December 7, 2010 | ||
| 12:09 am | Tanya1224: | RT @KellyHGay: Ends tomorrow. |
| 9:45 am | inkgypsy: | Best of UF 2010 by Preternatural! |
| 1:25 pm | Preternatural__: | RT @Richard_Kadrey: RT @Preternatural__: KILL THE DEAD was #2 in this year’s Best of 2010 on my site http://bit.ly/dE5sHO #UFChat |
| 6:01 pm | MerrieDestefano: | Join me and @InkGypsy as we discuss themes of death and life in Urban Fantasy. This Saturday on #UFchat, 3 p.m. PST. #AFTERLIFE |
| 6:08 pm | VampBookClub: | RT @MerrieDestefano: Join me and @InkGypsy as we discuss themes of death and life in Urban Fantasy. This Saturday on #UFchat, 3 p.m. PST. #AFTERLIFE |
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END OF TRANSCRIPT FOR DECEMBER 4th, 2010
Nest week we have a special guest author Q&A with Merrie Destefano!
She’s the author of the futuristic UF novel “Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles” and has co-authored the Walter Foster book “How to Draw Zombies” – obviously she’s no stranger to the undead..! ![]()
My mini-review:
You have to read her New Orleans based, futuristic UF “Afterlife” -
beautiful, lush writing with that wonderful sense of immediacy and wit
we love in UF! It’s an ode to the city and to hope and you won’t be able
to put it down till you’re done – a stunning debut!
We’ll be talking about how life and death are handled in urban fantasy next week as well as looking at “Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles” AND….
(drumroll please)
We’re having a giveaway!
A signed copy of Merrie’s novel AFTERLIFE!
You need to participate in next week’s #UFchat to qualify for entry.
Each person asking Merrie a question will be given a number and then the winner will be chosen by random.org immediately after the chat!
Stay tuned to @UF_Chat on Twitter for countdowns and updates.
See you next week and bring your questions so you can be entered to win a signed copy of Merrie’s excellent debut novel “AFTERLIFE”!
Gypsy (@inkgypsy)


