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Transcript March 26th, 2011: Q&A + Giveaway w Laura Bickle (& surprise guest Sparky!) – Fires, Ghosts, Lanterns & Salamanders – the dangerous forces of Laura Bickle’s UF

Today we had special guest @Laura_Bickle, author of UF novels EMBERS, SPARKS & under the name of Alayna Williams, DARK ORACLE & ROGUE ORACLE. We focused on world & characters of EMBERS & SPARKS: MC Anya is an arson investigator with very unique abilities. Throw in ghosts, ghost hunters, fire elementals, dark forces & more in the city of Detroit and you see there’s a lot of potential for things to get explosive!

PLUS we had a TWO book GIVEAWAY today!

 

During Q&A section we had heads-up one of Ms. Bickle’s many interesting characters was going to appear to indulge in a little grilling of his/her own! It turned out Sparky the Fire Salamander (a fire elemental with an attitude, a.k.a. Anya’s protector/familiar) has a talent for typing with talons, for getting in trouble (oh boy does he!) and also for helping with giveaways. ;) Thank you Sparky!

Our lucky winner of two books by our special guest today, chosen by random.org & Sparky was: @michellemacewan CONGRATULATIONS!

And if you don’t already follow @Laura_Bickle and @SparkySalamndr I highly recommend it – much useful fodder for UF readers and writers both! Enjoy. :)

sandrawickham: RT @UF_Chat: #GIVEAWAY today in #UFChat during our very special Q&A with @Laura_Bickle – see here for details! http://bit.ly/dRNbqm 3pmPST/6pmEST
7:30 pm UF_Chat: Want to see author roasted by own character? #UFchat TODAY has ringside seats! Ask character a Q & be entered to 2 bk #giveaway!
7:30 pm inkgypsy: Want to see author roasted by own character? #UFchat TODAY has ringside seats! Ask character a Q & be entered to 2 bk #giveaway!
7:30 pm tordotUF: RT @UF_Chat: Want to see author roasted by own character? #UFchat TODAY has ringside seats! Ask character a Q & be entered to 2 bk #giveaway!
7:31 pm BeasBookNook: RT @UF_Chat: Want to see author roasted by own character? #UFchat TODAY has ringside seats! Ask character a Q & be entered to 2 bk #giveaway!
7:31 pm shadowflame1974: RT @UF_Chat: Want to see author roasted by own character? #UFchat TODAY has ringside seats! Ask character a Q & be entered to 2 bk #giveaway!
8:04 pm UF_Chat: 2 hrs to #UFchat! Guest author @Laura_Bickle heats things up w Q&A, 2 bk #giveaway & a mystery guest to grill her! 3pmPT/6pmET
8:04 pm inkgypsy: 2 hrs to #UFchat! Guest author @Laura_Bickle heats things up w Q&A, 2 bk #giveaway & a mystery guest to grill her! 3pmPT/6pmET
8:09 pm scootercarlyle: Writers and Small Town Cliches http://bit.ly/hQlcFN #fiction #writing #UFchat #writersroad
9:00 pm inkgypsy: In 1 hr: Fiery beings, investigating mediums, ghosts on the run & a TWO BOOK #giveaway w @Laura_Bickle guesting in #UFchat today! 3pmPT
9:00 pm UF_Chat: In 1 hr: Fiery beings, investigating mediums, ghosts on the run & a TWO BOOK #giveaway w @Laura_Bickle guesting in #UFchat today! 3pmPT
9:15 pm shadowflame1974: RT @UF_Chat: In 1 hr: Fiery beings, investigating mediums, ghosts on the run & a TWO BOOK #giveaway w @Laura_Bickle guesting in #UFchat today! 3pmPT
9:16 pm Laura_Bickle: @marcellaburnard Awww! Thanks! @Laura_Bickle guesting in #UFchat today! 3pmPT Just follow #UFChat to play along!
9:18 pm marcellaburnard: Great author, good friend and fellow Word Whore! @Laura_Bickle guesting in #UFchat today! 3pmPT Just follow #UFChat to play along!?
9:33 pm UF_Chat: RT @marcellaburnard: Great author, good friend and fellow Word Whore! @Laura_Bickle guesting in #UFchat today! 3pmPT Just follow #UFChat to play along!?
9:33 pm inkgypsy: RT @marcellaburnard: Great author, good friend and fellow Word Whore! @Laura_Bickle guesting in #UFchat today! 3pmPT Just follow #UFChat to play along!?
9:40 pm inkgypsy: 20 MINS: #giveaway Fires, Ghosts, Lanterns & Salamanders ? dangerous forces of @Laura_Bickle?s UF in today’s #UFchat @3pmPT/6pmET #GIVEAWAY!
9:41 pm shadowflame1974: RT @inkgypsy: 20 MINS: Fires, Ghosts, Lanterns & Salamanders dangerous forces of @Laura_Bickle?s UF in today’s #UFchat @3pmPT/6pmET
9:44 pm tadbo: RT @inkgypsy: 20 MINS: #giveaway Fires, Ghosts, Lanterns & Salamanders ? dangerous forces of @Laura_Bickle?s UF in #UFchat @3pmPT/6pmET
9:50 pm inkgypsy: PRIMER for #UFchat early birds: EMBERS by @Laura_Bickle http://bit.ly/hruaGI
9:50 pm UF_Chat: PRIMER for #UFchat early birds: EMBERS by @Laura_Bickle http://bit.ly/hruaGI
9:50 pm shadowflame1974: 10 minutes till go time! Today’s #UFchat with @Laura_Bickle
9:51 pm inkgypsy: PRIMER #2 for #UFchat early birds: playing with fire today in #UFchat! http://bit.ly/dRNbqm #UFchat
9:51 pm UF_Chat: PRIMER #2 for #UFchat early birds: playing with fire today in #UFchat! http://bit.ly/dRNbqm #UFchat
9:57 pm shadowflame1974: so who is our mystery guest going to be today? #UFchat with @Laura_Bickle in just a few minutes!
9:58 pm UF_Chat: Pulling on my extreme protection & hazmat suit with my boots & #UFchat mod helmet! I’m told our mystery guest causes magical mayhem! #UFchat
9:58 pm inkgypsy: Pulling on my extreme protection & hazmat suit with my boots & #UFchat mod helmet! I’m told our mystery guest causes magical mayhem! #UFchat
9:58 pm tordotUF: @UF_Chat can we start guessing the identity of the mystery guest? #ufchat
10:00 pm UF_Chat: @tordotUF For sure! But I won’t know for sure until you know, though I have some ideas… ;) #UFchat
10:00 pm shadowflame1974: *Plays MONSTER by Skillet for intro* #UFchat
10:01 pm UF_Chat: @shadowflame1974 Linkage! (please) LOL #UFchat
10:01 pm tordotUF: @UF_Chat I’m guessing Sparky #ufchat
10:01 pm UF_Chat: 3, 2, 1.. we’re now LIVE with today’s special #UFCHAT – there’s smoke, there’s fire, there are hazards & a hot guest today!
10:01 pm KerrySchafer: RT @Laura_Bickle: @marcellaburnard Awww! Thanks! @Laura_Bickle guesting in #UFchat today! 3pmPT Just follow #UFChat to play along!
10:01 pm UF_Chat: Today: special guest @Laura_Bickle author of UF novels EMBERS, SPARKS & under name Alayna Williams, DARK ORACLE & ROGUE ORACLE #UFchat
10:02 pm UF_Chat: We?ll be focusing on world & characters of EMBERS & SPARKS: arson investigator w unique abilities, ghosts, fire elementals & more! #UFchat
10:02 pm UF_Chat: PLUS we have a TWO book #GIVEAWAY today! Stay tuned for the guidelines to be entered: #UFchat
10:02 pm UF_Chat: During Q&A section we?ve had heads-up one of Ms. Bickle?s characters will appear to indulge in a little grilling of his/her own! #UFChat
10:02 pm UF_Chat: When mystery guest appears, questions addressed to him/her (character) will be entered into our giveaway! #UFchat
10:02 pm UF_Chat: Books up for grabs: EMBERS & ROGUE ORACLE! Both by @Laura_Bickle (also writing as Alayna Williams) Covers: http://bit.ly/dRNbqm #UFchat
10:03 pm UF_Chat: Let?s warm up the seat a bit before we turn the heat on @Laura_Bickle, altho she?s welcome to join in Q?s early. ;) #UFchat
10:03 pm UF_Chat: S: EMBERS/SPARKS are unique in UF novel world w forces of fire, ghosts and protective (&otherworldly) salamanders. #UFchat
10:03 pm UF_Chat: Q1: How have you seen fire used in the UF genre and was it a controlled force or a naturally occurring phenomena? #UFchat
10:03 pm shadowflame1974: heheheh Monster by Skillet http://youtu.be/1mjlM_RnsVE #UFchat
10:04 pm Laura_Bickle: Hee…I love “Monster.” Never heard it before! #UFchat
10:05 pm Laura_Bickle: Fire is one of those truly elemental forces that seems to have a mind of its own. #UFchat #UFChat
10:05 pm UF_Chat: Did I stump everyone on the very first question?? OOps – next! #UFchat
10:06 pm UF_Chat: Q2: What potential do you see for using fire as a force in UF? #UFchat
10:06 pm shadowflame1974: I thought it was completely appropriate as it came up on my playlist at that time. #UFChat
10:06 pm tordotUF: The UF Chat is on @Laura_Bickle author of UF novels EMBERS, SPARKS & under Alayna Williams, DARK ORACLE & ROGUE ORACLE use hashtag #UFchat
10:06 pm shadowflame1974: #UFchat Fire can be representative of a lot of things. Destruction, passion, rebirth,
10:07 pm ladytechie: A1. I am combing my memory for fire as a force. Fire Elemental in Jennifer Estep’s series. It is a tool/weapon #UFChat
10:07 pm byharryconnolly: RT @tordotUF: The UF Chat is on @Laura_Bickle author of UF novels EMBERS, SPARKS & under Alayna Williams, DARK ORACLE & ROGUE ORACLE use hashtag #UFchat
10:07 pm inkgypsy: Fire is obviously hugely & suddenly destructive in natural world but we use it every day too. Think UF could mirror that. #UFchat
10:08 pm Syrten: Oh! I have an answer to Q1. @NicolePeeler uses fire in first and second book, generated by ifrit. They’re made of fire. #UFchat
10:08 pm UF_Chat: @ladytechie Ooh yes! That’s pretty interesting – love that series. :) #UFchat
10:08 pm inkgypsy: @Syrten Ifrit! woot! Magical beings using fire are everywhere in mythology/folklore – great to see UF starting to use those! #UFchat
10:09 pm Laura_Bickle: I wonder if we shy away from fire more, because of that whole pesky civilization thing? #UFchat
10:09 pm UF_Chat: Q2a: How might fire be used against OR ?FOR? typical UF creatures? (weres, vamps, ghosts, etc) #UFchat
10:09 pm shadowflame1974: There are dragons, salamanders, phoenix along with other creatures from legend that use fire. #UFchat
10:09 pm ladytechie: It always seems like a negative force. One that is destructive instead of a tool. #UFChat
10:10 pm shadowflame1974: #UFchat flaming zombies anyone? lol
10:10 pm ladytechie: Discovery of Witches, fire element comes in, no spoiler given. #UFChat
10:10 pm inkgypsy: @ladytechie Paradox really as they say we never would have crawled out of the caves without it! (love the paradox) #UFchat
10:10 pm inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 Heh! (re flaming zombies) #UFchat
10:11 pm UF_Chat: Q3: What are some connections between ghosts and fire in folklore and myth? (hint: the Xmas/Yule #UFchat touched on this!) #UFchat
10:11 pm ladytechie: Yes, all about the user @inkgypsy #UFChat
10:11 pm last_lines: popping in #ufchat
10:12 pm Syrten: Hmmm… Burning down demonically haunted houses? Like in Ghost Hunt #UFchat
10:12 pm UF_Chat: Q4: What ?creatures of fire? exist in myth and folklore that you know of – both popular and the more obscure? #UFchat
10:12 pm UF_Chat: @shadowflame1974 I see you read my mind there! Nice list – care to expand? #UFchat
10:14 pm UF_Chat: @Syrten Who wrote that one? Not familiar with it *slaps own wrist* #UFchat
10:14 pm michellemacewan: Hi, not long up here in OZ, is it OK to join in? #UFchat
10:14 pm pauljessup: @UF_Chat Salamander, phoenix #UFchat
10:14 pm UF_Chat: Are we having connection issues today? Lot of tweets then big gaps.. odd. #UFchat
10:15 pm UF_Chat: @michellemacewan Of course! Welcome. :) We just started – group warm up questions before guest gets grilled. ;) #UFchat
10:15 pm ladytechie: @pauljessup Phoenix! That’s good! I can’t think of a thing but elemental witches! #UFChat
10:15 pm UF_Chat: Q5: Ghosts also play prominent role in Laura?s books. What types of characters have a lot of interaction/influence on ghosts? #UFchat
10:15 pm ladytechie: No, it is a brain fart on my part. Grading finals most of the day and no brain power. #UFChat
10:16 pm ladytechie: A5. Mediums #UFChat
10:16 pm UF_Chat: RE Q5: Also think jobs that ave interaction with ghosts! #UFchat
10:16 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Sorry, I’d be chatting, but I’m working on a project that I fell behind on. =/ #UFchat
10:16 pm Syrten: @UF_Chat It’s an anime/manga/light novel… Light novel by Fuyumi Oni. Manga by Shiho Inada. #UFchat
10:17 pm tordotUF: @UF_Chat Reapers. Seeing a lot of those lately #ufchat
10:17 pm inkgypsy: @Syrten I will have to look it up – much manga subject matter overlaps with UF. :) #UFchat
10:17 pm UF_Chat: Q6: Laura?s MC is Anya – an arson investigator and a special type of medium. How has UF used mediums to date? #UFchat
10:17 pm michellemacewan: Fire is transformation ( late point.. sorry ) #UFchat
10:18 pm shadowflame1974: #UFchat firebird, will-o-whisp, Kitsume, along with other animals such as cats being “fire” related. and 3 of the zodiac signs
10:18 pm UF_Chat: Q6a: What ?special forces?/jobs would you LIKE to see explored/used in a UF novel? Why? #UFchat
10:18 pm michellemacewan: @UF_Chat Great! #UFchat
10:18 pm UF_Chat: @shadowflame1974 yay! There’s so much potential its almost odd we don’t see fire-based stories more in UF! #UFchat
10:18 pm ladytechie: A6. I like the vampires used as weapons idea I’ve seen. #UFChat
10:19 pm UF_Chat: Q7: Imagine a firefighter in a UF world. What might be some things they would be up against? #UFchat
10:19 pm michellemacewan: Ghosts pick up on the sensitive – the character who is sensitive will always be open to contact with otherworldly beings #UFchat
10:19 pm Syrten: @inkgypsy Yep, a great source of UF while being different than what’s usually found here. Although lots of hereditary vampires, lol #UFchat
10:20 pm ladytechie: A6 I like the idea of special ops with different elemental control powers. #UFChat
10:20 pm inkgypsy: @Syrten Hereditary vampires – heh. That’s a whole other kind of problem! #UFchat
10:20 pm UF_Chat: RT @ladytechie: A6 I like the idea of special ops with different elemental control powers. #UFChat
10:20 pm michellemacewan: @UF_Chat creatures that are able to draw from the elements? #UFchat
10:20 pm shadowflame1974: Q6a #UFchat I’d like to see Pyro’s as firefighters. To fight fire use fire, or at least intimately understand it
10:21 pm UF_Chat: Q8: Anya?s companion/familiar is a fire salamander elemental. How might this be very useful to a UF MC? #UFchat
10:21 pm Syrten: Q7 Pyrokinetics, or people who can start fires with their mind. #UFChat
10:21 pm UF_Chat: Q8a: How might having a fire elemental companion be a pain in the proverbial? #UFchat
10:21 pm UF_Chat: Q8b: What things might bother or be a challenge to a fire salamander? #UFchat
10:22 pm ladytechie: A8. How does one heal/hurt a fire salamander? #UFChat
10:23 pm UF_Chat: @ladytechie That is an excellent question – you’ll have to roast our guest over that one! #UFchat
10:23 pm michellemacewan: @UF_Chat 8b On a psychic level you could hurt it – losing connection, for eg #UFchat
10:23 pm shadowflame1974: #UFchat Q8a I wouldn’t want to take the elemental to the gas station.
10:23 pm UF_Chat: Speaking of guests: do we have our hottie author @Laura_Bickle in the house? #UFchat
10:23 pm dduane: (just wandering through) #UFChat
10:23 pm Laura_Bickle: Thanks so much for having me! I?m so excited to get the chance to chat. #UFchat
10:23 pm UF_Chat: She’s here!! It?s now time to put our special guest @Laura_Bickle in the hot seat. ;) #UFchat
10:24 pm UF_Chat: Welcome @Laura_Bickle! Thank you SO much for joining us today: expertise, mystery guest character & free books! Yum! #UFchat
10:24 pm UF_Chat: Questions fr mod 1st (all welcome to comment!) & when mystery guest appears, floor opens for Q?s to Laura AND esp. character! #UFchat
10:24 pm UF_Chat: (Note: pls ?@? Laura w Q?s. Same for character – Twitter name revealed when appears! Pls use hashtag so all can follow) #UFchat
10:24 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Your latest release = ROGUE ORACLE (2nd/series), written under Alayna Williams & getting great reviews! Congrats!! #UFChat
10:24 pm Laura_Bickle: Thanks very much. I?m super excited?though timing for that book turned out to be odd for a story about Chernobyl. ;-S #UFchat
10:25 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Can you expand on the Chernobyl aspect very quickly – though we’ll be focusing on your other series mainly today? #UFchat
10:26 pm Laura_Bickle: Sure. In ROGUE ORACLE, my Tarot-wielding protagonist and federal agent partner are on the trail of a Chernobyl survivor selling…#UFchat
10:26 pm Laura_Bickle: …nuclear secrets he’s culled from ex-spies on the international black market.#UFchat
10:27 pm ladytechie: @Laura_Bickle I’m from Detroit and grew up there so I have to ask why you chose Detroit as the backdrop for your story? #UFChat
10:27 pm UF_Chat: This author doesn’t mess around folks! Goes for big stories w lots of potential for big bad trouble! & that includes characters! ;) #UFchat
10:27 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Do you want to take @ladytechies question? I’ll wait – I’m interested too! :) #Ufchat
10:28 pm Laura_Bickle: …like the Detroit Salt Mine, DIA, and Michigan Central Station. So many places with their own gravitational pull. #UFchat
10:29 pm Laura_Bickle: @ladytechie My husband’s from Detroit. He played tour guide for me, showed me..#UFchat
10:29 pm UF_Chat: RT @ladytechie My husband is from Detroit. He played tour guide for me…showed me some very neat magical places…#UFchat
10:29 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q9: Could you comment on that series? How is diff from Anya K series & why did you decide to release under diff name? #UFchat
10:29 pm Laura_Bickle: @ladytechie Sorry for the lost flow. But there are so many magical places there that I fell in love with. #UFchat
10:30 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle That series being the ORACLE series – sorry we jumped into SPARK/EMBERS very quickly there. #UFchat
10:30 pm Laura_Bickle: Tara Sheridan is a criminal profiler who uses Tarot cards to solve crimes. It?s a mashup of science and magic?#UFchat
10:30 pm Laura_Bickle: ?appealing to fans of X-Files and Fringe. Fun with dark matter, radiation, oracles, and conspiracies?#UFchat
10:31 pm Laura_Bickle: ?Since EMBERS and DARK ORACLE were released close together, publisher thought it would be confusing for readers. “Alayna” hatched #UFchat
10:31 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q9a: Both series focus on criminal investigators, s/thing which you’re qualified to write! Can you tell us about that? #UFchat
10:32 pm Laura_Bickle: I?ve worked in and around criminal justice for more than ten years, and have an MA in criminology. #UFchat
10:32 pm Laura_Bickle: Was fun to finally apply the trivia bits I?d learned? #UFchat ?but I also learned a lot of new things
10:32 pm Laura_Bickle: Arson investigation, for instance, was all new to me. Fun research – research is the best part of the work. #UFchat
10:32 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q9b: Would U pls explain briefly how it is to write 2 UF series under 2 diff. names? (advant./disadv.) #UFchat
10:33 pm Laura_Bickle: I don?t know that I would do that again. It was originally a decision to keep the series distinct, with alternate release dates?#UFchat
10:33 pm Laura_Bickle: Didn?t want to confuse the readers?#UFchat ?but I think that it can get a bit cumbersome.
10:33 pm Laura_Bickle: And hard to build an audience when you?re scattered. #UFchat
10:34 pm inkgypsy: Well we’ll help you. And spread the word of your awesome! :) @Laura_Bickle #UFChat (Plus being a hottie has to help! lol)
10:34 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q10: When did you decide Urban Fantasy was the genre for you? What is the draw for you as a writer? #UFchat
10:35 pm Laura_Bickle: Aww…thanks! *blushes* #UFchat
10:35 pm Laura_Bickle: I love that the field is wide open. There are no real ?rules? as far as an HEA ending or limits on the magic or technology?#UFchat
10:36 pm Laura_Bickle: ?and I like that the magic is grounded in reality. Makes it very believable for me. #UFchat
10:36 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q10a: Anything about your background in criminal justice that spurred U toward UF or fired imagination (so to speak)? #UFchat
10:36 pm Laura_Bickle: I did get sorta burnt out on CJ. I?m now working in a library, actually. It?s a tough field… #UFchat
10:37 pm Laura_Bickle: And anybody who works in it knows that there are stories you just can?t tell?#UFchat
10:37 pm Laura_Bickle: ?and you can?t save or fix the real world. But I sure can change and fix the worlds I imagine. #UFchat
10:37 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q11: Two words I see repeatedly re your work: ?unique? & ?exciting?. (Congrats!) What are readers responding to? #UFchat
10:37 pm leapetra: sorry really late, house guests would not leave #ufchat
10:38 pm Laura_Bickle: That?s really thrilling to read that. I try to work with out of the box ideas. Stuff I haven?t seen before, experiment? #Ufchat
10:38 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra That can be so bothersome! lol – glad you could join us today! #UFchat
10:38 pm SullivanMcPig: The real fans will find you no matter what name you use ;-) @Laura_Bickle And hard to build an audience when you?re scattered. #UFchat
10:38 pm GraylinFox: RT @UF_Chat: 3, 2, 1.. we’re now LIVE with today’s special #UFCHAT – there’s smoke, there’s fire, there are hazards & a hot guest today!
10:38 pm Laura_Bickle: ??cause I want new territory of my own, to learn new things. LOL. #Ufchat
10:38 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q11a: Why do you think aspects such as a fire salamander haven?t been tackled in the UF genre much if at all? #UFchat
10:38 pm SparkySalamandr: Hey. You. HUMAN. Where the hell is the hair dryer? #Ufchat
10:39 pm GraylinFox: RT @UF_Chat: Books up for grabs: EMBERS & ROGUE ORACLE! Both by @Laura_Bickle (also writing as Alayna Williams) Covers: http://bit.ly/dRNbqm #UFchat
10:39 pm Laura_Bickle: Awww. Jeesh. Sorry, guys. Salamander at the keyboard. What do you want with the hair dryer? #Ufchat
10:39 pm ladytechie: @SparkySalamandr Aww! How cool are you? #UFChat
10:39 pm shadowflame1974: RT @SparkySalamandr: Hey. You. HUMAN. Where the hell is the hair dryer? #Ufchat >>> EEP!
10:39 pm UF_Chat: Um – hang on – did we just have another guest appear?? @Laura_Bickle can you confirm – is he “yours”? #UFchat
10:40 pm GraylinFox: RT @UF_Chat: Q6a: What ?special forces?/jobs would you LIKE to see explored/used in a UF novel? Why? #UFchat
10:40 pm Laura_Bickle: Fire salamanders haven?t gotten much press since Paracelsus? time. This is why. #Ufchat
10:40 pm SparkySalamandr: I?m cold. Spring hasn?t sprung here. I wanna snuggle with the hair dryer. *lashes tail* #Ufchat
10:40 pm shadowflame1974: Oh the um, attitude humh? #UFchat
10:40 pm GraylinFox: RT @UF_Chat: Q4: What ?creatures of fire? exist in myth and folklore that you know of – both popular and the more obscure? #UFchat
10:40 pm UF_Chat: This is it folks – our mystery guest is SPARKY the FIRE SALAMANDER! #UFchat
10:40 pm UF_Chat: QUICK! Ask @SparkySalamandr a question NOW to be entered into the 2 bk #giveaway! #UFchat
10:40 pm shadowflame1974: @SparkySalamandr @Inkgypsy has a nice warm coffee pot #UFchat
10:41 pm Laura_Bickle: Sigh. Yes. Sparky is ALL MINE. #ufchat
10:41 pm Abigail_ATUF: RT @UF_Chat: QUICK! Ask @SparkySalamandr a question NOW to be entered into the 2 bk #giveaway! #UFchat
10:41 pm tordotUF: RT @UF_Chat: QUICK! Ask @SparkySalamandr a question NOW to be entered into the 2 bk #giveaway! #UFchat
10:41 pm michellemacewan: @Laura_Bickle@SparkySalamandr pop over here Sparky, we have 2 fires going this morning! #UFchat
10:41 pm Laura_Bickle: But?damn it, Sparky! You?re allowed to sleep in the clothes dryer as long as you don?t allow the cats in there. #Ufchat
10:41 pm NancyMcGregor: RT @UF_Chat: QUICK! Ask @SparkySalamandr a question NOW to be entered into the 2 bk #giveaway! #UFchat
10:42 pm UF_Chat: #giveaway #giveaway #giveaway #giveaway!! Open for entries now – talk to our surprise fiery guest & be entered for free books! #UFchat
10:42 pm GraylinFox: RT @UF_Chat: QUICK! Ask @SparkySalamandr a question NOW to be entered into the 2 bk #giveaway! #UFchat
10:42 pm DaniMonsch: @Laura_Bickle looking back, would you still use 2 separate names, or would you keep to the one? #UFchat
10:42 pm inkgypsy: @Laura_Bickle I have to ask – do you ever call him Spanky by mistake? (Or not so much by mistake?) :P #UFchat
10:42 pm SparkySalamandr: @michellemacewan At last, a human with some sense! My human is FREEZING me. #ufchat
10:42 pm ladytechie: @SparkySalamandr What do you like most about your job? #UFChat
10:43 pm UF_Chat: @SparkySalamandr How does one ?keep a fire salamander on a leash?? (ie. How/why can Anya make you ?behave?)? #UFchat
10:43 pm leapetra: I’m not sure what to ask a fire elemental… #ufchat
10:43 pm michellemacewan: @SparkySalamandr Oh NO! We have a lovely wood fired stove here.. warms the water too.. #UFchat
10:44 pm SparkySalamandr: @ladytechie Roasting marshmallows and sleeping in the clothes dryer. Best of times! #ufchat
10:44 pm shadowflame1974: @SparkySalamandr I have the heaters going today. I agree warm is better. #UFchat
10:44 pm inkgypsy: @SparkySalamandr What do you think of firefighters in general? #UFchat
10:45 pm michellemacewan: @SparkySalamandr How do you entice your food into the hairdryer Sparky? #UFchat
10:46 pm SparkySalamandr: Feh. I?m bound to a necklace that Anya’s mom gave her. I can?t wander too far away from it. Good bling to take naps in. #ufchat
10:46 pm shadowflame1974: @SparkySalamandr so what exactly does a familiar like you do? #UFchat
10:46 pm Laura_Bickle: See what I have to deal with? This is why he?s not allowed to speak in the books. #Ufchat
10:46 pm leapetra: @SparkySalamandr Davinci said Salamanders had no stomachs, I find that hard to believe, what food do you like? #ufchat
10:47 pm Laura_Bickle: @shadowflame1974 *puffs up speckled chest* I gnaw on ghosts. I’m a darn good protector. #ufchat
10:47 pm SparkySalamandr: *puffs up speckled chest* I gnaw on ghosts. I’m a darn good protector. #ufchat
10:47 pm michellemacewan: @SparkySalamandr Finally! freedom of speech for Sparky.. #UFchat
10:47 pm shadowflame1974: @SparkySalamandr ohhh sounds like fun. :D #UFchat
10:47 pm SparkySalamandr: @leapetra Ghosts. I love to nom on some ghosts. And cell phones. And pretty much anything electronic. #ufchat
10:48 pm inkgypsy: @SparkySalamandr What?s your favorite toy? #UFchat
10:48 pm SparkySalamandr: The addiction to chewing on electronic devices is why Anya can’t have nice things. She says. #UFchat
10:48 pm shadowflame1974: @SparkySalamandr oh? so you disrupt electromagnet fields too? #UFchat
10:48 pm Syrten: @SparkySalamandr How can you eat ghosts? Aren’t they a bit incorporeal and unnommable? #UFchat
10:49 pm SparkySalamandr: @inkgypsy My plush Glo-Worm. *blushes* It lights up when I snuggle with it. #Ufchat
10:49 pm SparkySalamandr: @Syrten I’m also pretty incorporeal, myself. Only Anya can see me. And cats… #ufchat
10:49 pm michellemacewan: @SparkySalamandr Hmm feeding off the energy .. yum that sounds good Sparky.. does it increase your powers? #UFchat
10:50 pm SparkySalamandr: …when cats stare at the ceiling and chase nothing, it’s usually one of us salamanders. #ufchat
10:50 pm Laura_Bickle: @michellemacewan I feel pretty damn sleepy after a big ‘ol ghost snack. Time for a nap. #ufchat
10:51 pm SparkySalamandr: @syrten I usually feel pretty sleepy after a big ‘ol ghost snack. Time for a nap. #ufchat
10:51 pm michellemacewan: @Laura_Bickle ok, so can I ask you a question please Laura? #UFchat
10:51 pm inkgypsy: We know it was Anya?s mother that gave you to her, tho know v little about mother. @SparkySalamandr What do you remember re her? #UFchat
10:52 pm SparkySalamandr: @shadowflame1974 Oh, yes.I also set off sprinkler systems…like at the crime lab (tucks tail between legs) #ufchat
10:52 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle I think Sparky has taken over the chat! Do you think he’d mind if I asked you some more questions? #UFchat
10:52 pm SparkySalamandr: @inkgypsy Anya?s mom was a lovely gal. But she dabbled in some magical stuff she shouldn?t. Had terrible taste in men. Sigh… #ufchat
10:53 pm Laura_Bickle: Fire away. I’m sitting on the little twerp so he doesn’t keep typing! #ufchat
10:53 pm UF_Chat: @michellemacewan PLEASE! Sparky is stealing the show (although I admit I wish our chat was going to be MUCH longer now – FUN!) #UFchat
10:53 pm michellemacewan: @Laura_Bickle Can you talk more about your comment about ‘grounding the magic in reality’ ? #UFchat
10:54 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q12: Wow – so that was Sparky! Does he surprise you as much as he surprises the readers (& twitter followers?) #UFchat
10:55 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Due to time disappearing (yikes!) I’m going to skip questions here and there – wish we had time for them all! #UFchat
10:55 pm Laura_Bickle: @michellemacewan I try to keep the research details as accurate as possible, so that the world feels real to me.. #ufchat
10:56 pm Laura_Bickle: …and so that the magical elements are more believable (I hope!). #UFchat
10:56 pm Laura_Bickle: Sparky is a pain in the ass. I adore him, but his speckled self occupies too much real estate in my head. #Ufchat
10:57 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q14: Can you explain more about the ghost hunting? What is it they do? Rescue people from ghosts or ghosts from world? #UFchat
10:57 pm Laura_Bickle: A bit of both. Ghosts can be very malicious in my world, and are becoming more so. Anya’s eccentric group of ghost hunters has… #UFChat
10:58 pm Laura_Bickle: …their hands full putting out metaphysical fires. They believe it’s a symptom of general unrest, some darkness moving in. #UFchat
10:58 pm UF_Chat: S: One of my favorite places in series is bar where the ghost investigators meet, the Devil?s Bathtub, complete with its history! #UFchat
10:58 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q15: Do you remember where that idea came from? What about the name? Why a bathtub?! #UFchat
10:59 pm inkgypsy: @Laura_Bickle Some great darkness?? Well there’s a series set-up if I ever heard one! ;) Looking forward to it! #UFchat
10:59 pm Laura_Bickle: That was sort of a spur-of-the-moment thing. The bar was a speakeasy during Prohibition, so it was associated with vice. #ufchat
11:00 pm inkgypsy: @Laura_Bickle Q16: Anya?s witch friend Katie seems to know a lot about elementals – why? How does she know stuff Anya doesn?t? #UFchat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q16: Anya?s witch friend Katie seems to know a lot about elementals – why? How does she know stuff Anya doesn?t? #UFchat
11:00 pm Laura_Bickle: And I liked the idea of a clawfoot bathtub filled with pennies in the middle of the bar. Wishing to the devil. #ufchat
11:01 pm michellemacewan: @Laura_Bickle Love that bathtub! #UFchat
11:02 pm inkgypsy: @Laura_Bickle Seriously cool idea! (clawfoot bathtub – the hardknocked wishing to the devil – asking for trouble!) #UFchat
11:02 pm Laura_Bickle: Katie’s still learning to apply what she’s learned in spellbooks to the physical world as a ghost hunter. #ufchat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q18: In what ways are fire & ghosts are directly connected in your series? Did you base on any mythology? #UFchat
11:04 pm Laura_Bickle: Katie is something like a librarian of magickal lore. #ufchat
11:04 pm Laura_Bickle: Katie is something like a librarian of magickal lore. #ufchat
11:05 pm Laura_Bickle: Ghosts and fire are both energy. Both unpredictable. And they’ve both been with us since the beginning of civilization. #ufchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q19: What is a ?lantern? and is that your own creation? What was the ?spark? that helped form that character aspect? #UFchat
11:06 pm Laura_Bickle: Anya devours ghosts, but she doesn’t know where they go when she destroys them. And that bothers her. #ufchat
11:06 pm Laura_Bickle: Yup. The lanterns were my idea. They’re the rarest kind of medium. Where other mediums allow spirits to use their hands and voices.. #ufchat
11:07 pm UF_chat2: Overtime but wanted to give people chance to ask Laura questions! Please @ Laura directly & use #UFchat hashtag so all can follow. :) Go!
11:07 pm Laura_Bickle: …to communicate, a Lantern allows the spirit into her body. Then, she incinerates it. Not a pretty process. And it makes Anya… #UFchat
11:07 pm Laura_Bickle: …like she’s always taking out the spiritual garbage. #ufchat
11:08 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q23: If you could ask your readers a question about urban fantasy, what would that be? #UFchat
11:08 pm Laura_Bickle: What would you like to see next? #UFchat
11:08 pm UF_Chat: Have at it people! Can you answer @Laura_Bickle?s question? (Every answer is entered as another chance to win!) #UFchat
11:09 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q24: For those not familiar w bks pls fill blanks: If you like __ &/or __ you?d like EMBERS/SPARKS. #UFchat
11:09 pm michellemacewan: @Laura_Bickle I would like to see the Lanterns develop their power in a new way – maybe tapping into something else #UFchat
11:10 pm Laura_Bickle: If you like the idea of Ghostbusters in Detroit with dragons and arson?you?ll like EMBERS/SPARKS. But it?s kind of dark and gritty. #Ufchat
11:10 pm Laura_Bickle: @michellemacewan I would, too. Nobody really knows what purpose they serve. Except Sparky, and he’s not talking. #ufchat
11:11 pm michellemacewan: @Laura_Bickle I am intrigued already! #UFchat
11:11 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle What about the ORACLE series? (same fill in the blanks) #UFchat
11:11 pm larissa_sarah: YES!RT @Laura_Bickle: If U lk the idea of Ghostbusters in Detroit w/ dragons & arson?you?ll lk EMBERS/SPARKS. kind of dark & gritty. #Ufchat
11:11 pm StacyMaynard: I dont really have a question but I love how unique and inventive all of your books are #ufchat
11:12 pm Laura_Bickle: @larissa_sarah @michellemacewan Thank you! #Ufchat
11:12 pm Laura_Bickle: @stacymaynard Thanks! :-) #ufchat
11:12 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Q26: Do U have anything (websites, writing, pet projects etc) you?d like to draw our attention to? Any last comments? #UFchat
11:13 pm Laura_Bickle: @UF_Chat Thank you so much for having me…thank you to everyone who chatted…and thanks for tolerating my newbie tech goofs! :-S #ufchat
11:14 pm UF_Chat: Thank you so much for being our special guest today in #UFchat @Laura_Bickle! and for letting Sparky ?off the leash? for a bit too. ;)
11:14 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle A very special thank you also for providing your awesome books for a giveaway today! *cheering* #UFchat
11:14 pm Laura_Bickle: Thank you for having me! :-) #UFchat
11:14 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat peeps welcome to hang with @Laura_Bickle as long as she?s able while I go tally entries & random.org chooses our winner! :D #UFchat
11:14 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat I wish I could have been here for the whole thing #ufchat
11:15 pm michellemacewan: @Laura_Bickle Thank you so much Laura – I am looking forward to reading more from you! Thankyou #UFchat and great meeting Sparky too!
11:15 pm Laura_Bickle: @leapatra Thank you for stopping in! It was great to meet you! #ufchat
11:16 pm Syrten: @Laura_Bickle Great tweetchat :) #UFchat
11:16 pm Laura_Bickle: Thanks, @syrten ! I appreciate it! #ufchat
11:17 pm shadowflame1974: @Laura_Bickle thank you for chatting and letting Sparky out. Can’t wait to get these books #UFchat
11:17 pm Laura_Bickle: @shadowflame1974 Thanks! Sparky is a PITA, but I adore him. He’s a composite of all the pets I’ve had over time. #ufchat
11:17 pm BeasBookNook: RT @larissa_sarah: YES!RT @Laura_Bickle: If U lk the idea of Ghostbusters in Detroit w/ dragons & arson?you?ll lk EMBERS/SPARKS. kind of dark & gritty. #Ufchat
11:18 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Please check your DMs ;) #UFchat
11:18 pm Laura_Bickle: I always seem to wind up giving my protagonists pets. I think it’s because I want them to have a little bit of unconditional love #ufchat
11:19 pm inkgypsy: @Laura_Bickle I love that your protagonists have pets! What’s Tara’s pet in the ORACLE series? #UFchat
11:19 pm SparkySalamandr: And our winner is…@michellemacewan ! Please DM Laura or me, and I’ll put your books in the mail! *wags tail* #ufchat
11:20 pm Syrten: @michellemacewan Congrats! :) #ufchat
11:20 pm Laura_Bickle: Tara has a cat, Oscar, and winds up with a dog who belonged to a scientist who vanished while working on discovering dark matter. #ufchat
11:20 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_Bickle Totally forgot to mention how awesomely lucky you’ve been w your covers! I hope you have poster sized for your wall! #UFchat
11:20 pm michellemacewan: @Laura_Bickle it’s a great idea – pets, special friends.. it’s such a great way to expand the dimensions of the character. #UFchat
11:20 pm Laura_Bickle: Hee. I have been SUPER lucky with the cover love. Thanks! #ufchat
11:21 pm UF_Chat: RT @SparkySalamandr: And our winner is…@michellemacewan ! Please DM Laura or me, and I’ll put your books in the mail! *wags tail* #ufchat
11:21 pm michellemacewan: @SparkySalamandr Oh THANKYOU so much! I am thrilled! #UFchat
11:21 pm leapetra: @michellemacewan congrats #ufchat
11:21 pm Laura_Bickle: @michellemacewan I think it’s because I’ve always had them around, and characters tend to let their guards down around them. #ufchat
11:21 pm UF_Chat: And our lucky winner of TWO books today, chosen by random.org & Sparky is: @michellemacewan CONGRATULATIONS! #UFchat
11:22 pm UF_Chat: Thanks again to @Laura_Bickle for being our special guest and for providing such awesome books today! #UFchat
11:22 pm Laura_Bickle: You cannot see Sparky, but he’s doing a terribly awkward happy dance. #ufchat
11:23 pm UF_Chat: And thank YOU @SparkySalamandr for such an awesome surprise today! I have a feeling we could have chatted the whole hour w you! #UFchat
11:23 pm michellemacewan: @UF_Chat Thankyou #UFchat
11:23 pm Laura_Bickle: Thanks for hosting us! #ufchat
11:23 pm UF_Chat: My imagination is very happy about this! lol!RT @Laura_Bickle: You cannot see Sparky, but he’s doing a terribly awkward happy dance. #ufchat
11:23 pm UF_Chat: @Laura_BIckle We wish you every success w your writing & hope you can join us again to talk more about your work (Sparky too!). #UFchat
11:24 pm UF_Chat: That wraps up today?s #UFchat! See you next week for more energizing UF topics! Don?t forget Tues #mythbeasts chat @ 6:30pmEST!
11:24 pm UF_Chat: Resources and links on @Laura_Bickle and her work next: #UFchat
11:24 pm UF_Chat: Laura Bickle website: http://bit.ly/i4dYcC #UFchat
11:24 pm UF_Chat: Interview with Laura Bickle at My Bookish Ways: http://bit.ly/dOkPq7 #UFChat
11:24 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat #mythbeasts is about Centaurs and Satyrs #ufchat
11:25 pm Syrten: I look forward to next week #UFchat Cya everyone
11:25 pm UF_Chat: Also up front: remembering Japan today too: Authors for Japan website: http://bit.ly/gVNT5W Info here: http://bit.ly/i2mUrj #UFchat
11:25 pm SparkySalamandr: You KNOW that she doesn’t let me out much. *pouts* #ufchat
11:25 pm UF_Chat: Artists for Japan ?Tsunami Relief art effort & auction http://bit.ly/g7rCXv #UFchat (folks will be interested in creatures painted too)
11:26 pm UF_Chat: Guest blog by @Laura_Bickle – pseudonymns and multiple personalities: http://bit.ly/ijKkDD #UFchat
11:26 pm UF_Chat: Best & Worst Job Prospects in the Urban Fantasy Economy for 2011 (note firefighter is one of these!) http://bit.ly/cpKuv3 #UFChat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: Sparky the Salamander?s Twitter account: http://bit.ly/hfaSb0 #UFchat -A MUST FOLLOW! He is hilarious (& kinda raunchy ;) Perfect UF friend.
11:27 pm UF_Chat: Letter to the Reader about Sparky & SPARKS http://bit.ly/fsmGEF #UFchat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: Some fire elemental images to inspire you! http://bit.ly/fFeG6s #UFChat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: Fire elementals ? Salamanders http://bit.ly/eVlKec #UFchat
11:27 pm larissa_sarah: RT @UF_Chat: Letter to the Reader about Sparky & SPARKS http://bit.ly/fsmGEF #UFchat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: Salamander ? legendary creature (Wikipedia) http://bit.ly/g5GntD #UFchat
11:27 pm larissa_sarah: RT @UF_Chat: Sparky the Salamander?s Twitter account: http://bit.ly/hfaSb0 #UFchat -A MUST FOLLOW! He is hilar? (cont) http://deck.ly/~i7dHE
11:27 pm UF_Chat: Salamanders (Dragonarama) http://bit.ly/ehjMNz #UFchat
11:29 pm UF_Chat: Hope your imagination has been fired up today! Stay warm everyone (except Southern Hemisphere – keep it cool – heh) #UFchat LIGHTS OUT!!
11:29 pm UF_Chat: RT @leapetra: @UF_Chat #mythbeasts is about Centaurs and Satyrs #ufchat
11:29 pm inkgypsy: RT @leapetra: @UF_Chat #mythbeasts is about Centaurs and Satyrs #ufchat
11:54 pm michellemacewan: RT @UF_Chat: Laura Bickle website: http://bit.ly/i4dYcC #UFchat
11:58 pm michellemacewan: Check out Laura’s interview,she was great on #UFchat today RT @UF_Chat:Interview with Laura Bickle at My Bookish Ways: http://bit.ly/dOkPq7
8:15 am AnassaRh: A2: Somebody mentioned ifrit and I know salamanders are coming up, but what about djinni, demons, fire elementals? #ufchat
8:15 am AnassaRh: A2: And let’s not forget the potential for fire to, say, burn down the MC’s house and/or kill their family, like in Supernatural. XD #ufchat
8:16 am AnassaRh: A2: Also people with pytotechnic powers or magic? #ufchat
8:19 am AnassaRh: A2a: Fire’s generally a good way to kill things. Vamps are generally highly flammable. So are mummies. #ufchat
8:19 am AnassaRh: Yes, new followers, I do participate in #ufchat every Saturday night. It’s technically at 3 pm PST but I’m afk then. Go ahead and ignore me.
8:20 am AnassaRh: A2: Fire used FOR paranormals? could be a source of power, could BE a power, could be a means of protection against others. #ufchat
8:22 am AnassaRh: Q3: That would be providing light sources to attract the dead, yes? And aren’t some poltergeists/ghosts pyros? #ufchat
8:23 am AnassaRh: A4: I can only think of creatures already named?phoenix, salamander, various demons, djinni. #ufchat
8:26 am AnassaRh: A5: Stacia Kane’s books deal heavily in ghosts. MC is a Debunker for the Church, finding false hauntings. #ufchat
8:26 am AnassaRh: A5: Anyone ordained in a religion would have contact with ghosts. Called in for exorcisms or for spirit guidance. #ufchat
8:27 am AnassaRh: A5: I’d also imagine realtors would have occasional run-in with ghosts. After all, haunted houses don’t sell. #ufchat
8:28 am AnassaRh: Ooh, hey, there’s an idea! Realtor has to rid a house of a ghost in order to sell it. #ufchat
8:29 am AnassaRh: A6: Most UF I’ve seen uses mediums as detectives, talking to the dead to find murderers. #ufchat
8:29 am AnassaRh: A6: And then there’s Harry Dresden and Bob the ghost “sidekick” who plays the role of mentor and assistant. #ufchat
8:44 am AnassaRh: A6a: I’d like to see teachers, salespeople, blue collar jobs, office workers. Mundane jobs. #ufchat
8:44 am AnassaRh: A6a: Going the more “traditional” route, how about coroners, forensic techs, more non-American cop-types. #ufchat
8:45 am AnassaRh: A7: Magical fires that can’t be put out by regular means? #ufchat
8:46 am AnassaRh: A8a: You’d need to give it a warm stove or flame-resistant fabric to bed in. And you’d need flame-resistant cloth to hold it. #ufchat
8:48 am AnassaRh: I can’t imagine fire salamanders would enjoy asbestos much. Allergies? #ufchat
9:19 am jolantru: RT @AnassaRh: A6a: I’d like to see teachers, salespeople, blue collar jobs, office workers. Mundane jobs. #ufchat
8:02 pm leapetra: @21stCscribe I do the #UFchat and started #mythbeasts

_________END OF TRANSCRIPT FOR MARCH 26TH 2011_________

See you all next Saturday: Roundtable week!

@InkGypsy

March 26, 2011: Q&A with Laura Bickle + 2 Book Giveaway!

Today we have Laura Bickle as our special guest author!

She writes both the Lantern series (also known as the Anya Kalinczyk novels) and the Delphic Oracle series as Alayna Williams.

I’ve also been told to expect a mystery guest – one of Laura’s characters! – to pop in during our chat!

Participants in #UFchat will have the chance to win TWO books – one from each series – by asking our mystery guest a question.

(See below for books to be won!)

Who will our mystery guest be?

All shall be revealed at 3pmPST/ 6pmEST on Saturday March 26, 2011!

(Thank you Laura!)

Transcript March 12, 2011 – Supernatural Rescue & Defense – How UF Writers (& Their Creatures) Can Help Japan’s Rescue & Disaster Relief

In the wake of Japan’s 8.9 earthquake on Friday March 11, the ensuing tsunami and the (current) nuclear emergency, we thought we’d put the planned topic on hold for this week and instead see what WE could do, as UF writers and readers, to help in this time of very real and ongoing emergency.

Our source for retrieving the transcripts remains inconsistent and unpredictable – below is what we’ve managed to collect from the March 12 chat.

8:19 pm rcmurphy: @UF_Chat I won’t have time to chat, but Sherrilyn Kenyon covered Katrina’s affect on her charas. They had to let nature take its> #UFchat
8:20 pm rcmurphy: @UF_Chat course, but they were Right There helping the recovery effort. New Orleans is their home as well. #UFchat
10:26 pm tordotUF: RT @UF_Chat: Are you ready to discuss how Weres, Vamps and other UF creatures could be helpful in a disaster? #UFchat Today 1 hour
10:30 pm shadowflame1974: #UFchat 30 minutes to go time! Disasters! Rescues! Can UF characters help?
10:38 pm leapetra: RT @UF_Chat: Are you ready to discuss how Weres, Vamps and other UF creatures could be helpful in a disaster? #ufchat
10:42 pm jolantru: RT @leapetra: RT @UF_Chat: Are you ready to discuss how Weres, Vamps and other UF creatures could be helpful in a disaster? #ufchat
10:45 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat today: Japan’s disaster, how you can help as a writer & artist and thinking outside the box in times of emergency. 3pmPST/6pmEST
10:45 pm inkgypsy: #UFchat today: Japan’s disaster, how you can help as a writer & artist and thinking outside the box in times of emergency. 3pmPST/6pmEST
10:46 pm UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat earlybirds: Re writing UF/sci-fi/fantasy based on real disasters -Writing Hurricane Katrina: http://bit.ly/a4fdIh #UFchat
10:46 pm inkgypsy: Primer for #UFchat earlybirds: Re writing UF/sci-fi/fantasy based on real disasters -Writing Hurricane Katrina: http://bit.ly/a4fdIh #UFchat
10:49 pm UF_Chat: For those concerned today’s #UFchat we are focusing on how to HELP in times of real emergency (eg. NOW!), using creative thinking & writing.
10:49 pm inkgypsy: For those concerned today’s #UFchat we are focusing on how to HELP in times of real emergency (eg. NOW!), using creative thinking & writing.
10:50 pm UF_Chat: Got lost in #UFchat last time thx to #tweetchatfail? Alts: use Tweetdeck & add #UFchat column or online: Twitter Search http://bit.ly/eSSP2F
10:51 pm johanncarlisle: RT @UF_Chat: For those concerned today’s #UFchat we are focusing on how to HELP in times of real emergency (eg. NOW!), using creative thinking & writing.
10:52 pm MarciSischo: Hello! Missed chatting with you guys! #UFChat
10:52 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy http://dellasays.wordpress.com/2011/03/12/authors-for-japan-can-you-help/ I am donating a couple of books #ufchat
10:52 pm UF_Chat: Tweetchat appears to be keeping up as of this posting – yay! #UFchat
10:53 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra Excellent thank you! RT-ing #UFchat
10:53 pm MarciSischo: I used tweetchat last week to do a livetweet, and it held up all right. I’m crossing my fingers. :D #UFChat
10:53 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy Authors for Japan – can you help? http://bit.ly/gbcYHx < shorter link #ufchat
10:54 pm UF_Chat: How authors can help Japan NOW. Authors for Japan: RT @leapetra: http://bit.ly/f4rpHH I am donating a couple of books #ufchat
10:54 pm inkgypsy: How authors can help Japan NOW. Authors for Japan: RT @leapetra: http://bit.ly/f4rpHH I am donating a couple of books #ufchat
10:54 pm inkgypsy: @MarciSischo Great! It’s the first time in about 2 months I’ve seen it be current – I love it when Tweetchat works. :) #UFchat
10:55 pm MarciSischo: @inkgypsy It makes keeping up with the convo a whole lot easier, that’s for sure. #UFChat
10:56 pm inkgypsy: OK I’m putting on all my emergency gear and all-weather boots to helm the help coming from #UFchat today!
10:56 pm Tiger_Gray: It always works for me when I do #litchat #UFChat
10:57 pm UF_Chat: Looking forward to seeing creativity put to use and coming up with ways to help today in #UFchat- get those weres & vamps working with us!
10:57 pm inkgypsy: Looking forward to seeing creativity put to use and coming up with ways to help today in #UFchat- get those weres & vamps working with us!
10:58 pm leapetra: Worked good for #mythbeasts on Tuesday. Saturdays it must get overwhelmed sometimes. #ufchat
10:58 pm MarciSischo: Weres would make the best disaster dogs EVAR. #UFChat
10:58 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat weres = body sniffing dogs. #ufchat
10:58 pm MarciSischo: Imagine having those noses to help find victims in rubble? #UFChat
10:59 pm crazy_legz: LOL!!! Ditto! and stop looters and crowd management also! RT @MarciSischo: Weres would make the best disaster dogs EVAR. #UFChat
10:59 pm GraylinFox: RT @UF_Chat: #UFchat today: Japan’s disaster, how you can help as a writer & artist and thinking outside the box in times of emergency. 3pmPST/6pmEST
11:00 pm UF_Chat: @MarciSischo Agreed! I think @Jess_Haines used weres to do exactly that in her post 9/11 NY world. Was great to see that! #UFchat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: 3, 2, 1… & now we?re live with #UFchat, sending our prayers & thoughts to all those in Japan & those giving aid.
11:00 pm UF_Chat: Today I?ve ditched planned topic & instead am focused like rest of the world on the disasters happening in Japan right now. #UFchat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: Reminder: ?S? stands for statement which will be followed by a ?Q? (a related #UFchat question for discussion).
11:01 pm leapetra: @MarciSischo great minds think alike. #ufchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: Note: If you are aware of awesome charity places or relief efforts you want to highlight during this chat please go ahead & tweet! #UFchat
11:01 pm MarciSischo: @UF_Chat Charlaine Harris had her two telepaths help out in that building explosion, finding survivors. #UFChat
11:01 pm GraylinFox: RT @UF_Chat: Looking forward to seeing creativity put to use and coming up with ways to help today in #UFchat- get those weres & vamps working with us!
11:01 pm leapetra: switching comps. BRB #ufchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat doc: Supernatural Rescue & Defense – March 12, 2011 (after Japan?s 8.9 earthquake & tsunami the day before)
11:01 pm UF_Chat: Thru history sci-fi & fantasy writers predicted technological/medical breakthroughs by sideways thinking. #UFchat
11:01 pm MarciSischo: @UF_Chat Book 5 or 6 of the Southern Vampire Mysteries? #UFChat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: Let?s see how we as UF writers & readers might help in this time of great need. 1) Think on Japan?s disasters right now. (cont) #UFchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: (cont) 2) Now imagine UF beings in the midst – not just as victims but particularly as a resource for aid and rescue. #UFchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: Today in #UFchat an open discussion on: Supernatural Rescue & Defense during natural disasters – how could we help?
11:02 pm MarciSischo: Text 90999 to donate $10 to the Red Cross disaster relief efforts. The charge goes on your phone bill. #UFChat
11:02 pm inkgypsy: RT @MarciSischo: Text 90999 to donate $10 to the Red Cross disaster relief efforts. The charge goes on your phone bill. #UFChat
11:02 pm crazy_legz: @UF_Chat Teleporter would be invaluable! Think #Push #UFchat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: @crazy_legz OMG that would be invaluable! (re teleporter) #UFchat
11:03 pm MarciSischo: Oops- Text REDCROSS to 90999 to donate $10. :P #UFChat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: RT @MarciSischo: Oops- Text REDCROSS to 90999 to donate $10. :P #UFChat
11:04 pm StephanieLMcGee: My supernaturals wouldn’t be any help. They can’t touch humans. #UFChat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: 1) First of all, let?s concentrate on what?s needed specifically for Japan NOW that donated funds will help with: (eg fresh water) #UFchat
11:04 pm inkgypsy: @StephanieLMcGee Sure they could help – physical contact isn’t required to help – otherwise we couldn’t from here either, right? ;) #UFchat
11:06 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat Sorry I’m late! Yes, that’s right. @UF_Chat @MarciSischo
11:06 pm UF_Chat: Anyone? How about funds will help get: water purifiers, food, medical supplies, shelters, communication systems… #UFchat
11:06 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat 1) my leshy could help with the basics, water, food, shelter. Anything needed at a survival level #ufchat
11:06 pm UF_Chat: S: For prompts see these pics taken Thursday night/Fri re Earthquake & tsunami in Japan (Alan Taylor photos) http://bit.ly/iestmP #UFchat
11:07 pm leapetra: 1) Also three of my vampires have access to money. One owns a medical company, he would be there. #ufchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra I’m thinking any household supes could help – domovois, brownies etc but they’d also need help too. #UFchat
11:07 pm jonfmerz: #ufchat the vampire Fixers in my Lawson universe would be a natural help to the folks of Japan. And given Lawson
11:07 pm UF_Chat: 1a) There are obvious physical needs but more than that too – what other needs do disaster victims have? #UFchat
11:08 pm Tiger_Gray: Sorry I guess I just feel like it’s too soon for this discussion. Have a hard time putting it together with fantasy atm. #UFChat
11:08 pm jonfmerz: #ufchat Lawson’s affinity for Japan and his past ninjutsu training, he’d be over there right away
11:08 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat Also, if you have ALREADY DONATED or PLAN ON DONATING, please tell me here: http://bit.ly/fZhcqH Doing a dono match game!
11:08 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat The leshy’s payment would be easy. in Japan he would take some Saki for thanks #ufchat
11:08 pm jonfmerz: @leapetra #ufchat you maean “sake.”
11:08 pm UF_Chat: @StephanieLMcGee Weather control is important – hold off the rain until areas cleared, reduce tides, blow radioactive steam away #UFchat
11:09 pm leapetra: @Tiger_Gray actually I have thought about this similar thing before. Why my one vamp did not hunt in Leningrad in WWII #ufchat
11:09 pm jonfmerz: @Tiger_Gray #ufchat agreed to some extent. I’m still trying to contact some of my friends over there, so this is tough, but good
11:09 pm leapetra: @jonfmerz yeah thats it #ufchat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: 1b) What are the ways in which we -mortal humans- can help? Both on site and from a distance? AND what ‘xtra’ powers wold be useful? #UFchat
11:10 pm BeritEllingsen: @leapetra But would your vampires be interested in helping humans? #ufchat
11:10 pm jonfmerz: #ufchat getting trained as a first responder is always a good thing; I can’t tell you how amny times it’s helped in my own real world exper
11:10 pm Tiger_Gray: @leapetra It is totally a worthwhile topic, don’t get me wrong. am all about realism and fantasy together. #UFChat
11:11 pm jonfmerz: #ufchat being able to help triage wounded, do search & rescue, and other skills are always good for average citizens to have
11:11 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat 1b I have offered to send my books to an auction. Money is tight for me right now, but i can do that. #ufchat
11:11 pm leapetra: @BeritEllingsen depends on the vampire and situation. ie Leningrad it was his patriotic duty not to hunt the siege victims. #ufchat
11:12 pm MarciSischo: My universe suffers from a low “good-guy” quotient. I have a suspicion many of my characters couldn’t be bothered to help. #UFChat
11:12 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat 1b – From afar, donate money and resources like food and water. In person? Help clean up the mess, help rebuild, assist the docs who
11:12 pm UF_Chat: @jonfmerz When in Animal Care in Australia learned no one could graduate w/out a first aid & CPR certificate. Xlnt idea! #UFchat
11:12 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat are no doubt overwhelmed with patients who are injured and in need of assistance, etc.
11:13 pm jonfmerz: @UF_Chat #ufchat that training also helps reduce the level of panic in the populace when more people are trained to respond properly in…
11:13 pm UF_Chat: REPOSTING: 1a) There are obvious physical needs but more than than too – what OTHER needs do disaster victims have? #UFchat
11:13 pm jonfmerz: @UF_Chat #ufchat emergency situations rather than simply running around in wild hysteria
11:13 pm StephanieLMcGee: @WeegZilla They’re not that kind of supernatural though. Sigh. Mine really wouldn’t be any help. #UFChat
11:13 pm WeegZilla: supernaturals ghosts/spirits could help in a sudden disaster with so many dead means alot of unfinished business to take care off. #ufchat
11:14 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat 1a mental help. Shock affects everyone differently #ufchat
11:14 pm UF_Chat: Immediately to mind are ways to reach/communicate w loved ones, having someone as a leader to look to… #UFchat
11:14 pm crazy_legz: @UF_Chat I’m broke BUT I can do a healing net with all my spiritual buddies and familiars to send energy to those that need it #UFchat
11:14 pm jonfmerz: @a_silent_song #ufchat so true! my wife gave herself a very bad cut the other night and I had to treat it. I’m always thankful for training
11:14 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat 1a some vamps can control the minds, calming people down. #ufchat
11:14 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat 1a – Many of them suffer losses of personal belongings, homes, and even family or friends. A lot of the victims will need the
11:14 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra Yes – Post Traumatic Stress Disorder very real – how to minimize effects has to be handled immediately. #UFchat
11:15 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat If you can’t have twitter, a telepath would be awesome #ufchat
11:15 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat sympathetic ear of a counselor or a minister to help them through the losses.
11:15 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines So place that’s ‘theirs’ – a box, a sleeping ‘place’ tho temporary may help some… #UFchat
11:16 pm KateNicNiven: And I AM, dear. RT @leapetra: @UF_Chat If you can’t have twitter, a telepath would be awesome #ufchat
11:16 pm jonfmerz: #ufchat I’m wondering if the dojo I study at when in japan is going to be there when I return. I was supposed to be over there now, actually
11:16 pm leapetra: my berserk would be good to a point. If he got too stressed himself, he would make the situation worse #ufchat
11:16 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Also showing how they can help can helpl them too – not feel useless – is awful feeling – you all problem no solution #UFchat
11:16 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Right, exactly. #UFchat
11:17 pm inkgypsy: @jonfmerz We are glad you are not! Hoping people you know & love are safe. #UFchat
11:17 pm leapetra: @jonfmerz Any news on it at all? #ufchat
11:17 pm jonfmerz: #ufchat glad the trip got canceled
11:17 pm UF_Chat: 1c) How could a UF community help in times of disaster (like now)? #UFchat
11:17 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Yes. Sometimes what they need more than anything is to be kept busy so they can’t fall into deep depression/shock. #UFchat
11:19 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Would you mind sharing how you had your supes help during 9/11 in your novel premise? (more discussion later too) #UFchat
11:19 pm leapetra: 1c) How authors can help Japan NOW. Authors for Japan: http://bit.ly/f4rpHH <great idea for writers #ufchat
11:19 pm crazy_legz: @UF_Chat 1c) well theres my group of teleporters lol! I’m off! Just wrecked! Hope everyone is ok and much love to everyone in Jap. #UFchat
11:19 pm UF_Chat: 2) Disasters BY creatures easy to imagine but what if creatures caught in disaster like Japan-how might they react by creature type? #UFchat
11:20 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Sure. The premise for how supernaturals “came out of the closet” in my book, HUNTED BY THE OTHERS, is that they felt #UFchat
11:20 pm UF_Chat: @crazy_legz Wishing us all teleporters in times of emergency! Thanks for dropping by! #UFchat
11:20 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat there would be no better time to reveal themselves than the fall of the Twin Towers during 9/11. One of the werewolf packs #UFchat
11:21 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat 2. I have been waiting for the godzilla reference, but its too soon. #ufchat
11:21 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat in New York used it as a way to help, and in a way that they would show they are useful and not to be feared by humanity. #UFchat
11:22 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra I wanted to keep away from that today in general & be sensitive as still happening, want to concentrate on helping. #UFchat
11:22 pm StephanieLMcGee: Gotta bow out of the #UFChat. People coming for dinner. Time to prep.
11:22 pm shadowflame1974: I think the varied talents and the survival skills of most UF characters would be useful #UFchat
11:22 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat I was a volunteer minister on site at Ground Zero. It was my way of paying tribute, weird as that sounds. #UFchat
11:22 pm QQwill: Hi. Just able to log on. What is the topic. #ufchat
11:23 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines, how were your weres & vamps ADVERSELY affected by the twin towers falling? They helped but were they also hurt? #UFchat
11:23 pm shadowflame1974: and I agree Were’s would be awesomely useful right now. #UFchat
11:23 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Nope – sounds excellent actually. You have my respect & thanks on behalf of the people who couldn’t say it at the time. #UFchat
11:23 pm leapetra: @Jess_Haines were you influenced at all by some of the political cartoons that came out afterwards. (1/2) #ufchat
11:24 pm leapetra: @Jess_Haines One I remember is a child yelling at Superman “Where were you?” #ufchat
11:24 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat I didn’t explore that aspect deeply in the books. Background, yes (personal/financial losses). In the actual books, no. #UFchat
11:24 pm UF_Chat: @QQwill Looking at Japan’s disaster – how we can help by thinking outside box. How supernaturals could help if existed. Focus on aid #UFchat
11:25 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy It’s not an easy subject to talk about. #UFchat
11:25 pm UF_Chat: Already mentioned household creatures may be both very helpful during emergency but also very hurt. What about other creatures? #UFchat
11:25 pm shadowflame1974: also shape changers. Someone who could turn into a small dog or cat could go into places humans couldn’t #UFchat
11:25 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat Sorry I’m late!
11:26 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra To be frank, I hate reading newspapers or political cartoons, because there is so much finger-pointing and bad news #UFchat
11:26 pm QQwill: @UF_Chat I think the best way to help immediately is to donate to organizations that know how to respond to emergencies like this. #UFChat
11:26 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines No, it’s not but I think we need to – with respect, & with aim of helping in the NOW & preparing for the future. #UFchat
11:26 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra instead of people sucking it up and DOING something about the problem. #UFchat
11:26 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Very much appreciate how you handled it in Hunted by the Others. #UFchat
11:26 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat United way puts over 90% of donations right into the hands of those who need it.
11:26 pm shadowflame1974: I think Vamps, or other undead could be useful in the reactors. They wouldn’t suffer from the radioactive fallout. #UFchat
11:27 pm jonfmerz: #ufchat it’s fortunate that japan has long been at the forefront of engineering with an eye toward surviving quakes
11:27 pm jonfmerz: #ufchat could have much much worse
11:27 pm inkgypsy: @jonfmerz Very much agreed – also been at forefront with nuclear tech & emergency systems too. #UFchat
11:27 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra Superman won’t always be there. We need to be our own Superman if we’re going to make changes in this world. #UFchat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: RT @shadowflame1974: I think Vamps, or other undead could be useful in the reactors. They wouldn’t suffer from the radioactive fallout. #UFchat
11:28 pm UF_Chat: S: Let?s assume UF creatures caught in Japan disaster with humans concentrate on commonality with humans & survival. #UFchat
11:28 pm shadowflame1974: @jonfmerz definitely. #UFChat
11:28 pm UF_Chat: 3) What might be some ways in which supernaturals could help their fellow human victims? #UFchat
11:28 pm jonfmerz: @inkgypsy #ufchat thank god for that!
11:28 pm leapetra: @Jess_Haines good point, happens all the time #ufchat
11:28 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Thank you. It was never my intention to treat it as something offhand or not to be looked back upon without sorrow or any #UFchat
11:28 pm UF_Chat: 3a) What are some ways supernaturals might find themselves needing help/at a disadvantage in different ways than humans? #UFchat
11:28 pm QQwill: @UF_Chat They are stronger in general. Could help get people out while waiting for assistance. #UFchat
11:29 pm jonfmerz: @UF_Chat #ufchat well the vamps in my Lawson universe are pretty much intermingled with humans anyway, so they’d be right there alongside em
11:29 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy sense of regret. I lost family in one of those towers. Believe me, I’m the last person who will ever look at it as an #UFchat
11:29 pm shadowflame1974: Could magic be tied in to some of the generators to help save electricity? #UFchat
11:29 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy unimportant or inconsequential event. #UFchat
11:29 pm QQwill: @UF_Chat If the vampires go poof in the sun, then they would need to find new shelter if their homes were destroyed. #UFchat
11:29 pm UF_Chat: One of things I’m heading toward today is to find the strengths we have just as humans – the very small can still be powerful help! #UFchat
11:29 pm jonfmerz: @UF_Chat #ufchat I think their needs would be pretty similar – the need for blood as well, so hopefully donors would be brought in
11:30 pm scootercarlyle: @jonfmerz Nevermind, you answered my question. #UFChat
11:30 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Oh I’m so sorry! I didn’t realize you lost family too. my sincere sympathy. Your books just went to a whole diff level. #UFchat
11:30 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat can humans afford to lose blood after a disaster to support vamps?
11:30 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra Exactly. In less spectacular fashion, I make a jab at this in book 2, when people stand by and watch as the MC is #UFchat
11:31 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra kidnapped in broad daylight. Nobody does anything to stop or help. #UFchat
11:31 pm inkgypsy: @scootercarlyle Maybe it would be interesting to see if vamps could help the transfusion processes needed too. #UFchat
11:31 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat Most of the time hospitals are clamoring for blood for emergency surgeries.
11:31 pm leapetra: @scootercarlyle depends on the vampire. They might know were good supplies are at. #ufchat
11:32 pm scootercarlyle: @inkgypsy #UFchat. True. CHarlaine Harris’s vamps definitely could help. They could imbue the wounded with super poweres.
11:32 pm UF_Chat: S: Author Jess Haines @Jess_Haines (Hi!) has disaster of 9/11 as catalyst for supes ?coming out? when provide special relief efforts #UFchat
11:32 pm shadowflame1974: Yes but a pint of blood to keep a vamp going is a lot less than the food needed for a rescue worker #UFchat
11:32 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy It’s OK. Don’t take my stories to be super serious political/social commentaries. Never meant for them to be taken like #UFchat
11:33 pm UF_Chat: S: Note: @Jess_Haines has pledged to donate funds to match those helping as much as she can. To help: http://bit.ly/fds69v #UFchat
11:33 pm UF_Chat: 4) Where could you see supes using special abilities in disaster relief for Japan? #UFchat
11:33 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy that. And the loss is long past. I’m all right now. :) And it had no bearing on why I went to NY as a minister. #UFchat
11:33 pm leapetra: @Jess_Haines recently had a friend go off on a bystander that complained about a woman having a seizure. some ppl rise up. #ufchat
11:33 pm oldbookwormcb: RT @UF_Chat: S: Note: @Jess_Haines has pledged to donate funds to match those helping as much as she can. To help: http://bit.ly/fds69v #UFchat
11:33 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat Werewolves could sniff out the wounded in the rubble.
11:34 pm shadowflame1974: Those with magical abilities could purify water, help others keep warm, etc Little bits of magic goes a long way sometimes #ufchat
11:34 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines These are long overdue: *HUGS!* #UFChat You get more awesome the more I get to know you woman! *another hug* #UFchat
11:34 pm scootercarlyle: @leapetra #UFChat I once called an ambulance for a Native American having a seizure. Bystanders actually stepped over him.
11:34 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat 4. think of the creatures native to Japan. Some of the elemental forces. Some could have faced down the waves. #ufchat
11:35 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra Oh, I’m not saying people never help. We wouldn’t have organizations like Red Cross, Doctors w/o Borders, etc, if that was #UFchat
11:35 pm scootercarlyle: @leapetra #UFchat The Japanese see demons as supernatural creatures instead of evil incarnate.
11:35 pm Ramenth: #UFChat sorry I’m a little late to this. It’s an interesting idea but I think it would be hard to handle well in an established series (cont
11:35 pm Ramenth: #UFChat without starting to feel like a “Very Special Episode”.
11:36 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra This is where I think it’s good to brainstorm – if creature ‘x’ could do ‘y’ is there = in nature? Could we make tech? #UFchat
11:36 pm GraylinFox: RT @UF_Chat 3) What might be some ways in which supernaturals could help their fellow human victims? #UFchat
11:36 pm scootercarlyle: #leapetra #UFchat There could definitely be some potential there for water and earth demons.
11:36 pm UF_Chat: 4a) Assume acceptance (if just for now) of emerging supes helping Japanese today. What might be GOOD headlines UF creatures create? #UFchat
11:36 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra the case. I just wish that more people would PARTICIPATE to make a better world, like what I saw in NY. There were so many #UFchat
11:36 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy I think some researchers do that. #ufchat
11:37 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra people who came from all over the world–I met people from US, South America, Germany, Austrailia–and all they wanted was #UFchat
11:37 pm scootercarlyle: @UF_Chat #UFchat “Water Demons Seen Clamoring to Push Back the Waves”
11:37 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra Have you seen NOVA special on smart machines? They’re doing exactly that – it feels like a UF story to watch – seriously! #UFchat
11:37 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat 4a my vamp Ogden, would send his company over, offer med supplies for free. #ufchat
11:38 pm UF_Chat: S: Aid & defense isn?t necessarily all about power & special abilities. Sometimes creativity with avail resources works best. (cont) #UFchat
11:38 pm UF_Chat: (cont) ?Illusioneering? is made-up term applied to Disney artists who helped camouflage areas incl Boeing facilities in 1940s (cont) #UFchat
11:38 pm UF_Chat: (cont) & English magicians help create decoys to fool Nazis. Scroll down past ballroom to see illusions at work http://bit.ly/guOTcU #UFchat
11:38 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat 4a I don’t mean just bandages. medical machines as well. #ufchat
11:38 pm UF_Chat: Yes this is real history folks! #UFchat
11:38 pm jonfmerz: @UF_Chat #ufchat loved that special!
11:39 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra Parenthood losing federal funding, etc. It’s important to remember that it’s not just the spectacular events that merit #UFchat
11:39 pm UF_Chat: 5) How might non-traditional fields help in disaster relief or defense re natural disasters? (eg artists, magicians, film makers) #UFchat
11:39 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra attention and our assistance. #UFchat
11:39 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy *hugs* Thank you, darlin’. :) I do what I can with what resources I have. #UFchat
11:40 pm inkgypsy: @jonfmerz I DVR’d – they just skimmed surface of research happening. Want to see if any applicable in disaster relief! #UFchat
11:40 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines If only more did (is why I wanted to talk about this today) #UFchat
11:40 pm scootercarlyle: @UF_Chat #UFchat Filmmakers are important as they remind the public that help is still needed months after disasters.
11:41 pm UF_Chat: @scootercarlyle Also – can you imagine when communication down how large projected film would help? Distraction & instruction! #UFchat
11:41 pm scootercarlyle: @UF_Chat #UFchat Sweet!
11:41 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat some artists bring attention to events that get lost in the media. #ufchat
11:42 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra Musicians are excellent at this. More musicians on site would help too I think – multi reasons. #UFchat
11:42 pm scootercarlyle: #UFChat Art is necessary for healing. I forget who, but a music teacher pointed out all of the spontaneous co? (cont) http://deck.ly/~4bN9i
11:43 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy @leapetra You don’t have to be overwhelmed or feel like there’s nothing you can do. If you aren’t sure, donate to charity #UFchat
11:43 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat I already seen one of my fav bands using their forum for their Japanese fans to connect. #ufchat
11:43 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy @leapetra at the least. Check with your local library or shelters if they need help. See what gov’t programs you would #UFchat
11:44 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Agreed – & if you can’t help those OS that way then looking to your own preparations in case of future will help too. #UFchat
11:44 pm scootercarlyle: #UFChat Sorry. Spontaneous concerts popped up after 9/11. The arts help us process trauma.
11:44 pm HollyIMerriday: @scootercarlyle @leapetra One of my characters is a merman. Disasters involving water a specialty. #UFChat
11:44 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy @leapetra want to support and become a part of them. Organize your neighbors to clean up graffiti and trash in your town. #UFchat
11:45 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra @inkgypsy There’s no limit to ways you can help. #UFchat
11:45 pm scootercarlyle: @HollyIMerriday Awesome. My characters don’t count as supernatural, I don’t think. #UFchat
11:45 pm UF_Chat: Remember many kids caught in disaster too – this is where storytellers are needed to help these kids cope/express/communicate #UFchat
11:46 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat. I teach music, and I have a student whose family suffered a murder.
11:46 pm scootercarlyle: The mother did not allow the children to grieve. None of the kids have been the same since. #UFchat
11:46 pm inkgypsy: @HollyIMerriday Can you imagine a world mer-co-op to help deal with a tsunami disaster? May not be too far fetched – divers needed! #UFchat
11:46 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat Kids need so much help after terrifying events.
11:47 pm UF_Chat: @scootercarlyle Oh that’s horrific. :( You must be such a gift for those kids to help their expression. #UFchat
11:47 pm UF_Chat: S: Writers have been shown to have an influence on world problem solving. Imagine you are consulted for ideas on how to help. #UFChat
11:48 pm UF_Chat: 6) What are your suggestions to world leaders for a) improving disaster relief/rescue efforts & b) prevention of future disasters? #UFChat
11:48 pm scootercarlyle: @UF_Chat #UFChat One of them just broke another kid’s bone during music the other day. He needs prayers, for sure.
11:48 pm UF_Chat: Please focus on help not blame – go from where we our now re the last question. We can’t change the past. #UFchat
11:48 pm jonfmerz: @UF_Chat #ufchat one thing would the implementation of an early warning system for California & other areas like they have in Japan
11:49 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat Prevention is nearly impossible as long as humans inhabit disaster-prone areas.
11:49 pm Ramenth: @jonfmerz #ufchat we have one of those, at least in NorCal.
11:49 pm UF_Chat: @jonfmerz Agreed! Maybe a dedicated media station too -non-profit, non-advertiser influenced to help spread facts & warnings etc too #UFchat
11:50 pm Jess_Haines: This! RT @UF_Chat: Please focus on help not blame – go from where we our now re the last question. We can’t change the past. #UFchat
11:50 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat Perhaps some of the supernaturals could help humans relocate.
11:51 pm leapetra: 6) I think social media has stepped it up with a lot the governments used to do. especially with info #ufchat
11:51 pm jonfmerz: @Ramenth SoCal definitely needs one! #ufchat
11:51 pm UF_Chat: Did anyone hear about the northern ports on West US coast? Got destroyed by just a 8 ft swell. Not even a tsunami-proper. #UFchat
11:52 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra yay social media! Yes – Twitter has become a force for good (mostly) in emergencies now! #UFchat
11:52 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra yes I agree there was a lot of information shared imediately #UFchat
11:53 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat I’m more worried about the problems with the nuclear power plant that was damaged in the Japan tsunami. #UFchat
11:53 pm scootercarlyle: @Jess_Haines #UFChat. No joke. That’s scary as hell.
11:54 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Found this yesterday: http://bit.ly/gDvyC7 It’s a helpful summary of the nuclear issue there at present. #UFchat
11:54 pm Jess_Haines: @scootercarlyle Seriously. Did you hear about the explosion earlier today? #UFchat
11:54 pm shadowflame1974: @Jess_Haines: could we send in a bunch of mind controlled zombies to work on the generators? #UFchat
11:54 pm UF_Chat: FINAL 7) What are the ways in which you are aware of that average person can give aid (if you have links, please share)? #UFchat
11:54 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat I’m asking because I don’t know, but will the earthquake affect food production? Japan doesn’t have much arable land.
11:54 pm leapetra: @Jess_Haines so am I, the second is critical. #ufchat
11:54 pm Jess_Haines: @scootercarlyle Last article I saw they had evac’d within a 12 1/2 mile radius of the power plant. #UFchat
11:55 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat They import most of their food, and I don’t know if their fields were inundated with sea water. Salt’s not good for growing things.
11:55 pm leapetra: @Jess_Haines That scared me. It had to do with the cooling pumps. Which really scares me #ufchat
11:55 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat Sorry, I’m a farmer/rancher’s daughter.
11:55 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Red cross is the first place I call. #ufchat
11:56 pm QQwill: @UF_Chat Red Cross has set up a way to donate directly to Japan Earthquake & Pacific Tsunami http://bit.ly/esmn4h #UFChat
11:56 pm jonfmerz: @UF_Chat #ufchat I’ve got to get going, but I’d just like to thank you for putting this very important topic out there today.
11:56 pm shadowflame1974: @scootercarlyle a lot of the farmland on the coast and along the rivers were inundated in the prefict. #UFchat
11:56 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat RE: 7 — Red Cross, Doctors w/o Borders, forget the name of it but there is one that helps animals let homeless after #UFchat
11:56 pm inkgypsy: @scootercarlyle Good news I guess is Tokyo was mostly unharmed so coordination of business & exports/imports still OK #UFchat
11:57 pm jonfmerz: @UF_Chat #ufchat events like this remind us all of the frailty of life and the enduring strength of human spirit – we are all connected
11:57 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat disasters, etc. Also support your church because many often send missions to assist in disasters. #UFchat
11:57 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines I’ve been trying to think of that one too – people need their animals at times like this too – veyr much so actually. #UFchat
11:58 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat @shadowflame1974 Good thing the US has bumper crops this last year. The Japanese already import a great deal of beef from us, too.
11:58 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat If you are in US, text REDCROSS to 90999 to donate $10 to the Red Cross. Goes onto your cell phone bill.
11:58 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Right. People first, but there are animals affected, too. #UFchat
11:59 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra There was a great article that explained how it works and what to expect in worst case scenario. One sec, will see if I #UFchat
11:59 pm scootercarlyle: #UFchat I probably won’t see you guys next week. I’ll be out at the farm, but have a good week.
11:59 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra can find it. #UFchat
11:59 pm QQwill: Shelterbox provides emergency shelter: http://bit.ly/dVs6yY You can not designate to which disaster it goes. #UFchat
11:59 pm inkgypsy: @scootercarlyle I hope will help 1st & eye profit margins later. I hate this greed thing – it complicates/worsens everything. :( #UFchat
March 13, 2011
UF_Chat: Want to help but don?t know how? American Red Cross are world pros 4 disaster relief & across all borders: http://www.redcross.org/ #UFchat
shadowflame1974: @inkgypsy yes but Tokyo gets power from there. :( #UFchat
scootercarlyle: @UF_Chat #UFchat. @inkgypsy Crop prices fell sharply right after Dad sold his harvest. The lower prices may help get food over there.
12:01 am inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Sorry – meant people need their animals to cope – often make diff between coping & not, pulling through & PTSD or not. #UFchat
12:01 am leapetra: @QQwill The auction I am donating to, is giving the funds to them #ufchat
12:01 am inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 Yes but 30% only I read (still a LOT but can still function with their back-ups for now) #UFchat
12:01 am scootercarlyle: #UFchat See you all later. I have to clean the office.
12:01 am Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Ah, I gotcha. #UFchat
12:02 am leapetra: I can’t find the pet rescue either. I found the FEMA page on how to prepare your pets for a disaster, #ufchat
12:02 am jonfmerz: #ufchat take care all – remember to hug your loved ones tonight and tell them you love them. A lot of Japanese can no longer do even that.
12:03 am QQwill: Mercy Corps via its partner Peace Winds is helping quake victims. You can donate directly to Japan relief. http://bit.ly/gt4BO8 #UFChat
12:03 am inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Is it the WSPA thatdoes emergency animal rescue/relief/owner reuniting? #UFchat
12:04 am QQwill: A good place to check out charites and how well they do is Charity Navigator: http://bit.ly/ibNClI #UFChat
12:04 am UF_Chat: @jonfmerz Yes – and we can all help if we all try to – even little ways combined help a lot. #UFChat We need each other.
12:04 am Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy That’s one, but wasn’t t one I was thinking of. #UFchat
12:04 am shadowflame1974: is this the link to animal rescue? http://www.uan.org/index.cfm?navid=27 #ufchat
12:05 am UF_Chat: Didn’t talk much about writing & storylines this week for obvious reasons but if interested in exploring use of disasters in UF… #UFchat
12:05 am UF_Chat: Regarding writing UF and sci-fi or fantasy based on real life disasters – Writing Hurricane Katrina: http://bit.ly/a4fdIh #UFchat
12:07 am UF_Chat: Writing REAL disasters in UF isn’t as common as you might think – reality is tough & people worry (correctly) about disrespect. #UFchat
12:08 am UF_Chat: Doesn’t mean can’t but is tough topic. UF could do it though – we handle violence against women/kids & help. Can help here too. #UFchat
12:08 am UF_Chat: That?s a wrap for #UFchat. Thanks for participating. Be safe & remember to help where you can -even small things can make big differences.
12:08 am inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 That might be the one! #UFchat
12:10 am UF_Chat: Emergency Animal Rescue Service – EARS People need their animals now more than ever RT @shadowflame1974: http://bit.ly/17DGtk #ufchat
12:11 am itsShanisej: RT @Jess_Haines: #UFchat If you are in US, text REDCROSS to 90999 to donate $10 to the Red Cross. Goes onto your cell phone bill.
12:13 am Jess_Haines: #UFchat Frig. My computer isn’t loading the page, but I think this was the one that had the info on what’s happening with the nuclear
12:13 am UF_Chat: Again – Authors for Japan – can you help? http://bit.ly/f4rpHH #UFchat
12:14 am Jess_Haines: #UFchat power plant and how they’re trying to fix it. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/11/AR2011031103673.html
12:18 am Jess_Haines: #UFchat One last reminder-I am MATCHING your donations to Japan up to $350! Details here: http://bit.ly/fZhcqH Please donate, stop by, & RT!
12:18 am UF_Chat: RT @Jess_Haines: #UFchat One last reminder-I am MATCHING your donations to Japan up to $350! Details here: http://bit.ly/fZhcqH Please donate, stop by, & RT!
12:18 am inkgypsy: RT @Jess_Haines: #UFchat One last reminder-I am MATCHING your donations to Japan up to $350! Details here: http://bit.ly/fZhcqH Please donate, stop by, & RT!
12:19 am QQwill: RT @Jess_Haines: #UFchat One last reminder-I am MATCHING your donations to Japan up to $350! Details here: http://bit.ly/fZhcqH Please donate, stop by, & RT!
12:21 am shadowflame1974: RT @Jess_Haines: #UFchat One last reminder-I am MATCHING your donations to Japan up to $350! Details here: http://bit.ly/fZhcqH Please donate, stop by, & RT!
12:22 am RebeccaTLittle: RT @Jess_Haines: #UFchat One last reminder-I am MATCHING your donations to Japan up to $350! Details here: http://bit.ly/fZhcqH Please donate, stop by, & RT!
12:29 am Jess_Haines: #UFchat Thanks for all the RTs, guys. :)
12:29 am janetsfox: RT @jonfmerz: #ufchat take care all – remember to hug your loved ones tonight and tell them you love them. A lot of Japanese can no longer do even that.

Late comment from @AnassaRh: Have had one idea for supernatural disaster relief: vamps and weres could “save lives” by turning people. #ufchat

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Transcript February 19, 2011: Gods, Monsters, Misfits and Hybrids – how Greek myths are trending in UF in 2011

As you probably know we are having serious issues retrieving the transcripts for UFchat and have been for some time. Please excuse the lack of formatting as I’m trying to get these up as quickly as possible once I get any semblance of the chat together. Thank you.

5:00 pm UF_Chat: Gods, Monsters, Misfits and Hybrids – how Greek myths are trending in UF in 2011 #UFchat 3pm PST/6pm EST
5:00 pm inkgypsy: Gods, Monsters, Misfits and Hybrids – how Greek myths are trending in UF in 2011 #UFchat 3pm PST/6pm EST
5:06 pm Laura_Bickle: RT @UF_Chat: Gods, Monsters, Misfits and Hybrids – how Greek myths are trending in UF in 2011 #UFchat 3pm PST/6pm EST
5:07 pm jillmyles: Ooo! RT @UF_Chat: Gods, Monsters, Misfits and Hybrids – how Greek myths are trending in UF in 2011 #UFchat 3pm PST/6pm EST
5:18 pm tadbo: RT @inkgypsy: Gods, Monsters, Misfits and Hybrids – how Greek myths are trending in UF in 2011 #UFchat 3pm PST/6pm EST
7:51 pm AnassaRh: For the non-squeamish folks at #ufchat: Medical illustrations reveal the anatomy of mythical beings (via @io9) http://t.co/CTKgy4n
7:54 pm AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Maybe mention the problems after #ufchat? Perhaps the hivemind can help.
8:29 pm UF_Chat: Greek mythology-based UF is an emerging trend in UF this year (esp YA UF!) Come discuss in #UFchat at 3pmPST/6pm EST TODAY!
8:29 pm inkgypsy: Greek mythology-based UF is an emerging trend in UF this year (esp YA UF!) Come discuss in #UFchat at 3pmPST/6pm EST TODAY!
8:31 pm marirandomities: RT @uf_chat: Greek mythology-based UF is an emerging trend in UF this year (esp YA UF!) Come discuss in #UFchat at 3pmPST/6pm EST TODAY!
8:32 pm QQwill: RT @UF_Chat: Greek mythology-based UF is an emerging trend in UF this year (esp YA UF!) Come discuss in #UFchat at 3pmPST/6pm EST TODAY!
8:32 pm SecretsWriter: RT @UF_Chat: Greek mythology-based UF is an emerging trend in UF this year (esp YA UF!) Come discuss in #UFchat at 3pmPST/6pm EST TODAY!
8:34 pm inkgypsy: RT @AnassaRh For non-squeamish #ufchat folks: Medical illustrations reveal anatomy of mythical beings (via @io9) http://on.io9.com/ijqXAJ
8:49 pm inkgypsy: @AmaliaTd Going to mention your blog in today’s resource section on #UFchat. Thanks to @AnassaRh for alerting me to the awesome!
9:00 pm inkgypsy: 2 hr countdown to #UFchat! Sick of vamps, weres & zombies but love UF? 2011′s emerging Greek mythology-based UF may be up your alley! 3pmPST
9:00 pm UF_Chat: 2 hr countdown to #UFchat! Sick of vamps, weres & zombies but love UF? 2011′s emerging Greek mythology-based UF may be up your alley! 3pmPST
9:02 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat heads up: Tweetchat appears to be behind this week again (is that almost 2 mnths now?) Suggest finding alt way to follow/participate
9:02 pm inkgypsy: #UFchat heads up: Tweetchat appears to be behind this week again (is that almost 2 mnths now?) Suggest finding alt way to follow/participate
9:04 pm cdreimer: r @inkgypsy You mean Kelly McCullough’s MythOS series (Greek/Norse myths w/computer hacking) is finally catching on? :) #ufchat #justsaying
9:04 pm shadowflame1974: 2 hours to #UFChat Discussion: Greek Mythology and UF
9:05 pm inkgypsy: @cdreimer It’s getting noticed now yes! (I know – it’s nothing new but now there’s a whole slew coming!) #UFchat
9:05 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @shadowflame1974 I was a going to do a greek story for 2012 Olympics but I couldn’t get it to work #UFChat
9:07 pm UF_Chat: @kristiluchi Do you use Tweetdeck? If so add a #UFchat column to watch. Participate by adding the hashtag when tweeting.
9:08 pm UF_Chat: @kristiluchi Alternately look up tweetchat.com (altho be warned it is delayed by few mins) OR use Search Twitter. Look for #UFchat. :)
9:09 pm jbeemills: RT @UF_Chat: Greek mythology-based UF is an emerging trend in UF this year (esp YA UF!) Come discuss in #UFchat at 3pmPST/6pm EST TODAY!
9:11 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: I’m off to have a nap so I can stay awake for #UFChat
9:11 pm cdreimer: @inkgypsy Wouldn’t surprise me if “Percy Jackson & The Olympians” movie (2010) was the inspiration for these wannabes. #ufchat #ohmoney
9:22 pm kristiluchi: If only I could get the hang of #hashtags #ufchat
9:22 pm Queryaddict: Read an excerpt of ‘Hit List’ – on #BookBuzzrhttp://bit.ly/dqby8b #anitablacke, #ufchat
9:24 pm inkgypsy: @cdreimer I think seeing sirens and furies sell well last year helped too. #UFchat But then bks were being written 2 yrs ago… interesting!
9:24 pm inkgypsy: @kristiluchi That worked! You’re in the #UFchat column now. :) Can you see other #UFchat posts?
9:25 pm inkgypsy: @kdueykduey Urban fantasy :) #UFchat
9:25 pm kristiluchi: @inkgypsy I can. Woot! #hashtags are the death of me. I either use too many or none at all. #ufchat
9:28 pm cdreimer: @kristiluchi I remember the days of reading Kim Harrison and Jim Butcher before UF became a genre. Then wannabes came flooding in. #ufchat
9:29 pm UF_Chat: The grotesque & supernatural hybrids meet ancient & modern femme fatales as Greek myth storms UF in a wave in 2011! #UFchat @ 3pmPST
9:29 pm inkgypsy: The grotesque & supernatural hybrids meet ancient & modern femme fatales as Greek myth storms UF in a wave in 2011! #UFchat @ 3pmPST
9:29 pm kdueykduey: inkgypsy #UFchat Of course. A genre I love and almost write.
9:29 pm kristiluchi: @cdreimer I shied away from reading any UF for a long time. But weirdly, long before I read any UF, I found myself writing it #ufchat
9:30 pm shadowflame1974: @kristiluchi Don’t worry about it. I still forget to use them sometimes. #UFChat
9:31 pm inkgypsy: @kdueykduey I love that almost thing. :) We’re talking Greek mythology influenced UF today – lots about to be released for 2011. #UFchat
9:31 pm inkgypsy: @kristiluchi That’s how a lot of us came to it actually! I should have that as a chat topic one day. Writing UF before reading it. #UFchat
9:32 pm kdueykduey: @inkgypsy I love the general trend, that the roots go so deep. I proves human continuity to me…our needs don’t change. #UFchat
9:35 pm inkgypsy: @kdueykduey Yes! People still people, today as ever. & just as w fire, gods likely had cellphones 1st before we stole them ;) #UFchat
9:36 pm kristiluchi: @inkgypsy LOL, I remember being 14 and reading all of the five paranormal vampire books in our little library over and over. #ufchat
9:39 pm kdueykduey: @cdreimer @kristiluchi I have no way to prove it, but I doubt they were all “wannabees”. Things often trend w/o traceable imitation. #UFchat
9:45 pm kristiluchi: I really really should be writing! Why oh why is the internet so aweseome! #ufchat
9:46 pm kristiluchi: @kdueykduey Anne Rice. Never read any of them. #ufchat
9:56 pm MarcUpdates: O.k, Have I got this right then? #UFchat
9:57 pm kristiluchi: yes, especially if you have it saved as a search column. #ufchat
9:58 pm shadowflame1974: 1 hour to Greek Myths and the UF trends. #UFChat
9:58 pm kristiluchi: @MarcUpdates don’t forget the #hashtag, they’ve been messing me up all day. #ufchat
10:00 pm UF_Chat: Aoohgah! 1 hr to #UFchat! Bring boots & kevlar vests & shields. Greek myths R invading UF! Medusa Sirens Furies Valkyries & more! 3pm PST
10:00 pm MarcUpdates: @kristiluchi Bugger, yes, the hashtag is rather important. Bit like fangs on a vampire. #UFchat
10:00 pm kristiluchi: RT @UF_Chat: Aoohgah! 1 hr to #UFchat! Bring boots & kevlar vests & shields. Greek myths R invading UF! Medusa Sirens Furies Valkyries & more! 3pm PST
10:00 pm inkgypsy: Aoohgah! 1 hr to #UFchat! Bring boots & kevlar vests & shields. Greek myths R invading UF! Medusa Sirens Furies Valkyries & more! 3pm PST
10:02 pm shadowflame1974: @MarcUpdates yes you do #UFChat
10:02 pm kristiluchi: @MarcUpdates Yeah, sharp teeth won’t cut it… #ufchat
10:02 pm MarcUpdates: Sparkles on a vampire. Do Not Want! #UFchat
10:03 pm mandymroth: so I have to put my dead-be-dazzler away? RT @MarcUpdates: Sparkles on a vampire. Do Not Want! #UFchat
10:04 pm kristiluchi: @mandymroth NO! Bedazzlers are awesome! #ufchat
10:04 pm mandymroth: sweet! Love it. Very circa 1995 RT @kristiluchi: @mandymroth NO! Bedazzlers are awesome! #ufchat
10:05 pm kristiluchi: @mandymroth LOL, it’s like middle school all over again! #ufchat
10:06 pm mandymroth: @kristiluchi ah, the good ole days #ufchat
10:07 pm kristiluchi: @mandymroth I know… I can pratically feel the jelly shoes and I’m getting the urge to wear a huge tshirt tied in a knot at my hip. #ufchat
10:07 pm MarcUpdates: argh, tweetdeck, why do you torment me with your non-updating column! #UFchat
10:08 pm mandymroth: @kristiluchi if u add a side ponytail to that and sing “hanging touch” you’re set #ufchat
10:08 pm kristiluchi: @mandymroth Don’t forget the Tyedye and Daisy dukes #ufchat
10:09 pm kristiluchi: @MarcUpdates maybe it’s your settings? #ufchat
10:09 pm MarcUpdates: @kristiluchi I have no idea, I’m playing around with them and getting nowhere #ufchat
10:10 pm mandymroth: @kristiluchi come on baby, kick dem daisies… #ufchat
10:10 pm kristiluchi: @mandymroth LOl, or I could go the grunge look, with the holey jeans too. #ufchat
10:13 pm MarcUpdates: O.k, I think I’ve got this figured out now, watch my awesomeness as I use tweetdeck and seesmic! #ufchat
10:15 pm leapetra: RT @inkgypsy: Aoohgah! 1 hr to #UFchat! Bring boots & kevlar vests & shields. Greek myths R invading UF! 3pm PST #ufchat
10:16 pm leapetra: Wait! Valkyries aren’t Greek! But if we are going to talk about the Norse too, that would be cool #ufchat
10:17 pm kristiluchi: @leapetra I think we’re going with all of the old myths. *grin*#ufchat
10:19 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra Heh heh! You win! Was wondering if any would pick up on that! In talking about topic realized lots were mixing up cultures #UFChat
10:19 pm leapetra: @kristiluchi I have been catching up on the Norse and Finnish lately. Research I swear! #ufchat
10:19 pm MarcUpdates: Nope, still not flipping working right #ufchat
10:20 pm shadowflame1974: @inkgypsy @leapetra would be interesting to see a bunch of old mythos meeting in a UF #UFChat
10:20 pm kristiluchi: #hashtags will be the death of me #ufchat
10:21 pm shadowflame1974: @MarcUpdates this will work but sometimes a bit slow http://bit.ly/fikiTb #UFChat
10:22 pm MarcUpdates: So it’s Greek myths tonight, then. I did read the Percy Jackson series. #ufchat
10:22 pm kristiluchi: The combination of them all reminds me of X-Men somewhat… what with the clashing of Ares and Thor… #ufchat
10:22 pm kristiluchi: @MarcUpdates See, and I’ve just read a lot of greek myths. #ufchat
10:23 pm leapetra: @shadowflame1974 actually I know of at least one book already, but I will save it for chat. #ufchat
10:23 pm MarcUpdates: @shadowflame1974 Thank you :) #UFChat
10:24 pm MarcUpdates: So this is just kinda free form ranbling at the moment then? #ufchat
10:24 pm AmaliaTd: I just finished the first 5 Percy Jackson books today. Love them so much! @MarcUpdates #UFchat
10:25 pm shadowflame1974: @MarcUpdates yea kid of a pre-game show lol #UFChat
10:25 pm shadowflame1974: @AmaliaTd I think my oldest has read some of them. I know he saw the movie #UFChat
10:26 pm MarcUpdates: So here’s a question, would Harry Potter count as UF? #UFChat
10:27 pm inkgypsy: @kristiluchi Oh – happy to cover it all! BUT curious about the specifically Greek myth trend (we’ll be discussing it all really) #UFchat
10:29 pm inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 I’ve seen a few from a while back but less successfuly UF – too ‘traditional’ I think? Even used olde language. #UFchat
10:29 pm shadowflame1974: @MarcUpdates well, the Muggle setting is familiar in England, and the fantasy element is the Hogwort’s and wizards and witches #UFChat
10:29 pm AmaliaTd: @shadowflame1974 The movie is awful, compared to the books. It ripped all the life out of them. imho. #UFchat
10:29 pm kristiluchi: @inkgypsy I have my own reasons for choosing to work in the Greek Mythology but it’ll be really intresting to see others’ #ufchat
10:29 pm shadowflame1974: @shadowflame1974 I know of one series that combines 2 established mythos. #UFChat
10:29 pm inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 Could definitely use a UF-ing! ;) It would be interesting/awesome in good authors hands. #UFchat
10:30 pm UF_Chat: In 30 mins: Gods & Monsters ? esp the Greek kind ? why are they coming out of the UF woodwork this year? Come discuss in #UFchat @ 3pm PST
10:30 pm inkgypsy: In 30 mins: Gods & Monsters ? esp the Greek kind ? why are they coming out of the UF woodwork this year? Come discuss in #UFchat @ 3pm PST
10:30 pm inkgypsy: @kristiluchi You know -that’s one Q I forgot to add to my list! Thx – I will add something like that now. :) #UFchat
10:31 pm QQwill: RT @UF_Chat: In 30 mins: Gods & Monsters ? esp the Greek kind ? why are they coming out of the UF woodwork this year? Come discuss in #UFchat @ 3pm PST
10:31 pm AmaliaTd: RT @inkgypsy: In 30 mins: Gods & Monsters ? esp the Greek kind ? why are they coming out of the UF woodwork this year? Come discuss in #UFchat @ 3pm PST
10:31 pm kristiluchi: @inkgypsy Also, I wonder how people are treatingthe immortality and magic issue. #ufchat
10:32 pm MarcUpdates: I was trying to work out earlier, when did UF really start to bloom? Was it interview with a vampire? Buffy? #ufchat
10:34 pm shadowflame1974: @MarcUpdates I believe it started more with the female fatale than an element of vampires or werewolves. #UFChat
10:34 pm inkgypsy: @kristiluchi Immortality is one of the continuous challenges in UF – just because vamps normally have it. (cont) #UFchat
10:35 pm leapetra: @MarcUpdates I think there have always been books that could be called UF, it’s just lately they have their own heading. #UFChat
10:35 pm JeannieHolmes: @MarcUpdates I think it sort of started with Anne Rice but blossomed in late 80s/early 90s with Tanya Huff & LKH. #UFchat
10:35 pm inkgypsy: @kristiluchi My question is how to keep people fro getting bored wth all powerful gods. #UFchat
10:36 pm inkgypsy: @kristiluchi 1 xlnt series lost my interest immediately when MC started turning into a god. :( #UFchat
10:36 pm kristiluchi: @inkgypsy I have a solution to that, it’s all in their personalities… #ufchat
10:38 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy @kristiluchi A lot of the gods have faults. Maybe powerful, but still can mess up. #UFChat
10:38 pm AmaliaTd: @inkgypsy That’s easy– by making them human :) all powerful or not, if they have human vices, they’re fascinating! @kristiluchi #UFchat
10:39 pm kristiluchi: @AmaliaTd @leapetra Exactly. And, they’e lived for thousands and thousands of years, so they’re plob a little batshit. #ufchat
10:39 pm MarcUpdates: @inkgypsy I think you have to stay away from “all powerfull gods” on account that no cost for magic = boring #ufchat
10:39 pm kristiluchi: #ufchat I hear that. To MarySue for me as well. I, personally, plan to use some of the dysfuction in the myths that often get left behind.
10:40 pm inkgypsy: @AmaliaTd YES! Have to have the human element otherwise I am bored with all powerful, lives forever, can-do-anything characs. #UFchat
10:40 pm inkgypsy: @MarcUpdates Completely agree! #UFchat All powerful = no limits = no real challenges/stakes/risks = BORING! #UFchat
10:41 pm leapetra: @kristiluchi look at Thor, not the brightest bulb in the lamp. #UFChat
10:42 pm AmaliaTd: The great thing about the Greek myths, is that those gods ALL have HUGE faults and vices. I think that’s part of the attraction. #UFchat
10:42 pm MarcUpdates: @leapetra Rawr! Thor Plan number 1 HIt With Hammer! Thor Plan number 2, See plan number 1! #ufchat
10:42 pm kristiluchi: @leapetra totally. I read him in a Red Sonya Miniseries and loved it! #ufchat
10:42 pm AmaliaTd: @leapetra Hey now. It isn’t his fault he’s been concussed every day of his life. #ThorLove #UfChat
10:43 pm MarcUpdates: The greek gods were incredibly human, for all their power #ufchat
10:43 pm kristiluchi: @AmaliaTd YES! They are all totally totally screwed up. #ufchat #hashtagfail
10:44 pm MarcUpdates: @AmaliaTd @kristiluchi Weren’t they also inbred like crazy? #ufchat
10:45 pm leapetra: and it doesn’t help that Loki had to get him out of a few jams #Thor #UFChat
10:45 pm AmaliaTd: @MarcUpdates you’re forgetting the DRINK LOTS OF MEAD and EAT EVERYONE OUT OF HOUSE AND HOME. #ThorLove #UFChat
10:45 pm AmaliaTd: @MarcUpdates I don’t think inbreeding is an issue for gods. but yes, Zeus and Hera were brother and sister, etc. #UFChat
10:46 pm AmaliaTd: @leapetra Loki got Thor INTO the jams before he got him OUT of them. #UfChat #ThorLove
10:46 pm MarcUpdates: @AmaliaTd That’s not a plan, that’s “Thor’s Guide to being a goog guest” #ufchat
10:46 pm leapetra: You have to check this out http://www.godchecker.com/ great place for all the gods #ufchat
10:48 pm MarcUpdates: @kristiluchi True, they were batsh*t insane. Do we really need to talk about Zeus’s golden shower? #ufchat
10:48 pm inkgypsy: @MarcUpdates I’ll skip that one thanks! lol #UFchat
10:48 pm kristiluchi: @MarcUpdates No. #ufchat
10:48 pm leapetra: @AmaliaTd You now know why Odin had all that gray hair. Thor and Loki drove him to it. #ufchat
10:49 pm UF_Chat: Good for chat today! For RT @leapetra: You have to check this out http://bit.ly/NIIw great place for all the gods #ufchat
10:49 pm MarcUpdates: @inkgypsy @kristiluchi Yes, skipping _that_ is a great idea. #ufchat
10:50 pm inkgypsy: Primer for #UFchat early birds: Mythology & UF -challenges of using established mythology (by Urban Psychopomp) http://bit.ly/fc3YFv #UFchat
10:50 pm UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds: Mythology & UF -challenges of using established mythology (by Urban Psychopomp) http://bit.ly/fc3YFv #UFchat
10:50 pm AmaliaTd: @leapetra I think a good portion of it was anticipating the end of all things, too. And the hanging himself for wisdom. #ufchat #Leavesamark
10:50 pm MarcUpdates: I always get Odin and Wodin confused. #ufchat
10:50 pm kristiluchi: @MarcUpdates One of my favorite things about the gods are their wives. Reference Hera and Amphitrite. #ufchat
10:51 pm inkgypsy: Alright – strapping on the #UFchat boots & my #UFchat helmet, changing to mod mode- we’re taking on the gods today! (& other Greek myths ;)
10:51 pm leapetra: @MarcUpdates almost the same. One’s German, the other Norse #ufchat
10:52 pm NJBuchanan: RT @leapetra: You have to check this out http://www.godchecker.com/ great place for all the gods #ufchat
10:52 pm AmaliaTd: @kristiluchi Amphitrite seems so much more resigned to Poseidon’s affairs than Hera is to Zeus’. #Ufchat
10:52 pm MarcUpdates: @leapetra So the mythology is mirrored? #ufchat
10:53 pm UF_Chat: Got lost in #UFchat last time thx to #tweetchatfail? Alts: use Tweetdeck & add #UFchat column or online: Twitter Search http://bit.ly/eSSP2F
10:53 pm shadowflame1974: @MarcUpdates some are. #UFChat has mostly to do with cross cultures
10:53 pm kristiluchi: @AmaliaTd I alway thought of her more as more, accepting as a part of his personality. Hera is so violent, even blaming the women. #ufchat
10:54 pm inkgypsy: @AmaliaTd @leapetra Impending apocalypses give gods gray hair? There’s something col about that. ;) #UFchat
10:54 pm kristiluchi: Amphtritie was very welcoming and understanding to the women and the offspring. #ufchat
10:54 pm leapetra: Funny thing was earlier today I found a link to a person claiming Hello Kitty was evil, because she looked like Bast. Go figure #ufchat
10:55 pm leapetra: @MarcUpdates Like the Greeks and the Romans #ufchat
10:55 pm AmaliaTd: @kristiluchi Yeah, Hera is exceptionally cruel. It’s pretty disturbing how much punishment she doles out to the women involved. #UfChat
10:55 pm dref22: RT @leapetra: Funny thing was earlier today I found a link to a person claiming Hello Kitty was evil, because she looked like Bast. Go figure #ufchat
10:55 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra Well of COURSE she is – Hello Kitty being Bast that is. Evil? Only sometimes. ;) I’m kinda curious about the link… #UFchat
10:55 pm MarcUpdates: Considering todays subject, I’ve just realised that Wonderwoman counts as Urban Fantasy :D #ufchat
10:56 pm kristiluchi: @AmaliaTd A lot of them are. Medusa got he raw shaft of the deal from Athena. #ufchat
10:57 pm MarcUpdates: Promethius, now there’s someone thatgot a raw deal #ufchat
10:57 pm AmaliaTd: @kristiluchi So did Callisto, by Artemis. I actually have a series on my blog right now about Affairs of the Gods + fallout #ufchat
10:57 pm inkgypsy: @MarcUpdates Aaaand there you see one of reasons why I think superheroes and UF are 1st cousins. #UFchat (re Wonder Woman)
10:58 pm TENscribeshop: Okay #UFchat , I’m ecstatic about today’s topic. Did I miss the whole chat?
10:58 pm inkgypsy: @MarcUpdates I really want to have a superheroes vs UF kicka$$ vigilantes chat one day but think would be good with a guest. #UFchat
10:58 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy Hello Kitty is evil? This person thinks so. Thank goodness the response was right on the money. http://ow.ly/3ZAy9 #ufchat
10:58 pm AmaliaTd: @inkgypsy Superheroes are the continuation and rebirth of old Myths, all the way! Closer than first cousins, I’d say! #ufchat
10:59 pm MarcUpdates: @inkgypsy Sounds like a plan to me! #ufchat
10:59 pm johanncarlisle: still trying to think of the killer segue between #cyberpunkchat over here and #ufchat starting over there ;-)
10:59 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: #UFChat Ben signing in – let’s hope I can stay awake.
11:00 pm leapetra: BTW watching Two Towers while in chat today. talk about a series influenced by myth #UFChat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: 3, 2, 1… & now we?re live with #UFchat! Today we?re looking at emerging trend of Greek myth in UF (incl YA).
11:01 pm UF_Chat: Got so caught up in Uf discussion I almost forgot to actually start! #UFchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: Gods & Monsters ? esp the Greek kind ? why are they coming out of the UF woodwork this year? #UFchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: Reminder: ?S? stands for statement which will be followed by a ?Q? (a related #UFchat question for discussion).
11:01 pm johanncarlisle: maybe #cyberpunkchat and #ufchat both inhabit #noir space? so we’re handing over the raincape and the spraycan to a more romantic graffitist
11:01 pm UF_Chat: S: After angels & demons in 2010, 2011 showing new trend of Greek mythology as base for many new UF books & series – esp in YA. #UFchat
11:01 pm DawnEmbers: finished cleaning in time for #UFchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: Q1: Are you aware of any books/series that have used Greek mythology to date (not necessarily new)? #UFchat
11:02 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat I wasn’t aware this was a new trend #UFChat
11:02 pm QQwill: @UF_Chat Just this year? #UFchat
11:02 pm inkgypsy: @johanncarlisle UF has strong noir roots – VERY strong. About as much as the horror roots actually. #UFchat
11:02 pm shadowflame1974: @johanncarlisle lol i think we do! #UFChat
11:02 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: A1 Apart from the YA Olympian books? #UFChat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: @QQwill We’ve had a smattering before but apparently in the release pipeline are a ton coming inn 2011 – esp YA. #UFchat
11:03 pm QQwill: @UF_Chat Q1 Doesn’t the Webnage series include Greek mythology? #UFchat
11:03 pm AmaliaTd: I think a lot of the popularity is capitalizing off Percy Jackson in middle grade. Clearly there is a solid market he’s tapped into. #ufchat
11:03 pm amandabonilla: I’ve heard YA is going to see more of this trend. Not so sure about the adult market #ufchat
11:03 pm inkgypsy: @Ben_Aaronovitch Yes – in addition to those there are more furies, sirens and medusa offsprings coming, among others. #UFchat
11:04 pm leapetra: S Where do we start Percy Jackson for one. A lot of Neil Gaimen works #UFChat
11:04 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @inkgypsy Just shows how easy it is to miss stuff. #UFchat
11:04 pm kristiluchi: I think that the adult market will be a completly different animal than the YA market. #ufchat
11:04 pm inkgypsy: @amandabonilla Adult market is showing more furies and sirens for starters. #UFchat
11:05 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @inkgypsy Titles? #UFchat
11:05 pm QQwill: @amandabonilla That’s what I was wondering. I don’t keep up with YA that much. Not enough time. #UFchat
11:05 pm amandabonilla: @QQwill Me either1 There’s too much good adult market stuff out there! :) #ufchat
11:05 pm AmaliaTd: I think the adult market will go more toward historical fiction, retelling the myths, than UF. but that is just imho. #ufchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: @kristiluchi Oh agreed but they do influence each other as many readers (& writers!) read YA UF specifically too. #UFchat
11:05 pm leapetra: Do they still teach the Greek myths in school? I don’t remember my kids talking about it. Maybe there is a need? #UFChat
11:05 pm cdreimer: Lurking in #ufchat for today. Revising a short story about a murderous shopping cart possessed by the spirit of an angry senior citizen.
11:06 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @AmaliaTd I think it will be dominated by British police wizards #ufchat
11:06 pm QQwill: @inkgypsy I think PNR has been full of Greek mythology for years. I know there is some UF… #UFchat
11:06 pm amandabonilla: I wouldn’t mind seeing more mythology, especially Greek, in adult UF #ufchat
11:06 pm DavidalBarron: @johanncarlisle How about “Dudes…urban cyberpunk with magic!” #ufchat
11:06 pm QQwill: @amandabonilla I just can’t read it all. #ufchat
11:06 pm inkgypsy: @Ben_Aaronovitch I only had time to gather hard evidence (cover & synopsis) on a few & will show but pub rumors abound. #UFchat
11:07 pm leapetra: A series my sons used to read The Viking was about the Norse Gods and the NFL #UFChat
11:07 pm amandabonilla: @QQwill Not enough hours in the day! #ufchat
11:07 pm Book_Faery: @genashowalter‘s Atlantis series (PNR) has Greek my aspects. Think PNRs use it a lot more than UF @QQwill @inkgypsy #UFchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: @QQwill Agreed – think the focus is shifting from setting & other charcs to MCs tho – from all indications anyway. #UFchat
11:07 pm QQwill: @amandabonilla There is a book coming out on 2/22 that uses Greek myth in a very cool way. Loved it. #UFchat
11:07 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @leapetra I’d prefer norse gods – or some mythology I don’t know #UFChat
11:07 pm amandabonilla: I think if adult writers are going to tackle these mythologies, they’re going to have to be presented in a much grittier, darker way #ufchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: Q2: What do you think the draw is for writers to use mythology in the UF stories? #UFchat
11:08 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra no really more of a side project anymore #UFChat #UFChat
11:08 pm amandabonilla: @UF_Chat S2 I think it makes world building easier to have a concrete story and set of rules to pull from #ufchat
11:08 pm leapetra: as for the adult market. Satyrs are fun to write :D #UFChat
11:08 pm Book_Faery: @QQwill @inkgypsy Though I will say my UF series uses elements from Greek myth for back story. @Jess_Haines uses too I believe #UFchat
11:08 pm inkgypsy: @amandabonilla Agreed – also hard not to get caught up in ‘soap’ aspect which OK for PNR but notsomuch straight UF. #UFchat
11:08 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: RT @Ben_Aaronovitch: A2 Mythologies tend to represent a body of very primal stories that have stood the test of time. #ufchat
11:09 pm amandabonilla: @QQwill Nice! Are you going to review it? #ufchat
11:09 pm root2702: @johanncarlisle The “American god” of technolgy in _American Gods_ might be your cyberwar>urbanFantasy fulcrum #cyberpunkchat #UFChat
11:09 pm kristiluchi: S: I think it’s the ability to use a pre-created world and change and alter it to your tastes. like the vampires. #ufchat
11:09 pm cindymariej: @UF_Chat Common stories most people have in their consciousness. May not know exact story of Achilles’ heel, but doesn’t sound good #ufchat
11:09 pm Book_Faery: Greek my = Greek myth. RT @Book_Faery: @genashowalter‘s Atlantis series (PNR) has Greek my aspects. …@QQwill @inkgypsy #UFchat
11:09 pm AmaliaTd: A2: I think these are stories which resonate deeply. The heroes suffer cruel fates. no guaranteed happy ending. Tragedy abounds. #ufchat
11:09 pm QQwill: @amandabonilla Already did review it but did not want to reveal what mythology and what myth! #UFchat
11:09 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @cindymariej Good Point #ufchat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: @Book_Faery Yes Greek myths been used in b/story since UF ‘appeared’ but Greek myth charcs appearing more as MCs this yr apparently #UFchat
11:10 pm amandabonilla: @QQwill I’ll go back and check it out! #ufchat
11:10 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat A2 All stories draw from myths, think of the archetypes #UFChat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: Q3: What are some different ways UF writers could mine mythology for material? #UFchat
11:11 pm QQwill: @UF_Chat Ah. Rob Thurman has secondary almost main character that is a Greek myth. #UFchat
11:11 pm cindymariej: What do you think is the reason most people use Greek myths and not Roman versions? #ufchat
11:11 pm AmaliaTd: A2: the world we’re living in right now seems similar– just as frightening as having unjust gods ruling over us. #ufchat
11:11 pm amandabonilla: I used Furies in an UF series I started. The myths worked perfectly for what I needed #ufchat
11:11 pm johanncarlisle: @amandabonilla I don’t think of retellings of Greek myth as particularly gritty & dark (but originals sure are gruesome & visceral!) #ufchat
11:11 pm MarcUpdates: @cindymariej Because they want to avoid jokes about Uranus us my guess #ufchat
11:11 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @cindymariej Especially since most of our knowledge of Greek myths come from Roman texts #ufchat
11:12 pm cindymariej: @UF_Chat Sorry, I just threw a question into #UFchat . Didn’t mean to overstep.
11:12 pm amandabonilla: @johanncarlisle Exactly. UF is sort of dark, so I don’t see it coming off like it should. #ufchat
11:12 pm kristiluchi: A3: Read the originals, and interpet things for yourselves There are many stories that wereproved true, Troy, and proved exaggerated #ufchat
11:12 pm QQwill: @Ben_Aaronovitch Perhaps we feel that the Greeks were first and the Romans borrowed? #ufchat
11:12 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat Maybe it’s bc Vamps, Werewolves, Witches, etc are all overdone since the influx of para stories. Important to be unique? #UFchat
11:12 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat A3 my mind just went blank there are so many ways. #UFChat
11:13 pm susan_see: @leapetra shoot I never got taught such topics in school but then I lived in a shitty town w/ shitty schools. I explored on my own #UFChat
11:13 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: A3 A contrast in how standards of heroism have changed #UFchat
11:13 pm UF_Chat: @Book_Faery There’s definite indication that pubs stopped buying vamps for a while (unless your series already established) #UFchat
11:13 pm kristiluchi: A3: the minatour: there really was a maze and a city, but it was just weaponless bull fighters. #ufchat
11:13 pm johanncarlisle: @cindymariej that’s a good point; we know most of the Greek myths through the canon (Shakespeare, poets etc) rather than ancient art #ufchat
11:13 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat And I so wanted to an angsty vampire story :( #UFchat
11:14 pm AmaliaTd: @Ben_Aaronovitch that’s a really good one. heroics of the past compared to today are sooo different. #ufchat
11:14 pm leapetra: @cindymariej Greeks were the first, the Roman’s ursupred them. Except for Romulus not much added #UFChat
11:14 pm UF_Chat: @Book_Faery It’s odd re releases tho as seems many were writing Greek myth MCs at same time (2 yrs ago) when not much on shelves. #UFchat
11:14 pm MarcUpdates: @Ben_Aaronovitch What? Another one? ;) #ufchat
11:14 pm UF_Chat: Q4: What might be some challenges for a writer in using mythology? #UFchat
11:14 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @MarcUpdates I just can’t get enough #ufchat
11:14 pm johanncarlisle: @cindymariej which probably makes them less mysterious and dark-fantasy than other mythologies: Norse or Egyptian or Celtic/New Age. #ufchat
11:15 pm DavidalBarron: If fauns/minotaurs aren’t ‘generic’ at this point, I’ve seen an uptick (in short stories). An urban faun, even. #ufchat
11:15 pm shadowflame1974: I think a lot of origional Greek mythos is a lot like Brother’s Grimm fairy tales. Darker in the beginning #UFChat
11:15 pm amandabonilla: A4 I think you run the risk of offending traditionalists if you put personal spin on any mythology #ufchat
11:15 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: Q4 Making the heroes sympathetic. #UFchat
11:15 pm AmaliaTd: A4: Making it your own, primarily. Staying true to the myth while recreating it uniquely. It’s a fine line to walk! #ufchat
11:15 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat A4: making the story your own, while still staying “true” (using that word loosely) to the myths #ufchat
11:15 pm MarcUpdates: @Ben_Aaronovitch Well, I’m sure there are plenty of clone of a certain dusk baed book to go around atm :) #ufchat
11:15 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat for me, right now. Finding Troll information that is not WOW related. lol #UFChat
11:15 pm UF_Chat: @amandabonilla Culturally you mean? #UFchat
11:16 pm MarcUpdates: @leapetra Try adding Norway to your search terms, Norway is BIG on trolls #ufchat
11:16 pm UF_Chat: One thing I DIDN’T find is present day Greek thoughts on Greek mythology – is it as precious as eg Native American? Anyone know? #UFchat
11:16 pm QQwill: @Book_Faery A4 Give a different spin on why things happened in a myth. #ufchat
11:16 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat I do make references to Greek mythology in my second book. It will have greater significance later. @Book_Faery @QQwill @inkgypsy
11:17 pm leapetra: @amandabonilla I don’t think that is possible. Each myth gets retold and retooled through the years #UFChat
11:17 pm DavidalBarron: I engage in what I call “fictional syncretism”. I’ll just grab whatever myths sound good and toss ‘em in the stew. #ufchat
11:17 pm johanncarlisle: @leapetra @cindymariej that’s more about the way the myths have survived into canon. Plenty of Roman/Etruscan myths parallel to Grks #ufchat
11:17 pm amandabonilla: @UF_Chat Culturally, for sure. Or even those who might say, “That’s not how it goes” if you put your own spin on it #ufchat
11:17 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat Well Since vamps are so pop, it’s difficult to come up with something unique/new to include to make them stand out #ufchat
11:17 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @DavidalBarron What Pratchett calls the cauldron of story #ufchat
11:17 pm UF_Chat: S: Kasey Mackenzie?s UF series unique w Fury as MC -not just creature. (Bk 2 soon -cover + comments here: http://on.fb.me/hX2vfJ ) #UFchat
11:17 pm UF_Chat: Q5: What do you think of a Fury as a UF protagonist? #UFchat
11:18 pm DavidalBarron: Then I let my characters eat the stew and see how they feel afterwards. Very multi-cultural, international. #ufchat
11:18 pm AmaliaTd: OH! a good UF Greek Myth book for Adults is Gods Behaving Badly by Marie Phillips. (sorry that’s so late but true!) #Ufchat
11:18 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Can we discuss here or would that be spoilerish? #Ufchat
11:18 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat Greek myth chars unexplored means making them refreshing & your own without having to worry abt “copying” another’s ideas #ufchat
11:18 pm cindymariej: @leapetra It really probably comes down to how we heard about them like @johanncarlisle said. I’m studying that now, fascinating #ufchat
11:18 pm amandabonilla: A5: you could totally use a fury as a protag. It’d have to be written well. A nice, gray area character #ufchat
11:19 pm johanncarlisle: @amandabonilla there’s a fine line between adapting a myth and “getting it wrong” (perhaps out of ignorance), that will upset people #ufchat
11:19 pm shadowflame1974: @UF_Chat I don’t think so. mostly Greek mythos was replaced by other religions. #UFChat
11:19 pm leapetra: Along with Native American, lesser known (at least for Westerners) myths haven’t been touched much #UFChat
11:19 pm cindymariej: @UF_Chat When can I read it? (Q5) #ufchat
11:19 pm MarcUpdates: I just remembered Tom Holt, he’s written a lot of Urban (comedic) fantasy, involving all sorts of mythology #ufchat
11:19 pm amandabonilla: @johanncarlisle Thanks! You articulated what I was TRYING to say! ;) #ufchat
11:19 pm UF_Chat: @AmaliaTd That’s an older book – right? 80s release?? (bad memory there sorry) #UFchat Seen it recommended too.
11:19 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat @UF_Chat I’m OK with discussing some of it. If it gets too spoilerish I will keep my mouth shut. *g*
11:19 pm DavidalBarron: @Ben_Aaronovitch The cauldron of story contains the stew. (Nice save, David!) #ufchat
11:20 pm cindymariej: So many great retellings of Greek myths – they really enhance the imagination #ufchat
11:20 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: What was Q5? #ufchat
11:20 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines So what inspired you to use Greek myths in book? Are they mainly in background or new main characs? #UFchat
11:20 pm AmaliaTd: @UF_Chat 2004, actually! So not that old. And it’s really fun. #Ufchat
11:21 pm inkgypsy: @Ben_Aaronovitch Q5: What do you think of a Fury as a UF protagonist? #UFchat
11:21 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat @UF_Chat Having a little lag, might take a sec for me to get the full answer out–please bear with me.
11:21 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @inkgypsy Thanks #UFchat
11:22 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Think we’ve all got the weird lag/echo factor happening today! #UFchat
11:22 pm UF_Chat: Q6: What other characters/creatures of Greek mythology do you think would make good protagonists (not just as supporting)? #UFchat
11:23 pm Agiliste: Many writers hold that a god is created by the faith of its followers, this could work :) @root2702: @johanncarlisle #cyberpunkchat #UFChat
11:23 pm QQwill: @UF_Chat Any that have not been main characters in comic books! #ufchat
11:23 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat In my second book, you learn that Alec Royce, the master vampire of New York, hails from Ancient Greece. His nemesis, Max Carlyle,
11:23 pm Book_Faery: A6: Harpy, siren, maybe offspring of a god/goddess, or offspring of a character in The Odyssey… #ufchat
11:23 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: A^ Odysseus #ufchat
11:23 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Satyrs, Sirens (a pop star perhaps), #UFChat
11:23 pm AmaliaTd: A6: I think the Minotaur is really interesting to explore as a protagonist. It isn’t really his fault, but he pays with his life. #ufchat
11:23 pm amandabonilla: @Book_Faery Sirens would be great. Dryads too. #ufchat
11:23 pm MarcUpdates: A6. Hmm.. The Pythia could make a good protagonist #ufchat
11:23 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat is also from Greece. Some may or may not have noticed that Max’s real name, referenced late in the book, is Euphron–who is a real
11:23 pm UF_Chat: S: Altho many beings in Greek myth the problem of gods & goddesses bound to turn up. #UFchat
11:24 pm ladytechie: A6 Grae Sisters #UFChat
11:24 pm UF_Chat: Q6a: Immortal/all-powerful = no real limits or true risks = boring. How could you avoid this trap in writing story using a god/dess? #UFchat
11:24 pm amandabonilla: @UF_Chat I avoid the god/goddess angle for exactly that reason. The story dies when there’s no stakes #ufchat
11:24 pm AmaliaTd: (Snorri traces the lineage of the Norse “gods” back to Troy and King Priam, just as a sidenote of awesome.) #ufchat
11:24 pm johanncarlisle: @UF_Chat A6: Proteus, the shapechanging old man of the sea? Satyrs (not to be confused with fauns: sex-crazed, horse-maned savages)? #ufchat
11:25 pm UF_Chat: Dryads! Which reminds me I’ve seen a couple of writers working on Dryad books the last 2 yrs too! #UFchat @amandabonilla
11:25 pm QQwill: @UF_Chat Make them a demi-god/dess. #ufchat
11:25 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: A6a have them move in mysterious ways or be limited by an agreement #UFchat
11:25 pm MarcUpdates: @UF_Chat A6a- well, the cliche would be stick them on earth with amneisia #ufchat
11:25 pm Book_Faery: A6a: Trap their power in some way. Or do something similar to @kresleycole. Freya was in slumber bc she didn’t have enough (cont) #ufchat
11:25 pm DawnEmbers: #UFchat Q6 – think as long as there are consequences, and something they fear (even if they can’t die) it’s possible to have a god/dess
11:25 pm Book_Faery: a6a (cont): followers praying to her often… thus severely limiting her energy etc bc of that #ufchat
11:25 pm AmaliaTd: A6a: I don’t think immortal and god in Greek myth equals all powerful. These were gods with limits to what they do/their powers. #ufchat
11:26 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat A6a Zeus was a player, Hera = Jealous, Vulcan = ugly. the myths already have the traits there #UFChat
11:26 pm UF_Chat: Q6b: What about other cultural mythologies? What other specifically MYTH creatures/characs would make for interesting protags? #UFchat
11:26 pm Book_Faery: @amandabonilla Sirens could be so fun. Haven’t read any stories with dryads. Cyclops! lol #ufchat
11:27 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: A6b I’ve always had a soft spot for Ellegbu/Legba #UFchat
11:27 pm kristiluchi: I’m using Mermaids. With very specific traits and leinage. and addictive personalities. #ufchat
11:27 pm leapetra: Adams has the Norse gods hanging around London as the homeless! #UFChat
11:27 pm johanncarlisle: @Book_Faery ooh yes! How about Circe, or Circe and Telemachus’ mythical child? Talk about a dysfunctional family background to carry #ufchat
11:27 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra Would like story of Thor offspring – lightning, tempers, strength, blunders… but not straight gods. (personal pref) #UFchat
11:27 pm MarcUpdates: A6c. Oooh.. a minotaur :D #ufchat
11:27 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @leapetra But they’ve redeveloped St pancras now. #UFChat
11:28 pm shadowflame1974: @kristiluchi Chirs Howard uses mermaids too. #UFChat
11:28 pm inkgypsy: @johanncarlisle Circe is one of the ones I’m surprised hasn’t popped up much yet! #UFchat
11:28 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat I have been read up on the Finnish myths. There are some brutal and heart breaking stories there #UFChat
11:28 pm amandabonilla: I’d like to see more Norse mythology in UF #ufchat
11:28 pm UF_Chat: Q6c: What aspects of a creature are important to consider in turning them from character to an MC in UF? #UFchat
11:28 pm Book_Faery: @johanncarlisle Circe or Calypso… both would have interesting children, I think :) Or maybe Cerberus could make shifter puppies! #ufchat
11:28 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: China and India have their own very active UF scene (not that they call it that) #UFchat
11:29 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat person out of Greek history. They share the same sire, Athena-as in the goddess. *g* Had fun coming up with that twist on legend.
11:29 pm Book_Faery: A6c: angst and emotional baggage. The more, the better #ufchat
11:29 pm johanncarlisle: @inkgypsy yeah, funny how Calypso seems to be much more used nowadays, although she’s really backgrounded in Odyssey #ufchat
11:29 pm amandabonilla: RT @Book_Faery: A6c: angst and emotional baggage. The more, the better #ufchat
11:29 pm AmaliaTd: @amandabonilla Age of Odin by James Lovegrove and Norse Code by Greg Van Eekhout are good Norse UF #Ufchat
11:29 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat *pokes at computer* Damn, this thing is slow today.
11:29 pm amandabonilla: @AmaliaTd Sounds awesome! Thanks! #ufchat
11:30 pm kristiluchi: *switches to lurk mode* I can’t keep up with #ufchat
11:30 pm QQwill: @amandabonilla Lovegrove also has the Age of Ra. Got it today. #ufchat
11:31 pm inkgypsy: @Ben_Aaronovitch I’m very interested in both of those – need to read more of UF ocming from there! #UFchat
11:31 pm inkgypsy: @Book_Faery Cerberus <3! #UFchat :D
11:31 pm leapetra: It helps to have an interest in Folk Metal if you want to look at myths in a new light #UFChat
11:31 pm amandabonilla: @kristiluchi It moves quick! ;) #ufchat
11:31 pm kevmcveigh: Greek & Roman myths have been reused in Sff as long as I’ve been reading. See Wolfe, Waldrop, Robert Silverberg, Jones etc #ufchat #notnew
11:32 pm QQwill: @Ben_Aaronovitch Can you recommend some books from China and India? @inkgypsy #UFchat
11:32 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Ah right! Now I remember – I got all mixed up with ‘expanded’ myth-ed history & the actual myths. *eyeroll* #UFchat
11:32 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat Anyway. I have a love of Greece, so it seemed like an excellent choice to draw on those myths and some actual historical
11:32 pm Book_Faery: @inkgypsy Yeah! :D You see glimpses of him in some books, but he’s usually a mindless side character #ufchat
11:32 pm kristiluchi: @amandabonilla it does! #ufchat
11:32 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @leapetra That just gave me a vision of Thor and Loki slumming it at Glastonbury #UFChat
11:33 pm MyNeedToRead: Not gonna lie, itd be pretty exciting to see some UF with some mythology from anywhere on the African continent. #UFchat Know some? tell me!
11:33 pm johanncarlisle: @kevmcveigh sure, but some characters/stories are more used than others. Challenge would be to find something fresh and make it noir #ufchat
11:33 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @QQwill I wish I could but it’s all in languages that I don’t read #UFchat
11:33 pm Book_Faery: @MyNeedToRead Oooh, yes, that would be interesting! #ufchat
11:33 pm amandabonilla: @MyNeedToRead Agreed! I’d love to see African mythology in the UF spotlight #ufchat
11:33 pm kristiluchi: Does anyone care to know what drives me nuts about current mermaid books out here? #ufchat
11:34 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat personalities to create the background to make my story. I’ve rewritten many Greek legends in my notes to suit the Other-verse.
11:34 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Which begs the question – do your vampires have any weaving/spider-like tendencies…? #UFchat
11:34 pm QQwill: @Ben_Aaronovitch That’s what I was wondering if there were translations. My Sanskrit is rustly. #ufchat
11:34 pm leapetra: @Ben_Aaronovitch And they would not seem out of place! #UFChat
11:34 pm amandabonilla: @kristiluchi Mermaids are a toughie. I’ve seen a lot of them in YA, but not as much in adult #ufchat
11:34 pm AmaliaTd: @kristiluchi Is it the fact that they’re blending mermaids with sirens? #Petpeeve #ufchat
11:34 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @leapetra I bet they wouldn’t be covered in mud though #UFChat
11:34 pm johanncarlisle: @MyNeedToRead there must be Egyptian mythology in UF, no? (Can’t name any, but I bet others can.) #ufchat
11:35 pm leapetra: @MyNeedToRead That would be awesome. Maori too #UFChat
11:35 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines I could just see her biting herself in ass by imbuing her vamps w Arachne characteristics coming back to haunt her.. #UFchat
11:35 pm kevmcveigh: @UF_Chat re Q6c the ONLY thing that makes a character suitable for UF is engagement with Urban environment. That is all. #ufchat
11:35 pm amandabonilla: @johanncarlisle I’ve definitely seen Egyptian mythology in UF. #ufchat
11:35 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat @inkgypsy Only in terms of the plots they weave. *g*
11:35 pm Book_Faery: Would also love to see more Egyptian myth in UF also. Or maybe having two myth worlds collide #ufchat
11:35 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: A? Stripped of their powers and working 9-5 would be fun #UFchat
11:36 pm inkgypsy: @kevmcveigh There must also be a supernatural/paranormal element either in character or for them to be influenced by. #UFchat
11:36 pm MyNeedToRead: @johanncarlisle Indeed, yer right. ^_^ I’ll amend to say, OTHER than Egyptian, which has indeed been used more than a few times. #UFchat
11:36 pm amandabonilla: @Ben_Aaronovitch I like to see powerful characters have to deal with normality #ufchat
11:36 pm UF_Chat: S: Sirens are also appearing more and more in UF as well. #UFchat
11:36 pm UF_Chat: Q7: What is it about sirens that people like? #UFchat
11:36 pm JeannieHolmes: @MyNeedToRead I believe L.A. Banks uses some African myths in her Vampire Huntress series. #ufchat
11:37 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @amandabonilla That was my thinking. Having to out think their opponents rather than just smiting them #ufchat
11:37 pm leapetra: I would love to have Baba Yaga show up in a city, but instead of her house on chicken legs, an RV #UFChat
11:37 pm UF_Chat: Q7a: Altho YA has a lot of mermaids adult UF has more sirens than mermaids. Why is that? #UFchat
11:37 pm johanncarlisle: @MyNeedToRead is all UF set in American/ European cities? UF in Nairobi or Lagos would have huge mythological potential wouldn’t it? #ufchat
11:37 pm amandabonilla: @Ben_Aaronovitch Not that smiting isn’t fun too! ;) #ufchat
11:37 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat Sirens – any exemplar titles? #UFchat
11:38 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @amandabonilla You can work up to smiting – Daddies got his mojo back (zaaaap) #ufchat
11:38 pm inkgypsy: @Ben_Aaronovitch Charlie Madigan series, Cat Adams series and carp I forget the other big one. :/ #UFchat
11:38 pm amandabonilla: @Ben_Aaronovitch LOL! #ufchat
11:38 pm johanncarlisle: @leapetra an RV with chicken legs? Painted with flowers and feathers… #ufchat
11:38 pm AmaliaTd: A7 the blending of mermaids and sirens really annoys me, to be honest. and it’s everywhere. Sirens =/= mermaid. #ufchat
11:38 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @inkgypsy Thanks #UFchat
11:39 pm QQwill: @Ben_Aaronovitch Is your Rivers mythology based on realy mythology or did you make that up? #ufchat
11:39 pm Book_Faery: A7a: The Little Mermaid! Haven’t read any YAs about mermaid, but perhaps they follow similar path? #ufchat
11:39 pm UF_Chat: Q8: Why do you think it?s specifically GREEK mythology that?s capturing imaginations right NOW (eg not Norse tho many love that too) #UFchat
11:39 pm kristiluchi: A7 It’s the seduction factor it comes from Ulysses meeting them in the ocean, and bird harpys with beautiful voices aren’t sexy. #ufchat
11:39 pm amandabonilla: @UF_Chat A8 Maybe the whole Percy Jackson thing? #ufchat
11:40 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @QQwill Sort of (sorry is complicated) #ufchat
11:40 pm Book_Faery: A8: I grew up reading lots abt Greek myth. Never heard anything about Norse myth etc until much older. Maybe same for others too? #ufchat
11:40 pm kristiluchi: #ufchat A8 I think that the greek gods names are mor familiar.
11:40 pm UF_Chat: S: On other hand, tho Valkyries AREN?T of Greek myth origin (they?re Norse) easy to see where people get confused. #UFchat
11:40 pm leapetra: @johanncarlisle not flowers for her, Skulls. Damn she would be a biker, I could see it! LOL #UFChat
11:40 pm UF_Chat: @Book_Faery That’s a REALLY good point! Didn’t think of that! #UFchat
11:40 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @kristiluchi Except for Hercules #ufchat
11:40 pm UF_Chat: RT @Book_Faery: A8: I grew up reading lots abt Greek myth. Never heard anything about Norse myth etc until much older. Maybe same for others too? #ufchat
11:41 pm UF_Chat: Q8a: What other different cultural myths might work well in a Greek myth/UF environment (and story!)? #UFchat
11:41 pm gadget_girl66: @Jess_Haines Since they’ve mentioned sirens & mermaids, why is it I can see Max keeping 1 or the other captive just because? #UFchat
11:42 pm MyNeedToRead: @johanncarlisle Definitely! There’s a whole crew of possibilities. Yoruba mythology alone…oh, the possibilities! ^_^ #UFchat
11:42 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat @gadget_girl66 Who says he doesn’t? *innocent look*
11:42 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra Baba Yaga <3!! She and her chicken legged hut are possibly my favorites of all time. Such a complex character! #UFchat
11:42 pm inkgypsy: S: Note: Appears Greek myth charac/MCs more directly fr Myth than characs used fr Celtic tho those creatures almost staples of UF. #UFchat
11:42 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Greeks weren’t big on battle maidens #UFChat
11:43 pm UF_Chat: S: Note: Appears Greek myth charac/MCs more directly fr Myth than characs used fr Celtic tho those creatures almost staples of UF. #UFchat
11:43 pm UF_Chat: S cont: eg Cernunnos? story and character rarely explored, esp not from an MCs POV. #UFchat
11:43 pm CanYouRecommend: #canyourecommend RT @QQwill @Ben_Aaronovitch Can you recommend some books from China and India? @inkgypsy #UFchat
11:43 pm UF_Chat: Q8a: Why do you think Greek myth based UF is more directly Greek myth related than previous (eg) Celtic based UF? #UFchat
11:44 pm gadget_girl66: @Jess_Haines Do you ever incorporate fans ideas into your writing? #UFchat
11:44 pm amandabonilla: Serious lag today. Urgh! #ufchat
11:44 pm MarcUpdates: I’d really like to see more stuff dealing with asian myths and legends, Barry Hughart did a great fantasy series on chi mythos #ufchat
11:44 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat @gadget_girl66 If you count my beta readers, yes.
11:44 pm Jess_Haines: @amandabonilla Tell me about it! #UFchat
11:44 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat Celtic is much less well defined and documented than Greek #UFchat
11:44 pm leapetra: I could see Thor (Norse) and Perun (Slavic) getting into a fight. Because they are so similar. #UFChat
11:44 pm UF_Chat: Q8b: How is it CURRENT Greek myth-based UF appears both more faithful yet less like retellings than UF using (eg) Celtic mythology? #UFchat
11:45 pm amandabonilla: @Jess_Haines *rolls eyes* Seriously! ;) #ufchat
11:45 pm shadowflame1974: @UF_Chat Greek is much more familiar than Norse. We have planets and such named after Greek/Roman Gods #UFChat
11:45 pm MarcUpdates: @Ben_Aaronovitch Slaine in 2000AD did a great job on celtic myths #ufchat
11:45 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @shadowflame1974 We have ‘days’ named after the norse gods #UFChat
11:45 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines *cough*orgy with Royce, Chaz, Shia*cough* #ufchat
11:45 pm johanncarlisle: A8a maybe Greek myth has more direct path into our canon, via renaissance art and poetry, than Celtic (which has recent resurgence?) #ufchat
11:46 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat D: HEY! Don’t be givin’ away my big reveals! LOL @Book_Faery
11:46 pm UF_Chat: Let me qualify re last Q – when people attempt to retell eg Caltic legend they tend to stick pretty close – doesn’t really get UF-ed #UFchat
11:46 pm QQwill: @amandabonilla I thought tweetdeck died! #ufchat
11:46 pm Book_Faery: LOL. Don’t worry, I left the whipped cream out! RT @Jess_Haines: #UFchat D: HEY! Don’t be givin’ away my big reveals! LOL @Book_Faery
11:46 pm AmaliaTd: @shadowflame1974 Yes, but our days of the week are named for Norse gods. I don’t think Greek is the only resurgent myth right now. #ufchat
11:46 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Celtic myth is used so much in high fantasy, that some might consider it over done already #UFChat
11:46 pm QQwill: @Ben_Aaronovitch Thursday is named after Thor. #ufchat
11:47 pm shadowflame1974: @Ben_Aaronovitch but are your kids really aware of that? Mine aren’t and truthfully, I did forget. (Bad Shadow) #UFChat
11:47 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @QQwill Wednesday, Friday #ufchat
11:47 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat Perhaps they stick so close to Celtic myth bc it’s not “as popular”, whereas Greek myth is well known amongst readers #ufchat
11:47 pm QQwill: @Ben_Aaronovitch Wednesday is named for Woden? Yes? #ufchat
11:47 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @shadowflame1974 My son did it in pprimary school #UFChat
11:47 pm leapetra: @shadowflame1974 THORSDAY FRIGDAY WODENDAY I beg to differ #UFChat
11:47 pm amandabonilla: Real life calls. Thanks for the chat, everyone! See you next week! #ufchat
11:47 pm UF_Chat: @johanncarlisle That might be good point – people popularising Celtic legends – seem more ‘intact’ maybe? Hm. #UFchat
11:48 pm UF_Chat: Q9: Why would Greek myth based UF differ from the angels/demons trends of 2010 (in particular)? Are they at all related? #UFchat
11:48 pm kristiluchi: I have got to go cook! I’ll prob miss all the good stuff. #ufchat
11:48 pm MarcUpdates: @leapetra And then you have Saturn-day from the roman ;) #ufchat
11:48 pm QQwill: @leapetra Thanks. I forgot Friday! #ufchat
11:48 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat Angels/demons have that redemption thread – Greeks don’t do redemption #UFchat
11:48 pm kevmcveigh: @inkgypsy I was assuming that as a given for myth. But without the Urban engagement its just fantasy NOT urban fantasy. #ufchat
11:49 pm shadowflame1974: as I said Bad Bad Shadow :( #UFChat
11:49 pm UF_Chat: Q10: What mythological objects might be interesting to build a UF series around? #UFchat
11:49 pm johanncarlisle: @QQwill @Ben_Aaronovitch Thursday = Thor yes, but more complex than that: Jeudi = Jove (both gods of thunder); most days’re parallel #ufchat
11:49 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @johanncarlisle It’s always more complicated than that. #ufchat
11:49 pm AmaliaTd: Tuesday is named for Tyr, also a Norse god. #UFchat
11:50 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat Excalibur gonna be in book 6 sort of #UFchat
11:50 pm MarcUpdates: A10 – Loki’s staff, that could be very interesting #ufchat
11:50 pm UF_Chat: @kevmcveigh Is 1 of reasons trying to have people understand retellings vs using as a base – story can’t just be ‘updated’ to = UF. #UFchat
11:50 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat The sampo. An amazing object. Probably a mill that would grind anything. Salt, gold, etc. #UFChat
11:51 pm QQwill: @Ben_Aaronovitch Book 6 of Rivers of London series? #ufchat
11:51 pm UF_Chat: Q10a: What different ways might you use eg Pandora?s box (or similar) in different ways as a series base? #UFchat
11:51 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @QQwill Yep #ufchat
11:51 pm AmaliaTd: A10: Not Greek, but…Thor’s Goat Chariot #ufchat
11:52 pm MarcUpdates: @AmaliaTd Ooh how about Odin’s 88-legged horse? #ufchat
11:52 pm shadowflame1974: experiencing some major Twitter Lag… :( #UFChat
11:52 pm MarcUpdates: @AmaliaTd Only 8, not 88, lol #ufchat
11:52 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @MarcUpdates Wouldn’t want to be the illustrator #ufchat
11:52 pm UF_Chat: Q11: What might be interesting about the character of Medusa – or her abilities which may be passed on to future generations? #UFchat
11:52 pm UF_Chat: Q11a: Which is scarier: Medusa as contemporary assassin or Medusa as high powered executive? #UFchat
11:53 pm MarcUpdates: @Ben_Aaronovitch I imagine it would end up looking like Rincewind’s luggage #ufchat
11:53 pm cindymariej: @UF_Chat executives don’t need Medusa to be scary #UFChat
11:53 pm UF_Chat: Q11b: How else might Medusa?s abilities/curse prove interesting/useful to explore in UF? #UFchat
11:53 pm MyNeedToRead: A10: The Book of Thoth, though I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s already been well-covered. ^_^ #UFchat
11:53 pm AmaliaTd: @MarcUpdates Sleipnir, for sure! Especially with his heritage as a son of Loki-the-mare. #UFchat #Hashtagfail
11:54 pm Book_Faery: A11a: assassin… she could be like the boogie man. Don’t think she’d get far with snakes for hair as an executive lol #ufchat
11:54 pm UF_Chat: @cindymariej Oh I completely agree! (Which is why I put her in with the bunch. ;) #UFChat
11:54 pm shadowflame1974: Q11 I think her as a High Powered exe would be terrifying! #UFChat
11:54 pm AmaliaTd: Medusa vs. Athena would be awesome. #ufchat Using all the forces of earth to get back at Athena for the curse would be GOLD.
11:54 pm UF_Chat: Q12: How might you write contemp UF using Greek mythology in modern GREECE? #UFchat
11:55 pm UF_Chat: @AmaliaTd Don’t you think?? *looks around for where the writer is who is writing this awesome book* #UFchat
11:56 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat A12 Being Greek would be a good start #UFchat
11:56 pm UF_Chat: Q12a: What challenges might an author have in writing Greek-mythbased UF set in modern Greece? What would be fun to see? #UFchat
11:56 pm shadowflame1974: @Book_Faery snakes could be disguised as a particular hairstyle. :) #UFChat
11:56 pm AmaliaTd: @UF_Chat I’ll put it on my idea list :P #ufchat
11:56 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat A12a Zuess dealing with mountain climbers #UFchat
11:56 pm MyNeedToRead: Q12: There’d definitely have to be some bigwig shipping magnates involved, at the very least. ^_^ #UFchat
11:56 pm Book_Faery: @shadowflame1974 True. What happens if she gets pissed though? Would the snakes break free? #ufchat
11:56 pm UF_Chat: S: There is a UF anthology using Cerberus as springboard for shorts. (Must Love Hellhounds http://bit.ly/gtA28u ) #UFchat
11:57 pm UF_Chat: Q13: What could you do with/how could you use a hellhound in a contemporary city? #UFchat
11:57 pm johanncarlisle: A12 Yess! Greek mythology is updated in modern Greek folklore already: kallikantzaroi, shapeshifters, child-stealers; would be cool! #ufchat
11:58 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat Dog walking service #UFchat
11:58 pm UF_Chat: Q13a: What other creatures from Greek myth would make good central characs/sidekicks? #UFchat
11:58 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat Fauns, nymphs, neriads and muses #UFchat
11:58 pm UF_Chat: As in creatures like hellhounds (thinking beyond the heroes and gods here) #UFchat
11:59 pm QQwill: @UF_Chat Amber Benson uses a hellhound in the first of her Calliope Reaper-Jones novels. #ufchat
11:59 pm johanncarlisle: A12 and remember that for most of the last 2000 years the Greek world has included South Italy, Alexandria, Istanbul, Marseilles etc #ufchat
11:59 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat I had a hellhound as a love interest in a short story I wrote. He’s kind of like the badass of the underworld lol #ufchat
11:59 pm inkgypsy: @johanncarlisle I think that might be one of reasons people start getting confused – what is ‘Greek’ #UFchat
February 20, 2011
UF_Chat: Q14: What is the equivalent of a vampire in Greek mythology? Is there one? #UFchat
Ben_Aaronovitch: I’m being followed by Glastonbury 2011 now #UFchat
UF_Chat: Q14a: What about werewolves? Do they have a Greek myth cousin? #UFchat
12:01 am leapetra: @UF_Chat I have a Question. Do you think a lot of other myths have not been touched because they are too bloody? #UFChat
12:01 am shadowflame1974: @Book_Faery not sure, but probably part of the story lol #UFChat
12:01 am UF_Chat: FINAL Q15: If you could have any author write a Greek myth-based novel or new series who would that be? And why? #UFchat
12:01 am MarcUpdates: @UF_Chat Q14 Yes, there were, Lamias or lhamias, I believe #ufchat
12:01 am AmaliaTd: … q14 Incubus? #ufchat #hashtagfail
12:02 am UF_Chat: @leapetra This is one thing I find odd – UF has strong roots ins horror so why the aversion to bloody? (cont) #UFchat
12:02 am shadowflame1974: @UF_Chat Q13 bodyguard :D #UFChat
12:02 am MyNeedToRead: A14: Absolutely! The word even starts with a v but it doesn’t roll off the lips as easily. ^_^ #UFchat
12:02 am AmaliaTd: Q15: I’m determined to write my own :D but who knows how that’s going to end up :P #ufchat
12:02 am johanncarlisle: @UF_Chat Q14 Vampire: not really; there’s Lamia, who eats children, but no Byronic vampires (ironically) #ufchat
12:02 am JeannieHolmes: @UF_Chat Ancient Greeks believed people w/red hair would become vampires after death, if I’m remembering my myths correctly. #ufchat
12:02 am Ben_Aaronovitch: @johanncarlisle I thought Lamia was Roman? #ufchat
12:03 am JLCoburn: @UF_Chat A14 Empusa Lamia, Striges are all precursers to vampires as we know. Hecate too. #UFChat
12:03 am inkgypsy: @leapetra (cont) Maybe because horror done by many people and demi-people? Not monsters or evil people/abberations? Curious too. #UFchat
12:03 am kevmcveigh: @UF_Chat best use of Greek myth in proper UF is Stephen Sherrill’s excellent The Minotaur Takes A Cigarette Break #ufchat
12:03 am johanncarlisle: Q14a but werewolves, yes; there are shapeshifting pelts around, and Herodotus mentions a Scythian tribe who transformed into wolves. #ufchat
12:04 am leapetra: @UF_Chat There are a lot dismemberments and rebirth stories with some European traditions. Yet no modern takes #UFChat
12:04 am inkgypsy: @MarcUpdates I’m thinking snake… (another sake thing!) s that right? And wasn’t she big on munching up kids? #UFchat
12:05 am MarcUpdates: @inkgypsy Yup, that’s right, she’s real big on kidsize snacks #ufchat
12:05 am shadowflame1974: @UF_Chat Q14 Greeks and Romans had Empusae, the Lamia, and the striges. #UFChat
12:05 am inkgypsy: @MarcUpdates Checked wikipedia – you were right – similar to succubi apparently – though I was right too.. bizarre. #UFchat
12:06 am MarcUpdates: @inkgypsy lol, I’d already been and checked myself #ufchat
12:06 am UF_Chat: @Ben_Aaronovitch I think most Roman myths are Greek-offshoots excepting Romulus & Remus but I couldbe wrong… #UFchat
12:06 am leapetra: like this one LEMMINKAINEN – http://www.godchecker.com/pantheon/finnish-mythology.php?deity=LEMMINKAINEN #UFChat
12:07 am inkgypsy: RT @UF_Chat: FINAL Q15: If you could have any author write a Greek myth-based novel or new series who would that be? And why? #UFchat
12:07 am Ben_Aaronovitch: @leapetra What a wonderful site #UFChat
12:08 am UF_Chat: Guess we opened up some worm cans/Pandora boxes today! That?s a wrap for #UFchat! Resources on Greek mythology/pantheons in UF next.
12:08 am UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds: Mythology & UF -challenges of using established mythology (by Urban Psychopomp) http://bit.ly/fc3YFv #UFchat
12:08 am UF_Chat: The Femme Fatale Roots in Mythology http://bit.ly/gM7HrB #UFchat
12:08 am QQwill: @leapetra Cool site! #UFChat
12:08 am UF_Chat: @leapetra Godchecker is a great site – no? #UFchat
12:08 am Ben_Aaronovitch: Horway I managed to stay up to the end #UFchat
12:09 am UF_Chat: Encyclopedia of Greek Mythology Index http://bit.ly/hDi7US #UFchat
12:09 am UF_Chat: Greek mythology creature list (very basic – at a glance) http://bit.ly/h9HS5h #UFchat
12:09 am tordotUF: Medusa is getting a lot of play lately #ufchat
12:09 am UF_Chat: Greek gods, goddesses, legendary figures & monsters http://bit.ly/icPA3d #UFChat
12:09 am Localstuffbath: RT @Ben_Aaronovitch2011I‘m being followed by Glastonbury 2011 now #UFchat
12:10 am johanncarlisle: @UF_Chat @Ben_Aaronovitch most Roman myths we know about anyway. ????? appears in Aristophanes, so was obviously known to the Greeks #ufchat
12:10 am kevmcveigh: @UF_Chat @inkgypsy and beyond the existence of a Minotaur there’s no supernatural/paranoromance element. Non necessary #ufchat
12:10 am UF_Chat: @tordotUF Yes indeedy she is! Looking forward to reading the results. Want to see Circe-in-the-City. Heh. #UFchat
12:11 am UF_Chat: Amalia Dillin?s blog (@amaliatd) on all things Norse & Classic incl Thor + zombies! http://bit.ly/cbRN5T #UFchat
12:11 am UF_Chat: Kasey Mackenzie (author of ?Red Hot Fury? etc) interviewed at Odd Shots http://bit.ly/fxUkoB #UFchat
12:11 am UF_Chat: Kasey Mackenzie website w insider look at her use of mythology http://bit.ly/9uEX9Z #UFchat
12:11 am UF_Chat: Seaborn by Chris Howard @the0phrastus (review) Greek mythology & Mermaid adult UF! http://bit.ly/hEbHtY #UFchat
12:12 am inkgypsy: P.C. Cast – Goddess Summoning books – retelling ancient myths with a modern twist http://bit.ly/g14j8F #UFchat
12:12 am UF_Chat: Must Love Hellhounds – review by Abigail @ All Things Urban Fantasy http://bit.ly/gtA28u #UFchat
12:12 am UF_Chat: Webmage by Kelly McCullough (review) combines computers & mythology http://bit.ly/eYJQZu #UFchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: Dark Hunter series by Sherrilyn Kenyon character/myth breakdown http://bit.ly/hXCWj3 #UFchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: The Big Idea: Carrie Vaughn on Discord?s Apple http://bit.ly/gDt9NL #UFchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: Gods and Monsters #1: Darkness Becomes Her (review) http://bit.ly/eDJYCZ #UFchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: Lords of the Underworld series overview http://bit.ly/hXzGGR #UFchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: Got a topic you want to chat about? Let me know! (@inkgypsy) I?ll add it to the list & maybe even bump up the chat-date for it. #UFchat
12:14 am UF_Chat: #UFchat transcript available on the #UFchat blog as soon as I catch up! Allowing for late comments. Just use the hashtag.
12:14 am tordotUF: @JeannieHolmes @UF_Chat The Sabina Kane series plays off that idea #ufchat
12:14 am johanncarlisle: @shadowflame1974 I’d forgotten about the Empousae (probably because they have Punic roots) but also mentioned in Aristophanes so yes #ufchat
12:14 am QQwill: @UF_Chat Thank you for another great chat! #ufchat
12:14 am UF_Chat: Note: Am having HUGE trouble retrieving transcripts this last month!! Apologies – still trying. #UFChat
12:14 am UF_Chat: @QQwill You’re welcome. :) #UFchat
12:15 am UF_Chat: See you at next week?s #UFchat! @UF_Chat lights out. :)
12:16 am kevmcveigh: @MarcUpdates @UF_chat most sff takes its Lamia second hand from Keats firstly rather than from Greek sources. #ufchat
12:16 am inkgypsy: @kevmcveigh Funny thing about a minotaur – from what I understand it can’t survive OUTSIDE a city…potential there for good writer. #UFchat
12:17 am inkgypsy: @kevmcveigh Yes – I think that’s where the snake reference came from – correct? #UFchat
12:17 am UF_Chat: RT @kevmcveigh: @UF_Chat best use of Greek myth in proper UF is Stephen Sherrill’s excellent The Minotaur Takes A Cigarette Break #ufchat
12:19 am shadowflame1974: @UF_Chat WTHashtag is still down. :( #UFChat #UFChat
12:22 am kevmcveigh: @inkgypsy #ufchat well, there was only 1 Minotaur in myth, but Rjurik Davidson’s Passing Of The Minotaurs has lots visit a city, sad story
12:23 am UF_Chat: @QQwill Only just saw Q about Webmage – yes – Greek myth + computers – link is in resource section. :) #UFchat
12:23 am UF_Chat: @MyNeedToRead You’re welcome! #UFchat

The transcript runs out here so I am pasting from active post-UFchat participants Tweet Streams:

1st @AnassaRh (please note – these are in reverse – just like reading Twitter)

  1. @kevmcveigh Thanks for all the book recommendations! Will certainly be looking into them. :) Sun Feb 20 02:51:45 2011 via TweetDeck
  2. @UF_Chat @leapetra Maybe make dismemberment, rebirth, and bloody stories a #ufchat topic? Sun Feb 20 02:50:17 2011 via web in reply to UF_Chat
  3. Centaurs trained Heracles, didn’t they? Or was it Jason? Can’t remember. Anyway, could be a mentor figure again. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:45:01 2011 via web
  4. A13a: Am picturing heroine with wise-cracking water god living in her apartment, due to subterranean river. (Or the plumbing.) #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:43:39 2011 via web
  5. A13: You could use it like Rowling did and have it guard a treasure. Could be part of an assassination service, too. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:40:03 2011 via web
  6. A12: Stories centered around objects would be easy. If they’re disturbed or acting up or missing… Or perhaps a temple is profaned? #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:38:09 2011 via web
  7. A10a: Pandora’s box could turn Earth into a darker, dystopic version. Could have to put things back into it. Could try to find Hope. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:34:30 2011 via web
  8. A10: Can’t think of specific objects, but trying to track down relics/relics dealer would make great series. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:33:39 2011 via web
  9. @kevmcveigh Yes, exactly! I’m much more a fan of the alien brutality versions. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:29:46 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to kevmcveigh
  10. kevmcveigh @AnassaRh yes, and contemporary Celtic fantasy either follows this into twee or restores the quasi alien amoral brutality of Faerie #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:27:20 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to AnassaRh Retweeted by AnassaRh
  11. Then again, we only know the Greek myths through secondary and tertiary sources. Who knows what the originals were? #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:24:02 2011 via web
  12. I know the Victorians took the fae, shrank them, and dressed them up in flower petals. Greeks seem to be rawer, more original. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:23:21 2011 via web
  13. Not totally up on history of Celtic + Greek myths but haven’t the Celtic ones been sanitized and messed with longer? #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:22:07 2011 via web
  14. There’s overlap between Greek, Babylonian, and Judeo-Christian stories. Floods, men made of clay… Could be set up for shared world? #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:20:21 2011 via web
  15. A8a: I think just about any mythology could work with Greeks, if done right. Mesopotamian would be cool. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:19:05 2011 via web
  16. A7a: Mermaids are more ‘girly’? *shrugs* #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:11:03 2011 via web
  17. Hee! Great image! RT @leapetra: I would love to have Baba Yaga show up in a city, but instead of her house on chicken legs, an RV #UFChat Sun Feb 20 02:10:34 2011 via TweetDeck
  18. I haven’t read any siren books except for Kelly Gay’s, but my guess is that seductiveness plays a big part. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:09:51 2011 via web
  19. MyNeedToRead Not gonna lie, itd be pretty exciting to see some UF with some mythology from anywhere on the African continent. #UFchat Know some? tell me! Sat Feb 19 15:33:23 2011 via web Retweeted by AnassaRh
  20. Ooh, what about Hermes? Can someone use Hermes, please? I love tricksters. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:00:04 2011 via web
  21. Also, Hera, Artemis, and others were fond of screwing people over. Could make a god mortal/cursed? Could be looming threat? #ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:59:16 2011 via web
  22. A6a: Interesting take would be that 1) gods’ powers got exaggerated 2) gods had little real power, was all smoke and mirrors. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:56:39 2011 via web
  23. Perhaps they’re sent back to Earth because the gods think it needs cleaning up? #ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:53:39 2011 via web
  24. And I’ll go back to something I said a few tweets back: Would love to see the heroes. Theseus, Jason, Heracles, Odysseus…. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:53:05 2011 via web
  25. A6: Hmm. Death seems popular these days. Why not Hades? Persephone? Also, if heading towards sexy, a satyr? #ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:52:02 2011 via web
  26. Oh! Kelly Gay’s books use Greek myths too. Male siren sidekick, nymphs, whole attached world that sounds v. Greek. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:51:08 2011 via web
  27. @AmaliaTd Yes! You mentioned Gods Behaving Badly! I loved the take on the gods in that. Twas a perfect update of them. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:47:18 2011 via web in reply to AmaliaTd
  28. I think a Fury has a lot of potential. A natural avenger. Great choice when doing a mystery. But…how to slow her down for 300 pages? #ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:46:27 2011 via web
  29. Re: Greek thoughts on myths: No clue, but myths are further in past for Greeks than Natives, no? Perhaps it’s a distance thing. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:44:40 2011 via web
  30. A4: Challenges? Creating magic system and handicapping the gods. Choosing which versions of myths to use. #ufchat 1:43 AM Feb 20th via web
  31. @kevmcveigh Sounds interesting! I’ll check that out. #ufchat 1:40 AM Feb 20th via TweetDeck in reply to kevmcveigh
  32. @kevmcveigh But I think if there’s magic, even if slight, my statement could still fit. #ufchat 1:40 AM Feb 20th via TweetDeck in reply to kevmcveigh
  33. @kevmcveigh Sorry. I have a mystery-monster UF background. Trying to catch up on older works, + those in “mythic fantasy” vein. #ufchat 1:39 AM Feb 20th via TweetDeck in reply to kevmcveigh
  34. Yes! Heracles (etc) in our world? Someone with same ideals? RT@Ben_Aaronovich:A3 A contrast in how standards of heroism have changed #UFchat 1:36 AM Feb 20th via TweetDeck
  35. A3: Gods as villains. Gods as sidekicks. Gods as modern religion. Gods as parents. (Demi)gods as MCs. Demigods as non-human people. #ufchat 1:32 AM Feb 20th via web
  36. When you get down to it, isn’t all UF based in myth or legend? Even the ones with only magic, no monsters. #ufchat 1:28 AM Feb 20th via web
  37. Ben_Aaronovitch RT @Ben_Aaronovitch: A2 Mythologies tend to represent a body of very primal stories that have stood the test of time. #ufchat 3:08 PM Feb 19th via TweetDeck Retweeted by AnassaRh
  38. A2: Myths are a ready-made world, semi-familiar, with lots of shenanigans and characters to choose. #ufchat 1:26 AM Feb 20th via web
  39. A1: Someone in pre-chat mentioned the Webmage series. Think I’ve heard of one with a half-Fury? Also Gods Behaving Badly – one-off. #ufchat 1:19 AM Feb 20th via web

And from @kevmcveigh (who traded a few comments with Anassa as shown in her comments above):

  1. @leapetra coyote isn’t uncommon. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 12:44:56 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to leapetra
  2. @cftodd the point was that the latter with the nondescript city backdrop isn’t UF at all. Sun Feb 20 10:05:00 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to cftodd
  3. @AnassaRh the selkie in Elizabeth Bear’s Blood & Iron is definitely amoral and gives the books a dark layer Sun Feb 20 02:41:00 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to AnassaRh
  4. @AnassaRh James P Blaylock did that in Last Coin #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:38:09 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to AnassaRh
  5. @AnassaRh yes, and contemporary Celtic fantasy either follows this into twee or restores the quasi alien amoral brutality of Faerie #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:27:20 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to AnassaRh
  6. @AnassaRh @myneedtoread also have you read @nalohopkinson ? Uses African & Caribbean legends brilliantly.#ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:13:35 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to AnassaRh
  7. @AnassaRh @myneedtoread The House Of Discarded Dreams by @esedia is a great novel using myths/folktales from Zimbabwe area. #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:10:53 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to AnassaRh
  8. @AnassaRh re Odysseus, Margaret Atwood considered his wife in The Penelopiad #ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:03:24 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to AnassaRh
  9. @AnassaRh Howard Waldrop obliquely retells the 12 Labours in 1920s rural (so not UF) Mississippi in A Dozen Tough Jobs its great.#ufchat Sun Feb 20 02:02:05 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to AnassaRh
  10. @AnassaRh @MartinMillar1 created a modern urban pantheon in his Brixton books inc god of electric guitar thieves etc.#ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:39:49 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to AnassaRh
  11. @AnassaRh interesting assertion, not sure of the mythic base of eg Wizard Of The Pigeons or Shirley’s City Come A Walkin’ #ufchat Sun Feb 20 01:35:06 2011 via TweetDeck in reply to AnassaRh

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END OF TRANSCRIPT & ADDITIONAL TWITTER COMMENTS

Transcript Feb 5th 2011: UFchat Roundtable: Predictions for 2011

7:59 am FantasyFaction: Good topic on Female Fantasy Authors with Discussion & Recommendations: http://bit.ly/gSd6R3 #amreading #fantasy #ufchat #litchat
8:42 am KC_Woolf: RT @fantasyfaction: Good topic on Female Fantasy Authors with Discussion & Recommendations: http://bit.ly/gSd6R3 #amreading #fantasy #ufchat
12:08 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat is ON today! Sat 2/4 @shadowflame1974 puts on Mod hat & boots for 1st time. (Warning: she’s armed!) Open roundtable format @ 3pmPST
12:08 pm inkgypsy: #UFchat is ON today! Sat 2/4 @shadowflame1974 puts on Mod hat & boots for 1st time. (Warning: she’s armed!) Open roundtable format @ 3pmPST
12:11 pm inkgypsy: Though #UFchat is in capable hands today I sure will miss it if I can’t make it in between home-hospital duties here! It’s going to be fun!
12:27 pm PrincessSoupie: RT @FantasyFaction: Good topic on Female Fantasy Authors with Discussion & Recommendations: http://bit.ly/gSd6R3 #amreading #fantasy #ufchat #litchat
12:31 pm jolantru: RT @UF_Chat: #UFchat is ON today! Sat 2/4 @shadowflame1974 puts on Mod hat & boots for 1st time. (Warning: she’s armed!) Open roundtable format @ 3pmPST
2:15 pm Sarah_Bromley: RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat is ON today! Sat 2/4 @shadowflame1974 puts on Mod hat & boots for 1st time. (Warning: she’s armed!) Open roundtable format @ 3pmPST
6:39 pm shadowflame1974: Morning… or ummmm afternoon all. Going to mod my first #UFchat today. Round table discussion.
6:41 pm UF_Chat: Round table discussion today: Predictions for 2011 #UFchat 5 P.m. CST
6:43 pm rcmurphy: RT @UF_Chat: Round table discussion today: Predictions for 2011 #UFchat 5 P.m. CST
6:52 pm shadowflame1974: RT @UF_Chat: Round table discussion today: Predictions for 2011 #UFchat 5 P.m. CST
7:51 pm sandrawickham: RT @UF_Chat: Round table discussion today: Predictions for 2011 #UFchat 5 P.m. CST
8:19 pm shadowflame1974: #UFChat in just a few hours! Round table discussion on where UF is going this year. Come and join in!
8:27 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat What are you looking forward to this year in Urban Fantasy? Werewolves, zombies, vampires. We want to know! 5pm CST
8:28 pm rcmurphy: RT @UF_Chat: #UFchat What are you looking forward to this year in Urban Fantasy? Werewolves, zombies, vampires. We want to know! 5pm CST
8:29 pm LauraKreitzer: @UF_Chat Something DIFFERENT. Something new #UFchat
8:50 pm miranda00writes: RT @UF_Chat: #UFchat What are you looking forward to this year in Urban Fantasy? Werewolves, zombies, vampires. We want to know! 5pm CST
9:01 pm UF_Chat: where will UF will take us in 2011. Will Vampires rule the world or will the Weres pull it off. Stay tuned for #UFChat 5 pm CST
9:03 pm marirandomities: RT @uf_chat: where will UF will take us in 2011. Will Vampires rule the world or will the Weres pull it off. #UFChat 5 pm CST
9:06 pm shadowflame1974: I’ll be lurking today going to mod my first #UFchat in 2 hours :D and haven”t read Neuromancer yet
9:07 pm shadowflame1974: I’ll be lurking today going to mod my first #UFchat in 2 hours :D and haven”t read Neuromancer yet #cyberpunkchat
9:13 pm AnassaRh: Also, to warn you, I participate in #ufchat every Saturday, usually late because dayjob conflicts. And I tend to be talkative?
9:29 pm marirandomities: A Saturday shout out to my #FridayFlash, The Knight Revealed, epi #12 of the Troll Serial: http://bit.ly/trolls12_knight #litchat #ufchat
9:53 pm UF_Chat: One hour to go time. #UFChat Round table discussion today, ‘Were do you think UF will go in 2011 and beyond? 5 pm CST
9:54 pm leapetra: RT @UF_Chat: where will UF will take us in 2011. Will Vampires rule the world or will the Weres pull it off. #UFChat 5 pm CST #ufchat
9:54 pm Jess_Haines: RT @UF_Chat: One hour to go time. #UFChat Round table discussion today, ‘Were do you think UF will go in 2011 and beyond? 5 pm CST
9:57 pm rcmurphy: RT @UF_Chat: One hour to go time. #UFChat Round table discussion today, ‘Were do you think UF will go in 2011 and beyond? 5 pm CST
10:31 pm UF_Chat: This will be my first mod job for #UFChat Open discussion on what trends are out there for 2011. Vampires? Werewolves? What next?
10:32 pm UF_Chat: Are you up for some predictions for 2011? Where UF is going this year. What is going strong? What is coming up? 5 pm CST #UFChat
10:34 pm ganymeder: RT @marirandomities: A Saturday shout out to my #FridayFlash, The Knight Revealed, epi #12 of the Troll Serial: http://bit.ly/trolls12_knight #litchat #ufchat
10:48 pm UF_Chat: Pulls on the UF Mod boots on. Looks good. Nothing feels better than monster stomping boots. #UFChat
10:51 pm UF_Chat: Hat’s a little small though *Grabs her own* ahh much better. Anyone out there? #UFChat
10:52 pm UF_Chat: http://bit.ly/dWUqfS Top Anticipated Fantasy books of 2011 #UFChat
10:52 pm L_Bushman: RT @UF_Chat: Pulls on the UF Mod boots on. Looks good. Nothing feels better than monster stomping boots. #UFChat
10:53 pm leapetra: RT @UF_Chat: Pulls on the UF Mod boots on. Looks good. Nothing feels better than monster stomping boots. #ufchat
10:53 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Just us chickens. #UFChat
10:54 pm UF_Chat: Orbit books: Cover trends 2009 part 1 http://bit.ly/eDv6rm Part 2 http://bit.ly/eSfrtP #UFChat
10:55 pm shadowflame1974: @Jess_Haines hey anyone who can wrangle Weres, vamps and zombies isn’t a chicken #UFChat
10:56 pm Jess_Haines: @shadowflame1974 Point taken, lol. #UFChat
10:57 pm DEcharacters: will watch chat but not sure I’ll have anything to add to the conversation #UFchat
10:57 pm shadowflame1974: Going to be my first time wrangling the chat so bear with me. #UFChat
10:58 pm BryanThomasS: @shadowflame1974 heckle heckle heckle :) #UFChat
10:59 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat re: covers What no chain mail wonderbras? #ufchat
10:59 pm UF_Chat: And we are going live in 3…. 2… 1… #UFChat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: Let’s open by looking at what’s in store for UF fans this year – the trends, expectations, predictions, #UFChat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: what’s hot, what’s not & the current writing trends (which we’ll see on the shelves in 2 to 5 years). #UFChat
11:00 pm leapetra: tweet chat is slow tonight. or more computer issues with me. #ufchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: So what kind of trends did we see in 2010? Vamps seemed to dominate TV but how about books? #UFChat
11:02 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra yea given up on tweetchat using TweetDeck #UFChat
11:02 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat More and more talk about trolls. That new movie from Norway is helping with that #ufchat
11:02 pm Jess_Haines: #UFChat I’ve seen a lot of angel stuff in YA and demon stuff in UF/PNR come out in the past year. Probably will see more of that in 2011.
11:03 pm Jess_Haines: #UFChat Aside from the obvious vamp/werewolf/mage stuff, of course. :P Fae are also becoming more popular.
11:04 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra Trolls are interesting turn. Much more based in legends but what kind of changes in them have you seen? #UFChat
11:04 pm DawnEmbers: Try this again: There is mage stuff in UF? Where can I find that? #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: @DawnEmbers yep wiches, magic useers and magic galore in some stories. #UFChat
11:05 pm leapetra: #UFChat I think vampires will still be big, I can only hope that the image of them will start to change, New blood!
11:05 pm Jess_Haines: @DawnEmbers Mage/wizard, yes. Harry Dresden is the biggest, most popular example. #UFChat
11:06 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra How so? What would you like to see done differently? Not more sparkling, I hope, lol. #UFChat
11:06 pm leapetra: @uf_chat nice thing about trolls, is that there are many interpretations. From stone beings, to almost human ones. #UFChat
11:06 pm DawnEmbers: @UF_Chat ahh, yeah I heard of witches but not sure that any called them “mages” like I have in epic fantasy #UFchat
11:06 pm Jess_Haines: @DawnEmbers Have you read Jim Butcher’s Dresden Files? The MC is a wizard who advertises in the Yellow Pages, hehe. #UFChat
11:06 pm leapetra: @uf_chat hard part: setting them in urban areas. they stayed to the fringes of society most of the time. Except in Hellboy. #UFChat
11:07 pm DawnEmbers: @Jess_Haines I’ve heard of the tv show. but for me wizard is different than mage #UFchat but thanks I might read a book at one point
11:07 pm jayewells: @DawnEmbers @UF_Chat As far as I know my series is one of the only UFs that actually uses the term “mage”–The Sabina Kane series. #ufchat
11:07 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Ayup. Some books came out that had a TON of hype surrounding them that featured angels. Didn’t read them, myself. #UFChat
11:08 pm Jess_Haines: @DawnEmbers If you grew up on D&D, yeah, it’s different. But that’s par for the course in UF. #UFChat
11:08 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells @DawnEmbers Not true. I have a mage feature fairly prominently in my novels, even if he’s a secondary character. #UFChat
11:09 pm leapetra: @DawnEmbers to me, mage is a person that is born with magic. Wizard learns. #ufchat
11:09 pm Jess_Haines: @DawnEmbers Ah. Yeah, they are more prominently featured in epic/high fantasy than UF, it’s true. #UFChat
11:10 pm leapetra: @jess_haines vampires: get them out of high school first. #UFChat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: Do you all see more emphasis in magic than magical creatures then? #UFChat
11:10 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells @DawnEmbers Also, I just read something… think it was Karen Chance? Featured use of mages. #UFChat
11:10 pm DawnEmbers: I’ll admit, I haven’t read much in the way of urban fantasy but I might this year. #UFchat
11:10 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells @DawnEmbers They are out there, just have to look for ‘em. #UFChat
11:10 pm Jess_Haines: AMEN. RT @leapetra: @jess_haines vampires: get them out of high school first. #UFChat
11:11 pm QQwill: #UFChat I think that we are going to see a lot more steampunk paranormals
11:11 pm UF_Chat: RT @Jess_Haines: AMEN. RT @leapetra: @jess_haines vampires: get them out of high school first. #UFChat >> I second that
11:12 pm L_Bushman: RT @UF_Chat: RT @Jess_Haines: AMEN. RT @leapetra: @jess_haines vampires: get them out of high school first. #UFChat >> I second that
11:12 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells This is true. Dresden is the main one–not many others use them as MCs. @DawnEmbers #UFChat
11:12 pm UF_Chat: anyone looking forward to any new books this year? #UFChat
11:12 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells Magic-user in general, I mean (wizard/sorcerer/mage). @DawnEmbers #UFChat
11:13 pm Jess_Haines: RT @UF_Chat: anyone looking forward to any new books this year? #UFChat >>PALE DEMON and GHOST STORY. :D
11:13 pm leapetra: everything is lagging for me WAAAAH #UFChat
11:13 pm jayewells: @Jess_Haines @DawnEmbers Yeah I think there’s a difference bt a mage and a wizard. #ufchat
11:13 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra :( can you try tweet deck or use the twitter search? #UFChat
11:14 pm QQwill: Several. Love @Ben_Aaronovitch‘s Rivers of London series. RT @UF_Chat: anyone looking forward to any new books this year? #UFChat
11:14 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells True. Everyone has their own take on it, though, from what I’ve seen. @DawnEmbers #UFChat
11:14 pm cdreimer: My vampire novella is different: 90YO twin brothers, vampire hunter & master vampire, look back on their destructive life b4 dying. #UFChat
11:15 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra Try TweetDeck, if you can. Works beautifully for me on a crappy little netbook. #UFChat
11:15 pm jayewells: @Jess_Haines @DawnEmbers Yeah the specific world building twists by every author is part of the fun of the genre. #ufchat
11:15 pm QQwill: I agree completely. RT @jayewells: @Jess_Haines @DawnEmbers Yeah I think there’s a difference bt a mage and a wizard. #ufchat
11:15 pm leapetra: @shadowflame1974 twitter search is working the best right now, the reast about 5 – 10 mins behind #UFChat
11:15 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells @DawnEmbers Yes, precisely. :) #UFChat
11:16 pm ladytechie: @QQwill I am reading the US version of @Ben_Aaronovitch, Midnight Riot. I look forward to the others in the series. #UFChat
11:17 pm UF_Chat: Has there been much of a change in cover art this year. The Orbit links I showed earlier shows some changes #UFChat
11:17 pm DawnEmbers: #UFchat I’m looking forward to reading books from last year because I’m behind in reading but have a book review blog now
11:18 pm QQwill: @leapetra If it’s handled well. Perhaps we should call it parapunk, not steampunk? #ufchat
11:18 pm leapetra: I am still catching up with my books from last year #UFChat
11:18 pm perfectchichi: RT @UF_Chat: RT @Jess_Haines: AMEN. RT @leapetra: @jess_haines vampires: get them out of high school first. #UFChat >> I second that
11:18 pm UF_Chat: Cover trends 2009: I love thesePart 1 http://bit.ly/eDv6rmPart 2 http://bit.ly/eSfrtP From Orbit books. #UFChat
11:18 pm Jess_Haines: #UFChat I have a lot of books from last year I still need to read. Just recently bought GRAVE WITCH, DARK & STORMY KNIGHTS, etc.
11:18 pm QQwill: @ladytechie I loved Midnight Riot. Moon Over Soho is out on March 1, 2011. #UFChat
11:19 pm leapetra: @QQwill You could also throw dieselpunk on top of it. #UFChat
11:19 pm shadowflame1974: I have so much in my TBR pile. #UFChat
11:19 pm ladytechie: I have several just on 2/22 release date that are on my list to purchase. #UFChat
11:19 pm cdreimer: I also wrote about 20YO vampire queen, college educated, hiding until she’s ready to deliver vampire messiah baby – on her terms. #UFChat
11:20 pm QQwill: @leapetra That’s true. I do think it will evolve into it’s own punk nitch. Like bustlepunk has. #UFChat
11:20 pm leapetra: I am surprised there hasn’t been a big push with American folklore monsters. #UFChat
11:20 pm leapetra: Wouldn’t you love to read a book a bout a jackalope? #UFChat
11:21 pm ladytechie: I have a TBR room with literally hundreds of books and having a Nook and Kindle has only exacerbated the problem. #UFChat
11:21 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra I’m a bit surprised about this too. Also Asian and Indian mythology. #UFChat
11:21 pm QQwill: @leapetra I’ve heard rumor of Wendigo storeis. #UFChat I think one made an appearance in the Dresden Files already.
11:21 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra LOL, a jackalope, huh? Sure. #UFChat
11:21 pm ladytechie: Yes, Cindy Pon’s next book is high on my list. #UFChat
11:21 pm QQwill: @ladytechie I have a huge TBR. I’ll never get through it! #UFChat
11:21 pm leapetra: twitter search is working for me. thank goodness #UFChat
11:21 pm DawnEmbers: @QQwill a wendigo would be interesting. I liked a wendigo movie years ago #UFchat
11:22 pm cdreimer: There’s more to vampires than being forever young, sparkling, and too stupid to graduate from high school and/or move on. :) #UFChat
11:22 pm leapetra: @QQwill Wendigo is good, I would love to see something with the Melonheads, Mothman, Beast of Bay Road, etc #UFChat
11:22 pm QQwill: @DawnEmbers I’ve seen a wendigo used in shows/ movies a couple of times. #UFChat
11:22 pm ladytechie: @QQwill Midnight Riot is hilarious and I love that it is not in the U.S. #UFChat
11:22 pm jonfmerz: #ufchat how many of you are doing the majority of your reading on Kindles & Nooks now?
11:22 pm Jess_Haines: I’d like to see something with a wendigo, too. Mostly seen movies, not books. #UFChat
11:23 pm ladytechie: @jonfmerz Honestly, I have to do all 3, physical and both Nook and Kindle. #UFChat
11:23 pm jonfmerz: @cdreimer and thank god for that #ufchat
11:23 pm leapetra: @Jess_Haines strange thing is there is a disease that causes bony tumours to form behind rabbits ears #UFChat
11:24 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz I have the software on my laptop and phone, but haven’t bought an ereading device. #UFChat
11:24 pm ladytechie: @jonfmerz Yes, I am a tech nut and actually have an iPad too. I use the Kindle and Nook more. #UFChat
11:24 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra O.o Funky! Maybe that’s where the idea for them came from. #UFChat
11:25 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz Yep. Not as often as paper, but I do read them. #UFChat
11:25 pm shadowflame1974: #UFChat I have Calibre on my netbook. so I can read online but still prefer the books. #UFChat
11:25 pm ladytechie: I have series that I follow that I want the physical books for because the covers are great. #UFChat
11:25 pm jonfmerz: @ladytechie I just put all my Lawson vampire stuff up on Kindle & Nook but I was wondering how many UF fans actually read ebooks #ufchat
11:25 pm jayewells: @ladytechie @jonfmerz I’d love to see an ereader study by genre preference. So would most of publishing I’d imagine. #ufchat
11:26 pm BeccaBell9: “@jonfmerz: #ufchat how many of you are doing the majority of your reading on Kindles & ?” Zero. Call me old school – like my paper books!
11:26 pm QQwill: @ladytechie You should try Mike Shevdon’s Courts of the Feyre series and Suzanne McLeod’s Spellcracker series. #UFChat
11:26 pm jayewells: @jonfmerz @ladytechie In my experience UF fans are enthusiastic about ebooks. #ufchat
11:26 pm cdreimer: I’m working on a short story about killer California condors. Indian folklore says that the condor can cut off heads & drink blood. #UFChat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: @jonfmerz I think a lot of them do. If you look on Amazon, most titles are now offered on eBook format. #UFChat
11:27 pm jonfmerz: @jayewells @ladytechie yeah that’s what I’m wondering. Is UF a big genre for ebooks? #ufchat
11:27 pm DawnEmbers: #UFchat I read paperback. The only things I read on my computer are unpublished for friends or chapters for publisher I’m an intern with
11:27 pm ladytechie: @QQwill I love the Spellcracker series! I am looking up the Mike Shevdon’s series now. #UFChat
11:27 pm jayewells: @QQwill @ladytechie I second the Suzanne McLeod rec. She’s brilliant. But I’m biased sine she’s my crit partner. ;) #ufchat
11:27 pm jonfmerz: @BeccaBell9 me too but so many folks seem to go for ‘em #ufchat
11:28 pm ladytechie: I hate when that happens. I have Mike Chevdon’s Sixty-One Inch Nails in my TBR Library. #UFChat
11:28 pm jonfmerz: @UF_Chat good point. Happy I’ve got a lot of stuff out there, but it’s been interesting for sure! #ufchat
11:28 pm ladytechie: @jonfmerz Oh yes, for me it is. #UFChat
11:28 pm leapetra: @cdreimer That’s a great bit folklore. I love finding bits like that #UFChat
11:28 pm cdreimer: Before I saw “Season of The Witch,” I saw movie trailers for irresponsible people and demons. My recent flash fiction was all that. #UFChat
11:29 pm Jess_Haines: @cdreimer That just gave me flashbacks to Blair Witch. AUGH. #UFChat
11:29 pm ladytechie: @jayewells @jonfmerz Yes, and I was traveling about every other month and it was more convenient then multiple books in the luggage. #UFChat
11:30 pm jonfmerz: @ladytechie I can track sales of my paperback, but don’t know how many ebooks of my latest have sold but I think it’s abut the same #ufchat
11:30 pm cdreimer: Irresponsible people and demons – a new trend? Horror couldn’t exist w/o irresponsible people. Demons are new signs of the times? #UFChat
11:31 pm leapetra: I am hooked on the regional folklore, not just in the United States. So many good horror tales #UFChat
11:31 pm jonfmerz: @ladytechie @jayewells that makes sense. My wife got a Kindle for Christmas and loves it. #ufchat
11:31 pm Jess_Haines: @cdreimer Could be. Lots of books featuring demons out there now. LKH had an interesting one before she got all porny. #UFChat
11:31 pm QQwill: @Jess_Haines Jackie Kessler has the Hell series with demons. It’s great. #UFChat
11:32 pm Jess_Haines: @QQwill Ohh, I’ll have to check that out. @StaciaKane also has a good UF with demons. #UFChat
11:32 pm ladytechie: @Jess_Haines Yes, on the demons. I was all set to read Hellforged but needed a break on demons. I love that series. #UFChat
11:33 pm inkgypsy: Popping in briefly – talking demons I see? #UFchat
11:33 pm inkgypsy: Me too! RT @leapetra: I am hooked on the regional folklore, not just in the United States. So many good horror tales #UFChat
11:33 pm Jess_Haines: @ladytechie Haven’t read that series yet. Been hearing a lot about it, though. #UFChat
11:34 pm ladytechie: Another I am looking forward to is Gail Carriger’s next release. #UFChat
11:34 pm cdreimer: @Jess_Haines I’m not really into demons. I’m more of a “let’s make a deal with the devil and see how bad it gets” type. :) #UFChat
11:34 pm leapetra: Surprising with some of the 2012 end of the world stuff, not more end of the world UF #UFChat
11:34 pm QQwill: @Jess_Haines Yes she does. First one in the series is Personal Demons. #UFChat
11:34 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Discussing current UF trends and what’s popular. Demons came up on the list. :) #UFChat
11:34 pm UF_Chat: *ads to the TBR list* #UFChat
11:34 pm jonfmerz: The Sandman Slim books deal with demons in a pretty cool way #ufchat
11:35 pm Jess_Haines: @cdreimer Did you ever see that Schwarzenegger movie, End of Days? #UFChat
11:35 pm UF_Chat: Some might consider demons as end of the world topics. the Devil too. #UFChat
11:35 pm QQwill: @leapetra Nina Bangs is doing a PNR based series around the 2012 myth. Can’t think of a UF though. #UFChat
11:35 pm jayewells: @Jess_Haines @cdreimer LOL “You are a choir boy compared to me!” Loved End of Days. #ufchat
11:36 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells YES!! XD @cdreimer #UFChat
11:36 pm ladytechie: I am a huge fan of the Gin Blanco series by Jennifer Estep too. Can’t wait for that one. #UFChat
11:36 pm leapetra: @cdreimer Unless you are Lordi, then the Devil’s your bitch. (great song: Devil is a Loser) #UFChat
11:36 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra American folklore monsters – wondering why not as well. Maybe people worried about stepping on native toes? #UFchat
11:36 pm jonfmerz: @Jess_Haines @cdreimer that movie had so much potential, but…ugh. #ufchat
11:36 pm Jess_Haines: @jayewells I have to put in the DVD after I finish watching Aliens, lol. @cdreimer #UFChat
11:36 pm jayewells: @Jess_Haines @cdreimer It’s pure cheesy fun. #ufchat
11:37 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Dark & Stormy Knights was a good antho – not perfect but then I haven’t read a perfect antho. #UFchat
11:37 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz I enjoyed it. Considering who was in it and what they had to work with, I think they did pretty damn good. @cdreimer #UFChat
11:37 pm shadowflame1974: @inkgypsy maybe differences in interpretations. Different tribes had diferent views on monsters. #UFChat
11:37 pm cdreimer: Did a vampire story set at the CA U.S./Mexican border where the *chupacabra* (goat sucker) was mentioned as a passing joke. #UFChat
11:37 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy I’m looking forward to it. Roomie is shoving THE BOOK OF JHEREG down my throat first, lol. #UFChat
11:38 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy There are alot of tales from logging that are not Native American inspired. #UFChat
11:38 pm jonfmerz: @Jess_Haines @cdreimer yeah that’s good point, well taken #ufchat
11:38 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz Yeeeesssss. Watching the extended edition right now. :D @jayewells @cdreimer #UFChat
11:38 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines I know demons were touted as the “it” creature for 2010 but not sure they clicked as much as expected. #UFchat
11:38 pm ladytechie: Oh another thing I am liking and hope more for are supernaturals working for the government. #UFChat
11:38 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines There are much worse roomies out there! Yours sounds like a keeper – at least for a while ;) :D #UFChat
11:38 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz If it had the budget/cast/director of Avatar, that would be a different story. :D @cdreimer #UFChat
11:39 pm jonfmerz: @Jess_Haines OMG yes! #ufchat
11:39 pm cdreimer: @Jess_Haines No, I haven’t. I tend to draw on dealing w/ the devil through my church experience (i.e, the evil that good men allow). #UFChat
11:39 pm jayewells: Okay I’m heading out for the night. Thanks for letting me stop by #ufchat. Lots of great UFs coming out in the next couple of months.
11:39 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy PERSONAL DEMONS by @StaciaKane was the only one that I really enjoyed. #UFChat
11:40 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra I agree – & is a lot that are ‘New American’ too (settler tales also based on native folklore but on new land experience. #UFchat
11:40 pm leapetra: http://www.folklore.lumberwoods.com/title.htm #UFChat
11:40 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy LOL, he’s all right. :) #UFChat
11:40 pm Jess_Haines: @cdreimer Should check it out, it’s amusing. :) #UFChat
11:41 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines I admit I’m a little baffled by the demon interest. I get bored very quickly. Angels too. But prob just personal pref. #UFchat
11:41 pm Jess_Haines: @ladytechie Did you read BLOOD LAW by @JeannieHolmes? #UFChat
11:41 pm tasmin21: @UF_Chat Tossing my name in as a writer of demons. #UFChat Also have a WIP involving a jackalope AND a wendigo.
11:41 pm leapetra: http://www.folklore.lumberwoods.com/title.htm Logging creatures #UFchat
11:41 pm QQwill: @inkgypsy @Jess_Haines I don’t mind the demons when set against a rich and varied mythology. There are lost of demons. #UFChat
11:41 pm DawnEmbers: @inkgypsy personal preference is a big thing in the genre #UFchat I get bored easily with any vampire story
11:42 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Angels and demons never really were my thing. Doesn’t mean I never read them, just… infrequently. #UFChat
11:42 pm cdreimer: I think most Americans are generally ignorant of folklore. I might’ve read two Indian folklore stories while in college. #UFChat
11:42 pm inkgypsy: Ooh nice! I’m bookmarking! RT @leapetra: http://bit.ly/emlflG Logging creatures #UFchat
11:42 pm ladytechie: @inkgypsy I thought I loved the angels, it seems that I am just a fan of the Archangels by Nalini SIngh tho I’m not a big PNR fan #UFChat
11:42 pm ladytechie: @Jess_Haines Yes, Blood Law was good! #UFChat
11:43 pm Jess_Haines: RT @tasmin21: @UF_Chat Tossing my name in as a writer of demons. #UFChat Also have a WIP involving a jackalope AND a wendigo. >> WIN. :D
11:43 pm jonfmerz: I gotta run, but I hope all you UF fans will grab a copy of my latest: THE KENSEI -with vampires and ninjas- in stores everywhere. #ufchat
11:43 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy me too, i prefer interdimensonal creatures #UFchat
11:43 pm jonfmerz: good talking to you all! #ufchat
11:43 pm Jess_Haines: @DawnEmbers Really? What if it involves zombies? :D http://bit.ly/eavW9z #UFChat
11:44 pm DawnEmbers: I’ll admit #UFchat I have an angel/demon paranormal romance, but i haven’t read the similar books in the genre #badwriter
11:44 pm DawnEmbers: @Jess_Haines I’ve only read one zombie book, so still not sure how I feel on them #UFchat
11:44 pm leapetra: @cdreimer What about Pecos Bil, or Paul Bunyan, or John Henry, its a pity if kids don’t know about them now. #UFchat
11:44 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz You, too! Thanks for stopping by! :) #UFChat
11:44 pm inkgypsy: @QQwill Differently cultured backgrounds using demons can read- v. interesting but standard Western gets samey for me. #UFchat @Jess_Haines
11:45 pm UF_Chat: I think it is a pitty too. Perhaps more of us could think of way to remake and rebuild them #UFChat
11:45 pm GraylinFox: RT @inkgypsy Ooh nice! I’m bookmarking! RT @leapetra: http://bit.ly/emlflG Logging creatures #UFchat
11:45 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra They don’t?? That’s terrible! (I’m surrounded by cartoon people so we always see those versions then expand here). #UFchat
11:46 pm johnmierau: Sticks up hand for @jonfmerz re RT: #ufchat how many of you are doing the majority of your reading on Kindles & Nooks now?
11:46 pm Jess_Haines: Oh, speaking of demons!! OMG, any other Big Al (Kim Harrison Hollows series) fans out there? :D #UFChat
11:46 pm inkgypsy: Anybody know how Monster High franchise is doing? It was booming before Xmas. interesting use of classic monsters for tweens/teens. #UFchat
11:46 pm QQwill: Another trend – Death, Grim Reaper of whatever you want to call him/her/it books. #UFChat
11:46 pm UF_Chat: #UFChat so what if Blue the ox was a snow creature who fell in love with Paul Bunyon?
11:46 pm shadowflame1974: #UFChat so what if Blue the ox was a snow creature who fell in love with Paul Bunyon?
11:46 pm jonfmerz: @Jess_Haines trying to make this a regular stop every Saturday! #ufchat BTW, I run free fiction in my newsletter http://bit.ly/fDOALy
11:46 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines OK – you got me. Him I can read. :D #UFchat
11:47 pm cdreimer: I’m planning to do an updated Hansel & Gretel fairy tale, where the dead witch’s spirit is in the recycled bricks for a home oven. #UFChat
11:47 pm GraylinFox: RT @Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Discussing current UF trends and what’s popular. Demons came up on the list. :) #UFChat
11:47 pm Jess_Haines: @QQwill Really? I’ve only seen one of these, GRAVE WITCH. #UFChat
11:47 pm UF_Chat: Or maybe their deeds were more than that? #UFChat so many ways to go with legends
11:47 pm DawnEmbers: Maybe I should use a mage instead of demon hunter in my SLC urban fantasy idea *ponders* #UFChat More my type anyways
11:47 pm Jess_Haines: @jonfmerz Awesome, I’ll check it out. :) #UFChat
11:47 pm QQwill: @Jess_Haines Death Works series by Trent Jamieson. Amber Benson’s Calliope Reaper-Jones series. There are others. #UFChat
11:48 pm inkgypsy: @cdreimer I’d be interested – let me know. I’ll promote it – I’m huge supporter of fairy tale revisits. H&G has many possibilities. #UFchat
11:48 pm jonfmerz: @johnmierau thanks John! have you grabbed my Lawson stuff on the Nook or Kindle? 5 novels, a novella & 4 shorts! #ufchat
11:48 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy 4 srs. I really want to read WORLD WAR Z after reading that short. #UFChat
11:48 pm GraylinFox: RT @UF_Chat: #UFChat so what if Blue the ox was a snow creature who fell in love with Paul Bunyon?
11:48 pm Jess_Haines: @QQwill Huh. Haven’t heard of either of those. #UFChat
11:48 pm cdreimer: @leapetra I heard them in passing while in school. John Henry I learned from a PBS or Saturday morning short cartoon. #UFchat
11:48 pm thelightedbridg: RT @leapetra: Wouldn’t you love to read a book a bout a jackalope? #UFChat
11:49 pm LSMatson: @jonfmerz Will do. Just found #UFchat. And Go Gators.
11:49 pm inkgypsy: I must bow out once more. Great to participate & see you all briefly! #UFchat
11:49 pm shadowflame1974: @inkgypsy see you later ! #UFChat
11:49 pm jonfmerz: @LSMatson thanks! #ufchat
11:50 pm kwyskiel: RT @jonfmerz: I gotta run, but I hope all you UF fans will grab a copy of my latest: THE KENSEI -with vampires and ninjas- in stores everywhere. #ufchat
11:50 pm leapetra: RT @UF_Chat #UFChat so what if Blue the ox was a snow creature who fell in love with Paul Bunyon? <scary thought, unless shapeshifter
11:50 pm Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy See you later! :) #UFChat
11:50 pm LSMatson: IS #UFchat a regular Saturday night gig for writers?
11:50 pm QQwill: @Jess_Haines Trent’s: Death Most Definite and Managing Death. Amber’s: Death’s Daughter, Cat’s Claw & Serpent’s Storm. #UFChat
11:50 pm Jess_Haines: @QQwill Will look them up next time I go book shopping. :) #UFChat
11:51 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra see a legend can be retold. Just needs new eyes to see it #UFChat
11:51 pm leapetra: @cdreimer Disney did a movie called Tall Tale, years ago. That was the last time I saw them on screen #UFchat
11:51 pm Jess_Haines: @LSMatson Writers, fans, whatever. :) Every Saturday afternoon. #UFChat
11:51 pm QQwill: @inkgypsy I have to dash. Thank you for an interesting and enjoyable discussion. #UFChat
11:51 pm shadowflame1974: @QQwill Glad to have you. #UFChat
11:51 pm cdreimer: Since my story revolves around bricks, stepmother (before being possessed by the witch) reads the kids “The Three Little Pigs.” :) #UFchat
11:52 pm tordotUF: Are you chatting on Twitter right now? Join the conversation with hastag #UFchat
11:52 pm Jess_Haines: @QQwill Catch you later! :) #UFChat
11:53 pm edmarrow: @jonfmerz My wife and I do 95% on our matching Nooks. #ufchat #cutecouple
11:53 pm shadowflame1974: @tordotUF Thank you for the RT! #UFChat
11:53 pm leapetra: @shadowflame1974 Paul Bunyan might get pissed if he saw all his forests gone. And it would be ironic too #UFchat
11:53 pm crazy_legz: ohhok!! New Captain America Poster looks FAB!! RT @tordotUF: Join the conversation with hastag #UFchat
11:53 pm Ramenth: #UFchat, eh? Interesting, I’m ashamed to say this is the first I’ve heard of it. What’s up, other Urban Fantasy people. Anyone writing atm?
11:53 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra it might be. lots of potential in that #UFChat
11:54 pm UF_Chat: @Ramenth @crazy_legz welcome to the chat. Today is open discussion on trends. #UFChat
11:54 pm Jess_Haines: @Ramenth Ayup. Working on a novella for an anthology coming out later this year about bitchy werewives. *g* You? #UFChat
11:54 pm leapetra: @Ramenth writing when I am not wresting my computer to the ground and trying to make it submit! #UFchat
11:55 pm cdreimer: I loved “The True Story of The 3 Little Pigs!” by Jon Scieszka and Lane Smith, where the story is told from the wolf’s perspective. #UFChat
11:55 pm shadowflame1974: @cdreimer that was an awesome little story. #UFChat
11:55 pm tordotUF: @cdreimer Who doesn’t love a good fractured fairy tale? #ufchat
11:56 pm Jess_Haines: You know what I would like to see more of? Dark/gritty vamp and zombie fiction that is not YA. #UFChat
11:56 pm UF_Chat: We will be continuing the discussion for as long as we have participants. #UFChat
11:57 pm leapetra: RT @Jess_Haines: You know what I would like to see more of? Dark/gritty vamp and zombie fiction that is not YA. #UFChat
11:57 pm readingecstasy: @cdreimer Seems like a take on the tale familiar to me, but I doubt it’s the book you mentioned. #UFChat
11:57 pm crazy_legz: Trends as in not Captain Americas new Poster? aww! Like Paranormal SP etc? Where has all the Epic/High fantasy gone? #UFChat
11:57 pm readingecstasy: @tordotUF @cdreimer Agreed. #ufchat
11:58 pm tordotUF: @crazy_legz I saw it too. Looks good #ufchat
11:58 pm Jess_Haines: @crazy_legz Well, this IS the *urban* fantasy chat. I’m sure there are high/epic fantasy chats out there, too. :) #UFChat
11:58 pm Ramenth: @Jess_Haines Writing a novel atm, actually, about Vampires and Lawyers. It’s kinda cliche, but I don’t think it’s really been done. #ufchat
11:58 pm cdreimer: @Jess_Haines Check out my “Dead Enders” story in Fem-Fangs (Pill Hill Press). http://www.cdreimer.com/books/femfangsanthology.html #UFchat
11:58 pm readingecstasy: @Jess_Haines Where have you been looking? #UFChat
11:58 pm ladytechie: @crazy_legz I’m new to the High Fantasy but loving the ones I’ve read so far. N K Jemisin! #UFChat
11:58 pm DawnEmbers: #UFchat there is a general fantasy chat on Tuesday’s called #Flitchat
11:58 pm UF_Chat: @crazy_legz Trends that affect UF in general and Speculative fiction in general today. #UFChat though we usually have Q&A
11:59 pm shadowflame1974: @crazy_legz and I wonder too about the Epic Fantasy. Is it too complicated for some writiers? #UFChat
11:59 pm tordotUF: @Jess_Haines @Ramenth Really? I’d buy that. Which anthology? #ufchat
February 6, 2011
ladytechie: @shadowflame1974 I had trouble with the made-up worlds at first until I saw the beauty in world building. #UFChat
Jess_Haines: @tordotUF The werewives thing? Antho isn’t out yet. Probably not even available for preorder. @Ramenth #UFChat
12:01 am shadowflame1974: @ladytechie World building can be frustrating and amazing depending on how it is done. #UFChat
12:01 am Ramenth: #ufchat @tordotUF We’ll see how it turns out. @Jess_Haines: Echoing @tordotUF here; what Anthology!
12:01 am Jess_Haines: @tordotUF Will be titled THE REAL WEREWIVES OF VAMPIRE COUNTY. Spoof on reality tv shows. :) @Ramenth #UFChat
12:01 am Ramenth: @Jess_Haines #UFChat huh, cool. Well, I look forward to reading it.
12:01 am ladytechie: @Jess_Haines That sounds hilarious! #UFChat
12:02 am Jess_Haines: @ReadingEcstasy I follow more than just the romance femmes. I also keep an eye on SciFiGuy, ATUF, a few others. #UFChat
12:02 am ladytechie: @shadowflame1974 I can see how it can be difficult and have seen authors talk about charts. I think they might be necessary. #UFChat
12:02 am Jess_Haines: @Ramenth @ladytechie Thank you! :) Not sure who the other authors in the antho will be, but I’m sure it’ll be awesome! #UFChat
12:02 am leapetra: @shadowflame1974 Or become time consuming (glances at wall covered with maps of fictional town) #UFchat
12:03 am Ramenth: @Jess_Haines #UFCHat, okay that is frankly an incredible title. You win an internets.
12:03 am shadowflame1974: @ladytechie they are. charts and spreadsheets, and notes can be very complicated. #UFChat
12:03 am Jess_Haines: @Ramenth LOL, thank you! Wish I thought of it. My editor is a genius. XD My story in the antho is WHAT’S YOURS IS MINE. #UFChat
12:03 am shadowflame1974: @leapetra lol yes! #UFChat
12:03 am readingecstasy: @Jess_Haines That’s good. Diversity is key. I’m going back to the crazy this year. I’ll keep you updated. #UFChat
12:03 am crazy_legz: @shadowflame1974 yeah I’ve come to the conclusion it is. *sniffs* #UFchat
12:04 am Jess_Haines: @ReadingEcstasy Please do. I have added JOHN DIES AT THE END and WORLD WAR Z to my TBR so far. #UFChat
12:04 am Jess_Haines: @JackieKessler Awesome! :D #UFChat
12:04 am egtalbot: @jonfmerz I do about 80-90% of my vreading on kindle now #ufchat
12:04 am tordotUF: @Jess_Haines @tordotUF @Ramenth I’ll keep an eye out for it #ufchat
12:04 am shadowflame1974: @crazy_legz No worries though. I think it will come back around. Been more talk about it lately. #UFChat
12:05 am Jess_Haines: @tordotUF @Ramenth Expect it will come out either later this year or early next year since my contribution is not due until April. #UFChat
12:06 am leapetra: @shadowflame1974 I love making worlds. Deerbow City for my vampires. And a whole world for my minstrels. #UFchat
12:07 am shadowflame1974: @leapetra I loved it when i was writing novel 1, the UF novels are half reality half fantasy so at least have a basis for tonws #UFChat
12:08 am crazy_legz: @UF_Chat meh, cool thanks! Twas all I needed to know! :-D #UFChat
12:09 am Jess_Haines: #UFChat LOL, queen alien is chasing Newt and Ripley comes to save her. My day is made. :D
12:11 am UF_Chat: Well, I think our chat is winding down. Thanks everyone for participating. We will be back next week! #UFChat
12:12 am Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Looking forward to it, as always. :) #UFChat
12:12 am crazy_legz: @UF_Chat I’ll be on earlier then so! lol! #UFChat
12:13 am UF_Chat: Lots of ideas, lots to think about. We are considering having open discussion once a month what do you think? #UFChat
12:14 am Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Needs some guidance, IMHO, so people have an idea what they’re chatting about. #UFChat
12:15 am shadowflame1974: @Jess_Haines My fault on that one, Kids got home at the wrong time. >.< #UFChat
12:16 am Jess_Haines: @shadowflame1974 No worries. :) I think we had fun today! #UFChat
12:16 am shadowflame1974: @Jess_Haines I hope so #UFChat
12:17 am UF_Chat: Night all and if you have anyting you’d like to talk about send a @ #UFChat
12:17 am ladytechie: Great #UFChat today! See everyone soon.
12:17 am Jess_Haines: @shadowflame1974 Got and gave some good book recs, and I had a good time. :) #UFChat
12:21 am jflamingo2: @UF_Chat I haven’t been around to join your chats for some time but it’s always interesting I think an open discussion would do well #UFchat
12:21 am Jess_Haines: OK, #UFChat is over, so I’m going to grab a drink and settle down to more Werewives hilarity and watch End of Days. :D
12:25 am AyeQue: RT @Jess_Haines: You know what I would like to see more of? Dark/gritty vamp and zombie fiction that is not YA. #UFChat
12:43 am Rachel__Graves: I need some new authors, any suggestions for ghost stories, paranormal romances, Urban fantasy, and horror? #ufchat #authors #reading
12:45 am Jess_Haines: @Rachel__Graves Have you read Laurrell K. Hamilton? Kim Harrison? Jim Butcher? Charlaine Harris? Patricia Briggs? Staples of UF. #UFChat
12:47 am Ramenth: #UFChat @Rachel_Graves The October Daye series by @seananmcguire is also very good.
1:39 am sandrawickham: @shadowflame1974 @UF_Chat I missed #UFchat cuz I’m down and out with some stoopid sickness. Just got outta bed. Drat! *waves anyway*
1:44 am JeannieHolmes: Agreed. RT @Jess_Haines: You know what I would like to see more of? Dark/gritty vamp and zombie fiction that is not YA. #UFChat
3:43 am frannymiller: RT @JeannieHolmes: Agreed. RT @Jess_Haines: You know what I would like to see more of? Dark/gritty vamp and zombie fiction that is not YA. #UFChat
8:43 am AnassaRh: Heading into the #ufchat transcript. Consider yourselves warned. (Imagine tonight will be long and rambly.)
8:47 am AnassaRh: Trends in 2010′s UF? More fae, some steampunk. YA had those too, plus angels and medium-types. #ufchat
8:49 am specficdb: RT @AnassaRh: Trends in 2010′s UF? More fae, some steampunk. YA had those too, plus angels and medium-types. #ufchat
8:51 am AnassaRh: I’m not sure I see an emphasis on magic in the 2010 UF. Upcoming? Yeah, I think we’ll probably see that. #ufchat
8:52 am AnassaRh: I suspect we’ll see more mixed-myth worlds, where it’s not just Celtic or Norse or Roman, but is a bit of everything. #ufchat
8:53 am specficdb: RT @AnassaRh: I suspect we’ll see more mixed-myth worlds, where it’s not just Celtic or Norse or Roman, but is a bit of everything. #ufchat
8:54 am AnassaRh: Books I’m looking forward to? Bloodshot, Brush of Darkness, Midnight Riot, Heartless, Late Eclipses, One Salt Sea, MM of Labyrinth. #ufchat
8:55 am AnassaRh: And of course, there are a whole lot of pre-2011 books I haven’t gotten through yet. #ufchat
8:55 am specficdb: RT @AnassaRh: Books I’m looking forward to? Bloodshot, Brush of Darkness, Midnight Riot, Heartless, Late Eclipses, One Salt Sea, MM of Labyrinth. #ufchat
8:59 am AnassaRh: I didn’t pull up the Orbit links, but if memory serves, we’re seeing less flesh, more sensible outfits. Also more heads? #ufchat
9:03 am jolantru: RT @AnassaRh: Trends in 2010′s UF? More fae, some steampunk. YA had those too, plus angels and medium-types. #ufchat
9:04 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy @leapetra Toe stepping’s likely an issue, yeah. Also scant records for some baddies, and general lack of knowledge. #ufchat
9:05 am AnassaRh: .@inkgypsy @leapetra I’d imagine many more people know Western, even Asian monsters, than do the American ones. #ufchat
9:06 am AnassaRh: Of course, there are lots of American monsters created by whites. We don’t see those ones either. #ufchat
9:17 am AnassaRh: @Rachel__Graves I second the October Daye rec. Also Kat Richardson, Stacia Kane, Suzanne McLeod, Lilith Saintcrow, Mike Carey. #ufchat
9:20 am AnassaRh: So, looks like #ufchat was less guided than I’d expected (no crit to @shadowflame1974). Looking forward to more open chats, though.
9:21 am AnassaRh: More predictions of things to come? Based on comments in previous #ufchat‘s, we’ll start seeing women with families and non-Western monsters
9:22 am AnassaRh: It also sounds like there’s going to be a backlash against alpha-alpha males and MCs in law enforcement. #ufchat
9:23 am AnassaRh: And I’m totally up for all of that! Even if I’m not writing about most of that stuff at the moment. #ufchat
9:23 am jolantru: RT @AnassaRh: More predictions of things to come? Based on comments in previous #ufchat‘s, we’ll start seeing women with families and non-Western monsters
11:43 am crazy_legz: @ariadne aye but on Tuesday we have #Flitchat which does all things fantasy #UFChat is just for Urban Fantasy ;-)
12:38 pm leapetra: RT @anassarh: It also sounds like there’s going to be a backlash against alpha-alpha males and MCs in law enforcement. #ufchat <agree
3:32 pm marirandomities: Many, many thanks! :) RT @kimidreams: The #ufchat Daily is out! http://bit.ly/etTGlm ? Top stories today via @marirandomities @UF_Chat
February 7, 2011
3:29 am jolantru: Excerpt is out!: http://www.lyricalpress.com/store/index.php?main_page=authors&authors_id=165 #ufchat
 

 

 

Triple Treat GIVEAWAY! + Q&A with Dr. Rebecca Housel of the Blackwell Philosophy & Pop Culture Series

This Saturday

- January 22nd, 2011 -

you could WIN THREE different

- and incredibly awesome –

books!

Just join us at 3pm PST/6pmEST as usual for #UFchat and bring questions for Dr. Housel.

There will be three chances to win, happening at random points DURING the Q&A!

3 chances for 3 minutes each for 3 different books!

(Winners announced within half an hour of the chat-end.)

And that doesn’t even hint at the subversive (and extremely fun!) discussion we’ll be having!

To quote @DocHousel, our guest returning for the 2nd time:

“Vampy Twihard/Fangbanger #UFchat (on) 1/22 with wicked hot #Giveaway….”

Bring your bad thoughts – we want to think bad things with you!

;)

Transcript for December 18th, 2010: A UF Winter Wonderland of Christmas Weirdness & Other Merry Holiday Mayhem

This week’s TOPIC: ‘Tis the season for superstition, Santa and spirits – among other things! Urban fantasy is everywhere during holidays!

Whether you celebrate Xmas, Yule, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa (or something else) there’s a whole lot of paranormal this time of year! From Saint Nick and elves invading houses to zombie carols and antlered winter hunters, there’s a little UF for everyone…

And we have GIFTS! For YOU!! Up for grabs: Wolfsbane & Mistletoe antho, Zombie Xmas Carols, Holidays Are Hell antho, Haunted Holidays antho, Naked City antho!!

Apologies for the delay – I wanted to confirm the order of our guest authors being Q&A’d in January before posting any sort of announcement because… that’s right! We have TWO authors being interviewed in the first month and more lined up for February and beyond! (Details for our January 8th return at the end.)

Official UFchat questions are in YELLOW.

Resources/ topic-related links are in BLUE.

5:54 pm jimnduncan: RT @inkgypsy: Lots to win today in #UFchat! Xmas/Yule themed w ghosts (& goats!) of past/future, invading elves + more UF seasonal-weird. 3pmPST Pls RT
6:00 pm UF_Chat: #Ufchat gets spirit of GIVEAWAYS today! Ghosts to elves, goats to mistletoe, headless shadows to baby puddings – chat Xmas UF style! 3pmPST
6:00 pm inkgypsy: #Ufchat gets spirit of GIVEAWAYS today! Ghosts to elves, goats to mistletoe, headless shadows to baby puddings – chat Xmas UF style! 3pmPST
7:00 pm inkgypsy: “People born on Xmas fortunate as supposedly can’t drown/hang OR unfortunate as see ghosts & spirits…” More in #UFchat today! 3pmPST
7:01 pm UF_Chat: “People born on Xmas fortunate as supposedly can’t drown/hang OR unfortunate as see ghosts & spirits…” More in #UFchat today! 3pmPST
7:45 pm inkgypsy: Look what we have for you to win in our Xmas/Yule/holiday themed #UFchat today! http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo 3pm PST/6pm EST (Pls RT)
7:45 pm UF_Chat: Look what we have for you to win in our Xmas/Yule/holiday themed #UFchat today! http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo 3pm PST/6pm EST (Pls RT)
7:47 pm shadowflame1974: RT @UF_Chat: Look what we have for you to win in our Xmas/Yule/holiday themed #UFchat today! http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo 3pm PST/6pm EST (Pls RT)
7:48 pm specficdb: RT @inkgypsy: Look what we have for you to win in our Xmas/Yule/holiday themed #UFchat today! http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo 3pm PST/6pm EST (Pls RT)
7:50 pm PoseySessions: RT @inkgypsy: Look what we have for you to win in our Xmas/Yule/holiday themed #UFchat today! http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo 3pm PST/6pm EST (Pls RT)
8:00 pm UF_Chat: “Some believe those born on Xmas Eve turn into ghosts every year while sleeping…” (Remedy revealed in 3 hrs: #UFchat 3pmPST + GIVEAWAYS!)
8:00 pm inkgypsy: “Some believe those born on Xmas Eve turn into ghosts every year while sleeping…” (Remedy revealed in 3 hrs: #UFchat 3pmPST + GIVEAWAYS!)
8:02 pm shadowflame1974: RT @inkgypsy: “Some believe those born on Xmas Eve turn into ghosts every year while sleeping…” (Remedy revealed in 3 hrs: #UFchat 3pmPST + GIVEAWAYS!)
9:00 pm UF_Chat: 2 hrs to last #UFchat of 2010! LOTS GIVEAWAYS!! Xmas/Yule themed season of superstition & winter weirdness! Come chat & WIN! 3pmPST Pls RT
9:00 pm inkgypsy: 2 hrs to last #UFchat of 2010! LOTS GIVEAWAYS!! Xmas/Yule themed season of superstition & winter weirdness! Come chat & WIN! 3pmPST Pls RT
9:41 pm shadowflame1974: An hour and 15 mins to #UFchat, Xmas themes and giveaways!
9:57 pm scootercarlyle: @inkgypsy Thank you so much. I’ll be there today if the toddler is still asleep! #UFchat
10:00 pm inkgypsy: 1 hr till #UFchat digs up the dirt on the Xmas supernatural underworld! We have BOOKS TO WIN too!! (our gift to you) 3pm PST/6pm EST Pls RT
10:00 pm UF_Chat: 1 hr till #UFchat digs up the dirt on the Xmas supernatural underworld! We have BOOKS TO WIN too!! (our gift to you) 3pm PST/6pm EST Pls RT
10:00 pm Jess_Haines: RT @inkgypsy: 1 hr till #UFchat digs up the dirt on the Xmas supernatural underworld! We have BOOKS TO WIN too!! (our gift to you) 3pm PST/6pm EST Pls RT
10:05 pm J_GriffinB: RT @inkgypsy: 1 hr till #UFchat digs up the dirt on the Xmas supernatural underworld! We have BOOKS TO WIN too!! (our gift to you) 3pm PST/6pm EST Pls RT
10:06 pm J_GriffinB: RT @UF_Chat: 1 hr till #UFchat digs up the dirt on the Xmas supernatural underworld! We have BOOKS TO WIN too!! (our gift to you) 3pm PST/6pm EST Pls RT
10:09 pm J_GriffinB: @cvaldezmiller @saramcclung @Karen_Hooper @gina_penn #UFChat beginith in a fitty-uno minutoes.
10:10 pm shadowflame1974: 50 minutes to Winter Wonderland #UFchat Come and see what things go bump on Christmas eve!
10:13 pm inkgypsy: @crookedfang AWesome! BTW we’re having lots of giveaways on #UFchat today. Wanna come? You could win somethin’. ;)
10:15 pm crookedfang: RT @inkgypsy: 1 hr till #UFchat digs up the dirt on the Xmas supernatural underworld! We have BOOKS TO WIN too!! (our gift to you) 3pm PST/6pm EST Pls RT
10:22 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy Any sign of Krampus in this chat tonight #ufchat
10:26 pm shadowflame1974: Grab the sleigh bells and watch the mistletoe, we have #UFchat coming up in 30 minutes. Giveaways to some of our participants today!
10:27 pm sandrawickham: RT @shadowflame1974: Grab the sleigh bells and watch the mistletoe, we have #UFchat coming up in 30 minutes. Giveaways to some of our participants today!
10:28 pm sandrawickham: @shadowflame1974 #UFchat is always on when I’m sitting down to write! Ack!! I’ll still peek in… :D
10:30 pm inkgypsy: 30 mins to last #UFchat of 2010! Xmas with a UF take today + BOOKS TO WIN! (multiple chances) Lookee here: http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo 3pmPST
10:30 pm UF_Chat: 30 mins to last #UFchat of 2010! Xmas with a UF take today + BOOKS TO WIN! (multiple chances) Lookee here: http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo 3pmPST
10:30 pm J_GriffinB: RT @UF_Chat: 30 mins to last #UFchat of 2010! Xmas with a UF take today + BOOKS TO WIN! (multiple chances) Lookee here: http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo 3pmPST
10:45 pm UF_Chat: Oh come all ye faithful #UFchat folk! 15 min countdown to our last #UFChat of 2010! Xmas themed w gifts for U! Multi chances to win. 3pmPST
10:45 pm inkgypsy: Oh come all ye faithful #UFchat folk! 15 min countdown to our last #UFChat of 2010! Xmas themed w gifts for U! Multi chances to win. 3pmPST
10:45 pm shadowflame1974: 15 minutes until #UFchat! Bring your stocking because we have gifts!
10:46 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery Will call when the movie is over. :D Also, you should come to #UFChat!
10:46 pm JulieeJohnsonn: RT @UF_Chat: Oh come all ye faithful #UFchat folk! 15 min countdown to our last #UFChat of 2010! Xmas themed w gifts for U! Multi chances to win. 3pmPST
10:46 pm sandrawickham: RT @inkgypsy: Oh come all ye faithful #UFchat folk! 15 min countdown to our last #UFChat of 2010! Xmas themed w gifts for U! Multi chances to win. 3pmPST
10:47 pm specficdb: RT @UF_Chat: Oh come all ye faithful #UFchat folk! 15 min countdown to our last #UFChat of 2010! Xmas themed w gifts for U! Multi chances to win. 3pmPST
10:48 pm inkgypsy: Putting on my #UFchat Santa hat (& my boots – of course!) for the Xmas/Yule themed UF GIVEAWAY DAY today!
10:48 pm inkgypsy: RT @shadowflame1974: 15 minutes until #UFchat! Bring your stocking because we have gifts!
10:48 pm melissacarmic: RT @inkgypsy: Oh come all ye faithful #UFchat folk! 15 min countdown to our last #UFChat of 2010! Xmas themed w gifts for U! Multi chances to win. 3pmPST
10:49 pm shadowflame1974: going to have to bail in a few for #UFchat everyone is welcome to hop over when you are done here :D We have Giveaways ;) #cyberpunkchat
10:50 pm UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds: An Urban Fantasy Holiday in 12 Days http://bit.ly/5S4FQD #UFchat
10:50 pm inkgypsy: Primer for #UFchat early birds: An Urban Fantasy Holiday in 12 Days http://bit.ly/5S4FQD #UFchat
10:50 pm UF_Chat: A UF Winter Wonderland of Xmas Weirdness & Other Merry Holiday Mayhem + GIFTS for YOU! (http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo ) #UFchat in 11 mins!
10:50 pm inkgypsy: A UF Winter Wonderland of Xmas Weirdness & Other Merry Holiday Mayhem + GIFTS for YOU! (http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo ) #UFchat in 11 mins!
10:51 pm inkgypsy: Primer #2 for @UFchat early birds: Season of Superstition http://bit.ly/icr8Nz #UFchat
10:51 pm UF_Chat: Primer #2 for @UFchat early birds: Season of Superstition http://bit.ly/icr8Nz #UFchat
10:51 pm leapetra: RT @uf_chat: A UF Winter Wonderland of Xmas Weirdness & Other Merry Holiday Mayhem + GIFTS for YOU! #UFchat in 11 mins!
10:54 pm sandrawickham: This is great! RT @inkgypsy: Primer for #UFchat early birds: An Urban Fantasy Holiday in 12 Days http://bit.ly/5S4FQD #UFchat
10:57 pm UF_Chat: Have you read @Jayewells urban fantasy take on 12 days? It’s today’s #UFchat primer! http://bit.ly/5S4FQD 4 mins till we start + GIVEAWAYS!
10:57 pm inkgypsy: Have you read @Jayewells urban fantasy take on 12 days? It’s today’s #UFchat primer! http://bit.ly/5S4FQD 4 mins till we start + GIVEAWAYS!
10:58 pm ajackwriting: RT @sandrawickham: This is great! RT @inkgypsy: Primer for #UFchat early birds: An Urban Fantasy Holiday in 12 Days http://bit.ly/5S4FQD #UFchat
10:58 pm inkgypsy: Hmm – might be good… #UFchat #scifichat RT @SciFiTweetn: Dollhouse Comic Coming in March http://bit.ly/ibzH1W
11:00 pm UF_Chat: 3, 2… & now live with #UFchat! It?s the Xmas edition and we have GIFTS! (Yes ? you?ve all been such good brain food this year.) #ufchat
11:00 pm Jess_Haines: #ufchat Woo hoo!
11:00 pm UF_Chat: 1st: Apologies for not getting Q&A w Merrie transcript up ? been wk of vet emergencies. Working on it. Hope to have it up v soon. #ufchat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: TODAY: Whether you celebrate Xmas, Yule, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa (or something else) there?s a whole lot of paranormal this time of year! #ufchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: From Saint Nick and elves invading houses to zombie carols and antlered winter hunters, there?s a little UF for everyone. #ufchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: Giveaways will happen DURING #UFchat for participants ? stay sharp & be ready to use your google-fu to scavenge for answers? #ufchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: There are 3 chances to win DURING the chat & extra TRIPLE book prize at end for writers up for a little holiday UF challenge. #ufchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: Up for grabs: Wolfsbane & Mistletoe antho, Zombie Xmas Carols, Holidays Are Hell antho, Haunted Holidays antho, Naked City antho!! #ufchat
11:02 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Wow! And hooray!! #UFchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: See here: http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo for covers & info on books to be won today! #ufchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: TODAY: ?Tis the season for superstition, Santa and spirits – among other things! Urban fantasy is everywhere during holidays! #ufchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: Reminder: ?S? stands for statement, which will be followed by a ?Q? (a related #UFchat question for discussion). #ufchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: Today we?ll have ?Xmas Potluck?: fun questions, scavenger ?google-hunts? (books to win!), chat re Xmas/Yule lore & UF possibilities. #ufchat
11:02 pm sandrawickham: Check this out people!! RT @UF_Chat: See here: http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo for covers & info on books to be won today! #ufchat
11:03 pm J_GriffinB: (S) Here now. #UFchat
11:03 pm Jess_Haines: #ufchat Awesome! :D
11:03 pm UF_Chat: Q1: Ghosts were Xmas regulars long before Scrooge. Why do you think that is? (Don’t worry – will let you know when PRIZE Qs up!) #ufchat
11:03 pm jamigold: Awesome! I love it! RT @UF_Chat: Have you read @Jayewells urban fantasy take on 12 days? http://bit.ly/5S4FQD #UFchat #urbanfantasy
11:03 pm leapetra: Cannot wait #ufchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB @Jess_Haines @sandrawickham @jamigold @leapetra Hello all! #ufchat
11:04 pm Diane_Amy: @leapetra when is #ufchat?
11:04 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Q1: Perhaps it’s a time for people to think of family passed on? Friends passed on??#UFchat
11:04 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat because it’s so close to the solstice. the veil was thinner then. #ufchat
11:04 pm leapetra: @Diane_Amy Right now! #ufchat
11:04 pm J_GriffinB: @Diane_Amy Now. #UFchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: Ghosts and Christmas go together… why do you think that is? #ufchat
11:04 pm NicolePeeler: RT @inkgypsy: Putting on my #UFchat Santa hat (& my boots – of course!) for the Xmas/Yule themed UF GIVEAWAY DAY today!
11:05 pm UF_Chat: @Diane_Amy Starting right now! Join us. :) #ufchat
11:05 pm leapetra: @Diane_Amy http://tweetchat.com/room/ufchat #ufchat
11:05 pm J_GriffinB: A1 Because the season also marks the new year, and Xmas was adapted from earlier religious holidays having different meanings. #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra Wonder what they do between Halloween & Xmas? Hang & Haunt? :D (story story!) #ufchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: Q1a: What other ghosts/spirits besides past/present/future are associated with Xmas/Yule you know of? #ufchat
11:05 pm J_GriffinB: A1 Venerate the spirits of your ancestors. #UFchat
11:06 pm gina_penn: Newbie to #ufchat!
11:07 pm inkgypsy: #freebies #giveaway #UFchat RIGHT NOW! Come join us – talk Xmas, get gifts! Use the hashtag to participate. Merry UF giveaway day!
11:07 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat A1a the general “Christmas Spirit” :D #ufchat
11:07 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A1a Isn’t the Horned Hunt one? #UFchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: @gina_penn Welcome! Jump in – all comments welcome. :) #UFchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: S: Xmas tree lights originally lanterns hung on tree to show spirits the way home. Candles still used regularly in windows at Xmas. #ufchat
11:07 pm Jess_Haines: #ufchat A1a I’m drawing a blank, lol. I know there definitely are some, but I can’trecall which they are.
11:07 pm J_GriffinB: @gina_penn Welcome, lovely! Gina has great horror chops, folks! #UFchat
11:07 pm LGwenn: Hey I finally made it to a #UFChat ! #ufchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: Q1b: What is the connection between ghosts and light? Is it different at Xmas? #ufchat
11:08 pm UF_Chat: @LGwenn Welcome! It’s merry giveaway day today in #UFchat! :D
11:08 pm Jess_Haines: #ufchat A1b My recollection is that people used to put candles in their windows at night to guide people/spirits to their homes.
11:08 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat A1a spirits or creatures. There are so many associated. #ufchat
11:08 pm UF_Chat: Q1c: Are ghosts thought of differently/fondly at Xmas compared to eg Halloween? Why? #ufchat
11:09 pm jamigold: @leapetra Thanks for the TweetChat link. I’m trying to figure this out. #ufchat
11:09 pm StacyMaynard: Hey all thanks Jess for tweeting about this, I have never heard of it. #ufchat
11:09 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat A1b the shortest day of the year, the longest night, makes more sense that ghosts would come #ufchat
11:09 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat A1b Was just researching candles for current WIP, used to fend off evil spirits. Maybe relevance with xmas time?! #UFchat
11:09 pm LGwenn: Q1bI think it is winter in general– the days are darker…things are dying…so we are more aware of death and of light #ufchat
11:09 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A1b Would we not all be ghosts if the light of spring didn’t return, a reason for offering things at the winter solstice? #UFchat
11:10 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat Q1c I would assume so. Halloween’s more mischievous in nature whereas xmas is more family-based/recalling deceased family #ufchat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: I’m going to let people warm up & trickle in before asking a GIVEAWAY question – ok? I’ll make it REALLY clear. ;) #ufchat
11:10 pm leapetra: @jamigold Nice thing about the tweetchat, you don’t have to worry about the hashtag #ufchat
11:10 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat A1c Could go back to what @leapetra said about the general “Christmas Spirit”! People feeling warm and generous… #UFchat
11:10 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Thank ya! :D #ufchat
11:10 pm gina_penn: Thanks! And Thanks to Griffin for sounding the warning bell on this one. #UFchat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB Ooh deep! And please write that story! #ufchat
11:11 pm sandrawickham: @leapetra Oh really? Cuz I’ve forgotten the hashtag at least once! Maybe I should switch to tweetchat. #UFchat
11:11 pm jamigold: @UF_Chat A1c I think at Christmas people are thinking positive thoughts about the mysteries of the world. #ufchat
11:11 pm specficdb: RT @UF_Chat: I’m going to let people warm up & trickle in before asking a GIVEAWAY question – ok? I’ll make it REALLY clear. ;) #ufchat
11:11 pm UF_Chat: Q2: With antho title Wolfsbane & Mistletoe as inspiration, what unique aspects of season think would appeal/repel vampires & why? #ufchat
11:11 pm J_GriffinB: @sandrawickham It is easiest to use: http://tweetchat.com/room/UFchat #UFchat
11:11 pm LGwenn: http://tweetchat.com/room/ufchat <<<tweetchat for #UFChat #ufchat
11:12 pm Jess_Haines: #ufchat A2 I think that it gets darker earlier and people are more inviting would tend to draw more vampires.
11:12 pm UF_Chat: S: If Santa needs replacing (benevolent) vampire might do job well! (Super speed/strength, long lived, red outfit? Just sayin’. ;) #ufchat
11:12 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat Q2: All the Christmas lights & xmas spirit might repel vampires #ufchat
11:12 pm PoseySessions: RT @UF_Chat: I’m going to let people warm up & trickle in before asking a GIVEAWAY question – ok? I’ll make it REALLY clear. ;) #ufchat
11:12 pm Jess_Haines: #ufchat A2 (cont) The general merriment might disgust and repel some of them, though. *g*
11:12 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Easy for a Vamp to hunt during the New Years parties, Christmas parties… #UFchat
11:13 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat #ufchat LOL, only if it’s red leather, baby!
11:13 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Death stepped in once! he he #ufchat
11:13 pm Book_Faery: @J_GriffinB Oh yeah, lots of people drinking that eggnog haha #ufchat
11:13 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Ooh nice – thresholds less guarded due to general good feelings & generosity? Oh boy… #ufchat
11:13 pm Jess_Haines: #ufchat LOL, oh yeah. Drunk people everywhere!
11:13 pm LGwenn: Q2- but all the people outside of their homes caroling on a long night… #ufchat
11:13 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat #ufchat Absolutely. Think how easy it would be to take advantage.
11:13 pm UF_Chat: Q2a: What about werewolves? How would they fit with the current Xmas traditions/stories/superstitions? #ufchat
11:14 pm leapetra: As a vampire most ppl invite any one in during the holidays. #ufchat
11:14 pm J_GriffinB: @Book_Faery Even the vamps that look a bit off. “Man, I must have been beer-goggling something fierce last night!” #UFchat
11:14 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat #ufchat A2a Weres would most likely hate all the strong scents associated with the season. Sensitive noses, and all that.
11:15 pm Book_Faery: #ufchat Dress the werewolves up as reindeer! Rudolph noses and those car antlers. Bet you’d they’d get mad fast :P
11:15 pm Jess_Haines: #ufchat A2a I think they’d like all the food, though. Hehe. People tend to have huge spreads at their Xmas and New Year’s parties.
11:15 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Think about all those layers & coats (ha ha) to hide under too tho – could be useful.. ;) #UFchat
11:15 pm TeresaDAmario: @Book_Faery oh now that’s just mean! LOL #ufchat
11:15 pm UF_Chat: @Book_Faery LOL! #UFchat
11:16 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat I like the pissed off druid. You cut the mistletoe I needed for my potion o world domination so U could get laid? DIE! #UFchat
11:16 pm UF_Chat: Q3: Zombie Santa parodies are common Creepy Christmas greetings now? Why pick zombies to emulate/parody Santa? #ufchat
11:16 pm leapetra: S werewolves would love the family aspect. The pack around the fire and such #ufchat
11:16 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery #ufchat ROFL! Like Chaz and his antlers! http://urbanfantasyinvestigations.blogspot.com/2010/12/guest-blog-jess-haines.html
11:16 pm shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB lol #UFchat
11:16 pm sandrawickham: @UF_chat I’m still trying to figure out tweetchat…LOL. #UFchat
11:17 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra Xlnt point – would be a good reason to have a giant gathering which wouldn’t draw attention, complete w weird rituals! #UFchat
11:17 pm Book_Faery: A3: Santa’s almost like an immortal figure due to the xmas tradition. Maybe Santa really is undead #ufchat
11:17 pm Book_Faery: @J_GriffinB LMAO vampire beer goggles. Classic #ufchat
11:17 pm shadowflame1974: @sandrawickham did you get logged in hon? #UFchat
11:17 pm gina_penn: @J_GriffinB #UFchat – you wouldn’t?
11:17 pm inkgypsy: @sandrawickham If you go on web to tweetchat.com & use #UFchat hashtag it shows you all entries as posted & adds hashtag FOR you – easier.
11:18 pm leapetra: A3 Rare Imports a new movie. Santa is dug out of his burial mound and he is not happy #ufchat
11:18 pm Book_Faery: @TeresaDAmario @UF_Chat You could bribe the weres with lots of food and booze ;) Maybe they’d wear the antlers if they got trashed #ufchat
11:18 pm UF_Chat: @Book_Faery Now you’re drinking my cool-aid! (egg nog?) Agree! #ufchat
11:19 pm J_GriffinB: IIII saaaaw Mommy kissing the dead dude got caught in the chimney last night? #UFchat
11:19 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat Blargh, trying to get TweetChat going…
11:19 pm leapetra: a3 or was it Rare Exports, I cant remember #ufchat
11:19 pm UF_Chat: GIVEAWAY CHALLENGE 1: What IS remedy if U turn into a ghost every Xmas Eve (on birthday)? 1st to answer + link to source wins! GO! #ufchat
11:19 pm sandrawickham: @inkgypsy I’m in! I think tweetdeck might be faster though..but without the auto hashtag. I’ll manage with one or the other! Thanks #UFchat
11:19 pm jamigold: What kind of para creature would Santa be? RT @Book_Faery: A3: Santas almost like an immortal figure due to the xmas tradition. #ufchat
11:19 pm Jinxie_G: RT @UF_Chat: GIVEAWAY CHALLENGE 1: What IS remedy if U turn into a ghost every Xmas Eve (on birthday)? 1st to answer + link to source wins! GO! #ufchat
11:20 pm UF_Chat: @sandrawickham I actualy have both open for that reason. :D I like your brains… braaaaaiiiinssss!!! ;D #UFchat
11:20 pm LGwenn: GAC_counting the holes in a sieve #ufchat
11:20 pm daggyvamp: RT @UF_Chat: S: If Santa needs replacing (benevolent) vampire might do job well! (Super speed/strength, long lived, red outfit? Just sayin’. ;) #ufchat
11:20 pm J_GriffinB: @Book_Faery With norse or irish weres you could count on drinking insane amounts of alcohol. Time to play light the tail, anyone? #UFchat
11:20 pm leapetra: @LGwenn Beat me too it! :D #ufchat
11:20 pm Book_Faery: @JamiGold Mrs. Claus is a vampire and she bit Santa… Lots of easy access to blood. That or he’s the cookie monster in disguise #ufchat
11:20 pm gina_penn: @J_GriffinB Now there’s a new awesome xmas song… #UFchat
11:21 pm UF_Chat: @LGwenn 1/2 way there! I need your source link… Quick! #ufchat
11:21 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Challenge Ans 1 — count holes in a sieve from 11 to 12 http://bit.ly/fxKGoS #UFchat
11:21 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat I could totally use some eggnog right now :D ! #ufchat
11:22 pm jamigold: LOL! Could be… RT @EverettMaroon: @JamiGold I think Santa is a fat Elf. #ufchat
11:22 pm Jess_Haines: @JamiGold Isn’t he called an elf in several Xmas carols and such? #UFchat
11:22 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery #UFchat Ick, I actually hate the taste of eggnog, lol
11:22 pm gina_penn: I’ve always wondered what Santa would look like as a zombie… #UFchat
11:22 pm sandrawickham: YES! With rum, of course… RT @Book_Faery: @UF_Chat I could totally use some eggnog right now :D ! #ufchat
11:23 pm UF_Chat: Oh boy! Remember 2 parts to answer challenge! Answer PLUS source to win! Sorry @LGwenn – more chances coming! #ufchat
11:23 pm leapetra: @Jess_Haines I like the theory that Santa, might be Odin in disguise #ufchat
11:23 pm UF_Chat: Winner of Challenge 1 is: @Jess_Haines CONGRATS! You?ve won a copy of Zombie Carols! DM me mailing addy & email at end pls. #ufchat
11:23 pm Book_Faery: @J_GriffinB Drunken dog sleds? #ufchat
11:23 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra #UFchat Ohh, I’ve never heard that one…
11:23 pm leapetra: to heck with egg nog. Give me Glogg!!!! #ufchat
11:23 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Woo hoo!! :D #UFchat
11:24 pm UF_Chat: Q4: What less-used UF creatures might be more ?active? or ?at home? during the holiday season in our world? Why? #ufchat
11:24 pm MerrieDestefano: Oooh. Vampire Santa. Very cool. Or werewolf Santa, delivering presents, but oh, no. It’s a full moon! #UFchat
11:24 pm sandrawickham: @Jess_Haines Yay! Congrats. :) #UFchat
11:24 pm Book_Faery: DEF!! RT @sandrawickham: YES! With rum, of course… RT @Book_Faery: @UF_Chat I could totally use some eggnog right now :D ! #ufchat
11:24 pm J_GriffinB: @Book_Faery First one to pass out gets his tail lit on fire, then the rest of the pack chases the flaming Were. #UFchat
11:24 pm leapetra: @Jess_Haines other than not being blind in one eye, Santa looks like Odin #ufchat
11:24 pm jamigold: @Jess_Haines I think you’re right about that. But they always portray him as being taller than the other elves too. #ufchat
11:25 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A4: The hearth spirit should be basking in holiday glow. #UFchat
11:25 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat A4 Fairies that light up when they fly. LOL. #UFchat
11:25 pm J_GriffinB: @leapetra @Jess_Haines Could be a glass eye. #UFchat
11:25 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat A4 Bogarts, poltergeist, brownies, #ufchat
11:25 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra I always thought so too! Esp since his CocaCola artist makeover! (Santa like Odin but 2 working eyes) #ufchat
11:25 pm leapetra: @J_GriffinB That would explain the twinkle in his eye #ufchat
11:25 pm UF_Chat: Q4a: Trolls are common in stories ? incl Xmas ones ? in Scandanavia/Norway. Why do they work with Xmas? #ufchat
11:26 pm J_GriffinB: A4 Angels. #UFchat
11:26 pm jamigold: @UF_Chat A4: Whatever those beings from the Elves and Shoemaker story are supposed to be. #ufchat
11:26 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat OMG, losing track of convo, need a sec to catch up…!
11:26 pm J_GriffinB: A4: Saints and Martyrs. #UFchat
11:26 pm leapetra: A4a @UF_Chat THE YULE LADS #ufchat
11:26 pm sharlascroggs: @leapetra ok now I want eggnog…but what is Glogg? #ufchat
11:27 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat A4 Flying reindeer, lol
11:27 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB I like fire spirits/elementals – not used enough (thankful for @Laura_Bickle‘s series!) #ufchat
11:27 pm sandrawickham: @Jess_Haines Well, if you’d stop celebrating your big win and pay attention…HA!! ;) #UFchat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: Q4b: How might very different creatures like mermaids celebrate the holidays? What about other popular UF creatures? #ufchat
11:27 pm leapetra: The yule lads were the kids of two trolls. They liked the kids and give them gifts #ufchat
11:27 pm Jess_Haines: @sandrawickham What’s that? Sorry, I was too busy cavorting with glee to notice. :D #UFchat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: (In case you’re wondering there are a LOT of mermaids appearing in YA UF in particular right now.) #ufchat
11:27 pm leapetra: @sharlascroggs A mulled wine with vodka or brandy #ufchat
11:27 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat 4b Mermaids? Would they even notice the change of seasons at the bottom of the ocean floor?
11:28 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat A4b: Mermaids can use seaweed for wreaths! And seaglass for lights. #ufchat
11:28 pm sandrawickham: @Book_Faery Nice. #ufchat
11:28 pm UF_Chat: S: Clement Moore (author of Twas the Night Before Christmas/A Visit from Saint Nicholas poem) called Santa ?an elf?. #ufchat
11:28 pm Olcracker: RT @leapetra: The yule lads were the kids of two trolls. They liked the kids and give them gifts #ufchat
11:28 pm shadowflame1974: can you imagine all of the soggy wrapping paper or do they use sea weeds #UFchat
11:28 pm J_GriffinB: @Jess_Haines Yes, at least in the tidal temperatures. More of an annual thing. #UFchat
11:28 pm UF_Chat: @Book_Faery OOh seaglass lights! Pretty! Plus that luminous algae on the waves stuff would be handy too. #ufchat
11:29 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines If you’re Ariel you’re chillin on rocks watching humanity anyway, so why not! :P #ufchat
11:29 pm UF_Chat: Q5: Why do you think he used that description to describe Saint Nick? Is Santa an Uber-elf? #ufchat
11:29 pm Jess_Haines: @J_GriffinB @Book_Faery #UFchat I’m trying to imagine what they’d make ornaments out of. Coral?
11:29 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat Yes, definitely! And I bet you they could use fish scales #ufchat
11:29 pm jamigold: @UF_Chat A4b: Would all the shiny lights and decorations distract/confuse dragons or those into acquisitions? #ufchat
11:29 pm J_GriffinB: @Jess_Haines Though where they would get christian idea from, I know not. #UFchat
11:29 pm UF_Chat: Q6: What might be a good gift for Frankenstein?s monster? Why? #ufchat
11:30 pm Jess_Haines: @JamiGold #UFchat DUDE. Dragons celebrating Christmas sounds like an AWESOME idea for a story!
11:30 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat A hug due to never being accepted in his life #ufchat
11:30 pm UF_Chat: I think I’ve derailed everyone with the mermaid question… LOL! #ufchat
11:30 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat #UFchat A fire extinguisher. For obvious reasons. :D
11:30 pm Book_Faery: Whoops, that was A6 #ufchat
11:30 pm shadowflame1974: elves are immortal and have the mysterious aspects. Plus they aren’t afraid to leave warning for those who are bad #UFchat
11:30 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat The fattest elf, given hormones to raise the beard? Or perhaps an elf dated one of those trolls? #UFchat
11:30 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat That was A6 btw, lol
11:31 pm Jess_Haines: @J_GriffinB #UFchat Study of humanity from afar?
11:31 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines Yeah I forgot D: & yeah ornaments could be fish or coral or shells? #ufchat
11:31 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB Xmas shares a lot with midwinter festivals of many cultures. Christians ‘appropriated’ & used for own purposes (smart). #ufchat
11:31 pm jamigold: @Jess_Haines Hah! I have a dragon WIP, I might have to add a Christmas scene. :) #ufchat
11:31 pm J_GriffinB: A6 and perhaps Santa is the offspring. #UFchat
11:31 pm Jess_Haines: @J_GriffinB DO EEEEET. I wanna see! :D #UFchat
11:31 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines LOL! #ufchat
11:31 pm UF_Chat: Q6a: How might Jekyll & Hyde celebrate/wreck the season? Would it be a good time of yr or a bad time for him/them? #ufchat
11:31 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Or perhaps an apostle fell for the siren song? #UFchat
11:31 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat I want to go back to this mermaid thing. I’m intrigued. What about Jewish mermaids? Coral for their menorahs, too? LOL
11:32 pm UF_Chat: Q7: Speaking of gifts, what would be some great gifts for UF writers and/or readers? #ufchat
11:32 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Giving rise to Christianity among the Mer… #UFchat
11:32 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat A7 Speaking as a writer, books. All books, all the time. :D #UFchat
11:32 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB Mary Magdalene was a mermaid..? Interesting! #ufchat
11:32 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat A7: more books! :P #ufchat
11:32 pm J_GriffinB: Ships lost at sea were taken for their religious iconography… Wow… I’m a fountain today. #UFchat
11:32 pm UF_Chat: Q7a: What are some items/tools discoveries that made your writing life easier this past year? #ufchat
11:33 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery I want the antho with the Jim Butcher story. D: #UFchat
11:33 pm jamigold: @UF_Chat Yeah, I’m with @Jess_Haines. I’m a book slut. :) #ufchat
11:33 pm UF_Chat: Q7b: What?s on YOUR Xmas UF writing/reading wishlist? Pls share! #ufchat
11:33 pm leapetra: In case you are wondering about the Yule Lads and the Black Cat http://www.simnet.is/gardarj/yule5.htm #ufchat
11:33 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines Ahh with Patty Briggs? Me too x_x #ufchat
11:33 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat A7 Definitely books. Or, a dream critique from a UF author!!!! ;) #ufchat
11:33 pm UF_Chat: Resource: Top Ten gifts for Fantasy of Science Fiction Writers: http://bit.ly/fgElbE #ufchat
11:33 pm J_GriffinB: A7a: SCRIVENER! #UFchat
11:33 pm UF_Chat: Resource 2: Great gifts for geeks & sci-fi & fantasy fans: http://bit.ly/ecCczA #ufchat
11:33 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat A7A I think it was last year that I discovered it, but I <3 the Absolute Write forum. #UFchat
11:34 pm shadowflame1974: this has made my life easier http://www.blackobelisksoftware.com/ so LOVE it #UFchat
11:34 pm UF_Chat: @jamigold Guilty also (think most of us are – can’t stuff enough bookshelves into my house!) #ufchat
11:34 pm leapetra: A7b get book 3 edited. #ufchat
11:34 pm shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB I didn’t like scrivener. too buggy and didn’t allow for as much customization #UFchat
11:34 pm Diane_Amy: Hi, sorry I’m late. *trying to catch up* #ufchat
11:34 pm jamigold: @UF_Chat A7a Twitter! I love Twitter. It makes getting connected to writer community so much easier. #ufchat
11:34 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat Ohhh, that’s right. I just got on Twitter like… a few weeks ago.
11:35 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Isn’t that an amazing forum? So great to mine + connect with ‘serious’ (I write because I must) writers. #ufchat
11:35 pm UF_Chat: @jamigold Me too! Huge plus! #ufchat
11:35 pm UF_Chat: Q7c: Even if just starting, what?s on your wishlist to help you achieve your writing goals? Are any UF/fantasy/sci-fi scpecific? #ufchat
11:35 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Heck yeah! I always lurk around there and help out newbs as much as I can. Love the SYW forum, too. #UFchat
11:35 pm J_GriffinB: @shadowflame1974 As opposed to what? And were you running it on a Mac or?? #UFchat
11:35 pm UF_Chat: GIVEAWAY 2: What mythical creature accompanied St Nick to punish bad kids? Why must kids be asleep? 1st answer+link source wins! GO! #ufchat
11:35 pm sandrawickham: @Jess_Haines @UF_Chat You’re making me feel guilty cuz I’m not on AW as much as I used to be!! But that’ s cuz I’m busy writing. #UFchat
11:36 pm Diane_Amy: I agree. Absolute Write is a fantastic resource. Great people. #ufchat
11:36 pm shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB windows and compared to LSB http://www.blackobelisksoftware.com/ for me no contest ;) #UFchat
11:36 pm Jess_Haines: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krampus Krampus! #ufchat
11:36 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat krampus http://tinyurl.com/757bn #ufchat
11:36 pm shadowflame1974: I’m still working on the AW angle #UFchat
11:37 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Giveaway 2: But why must they be asleep?? #UFchat
11:37 pm Diane_Amy: Since I’m unpublished right now, I found that connecting with others like me is a great resource. I started a FB group for us. #ufchat
11:38 pm UF_Chat: Winner of Challenge 2 is: @Book_Faery CONGRATS! You?ve won copy of Wolfsbane & Mistletoe antho! DM mailing addy & email at end pls. #ufchat
11:38 pm Jess_Haines: @sandrawickham Aw, don’t feel bad. I only go one at my lunch break Mon-Fri. #ufchat
11:38 pm UF_Chat: Q8: What standard Western Xmas characters/creatures are common for the season (all holidays)? #ufchat
11:38 pm J_GriffinB: @shadowflame1974 Seamless operation on my Mac, and lots of options for custimizing. I am happy, certainly won’t go back to Word #ufchat
11:38 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery Woot, congrats! #ufchat
11:39 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat angels #ufchat
11:39 pm pattilarsen: mind telling me what #ufchat stands for?
11:39 pm UF_Chat: @sandrawickham Oops you’re right! @Book_Faery you got part 2 to answer still – quick! #ufchat
11:39 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A8 Angels, Spirits, Ghosts #ufchat
11:39 pm Jess_Haines: AFK one sec, distracted by phone call #ufchat
11:39 pm jamigold: @UF_Chat A8: Elves #ufchat
11:40 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat They’re scared into being asleep. If they’re caught up the Krampus will think they were bad http://tinyurl.com/2dbwbp #ufchat
11:40 pm Laura_Bickle: Thanks for remembering Sparky the salamander! ;-) @UF_Chat @J_GriffinB I like fire spirits/elementals – not used enough #ufchat
11:40 pm shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB well Scrivner beta ate a short story the first week I used it. Got scared but am loving LSB. #UFchat
11:40 pm UF_Chat: @PattiLarsen Urban fantasy chat :) #UFchat
11:40 pm leapetra: @pattilarsen Urban Fantasy Chat #ufchat
11:40 pm pattilarsen: LOL THANKS! #ufchat
11:40 pm TeresaDAmario: @Book_Faery @UF_Chat #ufchat LOL Well, only booze actually gets them drunk! Food, maybe that would work. LOL
11:40 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat & take them away in his sack #ufchat
11:40 pm UF_Chat: @Book_Faery Quick on Part 2 of challenge answer or I will re-open to the group!! #UFchat
11:41 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat I did answer :) #ufchat
11:41 pm UF_Chat: @Book_Faery You got it – CONGRATS!! #ufchat
11:41 pm UF_Chat: S: Starter list: Santa, elves, flying reindeer, Frosty Snowman, Jack Frost, Father Winter, less common: Cernunnos, Herne Hunter… #ufchat
11:41 pm UF_Chat: Q8a: How might any of these be ?UF compatible? in a story/plot? #ufchat
11:42 pm UF_Chat: Q8b: Consider Frosty & Jack Frost ?snow to life. Many maiden/children/wife stories in cultures. Why is snow/ice personified so much? #ufchat
11:42 pm jamigold: @UF_Chat A8a: Oh, I could easily see a Jack Frost UF story. #ufchat
11:42 pm Book_Faery: @UF_Chat A8a: Snowmen could be animated by an evil ice witch and try to take over a city, maybe. #ufchat
11:42 pm leapetra: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yule_Goat just for another one #ufchat
11:42 pm Jess_Haines: I’m back! :D #ufchat
11:42 pm UF_Chat: Q8c: What about a Cernunnos/Rudolph & Santa?s reindeer mash-up play out? (with or without Santa) #ufchat
11:43 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat A8c O.o #ufchat
11:43 pm Book_Faery: @TeresaDAmario Food coma? :D #ufchat
11:43 pm J_GriffinB: A8a Timelines: The Horned Hunter will be arriving shortly. Please have your talisman or become prey for the Hunt. #ufchat
11:43 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra I love yule goats! Wish they were more avail as ornaments. Have friened who want to make a yule goat tree. hee hee! #UFchat
11:43 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines Dood, I should have Lucy animate snowmen!! #ufchat
11:43 pm UF_Chat: Q8c: What about a Cernunnos/Rudolph & Santa?s reindeer mash-up play out? (with or without Santa) #ufchat
11:44 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery DUDE. #ufchat
11:44 pm UF_Chat: Q8d: What about evil Santa/Krampus, have there been any instances in UF (books or TV) that drew on this mythology? #ufchat
11:44 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat A8c Maybe a story about someone who looks after the reindeer during the “off season” #UFchat
11:44 pm MerrieDestefano: RT @Book_Faery: @UF_Chat A8a: Snowmen could be animated by an evil ice witch and try to take over a city, maybe. #ufchat << I love it!
11:44 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat A8d If there are, someone send it to me, quick, lol. #ufchat
11:44 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines YEAHHHH!! How awesome would that be?!?! #ufchat
11:44 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery WRITE IT SO I CAN READ IT, DANG IT. #ufchat
11:45 pm UF_Chat: Phew! Going to skip ahead on questions to get to next challenge faster – ‘k? Don’t freak out at number jump! #ufchat
11:45 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Supernatural did a few! #ufchat
11:45 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines OK IN BOOK 2! XD It’s almost winter then >:D Or maybe book 3 x.o #ufchat
11:45 pm UF_Chat: Q10: Xmas/Yule/midwinter is most superstitious time of the year. What traditions and superstitions can you think of? #ufchat
11:45 pm jamigold: @UF_Chat A8d: An immortal creature who could get into any home? That could be freaky. #ufchat
11:45 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery Have I mentioned WANT? #ufchat
11:46 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra I am just now getting into Supernatural (toddler thing) – looking forward to that! #ufchat
11:46 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat Q8b: Maybe because it’s such a powerful force of nature, both deadly and beautiful. #UFchat
11:46 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines xDD I still have to revise book 1 though D: #ufchat
11:46 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery I knooooow, hurry, hurry!!! #ufchat
11:46 pm UF_Chat: S: Now imagine a whole bunch of these superstitions getting ?broken? with paranormal consequences (as people fear). #ufchat
11:46 pm UF_Chat: Q10a: What kinds of things might go wrong/get interesting? #ufchat
11:46 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery Tell you what, I will bug you to finish revising if you bug me to finish the Werewives novella. :P #ufchat
11:47 pm UF_Chat: Q10b: What if you threw in a vampire/zombie/were/other creature into the mix? What might happen then? #ufchat
11:47 pm jamigold: @MerrieDestefano Yes, that’s a good answer to 8b! @UF_Chat #ufchat
11:47 pm J_GriffinB: Even the film Elf, had some interesting things to say about the power of belief. #ufchat
11:47 pm Jess_Haines: #ufchat A10a *sings* It’s the end of the world as we know it…!
11:47 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines Deal. Let’s start after your bday? :o #ufchat
11:47 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat Favorite one was the Wreath making family, turned out to be old gods. Needed a sacrifice #ufchat
11:47 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery o.o …that’s so soon. LOL #ufchat
11:48 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat What it people’s belief that santa was like the man in Bad Santa actually affected him. #ufchat
11:48 pm UF_Chat: Q11: Why is fire and light (& Yule log equiv.) so important during season & why so connected w spirits/ghosts & sentient shadows? #ufchat
11:48 pm RebeccaTLittle: @leapetra or a vampire delivery guy…only drawback is no daylight deliveries #ufchat
11:48 pm Jess_Haines: #ufchat is reminding me how little I know about Xmas holiday traditions, lol
11:49 pm sandrawickham: ME TOO!!! RT @Jess_Haines: #ufchat is reminding me how little I know about Xmas holiday traditions, lol
11:49 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB That’s intriguing! Wow. The myth-making molds the myth-creature? #Ufchat
11:49 pm Book_Faery: Ditto :/ RT @sandrawickham: ME TOO!!! RT @Jess_Haines: #ufchat is reminding me how little I know about Xmas holiday traditions, lol
11:49 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat A11 I linked the Yule Goat earlier, that is burned on Christmas eve #ufchat
11:49 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat Q11: Winter so long and dark. Light and fire give message of hope, of survival. #UFchat
11:49 pm jamigold: @UF_Chat A10b: That Gremlins movie had problems during Christmas time. Btwn crowds & traditions, there are many possibilities. #ufchat
11:50 pm Jess_Haines: I have so lost track of the questions, lol. :D #ufchat
11:50 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Got lots of fun resources to tweet at end so you can catch up (& write even MORE books… ;) #ufchat
11:50 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Yes, empowering and shaping that power. #ufchat
11:50 pm UF_Chat: @jamigold I completely forgot about Gremlins and I LOVE that movie! LOL Yay! #ufchat
11:50 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat OMG, did you hear I got another 3 book deal? :D LOTS more books coming! #ufchat
11:50 pm wulfshado: Phew…Finally made it in thru tweetchat. Waves ~ ~ ~ ~ #ufchat
11:50 pm Jess_Haines: @wulfshado Welcome aboard! :D #ufchat
11:50 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Superstitions being broken + throw in a vamp/were/zombie/etc ;) #ufchat
11:50 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano And once midwinter was past, you knew if there would be enough food to last through to spring. #ufchat
11:51 pm J_GriffinB: @Jess_Haines Congrats! #ufchat
11:51 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat #ufchat I think it would be awesome if a vampire was Santa and werewolves were the “reindeer”.
11:51 pm sandrawickham: @Jess_Haines Hooray and congrats on the books!! Yippeeee! (where IS that rum and eggnog?) #UFchat
11:51 pm Jess_Haines: @J_GriffinB Thank you! <3 #ufchat
11:51 pm UF_Chat: @wulfshado Hi! Oh you might like to chime in on importance of fire & shadows during Xmas/Yule. :) #ufchat
11:51 pm jamigold: @Jess_Haines Oh cool, congrats! #ufchat
11:52 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines With little imps as Santa vampire’s elves!! #ufchat
11:52 pm Jess_Haines: @sandrawickham Hehe, eggnog sans the eggnog on me! *passes around the bottle o’ rum* #ufchat
11:52 pm MerrieDestefano: @J_GriffinB Yes, food. A powerful motivator! #ufchat
11:52 pm UF_Chat: DRUM ROLL: GIVEAWAY 3: What is special about this year?s Winter Solstice (2010)? 1st to answer + link to source wins! GO! #ufchat
11:52 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Likey! (Oops – sorry Sex & City re-run flashback) #ufchat
11:53 pm UF_Chat: S: Sharing unusual creepy supernatural feeling Xmas images: http://bit.ly/haHCdt & creepy little Xmas card: http://bit.ly/gidIHz #ufchat
11:53 pm leapetra: My theory about Krampus. He kidnaps the kids, then forces them to work in Santa’s workshop. #ufchat
11:53 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra That makes so much sense its scary… *shudder* #Ufchat
11:53 pm wulfshado: @UF_Chat oh protection, warding, appeasement, and invoking good wishes of the spirits. Making surviving the winter safe. #ufchat
11:53 pm jamigold: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/12/18/tuesday-darkest-day-years/ lunar eclipse #ufchat
11:53 pm Jess_Haines: Not playing to win, but it will be the darkest day in 450+ years. :D http://fxn.ws/hMWnUy #ufchat
11:54 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Oh, I almost had it!!! Drat. #UFchat
11:54 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery YES! I will have Eve draw this. #ufchat
11:54 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat DRUM ROLL: GIVEAWAY 3: Yikes, don’t know. Full moon during solstice? #ufchat
11:54 pm J_GriffinB: @leapetra And you discovered this through the note in your rocking horse, “Save us, please…” #ufchat
11:54 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Hehehe #ufchat
11:54 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat First Winter Solstice Meeting With Lunar Eclipse In 456 Years http://bit.ly/ifKxge #UFchat
11:54 pm gina_penn: @UF_Chat The Lunar eclipse? #UFchat
11:54 pm leapetra: @J_GriffinB Love it #ufchat
11:55 pm UF_Chat: Winner of Challenge 3 is: @JamiGold CONGRATS! You?ve won copy of Haunted Holidays antho! DM mailing addy & email at end pls. #ufchat
11:55 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines Yessssss….Man you and I plot very evil things xD #ufchat
11:55 pm Jess_Haines: What a freaky Christmas that would be. Imagine: vamp Santa, werewolf reindeer, imps as Santa’s elves, and a lunar eclipse! #ufchat
11:55 pm J_GriffinB: @leapetra Use it. #ufchat
11:55 pm MerrieDestefano: “It was the darkest day in 450 years. And it was just beginning…” Great story intro. #UFchat
11:55 pm lisaspindler: RT @sandrawickham: @UF_Chat First Winter Solstice Meeting With Lunar Eclipse In 456 Years http://bit.ly/ifKxge #UFchat
11:55 pm UF_Chat: You guys might want to note a Lunar Eclipse on the Winter Solstice = BIG magic opportunity time according to Magik lore! #ufchat
11:56 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery MWAHAHAHAHAHA…..!! *cough* …sorry #ufchat
11:56 pm leapetra: @J_GriffinB Thanks I might #ufchat
11:56 pm Book_Faery: @MerrieDestefano Oooh, I like that start! Lol write itttt :) #ufchat
11:56 pm wulfshado: http://www.adlerplanetarium.org/experience/events Total Lunar Eclipse #ufchat
11:56 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines I agree! (Why is there not more of this stuff written – seriously awesome material here!) #ufchat
11:56 pm Jess_Haines: @j_hussein DUDE. Come join the shennanigans in #ufchat !!!
11:56 pm j_hussein: @Jess_Haines it wouldn’t be weird if the vamp Santa were ERIC! #trueblood #ufchat
11:57 pm MerrieDestefano: @Book_Faery I know. Wouldn’t that be a fun story challenge? Have a group of people write a short story with that intro? #ufchat
11:57 pm UF_Chat: Q11a: Any unusual Xmas images you?ve seen/can describe of link to? (did you see creepy little pics I put up previous tweets?) #ufchat
11:57 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Man, I wish I knew. This is AWESOME story material. #ufchat
11:57 pm Book_Faery: @Jess_Haines Ok you write about crazy ass Royce Santa with imp minions and Chaz as Rudolph & I’ll write Lucy’s zombie snowmen #ufchat #ftw
11:57 pm jamigold: Yay for Google Foo. I’m in #UFChat, if you’re wondering about my last flurry of tweets. This Winter Soltice is also a lunar eclipse. #skeery
11:57 pm UF_Chat: Another skip ahead! #ufchat
11:57 pm UF_Chat: Q12a: Imagine Die Hard (already focused on Xmas) UF style. What paranormal elements would you add to give it a UF twist? #ufchat
11:57 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat You are giving us all great story ideas here! #ufchat #gladIstoppedby
11:57 pm Jess_Haines: @Book_Faery *cracks up* I can just see Royce in a Santa hat now. “What the hell is this thing? Is that *cotton*? *shudder*” XD #ufchat
11:58 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A generally fun time to be a supernatural thing, I should think. Even the feeders on negative vibes would have a heyday #ufchat
11:58 pm Book_Faery: @MerrieDestefano Oh that would be! Or do one of those stories where the fans choose what happens next w multiple authors #ufchat
11:58 pm J_GriffinB: Family dinners and all… #ufchat
11:58 pm jamigold: @MerrieDestefano Oh, *love* that opening line! #ufchat
11:58 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat A12a Alan Rickman as a vampire #ufchat
11:58 pm UF_Chat: Q12b: What about It?s a Wonderful Life? How would you ?UF? this classic if you had to, considering already has fantastic element? #ufchat
11:58 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra …I…. I think….. I think I love you. <3 #ufchat
11:58 pm MerrieDestefano: @JamiGold Thanks! =) #ufchat
11:58 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat A11a How about a fetus christmas tree ornament? http://bit.ly/i2OB4R #UFchat
11:59 pm Jess_Haines: @j_hussein HURRY! They’re giving away books over here, man! BOOKS, I SAY! #ufchat
11:59 pm UF_Chat: Q12c: Think Ghostbusters would have had a different impact if it hadn?t been set around Christmas? How could you ‘kickass-UF’ it? #ufchat
December 19, 2010
j_hussein: @Jess_Haines assume my identity!! LOL #mindmeld #startrek #ufchat
UF_Chat: Q13: What are your favorite Xmas/Yule/holiday customs (traditional or new)? Do you know where they originated? #ufchat
Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat A12 I wish I could think of an awesome answer to this question. o.o #ufchat
leapetra: @UF_Chat A12c Ghostbusters 2 was set around that time, #ufchat
12:01 am Jess_Haines: @j_hussein XD Me and @Book_Faery already won stuff! #ufchat
12:01 am leapetra: @UF_Chat A13 Yule lads, Our kids love the 12 small gifts before Christmas (Iceland) #ufchat
12:01 am UF_Chat: Q14: Father Time is often featured during season too. Why does he have a scythe and why does he often look like death? #ufchat
12:02 am Book_Faery: @UF_Chat Maybe someone would stuff Ghostbusters guns so they would shoot xmas ornaments at ghosts #ufchat
12:02 am leapetra: @UF_Chat A13 We have also make sure to give them one article of clothing to ward off the Yule Cat #ufchat
12:02 am J_GriffinB: A12c Spirits of a druidic circle coming to wreak vengeance for destruction of their sacred grove at the time of the solstice. #ufchat
12:02 am UF_Chat: @sandrawickham Holy… (someone’s been reading my outline notes…)*shudder* #ufchat
12:02 am jamigold: @UF_Chat A14: End of one year, beginning of another. #ufchat
12:02 am J_GriffinB: @J_GriffinB Grove is now a parking lot for Disney outside Paris. #ufchat
12:03 am sandrawickham: @UF_Chat LOL. Someone tweeted that yesterday. Do I win a prize? HA. #UFchat
12:03 am UF_Chat: @leapetra Ooh Yule Cat! Been long time since seen anything on it. You have any linkys handy? #ufchat
12:03 am J_GriffinB: Let the burnings begin. #ufchat
12:03 am UF_Chat: FINAL GIVEAWAY: WRITING CHALLENGE TO WIN A UF THREE-BOOK PACKAGE! Instructions next: #ufchat
12:03 am sandrawickham: @leapetra What is this Yule Cat of which you speak? #UFchat
12:03 am UF_Chat: 1st person to post blog entry OR story b/w 100 & 500 words, based on today?s #UFchat AND tweets link w hashtag b4/by Sun MIDNIGHT PST WINS!
12:03 am UF_Chat: Note: I will be reading each entry to make sure it qualifies before announcing the winner. ? #ufchat
12:04 am sandrawickham: @UF_Chat I’m so excited right now, it’s just silly. #UFchat
12:04 am J_GriffinB: A14: Because he is, like death, infinite, and carries death with him. #ufchat
12:04 am UF_Chat: FINAL BIG Q: What Xmas/Yule/holiday character is most deserving of a starring role in a UF story? Why? #ufchat
12:04 am Book_Faery: #ufchat QUICK @Jess_Haines! ZOMBIE SNOWMEN & SANTA ROYCE GOO
12:04 am wulfshado: @UF_Chat With Santa there’s also the element of Gwyn ap Nudd and his red eared dogs looking for & collecting souls. #ufchat
12:04 am leapetra: Yule Cat http://simnet.is/gardarj/yule11.htm #ufchat
12:04 am jamigold: @UF_Chat A14: As for the scythe, maybe it’s related to end of one year’s harvest, clearing the way for next year. #ufchat
12:06 am UF_Chat: BTW – in case missed it lookee @ books yet to win: http://twitpic.com/3h4nxo HolidaysAreHell, NakedCity & 1 more WolfsbaneMistletoe #ufchat
12:06 am J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A15/BIG Qeustion: The union shop steward of Santa’s elves. He’s underpaid, overworked, and out to get some. #ufchat
12:06 am sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Big A – I think we may have decided on Krampus. Just good evil fun. #UFchat
12:06 am UF_Chat: @Book_Faery Why AREN’T there more zombie snowmen? Or golem snowmen? I mean isn’t kind of obvious?? #ufchat
12:07 am J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Cause all you must do is turn on the heat to off the snowmen. #ufchat
12:07 am UF_Chat: That?s a wrap for #UFchat this year! Good luck to writers taking on 3-book prize challenge! #ufchat
12:07 am jamigold: @UF_Chat FinalA: I could see a fat, old Santa being kickass and surprising everyone. #ufchat
12:07 am Book_Faery: @UF_Chat Seriously. Those carrot noses are dangerous. Don’t worry tho, I got the zombie snowmen covered in WIP #2! #ufchat
12:07 am UF_Chat: We?re taking a break over the public holidays & return in 2011 w many UF authors booked to Q&A! #ufchat
12:07 am MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat FINAL BIG Q: Not exactly common character, but a ragged beggar would make great UF star: contrast pathos with holiday. #UFchat
12:07 am UF_Chat: Got a topic you want to chat about? Let me know! (@inkgypsy) I?ll add it to the list & maybe even bump up the chat-date for it. ? #ufchat
12:07 am leapetra: Mrs. Claus needs some stories written about her. Think of that poor woman! #ufchat
12:08 am J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat According to Mythbusters, 5 hours in 65 degrees will do an unclothed one in. #ufchat
12:08 am UF_Chat: Some additional resources on seasonal supernatural & superstitions next: #ufchat
12:08 am wulfshado: lol I so suck at chat. #ufchat
12:08 am UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds: An Urban Fantasy Holiday in 12 Days http://bit.ly/5S4FQD #ufchat
12:08 am MerrieDestefano: @wulfshado “Gwyn ap Nudd and his red eared dogs looking for & collecting souls.” Oooh, creepy! #ufchat
12:08 am UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB Good to know.. (LOVE Mythbusters!) #ufchat
12:08 am TawnyWeber: RT @sandrawickham: @UF_Chat First Winter Solstice Meeting With Lunar Eclipse In 456 Years http://bit.ly/ifKxge #UFchat
12:08 am UF_Chat: Primer #2 for @UFchat early birds: Season of Superstition http://bit.ly/icr8Nz #ufchat
12:08 am Book_Faery: Btw #ufchat, Twitter isn’t letting @Jess_Haines respond anymore. She wanted to apologize for not being able to stick around
12:08 am leapetra: @MerrieDestefano Like the little match girl #ufchat
12:09 am UF_Chat: Christmas Superstitions (with link to Yule Log traditions page) http://bit.ly/f0RBKH #ufchat
12:09 am jamigold: @Jess_Haines @Book_Faery I’m *so* following you two now. Loved your ideas. #ufchat
12:09 am wulfshado: @MerrieDestefano Right? Gives Rudolf’s nose a new meaning. Search light for lost souls….lol #ufchat
12:10 am MerrieDestefano: @leapetra Oh, she’s one of my faves! The Little Match Girl. Makes me want to cry! #UFchat
12:10 am UF_Chat: @Book_Faery Thank you! Guess she strained her API.. (I do that too) #UFchat (I have overflow account just in case now)
12:10 am UF_Chat: RT @MerrieDestefano: @wulfshado “Gwyn ap Nudd and his red eared dogs looking for & collecting souls.” Oooh, creepy! #ufchat
12:10 am UF_Chat: Holiday Wars (online serial comic in which Easter Bunny isn?t so fluffy & Santa?s on the run) http://bit.ly/92yASG #ufchat
12:10 am UF_Chat: Krampus (evil or anti-Santa) http://bit.ly/sKIsI ; http://bit.ly/fR7U62 ; http://bit.ly/2js0sQ #ufchat
12:10 am sandrawickham: Glad I found you guys! I look forward to 2011 chats. :) RT @UF_Chat: That?s a wrap for #UFchat this year! #ufchat
12:11 am wulfshado: @Book_Faery @Jess_Haines Yeah, I had a helluva time getting in and twitter’s being a poop too. Tweetchat has a huge lag. #ufchat
12:11 am Zoe_E_W: @leapetra They did that Angela Lansbury musical about Mrs. Claus. It was pretty dull, but not awful. #ufchat
12:11 am UF_Chat: Building a Better Carol (League of Reluctant Adults – UF authors ‘collective’): http://bit.ly/fiBX41 #ufchat
12:11 am J_GriffinB: Some dark music to listen to whilst writing: http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/the-forest-children/id400172237 #ufchat
12:11 am UF_Chat: What are your Yule traditions? (Absolute Write Water Cooler): http://bit.ly/gznMnT #ufchat
12:11 am UF_Chat: Celebrating Winter Solstice (Yule) http://bit.ly/eeF6RB #ufchat
12:12 am UF_Chat: Winter Festivals Around the World http://bit.ly/8YcXfj #ufchat
12:12 am J_GriffinB: The Forest Children, good mood music for writing those dark scenes: Very dark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ksORX4aEG8 #ufchat
12:12 am Book_Faery: @JamiGold Hehe, thanks! Following you back :D #ufchat
12:12 am UF_Chat: Enormous THX to @Shadowflame1974 who has been instrumental in helping keep #UFchat happening during my weeks of medical emergencies! #ufchat
12:12 am UF_Chat: @Shadowflame1974 is now official #UFchat co-mod/assist! *applause & cheers* Thanks Shadow & welcome to the team. :) #ufchat
12:13 am Book_Faery: @UF_Chat Yeah it’s happened to me too. Always happens when you’ve got a witty Tweet too lol #ufchat
12:13 am leapetra: Did anyone else in chat, get slammed with Christmas spam during chat. #ufchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: #UFchat transcript available on the #UFchat blog in 48hrs-ish, allowing for late comments & entries to GIVEAWAY. Just use hashtag. ? #ufchat
12:13 am Book_Faery: @wulfshado Ahh I use TweetDeck; I didn’t have any issues following the convo & no lag either :) #ufchat
12:13 am shadowflame1974: thanks! #UFchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: Cut-off for entries for 3 book draw = MIDNIGHT PST Dec 19th! (end of wk/end) Remember tweet post WITH hashtag. Merry blog/writing! #ufchat
12:14 am UF_Chat: Cut-off for entries for 3 book draw = MIDNIGHT PST Dec 19th! (end weekend) Remember tweet post WITH hashtag. Merry blog/writing! #ufchat
12:14 am Book_Faery: RT @UF_Chat: Cut-off for entries for 3 book draw = MIDNIGHT PST Dec 19th! (end weekend) Remember tweet post WITH hashtag. Merry blog/writing! #ufchat
12:14 am UF_Chat: We?ll be announcing winner of the multi-book prize on Twitter with the hashtag on Monday (sometime after 12am?) ? #ufchat
12:15 am J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat @Shadowflame1974 Thanks to you both! And I will be shouting that when I Afterlife from @MerrieDeStefano arrives! #ufchat
12:15 am jamigold: @UF_Chat Congrats @Shadowflame1974 on your co-mod status. Following you now too. #ufchat
12:17 am UF_Chat: ATTENTION today’s winners: @Jess_Haines, @Book_Faery & @JamiGold Pls DM @InkGypsy your mailing addy & email so I can send books! #ufchat
12:17 am J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano I’m sure it will! #ufchat
12:18 am UF_Chat: Wishing you tasty brains in the coming year. Keep UF fire burning & we will too. *@UF_chat blows on embers* See you Jan 8th, 2011! #ufchat
12:19 am J_GriffinB: Back to the WIP, which doesn’t involve Fantasy, but is most decidedly Urban. #ufchat
12:30 am UF_Chat: 3 books going to 3 winners already and 3 more books to be won still! UF writing challenge open to all – closes MIDNIGHT SUN 19th! #UFchat
12:30 am inkgypsy: 3 books going to 3 winners already and 3 more books to be won still! UF writing challenge open to all – closes MIDNIGHT SUN 19th! #UFchat
12:32 am gtsportman4: RT @UF_Chat: Cut-off for entries for 3 book draw = MIDNIGHT PST Dec 19th! (end weekend) Remember tweet post WITH hashtag. Merry blog/writing! #ufchat
12:33 am UF_Chat: Late/working/shopping #UFchat folk: you are eligible to enter last challenge with 3 UF book pack to WIN! Check #UFchat for deets or @ me. :)
12:33 am inkgypsy: Late/working/shopping #UFchat folk: you are eligible to enter last challenge with 3 UF book pack to WIN! Check #UFchat for deets or @ me. :)
12:33 am J_GriffinB: RT @UF_Chat: 3 more books to be won still! UF writing challenge open to all – closes MIDNIGHT SUN 19th! #ufchat
12:38 am crookedfang: @inkgypsy Good stuff there. You ask all the right questions. #UFchat
12:42 am sandrawickham: I blogged about today’s #UFchat to win books. What? FREE books. Awesome Xmas legends I’d never heard about: http://bit.ly/fd6uXF@UF_Chat
12:43 am inkgypsy: @sandrawickham Can you retweet link ? Got mashed & hard to click on (I got it but so can RT. :) #UFchat
12:45 am sandrawickham: I blogged about today’s #UFchat to win books. What? FREE books. Awesome Xmas legends I’d never heard about: http://bit.ly/6DVyBA @inkgypsy
12:48 am UF_Chat: DRUM ROLL.. The WINNER for the UF 3-book pack is IN (already!) The prize: HolidaysAreHell, NakedCity & Wolfsbane&Mistletoe anthos… #UFchat
12:48 am inkgypsy: DRUM ROLL.. The WINNER for the UF 3-book pack is IN (already!) The prize: HolidaysAreHell, NakedCity & Wolfsbane&Mistletoe anthos… #UFchat
12:51 am UF_Chat: And the winner is: @sandrawickham!! CONGRATULATIONS & merry Yule-Xmas to you! Your 3 books will be shipped on Monday DEC 20th ENJOY! #UFchat
12:51 am inkgypsy: And the winner is: @sandrawickham!! CONGRATULATIONS & merry Yule-Xmas to you! Your 3 books will be shipped on Monday DEC 20th ENJOY! #UFchat
12:51 am UF_Chat: RT @sandrawickham: I blogged about today’s #UFchat to win books. What? FREE books. Awesome Xmas legends I’d never heard about: http://bit.ly/6DVyBA @inkgypsy
12:51 am inkgypsy: RT @sandrawickham: I blogged about today’s #UFchat to win books. What? FREE books. Awesome Xmas legends I’d never heard about: http://bit.ly/6DVyBA @inkgypsy
12:52 am sandrawickham: RT @UF_Chat: And the winner is: @sandrawickham!! CONGRATULATIONS & merry Yule-Xmas to you! Your 3 books will be shipped on Monday DEC 20th ENJOY! #UFchat
12:53 am wulfshado: RT @sandrawickham: I blogged about today’s #UFchat to win books. What? FREE books. Awesome Xmas legends I’d never heard about: http://bit.ly/6DVyBA @inkgypsy
12:53 am shadowflame1974: @sandrawickham Congratulations! and yes liked your post! #UFchat
12:53 am wulfshado: RT @UF_Chat: And the winner is: @sandrawickham!! CONGRATULATIONS & merry Yule-Xmas to you! Your 3 books will be shipped on Monday DEC 20th ENJOY! #UFchat
12:53 am sandrawickham: @UF_Chat SQUUUEEEEEEEE!!! OMG>OMG>OMG. Ahem. I mean, thank you and a merry Yule-Xmas to you! *runs off to do a victory lap* #UFchat
12:55 am wulfshado: RT @UF_Chat: ATTENTION today’s winners: @Jess_Haines, @Book_Faery & @JamiGold Pls DM @InkGypsy your mailing addy & email so I can send books! #ufchat
12:55 am inkgypsy: @sandrawickham LOL! Um.. before you leave – pls DM me your posting addy & email so I can ship you your prize on Monday! #UFchat
12:55 am shadowflame1974: Great chat today everyone. Thanks for coming and have a very Merry Holiday season. #UFchat
12:56 am inkgypsy: RT @shadowflame1974: Great chat today everyone. Thanks for coming and have a very Merry Holiday season. #UFchat
12:57 am inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 Wow – did you see we had a speed blogger?! The 3 book winner is in already! *O.o* #UFchat
1:04 am sandrawickham: Now I’m totally pumped from jumping, running and squeeing around the house over my #UFchat free books, it’s time to write!
1:56 am Jess_Haines: @Marty_DarkWyrm Hehe, thank you! :) Oh, man, I’m cracking up. I won ZOMBIE CAROLS on #ufchat today! :D
2:21 am shadowflame1974: @eruditeogre we talked about that on the #UFchat today. http://tweetchat.com/room/ufchat
4:38 am lisaspindler: RT @sandrawickham @UF_Chat First Winter Solstice Meeting With Lunar Eclipse In 456 Years http://bit.ly/ifKxge #UFchat
9:08 am AnassaRh: Preparing to chime in on #ufchat because I was working when it was live.
9:09 am AnassaRh: A1: Ghosts at Xmas? Changing of the year (see Samhain). Long nights. #ufchat
9:12 am AnassaRh: A1a: Depending on how you want to look at them, Saint Nicholas and Das Christkind are spirits. #ufchat
9:12 am AnassaRh: I can think of other paranormal/magic entities, but I’ll wait on those because I imagine there’s already a question about them. ;-) #ufchat
9:16 am AnassaRh: Q1b: First connection to mind is light @ end of tunnel, light of heaven and Holy Ghost. #ufchat
9:16 am AnassaRh: And I think depending on belief, ghosts are either repelled by light or drawn to it. #ufchat
9:17 am AnassaRh: I would suspect that with modern Christmas as family gathering, ghosts would be drawn to light. Don’t know if always the way, though.#ufchat
9:20 am AnassaRh: Q1c Oh, certainly. We like Christmas ghosts! They’re the good spirits. The ones at Halloween are evil. #ufchat
9:21 am AnassaRh: Don’t know enough about history of the traditions to give a deeper explanation. #ufchat
9:26 am AnassaRh: A2: Appeals for vamps: Crowds, long nights, lots of culture for Those Vampires, tendency of people to drink lots of alcohol. #ufchat
9:27 am AnassaRh: Vampire repellent? Lots of light (good for shadows, though). Garlic mashed potatoes, though they’re not unique to Christmas. #ufchat
9:28 am AnassaRh: Someone who’s read Hogfather! Yay! RT @leapetra: @UF_Chat Death stepped in once! he he #ufchat
9:36 am AnassaRh: Q2a: Meat dinners and family gatherings would appeal to werewolves. They’d have to be careful of silverware, though. #ufchat
9:47 am AnassaRh: A4: Household spirits would likely be more active at Xmas. Also, Iceland has a tradition of trolls http://bit.ly/68ps0h. #ufchat
9:50 am AnassaRh: The Danes have something similar with Nisse elves, who play pranks throughout the season. Other Europeans have Advent spirits too. #ufchat
9:50 am AnassaRh: And let’s not forget Krampus. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krampus #ufchat
10:05 am AnassaRh: RT @jamigold: @UF_Chat A4b: Would all the shiny lights and decorations distract/confuse dragons or those into acquisitions? #ufchat
10:09 am AnassaRh: A4b: Mermaids have already been done, so ? demons wouldn’t celebrate Xmas (except to create Scrooges), but angels DEF would. #ufchat
10:10 am AnassaRh: Djinn wouldn’t celebrate Christmas either, and I doubt the Asian spirits would get into things?though they have their own festivals. #ufchat
10:11 am AnassaRh: A5: Personally, I think Moore used ‘elf’ b/c of rhyme scheme. Don’t know when ‘workshop elves’ appeared, so maybe connection there? #ufchat
10:12 am AnassaRh: A6: Pacemaker or electric shock prod? Surgery thread? Frankenstein’s location? An undead puppy? #ufchat
10:13 am AnassaRh: A6a: It would be a bad time for Jekyll, at least. Hyde would wreck Xmas and Jekyll would have to clean up the mess. #ufchat
10:14 am AnassaRh: And of course, Hyde would be more dominant, given the longer nights. #ufchat
10:16 am AnassaRh: A7: Books. Pen, paper, computer ink. Books. Paranormal merch (tees, dolls, etc.) Books. #ufchat
10:17 am AnassaRh: A7a: The only discovery this year was iCal. Can enter every event, with time duration and colors, to see who’s where, when. #ufchat
10:19 am AnassaRh: Yes!Such a great environment! RT@JamiGold: Twitter! I love Twitter. It makes getting connected to writer community so much easier. #ufchat
10:20 am AnassaRh: A7b: I did up my wishlist a MONTH ago, due to pleading. How’m I supposed to remember? Definitely books, though. #ufchat
10:21 am AnassaRh: I know part of wishlist reads: “Any good UF I haven’t already read (see link for what I’ve read)”. Think I asked for Mike Carey too. #ufchat
10:23 am AnassaRh: A7c: Again, books! Would also love an agent and deal this year. (Ha.) #ufchat
10:25 am AnassaRh: A8: Angels, as somebody mentioned. Also elves, to an extent, and bewitched objects (Frosty, the Nutcracker). #ufchat
10:26 am AnassaRh: @JamiGold Re: Jack Frost in UF – Christopher Golden wrote a series with him in it. http://bit.ly/gUICTg #ufchat
10:28 am AnassaRh: Susan Cooper did Herne Hunter in The Dark is Rising. Def. more plots available for him. #ufchat
10:31 am AnassaRh: A8b: Snow’s a pretty prevalent part of Northern Hemisphere life. Deadly too, and when the wind howls? #ufchat
10:33 am AnassaRh: A8d: Supernatural made a nod to Krampus in their Xmas episode. Disappointed they didn’t follow through with it. #ufchat
10:34 am AnassaRh: Would really like to see more Krampus. Such potential! Santa vs. Krampus antagonism, even. #ufchat
10:37 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Did you ever see that clip of Mexican Santa shooting Devil in the a-er-butt? (Bad Santa maybe?) #UFchat
10:37 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Nope. If it was in Bad Santa, I stayed away from that movie. Didn’t look like my Thing. #ufchat
10:38 am jolantru: Reading #ufchat now.
10:38 am AnassaRh: A10: Only seasonal tradition (non-religious, anyway) I can think of is the almond-in-rice-pudding one. It’s a Dane thing? 1/2 #ufchat
10:39 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh I’ve never seen it but seen it on a lot of people’s fave lists this year for some reason. May have to lookee. #UFchat
10:39 am AnassaRh: Rice pudding = rice + whipped cream + ground almond + cherry sauce. Hide a whole almond. Whoever gets it, gets prize. #ufchat
10:41 am AnassaRh: Actually, that reminds me of the bean tradition and Lord of Misrule, which I don’t know much about. #ufchat
10:41 am inkgypsy: Snowflake kites!! Oh. It’s a Starbucks ad. Oh well – still very pretty & great story idea! #UFchat
10:44 am jolantru: I want to see stories celebrating winter traditions. #ufchat
10:45 am inkgypsy: Ditto – multicultural – such untapped richness. RT @jolantru: I want to see stories celebrating winter traditions. #ufchat
10:47 am AnassaRh: Turns them into elves? RT @leapetra: My theory about Krampus. He kidnaps the kids, then forces them to work in Santa’s workshop. #ufchat
10:47 am AnassaRh: A11: All my answers for Xmas/light connections have been given already. ^^ #ufchat
10:49 am inkgypsy: There’s an apocalypse bot?? Now there’s an urban fantasy idea… #UFchat
10:51 am AnassaRh: A13: Advent calendars, definitely. Family also does the rice pudding thing, Nisse elf decorations around the house, Xmas on the 24th #ufchat
10:51 am AnassaRh: German-/Danish-Canadian household, obviously. #ufchat
10:52 am AnassaRh: We also do Christmas baking, which seems to be a fairly standard practice. :) Lebkuchen and Pfeffernoder are our nods to heritage. #ufchat
10:53 am jolantru: For Chinese, Winter solstice is Dong zhi. Tang yuan! #ufchat
10:53 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh What kind of Advent calendar? Used to have one where eg front of stable. Open doors to reveal birth sc Now just chocolate #UFchat
10:54 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Growing up, we had the cardboard chocolate ones. Now Mom sends me a cloth one stuffed with dollar store toys. #ufchat
10:54 am inkgypsy: @jolantru Perhaps silly question but you have lots of Dong zhi ghosts? Snow creations? (I know you’re Singa now so no snow) #UFchat
10:54 am jolantru: In Singapore, Yule is pretty much multicultural. Advent calendars and wreaths. #ufchat
10:56 am jolantru: @inkgypsy Not sure about ghosts and spirits. Hmm. :) #ufchat
10:56 am AveryOslo: RT @inkgypsy: There’s an apocalypse bot?? Now there’s an urban fantasy idea… #UFchat
10:56 am FutureNostalgic: RT @AveryOslo: RT @inkgypsy: There’s an apocalypse bot?? Now there’s an urban fantasy idea… #UFchat
10:58 am AnassaRh: Final Answer: My vote’s on Krampus too, followed by Hearne, followed by Evil Frosty for the humor value. #ufchat
10:59 am AnassaRh: And done with #ufchat! Should probably go to bed now. Heh.
6:19 pm sandrawickham: @shadowflame1974 @J_GriffinB @Jess_Haines @JannetteJohnson Thanks for the congrats on the #UFchat books giveaway! (I was determined! LOL)
6:46 pm wulfshado: RT @inkgypsy: There’s an apocalypse bot?? Now there’s an urban fantasy idea… #UFchat
8:47 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano Just got your book, Afterlife. Yeah, the one I won at #UFChat last week! I’ll be digging in next week!
December 20, 2010
1:27 am MerrieDestefano: Cool! RT @J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano Just got your book, Afterlife. Yeah, the one I won at #UFChat last week!
3:17 am jamigold: @AnassaRh Thanks! I’ll check out that link! #ufchat
December 21, 2010
AnassaRh: RT @AnassaRh: On my blog: Christmas Superstitions and Plot Bunnies http://bit.ly/gtBg3V #ufchat #writing #christmas
2:30 am AnassaRh: In which I release some Christmas plot bunnies to the wild: http://bit.ly/gtBg3V #ufchat #writing #christmas
2:35 am jolantru: RT @AnassaRh: In which I release some Christmas plot bunnies to the wild: http://bit.ly/gtBg3V #ufchat #writing #christmas
4:18 pm Queryaddict: Check out Twas the night before Christmas UF style http://shannonmayer.blogspot.com #ufchat, #amwriting, #amediting
December 22, 2010
6:13 am UF_Chat: At long last the #UFchat Q&A transcript w @MerrieDestefano on life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF is UP! Apologies re delay. http://bit.ly/eoHVXe
6:13 am inkgypsy: At long last the #UFchat Q&A transcript w @MerrieDestefano on life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF is UP! Apologies re delay. http://bit.ly/eoHVXe
6:14 am Jinxie_G: RT @UF_Chat: At long last the #UFchat Q&A transcript w @MerrieDestefano on life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF is UP! Apologies re delay. http://bit.ly/eoHVXe
6:15 am jolantru: RT @UF_Chat: At long last the #UFchat Q&A transcript w @MerrieDestefano on life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF is UP! Apologies re delay. http://bit.ly/eoHVXe
6:19 am inkgypsy: Santa Brains Pleez – Been Good (sort of) – Zazzle zombie Xmas card http://bit.ly/f8XpPk #UFchat
6:21 am inkgypsy: Papercraft Zombie Christmas Nativity Set (consider yourself warned) http://bit.ly/hMLZJv #UFchat
6:24 am MorrigansWitch: @ArcherGirl13 @ChrissyShank @DanielShank Zombie Christmas Nativity Set (consider yourself warned) http://bit.ly/hMLZJv #UFchat
6:29 am AlanBaxter: RT @inkgypsy: Papercraft Zombie Christmas Nativity Set (consider yourself warned) http://bit.ly/hMLZJv #UFchat
6:33 am inkgypsy: Zombies and Christmas – A holiday TRend? http://bit.ly/fvWOnl #UFchat (via @QQwill)’s awesome blog!
6:33 am Jinxie_G: RT @inkgypsy: Zombies and Christmas – A holiday TRend? http://bit.ly/fvWOnl #UFchat (via @QQwill)’s awesome blog!
6:34 am jolantru: RT @inkgypsy: Zombies and Christmas – A holiday TRend? http://bit.ly/fvWOnl #UFchat (via @QQwill)’s awesome blog!
6:34 am redbakersen: Awesome! RT @AlanBaxter: RT @inkgypsy: Papercraft Zombie Christmas Nativity Set (consider yourself warned) http://bit.ly/hMLZJv #UFchat
6:35 am Pyre666: RT @inkgypsy: Papercraft Zombie Christmas Nativity Set (consider yourself warned) http://bit.ly/hMLZJv #UFchat
6:38 am inkgypsy: Xmas teaser urban fantasy reading! Charlaine Harris and Kim Harrison excerpts via @VampBookClub http://bit.ly/fFTBXA #UFchat
6:40 am inkgypsy: RT @Jinxie_G Have you seen The Zombie Survival Crew http://bit.ly/hIea8t yet? =D #UFchat
6:43 am StaciaKane: RT @inkgypsy: Xmas teaser urban fantasy reading! Charlaine Harris and Kim Harrison excerpts via @VampBookClub http://bit.ly/fFTBXA #UFchat
7:09 am jolantru: RT @inkgypsy: Xmas teaser urban fantasy reading! Charlaine Harris and Kim Harrison excerpts via @VampBookClub http://bit.ly/fFTBXA #UFchat
8:03 am MerrieDestefano: RT @inkgypsy: At long last the #UFchat Q&A transcript w @MerrieDestefano on life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF is UP! Apologies re delay. http://bit.ly/eoHVXe
1:17 pm dianagill: RT @inkgypsy: At long last the #UFchat Q&A transcript w @MerrieDestefano on life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF is UP! Apologies re delay. http://bit.ly/eoHVXe
6:08 pm AnassaRh: Nice! #ufchat RT @QQwill: LOL RT @CarolynCrane: The 13 WORST holiday gifts to get for werewolves. http://tinyurl.com/2g669yv
7:10 pm LunaLindsey: @inkgypsy Zombies and Christmas, don’t forget the Plants vs. Zombies Holiday Wallpaper: http://bit.ly/fhwoLh #UFchat
7:11 pm SteampunkShoppe: RT @inkgypsy: Papercraft Zombie Christmas Nativity Set (consider yourself warned) http://bit.ly/hMLZJv #UFchat
December 23, 2010
4:44 am UF_Chat: Right on topic of last Sat’s #ufchat – xlnt! RT @CarolynCrane The 13 WORST holiday gifts to get for werewolves. http://tinyurl.com/2g669yv
4:44 am inkgypsy: Right on topic of last Sat’s #ufchat – xlnt! RT @CarolynCrane The 13 WORST holiday gifts to get for werewolves. http://tinyurl.com/2g669yv
4:49 am jolantru: RT @UF_Chat: Right on topic of last Sat’s #ufchat – xlnt! RT @CarolynCrane The 13 WORST holiday gifts to get for werewolves. http://tinyurl.com/2g669yv
5:02 am jolantru: Can’t wait for 2011. My UF book will be out . #ufchat
5:15 am inkgypsy: Very xcited + can’t wait to read Wolf At The Door! http://bit.ly/grs5FJ RT @jolantru: Can’t wait for 2011. My UF book will be out . #ufchat
5:21 am inkgypsy: #UFchat folk will find this useful.. :) RT @sara_UFblog: Best Books of 2010 http://bit.ly/fHQR36 @Jennifer_Estep is on the list twice!\
5:21 am inkgypsy: RT @MANtastic_fic: Alleys & Doorways: Stories of Queer Urban Fantasy Anthology – http://bit.ly/ieerPd #UFchat
5:40 am jolantru: RT @inkgypsy: RT @MANtastic_fic: Alleys & Doorways: Stories of Queer Urban Fantasy Anthology – http://bit.ly/ieerPd #UFchat
5:43 am jaymgates: RT @inkgypsy: RT @MANtastic_fic: Alleys & Doorways: Stories of Queer Urban Fantasy Anthology – http://bit.ly/ieerPd #UFchat
5:44 am charlesatan: RT @inkgypsy: RT @MANtastic_fic: Alleys & Doorways: Stories of Queer Urban Fantasy Anthology – http://bit.ly/ieerPd #UFchat
5:56 am rosefox: Thanks for recommending Alleys & Doorways, @inkgypsy and @MANtastic_fic! http://ow.ly/3txj2 I’m really proud of my story in it. #UFchat
6:25 am jolantru: RT @inkgypsy: Very xcited + can’t wait to read Wolf At The Door! http://bit.ly/grs5FJ RT @jolantru: Can’t wait for 2011. My UF book will be out . #ufchat
6:35 am Jess_Haines: #UFChat I’m intrigued by that cover! RT @inkgypsy Wolf At The Door http://bit.ly/grs5FJ @jolantru: Can’t wait 2011. My UF book will be out
6:51 am inkgypsy: Buffy fans! Xmas Day one channel is running back-to-back Buffy Xmas eps!! Wish could enjoy the fest! (Sorry can’t remember channel) #UFchat
6:52 am thedaisyharris: Whee! RT @inkgypsy: Buffy fans! Xmas Day one channel is running back-to-back Buffy Xmas eps!! (Sorry can’t remember channel) #UFchat
7:36 am Boopetta: RT @inkgypsy: Papercraft Zombie Christmas Nativity Set (consider yourself warned) http://bit.ly/hMLZJv #UFchat
2:40 pm harleyquinn0887: RT @UF_Chat: Right on topic of last Sat’s #ufchat – xlnt! RT @CarolynCrane The 13 WORST holiday gifts to get for werewolves. http://tinyurl.com/2g669yv
7:46 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano Started Afterlife last night. Most impressed, and thanks for the kind signing! #UFChat
8:53 pm AnassaRh: Interesting fact from Dad just now: “St. Nikolas and Krampus and Dracula all come from basically the same area.” #ufchat
8:59 pm MerrieDestefano: So glad you like the book! RT @J_GriffinB Started Afterlife last night. Most impressed, and thanks for the kind signing! #UFChat
9:00 pm LunaLindsey: New post in Indie Urban Fantasy blog: The Urban Myth of Santa Claus. http://bit.ly/i3CKTr #ufchat #urbanfantasy #fairies #santa
December 24, 2010
6:48 pm Book_Faery: Happy holidays everyone @ #ufchat :)
December 25, 2010
10:20 pm inkgypsy: Merry Christmas-Yule-Holiday everyone! Especially my #UFchat folk. May all your bells be jingled in the best way.

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END OF TRANSCRIPT FOR DECEMBER 18th, 2010

That’s our final chat for 2010! We’re currently on a short break over the Christmas/New Year holiday period and return with a different type of author Q&A…

JANUARY 8th, 2011: We’re having a Q&A with Dr Rebecca Housel, editor of “True Blood & Philosophy: We Wanna Think Bad Things With You” (from The Blackwell Philosophy and Pop Culture Series) on social commentary and the Urban Fantasy genre!

To give you an idea of the topics covered in the book (an as a launching pad for your own thoughts and questions) here are a few of the chapter titles of “True Blood & Philosophy”:

To Turn or Not to Turn: The Ethics of Making Vampires

Let the Bon Temps Roll: Sacrifices, Scapegoats, and Good Times

Coming Out of the Coffin and Coming Out of the Closet

Stay tuned to @UF_Chat on Twitter for countdowns, updates, pre-chat primers, links to posts, contests and more!

Hope your holidays are wonderful and your New Year kicks all the others to the back row. :) See you in 2011!

Gypsy (@inkgypsy)

Transcript for December 11, 2010: Life, Death & AFTERLIFE – Q&A with Merrie Destefano

This week’s TOPIC: Life, Death & Afterlife in UF plus a Q&A with guest author Merrie Destefano discussing her UF debut, AFTERLIFE!

Merrie is the author of the futuristic UF novel “Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles” and has co-authored the Walter Foster book “How to Draw Zombies” – obviously she’s no stranger to the undead..! ;)

Official UFchat questions in YELLOW, other questions to guest author are in ORANGE and guest author replies to both participants & moderator are in RED for easier reading.

Resources/ topic-related links are in BLUE.

We also had a giveaway – a signed copy of AFTERLIFE to one lucky participant who asked Merrie a question, given a number and was chosen by random.org. The winner was: @J_GriffinB!

12:12 am inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 Going to be great #UFchat with @MerrieDestefano Q&A on AFTERLIFE & giveaway! Tell people to ask questions if want to enter!
12:15 am shadowflame1974: Going to be great #UFchat with @MerrieDestefano Q&A on AFTERLIFE & giveaway! Tell people to ask questions if want to enter!
12:21 am MerrieDestefano: Thanks! Looking forward to it! << RT @inkgypsy @shadowflame1974: Q&A on AFTERLIFE & giveaway! << #UFchat Sat., 3 p.m. PST
12:51 am inkgypsy: Transformer owl! http://youtu.be/gFwgblszf6s The Count Drac version is weirdly-amazing. No wonder vampires & owls are linked! #UFchat
12:56 am Laura_Bickle: RT @inkgypsy: Transformer owl! http://youtu.be/gFwgblszf6s The Count Drac version is weirdly-amazing. No wonder vampires & owls are linked! #UFchat
1:33 am LunaLindsey: RT @inkgypsy: Transformer owl! http://youtu.be/gFwgblszf6s The Count Drac version is weirdly-amazing. No wonder vampires & owls are linked! #UFchat
5:25 am UF_Chat: Reminder to all mid-week night creatures Sat #UFchat has guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano + signed copy of AFTERLIFE to win during chat!
5:25 am inkgypsy: Reminder to all mid-week night creatures Sat #UFchat has guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano + signed copy of AFTERLIFE to win during chat!
5:39 am Daylilie222: RT @inkgypsy: Reminder to all mid-week night creatures Sat #UFchat has guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano + signed copy of AFTERLIFE to win during chat!
5:50 am J_GriffinB: @gina_penn @saramcclung @cvaldezmiller @Karen_Hooper Don’t forget #UFchat this Saturday, 6PM EST. @inkgypsy is the hostess with the mostest
5:51 am inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB Thanks! You rock. ;) It’s going to be a fun #UFchat – plus whomever asks @MerrieDestefano a question gets entered to win!
5:55 am MerrieDestefano: @inkgypsy Thanks for all the #UFchat promos! *hugs*
6:11 am inkgypsy: @MerrieDestefano Just sent you Sats #UFchat schedule for you to look over. :) Notes welcome. :)
8:39 am UF_Chat: Transcript for Dec 4 #UFchat is up! http://bit.ly/hWBNjq Human Factor in UF Mcs ? from mundane to magical hybrid: how human are they really?
8:39 am inkgypsy: Transcript for Dec 4 #UFchat is up! http://bit.ly/hWBNjq Human Factor in UF Mcs ? from mundane to magical hybrid: how human are they really?
9:11 am UF_Chat: Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in AFTERLIFE-thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt. world where we ALL get 9 lives. #UFchat THIS Sat @3pmPST!
9:11 am inkgypsy: Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in AFTERLIFE-thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt. world where we ALL get 9 lives. #UFchat THIS Sat @3pmPST!
6:08 pm shadowflame1974: #UFchat tomorrow with special guest @MerrieDestefano! Stop by, ask a question and win a book! 5 p.m. CST.
6:15 pm MerrieDestefano: RT @shadowflame1974: #UFchat tomorrow with special guest @MerrieDestefano! Stop by, ask a question and win a book! 5 p.m. CST.
7:01 pm MerrieDestefano: Questions about AFTERLIFE? Join me and @InkGyspy on #UFchat on Saturday, 3 p.m. EST.
8:17 pm Book_Faery: RT @MerrieDestefano: Questions about AFTERLIFE? Join me and @InkGyspy on #UFchat on Saturday, 3 p.m. EST.
8:20 pm inkgypsy: RT @UF_Chat: Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in AFTERLIFE-thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt. world where we ALL get 9 lives. #UFchat THIS Sat @3pmPST!
8:20 pm Jinxie_G: RT @UF_Chat: Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in AFTERLIFE-thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt. world where we ALL get 9 lives. #UFchat THIS Sat @3pmPST!
8:28 pm shadowflame1974: RT @UF_Chat: Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in AFTERLIFE-thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt. world where we ALL get 9 lives. #UFchat THIS Sat @3pmPST!
8:53 pm AnassaRh: #FF @inkgypsy because she’s supportive, insightful, and has a dog in surgery today. :( Also she founded #ufchat (3 pm PST, 6 pm EST on Sat.)
8:53 pm tadbo: RT @AnassaRh: #FF @inkgypsy because she’s supportive, insightful, and has a dog in surgery today. :( Also she founded #ufchat (3 pm PST, 6 pm EST on Sat.)
10:06 pm Preternatural__: I don’t generally, but she wrote a kick ass book, AFTERLIFE, & she’s cool to boot. Check her out on #UFChat this Sat. #FF @MerrieDestefano
11:44 pm JLCoburn: @inkgypsy No #UFChat for me this week. Going to be out of town.
December 11, 2010
1:10 am shadowflame1974: our special guest this week ? UF author @MerrieDestefano who?s debut novel AFTERLIFE recently debuted. #UFchat Tomorrow at 5 pm CST
5:00 pm inkgypsy: #UFchat‘s Dec rec. read: Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles by @MerrieDestefano http://bit.ly/hPzSlZ Join us in Q&A w her TODAY! 3pmPST
5:00 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat‘s Dec rec. read: Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles by @MerrieDestefano http://bit.ly/hPzSlZ Join us in Q&A w her TODAY! 3pmPST
5:00 pm Daylilie222: RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat‘s Dec rec. read: Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles by @MerrieDestefano http://bit.ly/hPzSlZ Join us in Q&A w her TODAY! 3pmPST
5:18 pm tadbo: RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat‘s Dec rec. read: Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles by @MerrieDestefano http://bit.ly/hPzSlZ Join us in Q&A w her TODAY! 3pmPST
6:01 pm MerrieDestefano: Death, life, the quest for immortality. Join me on #UFchat today at 3 p.m. @InkGypsy and I will discuss the themes of AFTERLIFE and more!
6:02 pm specficdb: RT @MerrieDestefano: Death, life, the quest for immortality. Join me on #UFchat today at 3 p.m. @InkGypsy and I will discuss the themes of AFTERLIFE and more!
6:30 pm UF_Chat: #UFchat has special guest Q&A today w @MerrieDestefano re debut novel AFTERLIFE, life & death in UF & signed copy to WIN during chat! 3pmPST
6:30 pm inkgypsy: #UFchat has special guest Q&A today w @MerrieDestefano re debut novel AFTERLIFE, life & death in UF & signed copy to WIN during chat! 3pmPST
6:30 pm shadowflame1974: RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat has special guest Q&A today w @MerrieDestefano re debut novel AFTERLIFE, life & death in UF & signed copy to WIN during chat! 3pmPST
7:06 pm MerrieDestefano: RT @inkgypsy: #UFchat has special guest Q&A today w @MerrieDestefano re debut novel AFTERLIFE, life & death in UF & signed copy to WIN during chat! 3pmPST
8:00 pm UF_Chat: 3 hours till #UFchat! Guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano re futuristic/UF debut AFTERLIFE – You can win signed copy in chat today! 3pm PST
8:00 pm inkgypsy: 3 hours till #UFchat! Guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano re futuristic/UF debut AFTERLIFE – You can win signed copy in chat today! 3pm PST
8:00 pm Jinxie_G: RT @UF_Chat: 3 hours till #UFchat! Guest author Q&A w @MerrieDestefano re futuristic/UF debut AFTERLIFE – You can win signed copy in chat today! 3pm PST
9:00 pm inkgypsy: 2 hrs to #UFchat!What if we didn’t have to die but had 2nd chance? Chat life&death in UF + Q&A w @MerrieDestefano re AFTERLIFE & WIN! 3pmPST
9:00 pm UF_Chat: 2 hrs to #UFchat!What if we didn’t have to die but had 2nd chance? Chat life&death in UF + Q&A w @MerrieDestefano re AFTERLIFE & WIN! 3pmPST
10:00 pm inkgypsy: Jim Butcher meets Bladerunner in AFTERLIFE by today’s guest author @MerrieDestefano! Win signed copy during our Q&A. #UFChat 1 hour! 3pm PST
10:00 pm UF_Chat: Jim Butcher meets Bladerunner in AFTERLIFE by today’s guest author @MerrieDestefano! Win signed copy during our Q&A. #UFChat 1 hour! 3pm PST
10:03 pm QQwill: RT @inkgypsy: Jim Butcher meets Bladerunner in AFTERLIFE by today’s guest author @MerrieDestefano! Win signed copy during our Q&A. #UFChat 1 hour! 3pm PST
10:24 pm J_GriffinB: Going to tickle my girl till she gives up, hopefully before the start of #UFchat . #ufchat
10:25 pm inkgypsy: TOPIC: Life and death in UF + Q&A with Merrie Destefano re Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles #UFchat
10:25 pm UF_Chat: TOPIC: Life and death in UF + Q&A with Merrie Destefano re Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles #UFchat
10:25 pm Book_Faery: RT @inkgypsy: TOPIC: Life and death in UF + Q&A with Merrie Destefano re Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles #UFchat
10:28 pm shadowflame1974: Count down to #UFchat 30 minutes. How death affects an MC. with special guest, @MerrieDestefano
10:30 pm UF_Chat: 30 mins to #UFchat! TODAY ask special guest author @Merriedestefano a question & you’ll be entered to win a signed copy of AFTERLIFE! 3pmPST
10:30 pm inkgypsy: 30 mins to #UFchat! TODAY ask special guest author @Merriedestefano a question & you’ll be entered to win a signed copy of AFTERLIFE! 3pmPST
10:44 pm shadowflame1974: 15 minutes to #UFchat. What happens after death? with guest @MerrieDestefano! Ask a question and be entered to win a book.
10:45 pm UF_Chat: 15 mins to #UFchat! Life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF + special Q&A w author @MerrieDestefano. Ask her a question during chat & U could win bk!!
10:45 pm inkgypsy: 15 mins to #UFchat! Life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF + special Q&A w author @MerrieDestefano. Ask her a question during chat & U could win bk!!
10:46 pm SpiceBites: RT @inkgypsy: 15 mins to #UFchat! Life, death & AFTERLIFE in UF + special Q&A w author @MerrieDestefano. Ask her a question during chat & U could win bk!!
10:46 pm SpiceBites: @inkgypsy Lookinf forward to #UFchat!
10:50 pm inkgypsy: Primer for #UFchat early birds: The Body?Whedon?s most powerful death portrayal was natural one (Buffy’s mom) http://bit.ly/fNtiyV #UFchat
10:50 pm UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds: The Body?Whedon?s most powerful death portrayal was natural one (Buffy’s mom) http://bit.ly/fNtiyV #UFchat
10:51 pm inkgypsy: Primer #2 for #UFchat early birds: AFTERLIFE: The Resurrection Chronicles (blurb & reviews) http://bit.ly/eK8FBe #UFchat
10:51 pm UF_Chat: Primer #2 for #UFchat early birds: AFTERLIFE: The Resurrection Chronicles (blurb & reviews) http://bit.ly/eK8FBe #UFchat
10:55 pm inkgypsy: Pulling on my #UFchat stomping boots, changing to mod hat & handing pair to kickass author @MerrieDestefano for our special Q&A w her today!
10:55 pm inkgypsy: @SpiceBites Yay! And today you might win something too.. ;) woo hoo! #UFchat
10:57 pm UF_Chat: Urban fantasy people! We have a guest author’s brain to nibble on today! Plus you can win signed copy of AFTERLIFE #UFchat in 4 minutes!
10:57 pm inkgypsy: Urban fantasy people! We have a guest author’s brain to nibble on today! Plus you can win signed copy of AFTERLIFE #UFchat in 4 minutes!
10:59 pm J_GriffinB: Slides in… #ufchat
10:59 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB Hello! Got questions I hope. ;) #UFchat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: 3, 2… & now live with #UFchat! Life, death, resurrection, do-overs ? death is key force in UF but how is it really handled? #ufchat
11:00 pm soniawrite: hi ufchat #UFchat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: TODAY: Life goes on in UF ? usually well after death. What does it do to life and death values if you get 2nd (& more) chances? #ufchat
11:00 pm Preternatural__: Cheers all! #UFchat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: Reminder: ?S? stands for statement, which will be followed by a ?Q? (a related #UFchat question for discussion). #ufchat
11:00 pm saramcclung: hi :) #ufchat
11:00 pm MerrieDestefano: @inkgypsy Can I use #UFchat for a hashtag?
11:00 pm UF_Chat: @soniawrite Hi! Good to see you! :) #ufchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: Q1: People die and return to life all the time in UF ? what are the various ways people can ?come back?? #ufchat
11:01 pm J_GriffinB: @saramcclung Hey! #ufchat
11:01 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano Please do :) #UFchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano That’s excactly the right one. :) #ufchat
11:01 pm shadowflame1974: @MerrieDestefano sure can hon! welcome everyone #ufchat
11:01 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano Easier to go to: http://tweetchat.com/room/ufchat #ufchat
11:01 pm inkgypsy: @MerrieDestefano I replied as mod – yes – perfect! #UFchat
11:02 pm soniawrite: @UF_Chat ghosts, vampires, zombies are all ways to die and come back #UFchat
11:02 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat stinking dead, sparkly dead, mostly dead, misty dead… I’m sure I’m missing some deads here. #ufchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: Hello all! Guest author today – let’s warm up the topic a bit first to get us settled in – life & death. 1st question is up! #ufchat
11:02 pm soniawrite: @J_GriffinB sparkly dead? twilight vamps? #UFchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: Q1a: How much of themselves/their humanness do they retain? #ufchat
11:02 pm shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB lol in other words zombies, vampires, did you mention ghosts? #ufchat
11:03 pm soniawrite: @MerrieDestefano hello! your book is on my tbr. haven’t gotten to it yet though #UFchat
11:03 pm J_GriffinB: @soniawrite Couldn’t resist the jab. Oh. Horny dead. And the re-possessed. #ufchat
11:03 pm J_GriffinB: @shadowflame1974 Misty, darling. Misty. #ufchat
11:03 pm ladytechie: Hmm, shade? #ufchat
11:03 pm shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB aaahhhh I see #ufchat
11:03 pm soniawrite: @UF_Chat q1a. sometimes a lot, sometimes none. but the change somehow, usually become harder #UFchat
11:03 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines Hey! Guest author today – you want to pick her brain too? It’s tasty.. ;) #UFchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: Q2: Death is usually violent and painful in UF ? can you think of any UF in which natural death occurs? #ufchat
11:04 pm ladytechie: Yes until they start chomping on people. Then not so much. #ufchat
11:05 pm soniawrite: @UF_Chat accidental death? death by old age? um . . .no. #UFchat
11:05 pm shadowflame1974: Q1a sometimes not much at all. depends on what they come back as… #ufchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: S: Joss Whedon got many kudos for his Buffy episode The Body in which Buffy?s mother dies a natural death she can?t fight. #ufchat
11:05 pm Preternatural__: S2 Ummm…honestly, no. #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: Q2a: Why was The Body episode on Buffy series so powerful? #ufchat
11:05 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A2: Not that takes place in the present narrative. Usually it’s the parental unit that died, leaving some trace… #ufchat
11:05 pm soniawrite: is suicide natural? #UFchat
11:06 pm soniawrite: @UF_Chat I don’t think I saw that episode. #UFchat
11:06 pm ladytechie: A2: Because Buffy can fight anything but that. #ufchat
11:06 pm Preternatural__: @soniawrite Really? When Buffy’s mom dies? #UFchat
11:06 pm J_GriffinB: @soniawrite Not according to insurance and legal definitions, no. #ufchat
11:06 pm UF_Chat: Q3: Why is there such (unconscious) resistance to portraying natural death in UF? Especially when it?s such a prevalent device? #ufchat
11:07 pm soniawrite: anita blake’s mother died in an accident, didn’t she? that was accidental and it had a pretty strong impact on her. #UFchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: @soniawrite It’s considered his best ever by many – some controversy over why wasn’t put up for Emmy. #ufchat
11:07 pm soniawrite: @J_GriffinB just checking. thanks #UFchat
11:07 pm ladytechie: @soniawrite It was extremely moving and sad. #ufchat
11:08 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A3: Too prosaic, I should think. Readers and writers want to get the hell away from the halitosis & pimples of daily life #ufchat
11:08 pm UF_Chat: Q4: Other than as a vampire what other instances of resurrection (or similar – ie. actually dying & coming back) are in UF? #ufchat
11:08 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano No, worries. Just use your hashtag, yeah? #UFchat
11:08 pm soniawrite: @Preternatural__ yeah, really. i really don’t remember that. been watching it on netflix but I am only up season 2 #UFchat
11:09 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A4: Ghost springs to mind. #ufchat
11:09 pm inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB I was watching for it! lol I think you’re 6 for 6 since you started now – or more! #UFchat
11:09 pm soniawrite: @UF_Chat I don’t remember this controversy. oh well #UFchat
11:09 pm Preternatural__: @soniawrite Ummm..Season 6? I wanna say…the one with Glory. #UFchat
11:09 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat I still want to throw a pot with Demi. #ufchat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: Q4a: What were consequences, if any, of these characters coming back from the dead (eg special powers)? #ufchat
11:10 pm thedragongem: Q4: Ghosts. In the Women of the Otherworld series #UFchat
11:10 pm J_GriffinB: @inkgypsy It is a maxim I want writers to accept, therefore I preach the word! #ufchat
11:10 pm soniawrite: @Preternatural__ ohh. i don’t think i was watching buffy than #UFchat
11:10 pm shadowflame1974: Q2 Two come to mind CEMurphy’s Urban Shaman. Mother dies Lackey’s Dianne’s best friend Lennie dies of AIDS #ufchat
11:10 pm Preternatural__: @thedragongem Good point. or in the case of Eve, something else #UFchat
11:11 pm UF_Chat: S: Our special guest today @MerrieDestefano has recently debuted with her novel AFTERLIFE ? set in alt-semi-future-world? #ufchat
11:11 pm UF_Chat: S cont: … in which now possible to ?download? to new body when die so are essentially resurrected & get a 2nd life (up to 9 times) #ufchat
11:12 pm soniawrite: a4 ghosts are all i can think of #UFchat
11:12 pm UF_Chat: Q5: What might the repercussions be on the psyche of a character of coming back from natural death as opposed to a violent one? #ufchat
11:12 pm ladytechie: 4a: Families are affected. Some accepting, some not so much. #UFChat
11:12 pm soniawrite: @UF_Chat depends on what they came back as. as vamps, well, blood and all that. ghosts – it depends on the writer does ghosts #UFchat
11:13 pm UF_Chat: Q6: Natural death (& coming back from it) has possibility of making character feel more helpless than ?surviving? violent one. Why? #ufchat
11:13 pm thedragongem: The Crow was a Revenant #UFchat
11:13 pm inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB I think it’s am excellent cause. :) #UFchat
11:14 pm shadowflame1974: Violent death would have PTSD attached Natural: having unfinished business left to attend to. Maybe overly enthusiastic over things #ufchat
11:14 pm UF_Chat: S: Interesting 2 note many legendary monsters that traditionally threatened life are transformed in UF to become ?alt-life? options! #ufchat
11:14 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano Does nine play out further into the series as the ‘special number?’ #UFchat
11:14 pm UF_Chat: S cont: Eg vampire ? life after death, zombies ? life tho traditionally ?dead? etc #ufchat
11:14 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat I think that might depend on the nature of the natural death, & whether the ‘copies’ have the same flaw that led to demise. #ufchat
11:14 pm UF_Chat: Q7: Why do you think this is especially prevalent in the UF genre? #ufchat
11:14 pm soniawrite: q6: a violent is more likely to affect the psyche too I think #UFchat
11:15 pm MerrieDestefano: @CarolynCrane No other number seemed to work for me, plus I wanted at least 500 years of life. #ufchat
11:15 pm soniawrite: the dead people who come back to life in the highlander? #UFchat
11:15 pm UF_Chat: @Preternatural__ Not sure if she’s grabbing last minute coffee – ask again if she doesn’t reply. Good question. #ufchat
11:15 pm MerrieDestefano: @Preternatural__ Oh, hello! No special significance in number other than it gave me the lifespan (500 years) that I wanted. #ufchat
11:15 pm SpiceBites: Q7: Would Zombies count? #UFChat
11:16 pm MerrieDestefano: Sorry, have I missed some questions? =( #ufchat #amslowtypist
11:16 pm CarolynCrane: @MerrieDestefano It does seem natural. If you didn’t do 9, ppl would prolly be like, why not 9? #ufchat
11:16 pm UF_Chat: Reminder to #UFchat watchers – please use hashtag so we & Merrie can see your comment/question (& you can be entered to win too.) :) #ufchat
11:16 pm UF_Chat: Q8: What UF characters not already turned or ?returned? might consider a resurrection? Why? #ufchat
11:16 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano Did the blend on SF/UF come from what you read or you just dig both genres? #UFchat
11:17 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Just tuning in..and reading through the thread to try and catch up-hi everyone!! #UFchat
11:17 pm MerrieDestefano: @CarolynCrane yeah, I didn’t want double digits. Didn’t want 3 or 7, 9 just worked for me. #ufchat
11:17 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Nope – no misses as Mr. P is asking again. We’re almost up to intro-ing you. :) #ufchat
11:17 pm UF_Chat: S: In AFTERLIFE people who download selves to new body & life get a ?babysitter? for the 1st week to help them adjust. #ufchat
11:17 pm ladytechie: Afterlife was amazingly original, well-written and thought-provoking. I loved it! #UFChat
11:17 pm UF_Chat: Q9: How would you imagine your first week would be in a new body after dying & leaving old life behind? Perks? Cons? #ufchat
11:18 pm MerrieDestefano: Did we skip Q7b? #ufchat #lost
11:18 pm SpiceBites: Q8: Mummies might want to resurrection for revenge #UFChat
11:18 pm soniawrite: @UF_Chat mostly cons, I should think #UFchat
11:18 pm UF_Chat: @ladytechie I thought it was a wonderful addition to genre too – diff approach but still strong UF feel! Loved it. #ufchat
11:18 pm MerrieDestefano: Q9: Very few perks except extended life. First week is disorienting & you struggle with all your memories coming back at once. [1/3] #Ufchat
11:18 pm MerrieDestefano: Q9: At the same time, you can?t remember important things, like looking both ways before crossing a street. [2/3] #Ufchat
11:18 pm MerrieDestefano: Q9: On the other hand, you are stunningly beautiful in first week. Again, not necessarily good, because of kidnappings. [3/3] #UFchat
11:19 pm CarolynCrane: @SpiceBites LOL Has anybody done a mummy UF? #UFChat
11:19 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Heh heh – not yet. Still in 1st 10 questions. Not in the Merrie questions yet – almost – 1 to go. :) #ufchat
11:19 pm shadowflame1974: Q9 distorted. getting used to new body how it moves compared to the old one. #ufchat
11:19 pm UF_Chat: Q10: Life goes on in UF ? usually well after death. What does it do to life and death values if you get 2nd (& more) chances? #ufchat
11:19 pm MerrieDestefano: Q8: Almost anyone might decide to resurrect, although you can?t if you?ve committed a capital crime or any sort of terrorism. [1/4] #Ufchat
11:19 pm MerrieDestefano: Q8: The twist is that not everyone wants to resurrect. Groups of people, called One-Timers choose death over life; [2/4] #Ufchat
11:19 pm MerrieDestefano: Q8: They hold pro-death ralleys and fight for the right to choose death. Nine-Timers, on the other hand, fight for more life. [3/4] #Ufchat
11:19 pm MerrieDestefano: Q8: There are even suicide cults, people who have become addicted to the resurrection process. [4/4] #UFchat
11:19 pm Jinxie_G: Ah crap. See? Now I really do have another book to add to my TBR pile! Told you @MerrieDestefano. *runs away from #UFchat*
11:20 pm SpiceBites: @CarolynCrane There so should be one –mummy UF that is ;P #UFChat
11:20 pm UF_Chat: It?s now time to introduce our special guest this week ? UF author @MerrieDestefano who?s debut novel AFTERLIFE recently debuted. #ufchat
11:20 pm UF_Chat: AFTERLIFE= Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher. Thrilling UF noir adventure set in alt New Orleans where life after death is big business. #ufchat
11:20 pm Jinxie_G: RT @UF_Chat: It?s now time to introduce our special guest this week ? UF author @MerrieDestefano who?s debut novel AFTERLIFE recently debuted. #ufchat
11:20 pm MerrieDestefano: @Preternatural__ I don’t read much UF, more SF and other genres. #ufchat
11:20 pm Book_Faery: Ahh it’s so fun hearing @MerrieDestefano discuss AFTERLIFE. Loved reading that book! #UFchat
11:20 pm J_GriffinB: RT @MerrieDesteffano Anyone might decide to resurrect, although you can?t if you?ve committed a capital crime or terrorism. #ufchat
11:20 pm soniawrite: @MerrieDestefano suicide cults? really? wow sounds they glamorize death #UFchat
11:20 pm UF_Chat: Welcome @MerrieDestefano! Thank you for joining us today & for enabling the giveaway too (signed copy of her book!). #ufchat
11:21 pm CarolynCrane: @UF_Chat @MerrieDestefano Wow, that sounds really interesting an cool. And, they don’t look like themselves? #ufchat
11:21 pm UF_Chat: I?ll ask Q’s until 3:45-ish & then will open floor for all other Q’s. If have on-topic Q during Q&A pls address Merrie & use hashtag #ufchat
11:21 pm MerrieDestefano: Hi, everyone! #ufchat
11:21 pm UF_Chat: ? otherwise please hold Q?s till floor is opened. Remember ALL questions to Merrie will be entered into signed book giveaway today! #ufchat
11:21 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano Nice. I’ll bring up SF influences when not here *grin* #UFchat
11:21 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Congratulations on your debut novel and the positive response! #ufchat
11:21 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat Thanks for inviting me! Sorry for answering all the wrong questions. DUh. #ufchat
11:21 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q1: When did you first have the idea for AFTERLIFE? #ufchat
11:21 pm ASolitaryScribe: @MerrieDestefano this sounds awesome. They come back as adults? #ufchat
11:22 pm CarolynCrane: @SpiceBites *thinking about mummies now* #UFChat
11:22 pm UF_Chat: @Preternatural__ No – no – ask here too! Curious. :) #ufchat
11:22 pm soniawrite: @MerrieDestefano hi! #UFchat
11:22 pm MerrieDestefano: @ASolitaryScribe Yes, always adults. =) #ufchat
11:22 pm MerrieDestefano: Q1: About 2-3 years ago. Grew from a science article I read about how lengthening telomeres in DNA could give us immortality. #UFchat
11:22 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Actually they worked well. :D #ufchat
11:22 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q1a: Per the description ? how would you say AFTERLIFE like Jim Butcher? How about Bladerunner? #ufchat
11:23 pm MerrieDestefano: Q1a: Unfortunately, haven?t read Jim Butcher?s books, so can?t comment. However, I love Philip K. Dick and social sci fi… [1/3] #Ufchat
11:23 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano OK, since I read a lot of SF as well, what do you like/who influenced you? #UFchat
11:23 pm CarolynCrane: @UF_Chat OMG! I’m sorry. I just blunder in with questions! #ufchat
11:23 pm MerrieDestefano: Q1: writers influence other writers. Bladerunner is a dark world where clones struggle for their right 2 live (in the movie) [3/3] #Ufchat
11:23 pm SpiceBites: @MerrieDestefano So glad u r here, I checked out Afterlife on Amazon & love the way the first bit reads @UF_Chat #UFChat
11:23 pm MerrieDestefano: Q1: In AFTERLIFE, people struggle for the right to die or the right to live forever. [3/3] #UFchat
11:23 pm MerrieDestefano: @SpiceBites Thanks! =) #ufchat
11:24 pm MerrieDestefano: Still hoping I am doing this right. #ufchat
11:24 pm UF_Chat: @CarolynCrane S’ok – hard to tame the rabble. ;) (Each chat is a little diff so we all try ways to help author Q&As keep track. :) #ufchat
11:24 pm UF_Chat: S: AFTERLIFE is not your usual UF ? eg. futuristic/UF mix, strong tech presence, w multi 1st person POVs. #ufchat
11:24 pm MerrieDestefano: @CarolynCrane LOL. And I blundered in answering the wrong questions! #ufchat
11:24 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q2: While definitely works, why decide to focus on UF market instead of eg sci-fi? What is appeal to UF readers? #ufchat
11:24 pm sandrawickham: Right now @MerrieDestefano is the guest over at #UFchat if you want to join in. Her book AFTERLIFE sounds excellent!
11:24 pm ladytechie: @MerrieDestefano Afterlife was totally amazing and actually was what drove me to write one of my first reviews on Goodreads. #UFChat
11:25 pm MerrieDestefano: Somebody poke me with a long stick when it’s time for me to answer another question. #ufchat
11:25 pm MerrieDestefano: Q2: My editor saw a lot of UF elements in AFTERLIFE, & we worked 2 make those stronger: dark, noir world, strong female… [1/3] #Ufchat
11:25 pm UF_Chat: @sandrawickham It really is. Gorgeous writing on top of great story! #ufchat
11:25 pm MerrieDestefano: Q2: character, first person POV, end of world scenario, life-after-death themes. [2/3] #Ufchat
11:25 pm MerrieDestefano: Q2: Sometimes thinking outside of the box can make a book stronger. So far, have had great response from UF readers. [3/3] #Ufchat
11:25 pm UF_Chat: S: Merrie also co-wrote the text for the Walter Foster book How to Draw Zombies ? clearly she?s no stranger to the undead! #ufchat
11:25 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q3: In what way are the new bodies of people resurrected in AFTERLIFE similar to other undead – if at all? #ufchat
11:25 pm MerrieDestefano: My editor is made out of pure gold, BTW. #ufchat
11:26 pm MerrieDestefano: @ladytechie Awww! So sweet. Thank you! #ufchat
11:26 pm SpiceBites: @MerrieDestefano Since Afterlife sounds quite different than most, was it harder to sell? #UFChat
11:26 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Nice! (editor kudos – always great to hear. :) #ufchat
11:26 pm MerrieDestefano: Q3: Not similar to zombies at all; maybe slightly similar to vampires in that insatiable quest for life. #UFchat
11:26 pm CarolynCrane: It is interesting topic, death, and how the post-dead of all kinds have both advantages and liabilities #ufchat
11:27 pm MerrieDestefano: Must pay attention. Almost missed my question. #imanerd #ufchat
11:27 pm MerrieDestefano: @SpiceBites Do you mean to a publisher or a reader? #ufchat
11:27 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano Did you have D Gill edit AFTERLIFE? #UFchat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q3a: Did working on How to Draw Zombies & Afterlife ever overlap ? did one ever affect the other? #ufchat
11:28 pm MerrieDestefano: Q3a: AFTERLIFE was finished when I did the How to Draw Zombies book, so zombies did not affect the novel. [1/3] #Ufchat
11:28 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q4: What sort of research did you do for AFTERLIFE? #ufchat
11:28 pm SpiceBites: @MerrieDestefano To a publisher…. #UFChat
11:28 pm MerrieDestefano: Q3a: However, working on the zombie book got me over my creep factor. I really didn?t like zombies co-wrote the zombie book. [2/3] #Ufchat
11:28 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano She is all sorts of awesome when you look at the titles she edits =) #UFchat
11:28 pm MerrieDestefano: Q3a. Now I think I would like add a zombie or two to some future novel. Not AFTERLIFE, though. [3/3] #Ufchat
11:29 pm MerrieDestefano: @SpiceBites I think the important thing is to find agent/editor/publisher who share your vision. #ufchat
11:30 pm CarolynCrane: aQ7 In a way, UF tames monsters for people in a “scary” era, but it also apparently tames death, too. In so many books. #ufchat
11:30 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano And what publisher are you with? #ufchat
11:30 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano I’ll try to wait for your multi answers (thanks for putting the 3/3 indicators!) #UFchat
11:30 pm MerrieDestefano: Q4: Researched New Orleans, the history, the culture, the food, the music, the French Quarter, the bayou, the plants.#UFchat
11:30 pm MerrieDestefano: Q4: Also, researched French terms. #ufchat
11:30 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q5: What was it that got you interested in the concept of resurrection technology, if anything? #ufchat
11:31 pm SpiceBites: @MerrieDestefano LOL! Those must have been some fun research trips, esp. the food & music one ;P #UFChat
11:32 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano: Seems lots room to explore stories of ?second chances? in world of AFTERLIFE ? what they would do & why. (cont) #ufchat
11:32 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q6: Any chance we?ll see some of those ?second chance? stories? #ufchat
11:33 pm MerrieDestefano: Q6: By second chance stories, do you mean sequels? If so, yes. There?s lots of room for sequel stories in this world. [1/3]#Ufchat
11:33 pm MerrieDestefano: Q6: I?m finishing a project right now. As soon as it?s done (mid-January), I plan to start an AFTERLIFE sequel. [2/3] #Ufchat
11:33 pm MerrieDestefano: Q6: So many people who have read AFTERLIFE have already asked me for a sequel, which is really cool! [2/3] #Ufchat
11:33 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano RT @J_GriffinB Publisher is Eos/HarperCollins. Will change names soon to Voyager/HarperCollins. #ufchat
11:33 pm UF_Chat: Amazing detail w/out actually being there! Kudos! #UFchat RT @MerrieDestefano: @SpiceBites I wish I could have taken a trip to NOLA. =(
11:33 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q7: New Orleans is wonderfully fleshed out – like character in book. What made you choose the city to set story in? #ufchat
11:34 pm MerrieDestefano: Q7: Oh, so many reasons! Loved the City of the Dead cemeteries, loved the culture, loved that it is the birthplace of jazz. [1/3] #Ufchat
11:34 pm MerrieDestefano: Q7: Plus I have a great respect for the people of the city [NOLA] and what they have gone through with Katrina. I wanted to.. [2/3] #Ufchat
11:34 pm MerrieDestefano: Q7: increase public awareness of the city and the people. [3/3] #UFchat
11:35 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q7a: You live in Southern CA. How did you go about researching New Orleans in such vivid detail? #ufchat
11:35 pm MerrieDestefano: Q7a: I read everything I could find, from blog posts to books to magazines. Anything that would tell me about the city. [1/3] #Ufchat
11:35 pm MerrieDestefano: Q7a: Plus a year earlier, I ran a special issue of Victorian Homes mag that featured NOLA. [I was the editor then] [2/3] #Ufchat
11:36 pm MerrieDestefano: Q7a: So I already had a LOT of facts in my head by the time I wrote the book. [3/3]#Ufchat
11:36 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Ooh nice insider look! (Magazine article editor) #ufchat
11:36 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q7b: Can you pls describe the New Orleans of AFTERLIFE? The social structure/layers/levels? #ufchat
11:37 pm MerrieDestefano: Q7b: AFTERLIFE is set in near future New Orleans, in a time when people can resurrect instead of die, through a [1/4] #Ufchat
11:37 pm MerrieDestefano: Q7b: company called Fresh Start. It’s a dark world and society has basically been turned inside out. Very few children born [2/4] #Ufchat
11:37 pm MerrieDestefano: Q7b: families almost non-existent. People now “invent” their own families by meeting people in virtual reality chat bars. [3/4] #Ufchat
11:37 pm MerrieDestefano: Q7b: Virtual reality can take you anywhere in the world; But even with 9 potential lives, people still crave immortality. [4/4] #Ufchat
11:38 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat Thanks! =) #ufchat
11:38 pm UF_Chat: @MerriDestefano Q8: With resurrection tech avail. there is group of people: “One Timers”. Can you explain their POV of life/death? #ufchat
11:39 pm MerrieDestefano: Q8: One-Timers are a group of people who choose not to resurrect, either for religious or moral or personal reasons. [1/3] #Ufchat
11:39 pm MerrieDestefano: Q8: The family that owns the resurrection technology happened to be One-Timers, so they were conflicted. [2/3] #Ufchat
11:39 pm MerrieDestefano: Q8: I really enjoy working with characters that are conflicted. =) [3/3] #UFchat
11:39 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q9: Is a pro-death priest in AFTERLIFE – sounds contrary to our understanding of priests. Can you explain his POV? #ufchat
11:40 pm MerrieDestefano: Q9: Yes, a lot of religious people in AFTERLIFE are pro-death. It?s similar to how people now are pro-life. [1/2] #Ufchat
11:40 pm MerrieDestefano: Q9: I don?t think that character had a POV. But he believed in giving people the right to choose death over resurrection. [2/2] #UFchat
11:41 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Priest had Chapter opening quote if memory serves. #UFchat
11:41 pm UF_Chat: S: Some UF has long-lived vamps changing name, starting new life in new place after while to stay hidden, like resurrected in bk. #ufchat
11:41 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat Yeah, that’s the priest. =) #ufchat
11:41 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q10: Did you have vampires in mind at all when writing the ?life jumps?? #ufchat
11:42 pm MerrieDestefano: Q10: No, not vampires. I think our quest for immortality goes beyond vampires. In other words, [1/2] #Ufchat
11:42 pm MerrieDestefano: Q10: I believe mankind has craved immortality long before vampires came into the picture. [2/2] #UFchat
11:42 pm UF_Chat: S: One of MCs in AFTERLIFE is Chaz Dominguez who is a ?Babysitter? ? a feared/respected job/position. #ufchat
11:42 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q11: What is a ?babysitter? and how did you come up with the concept? #ufchat
11:43 pm MerrieDestefano: Q11: Babysitters watch over you when you resurrect. They have more power than the local or international police #Ufchat
11:43 pm MerrieDestefano: Q11: As I worked on the story, in my mind, I realized that Newbies would be too vulnerable on their own. #Ufchat
11:43 pm MerrieDestefano: Q11: So I created Babysitters and made the main character one. #Ufchat
11:43 pm MerrieDestefano: Q11: So the book has one POV of a Newbie and one of a Babysitter. #UFchat
11:43 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q11a: I imagine training for a Babysitter would be tough! Are there other babysitters in world? How do they train? #ufchat
11:44 pm MerrieDestefano: Q11a: Absolutely! Lots of Babysitters. Training would be like training for a Navy SEAL. #UFchat
11:44 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q12: How is death treated differently by world of AFTERLIFE compared to a) us b) other UF series/characters? #ufchat
11:44 pm MerrieDestefano: I feel like I’m “over-talking” everyone. Pure silence. #ufchat
11:45 pm MerrieDestefano: Q12: Not sure about other UF series. But in AFTERLIFE, death is like the unspoken fear. Everyone tries to forget it exists. #UFchat
11:45 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano Mummification processes of the Egyptians comes to mind; including servants, pets, food in afterlife a good example. #ufchat
11:45 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano I think they’re watching, fascinated & waiting for open question time. :D #UFchat
11:45 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano *listening/reading chat* I’ll ask at the general *L* #UFchat
11:45 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q13: Why did you decide 9 times would be the maximum times resurrection technology would work? (eg Symbolic etc) #ufchat
11:45 pm soniawrite: no, i am just listioning. reading, that is #UFchat
11:45 pm SpiceBites: @MerrieDestefano reading in rapt attention :) #UFChat
11:45 pm Jess_Haines: @MerrieDestefano I’ll be over soon, just wrapping Xmas shopping and stuff. ARGH. Want. To. CHAT. #ufchat
11:46 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano and moderator asked us to shut it till 1/4 till. #ufchat
11:46 pm MerrieDestefano: @Jess_Haines Want you to chat! #ufchat
11:46 pm MerrieDestefano: @J_GriffinB Oh, yeah. =) #ufchat
11:46 pm Jess_Haines: @MerrieDestefano OK, let me jump in the shower and get dressed, will be over to chat in like 15-20 mins #ufchat
11:46 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines We’re here – open questions soon -thought you might like to see an author Q&A. :) (Plus topic & Merrie are awesome :D ) #UFchat
11:47 pm MerrieDestefano: Q13: No other number seemed right to me. Didn?t like Three-Timers or Six-Timers. Plus I really wanted to create a world where [1/2] #UFchat
11:47 pm MerrieDestefano: Q13: people could live to be 500 years old. I felt like that was long enough to create an entirely different world. [2/2] #UFchat
11:47 pm inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB Nice. :P #UFchat
11:47 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q13a: What are restrictions of resurrection in AFTERLIFE? Can you ‘upgrade’ to better looks, better athlete etc? #ufchat
11:47 pm MerrieDestefano: Almost missed my question! Argh. #ufchat
11:47 pm MerrieDestefano: Q13a: you can upgrade to almost anything. #ufchat
11:48 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q14: The dog Omega is very important character. Considering 9 lives etc why write a dog & not a cat? #ufchat
11:48 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat Q13a: but you can only keep 50 % of your memories. #ufchat
11:48 pm MerrieDestefano: Q14: I wanted the dog to be able to interact more with people, to save lives if necessary. A cat wouldn?t have been able to do that. #Ufchat
11:48 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat I want upgrades: No dyslexia, better joints, thank you. #ufchat
11:48 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Q15: What do you think is handled well regarding life vs death in UF genre? What aspects are unexplored/avoided? #ufchat
11:49 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat Tough question. I think UF handles the supernatural elements very well. #ufchat
11:50 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano LAST Q b4 floor open: If you ?yourself, in this reality- had the option to be resurrected, would you? Why/why not? #ufchat
11:50 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat Q15: But rarely ever deal with the science. #ufchat
11:50 pm MerrieDestefano: @UF_Chat Q15: I also think theology not covered that much. But maybe I haven’t read enough UF. #ufchat
11:51 pm MerrieDestefano: Q16: No, I?m a One-Timer. Like my main character, Chaz. One life and then I?m done. I believe in heaven and want to go there. =) #UFchat
11:51 pm UF_Chat: NOW OPENING FLOOR FOR Q?s. Remember each person asking gets entered into giveaway today! Pls @MerrieDestefano & add #UFchat hashtag. #ufchat
11:51 pm MerrieDestefano: I think I survived. #ufchat
11:51 pm ladytechie: @MerrieDestefano Relationships are key in this book. What drove your depiction of the relationship between the brothers/father? #UFChat
11:52 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano Sounds like the usual suspect, but who influenced you in SF? #UFchat
11:52 pm UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Now you get lots of questions from all over… ;) #UFchat
11:52 pm MerrieDestefano: Whoa, I feel like I was juggling eels there. #ufchat
11:52 pm ASolitaryScribe: @MerrieDestefano i’m so intrigued. What sorts of new religions has this science created? #ufchat
11:53 pm MerrieDestefano: @ladytechie I love relationships. To me, Chaz and Russ approached their struggles so differently. Both loved their father. #ufchat
11:53 pm shadowflame1974: @MerrieDestefano lol no now comes the eel juggling :D #ufchat
11:53 pm MerrieDestefano: @ladytechie but one fell apart (Russ) when difficulties came along, one grew stronger (Chaz) #ufchat
11:53 pm soniawrite: okay this may seem like a silly question, but who are your fav authors? also, did you read any books on writing? #UFchat
11:54 pm MerrieDestefano: Strong, 3-dimensional characters are crucial for a good plot, to me. #ufchat
11:54 pm J_GriffinB: @marieDestefano: Why only 50% of memories? #ufchat
11:54 pm inkgypsy: @soniawrite You might need to address Merrie directly for her to see your question. :) #UFchat
11:54 pm MerrieDestefano: @Preternatural__ Loved Philip K. Dick, Ray Bradbury, Robert Heinlein, Michael Crichton. #ufchat
11:55 pm MerrieDestefano: @shadowflame1974 EEEEEEELLLSSS! #ufchat
11:55 pm soniawrite: @MerrieDestefano okay this may seem like a silly question, but who are your fav authors? also, did you read any books on writing? #UFchat
11:55 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano Damn straight! #ufchat
11:56 pm soniawrite: @inkgypsy thanks! #UFchat
11:56 pm MerrieDestefano: @soniawrite Loved James Scott Bell’s writing books, BIRD BY BIRD, WRITING DOWN THE BONES. #ufchat
11:56 pm SpiceBites: @MerrieDestefano Can a resurrected return to a love from a former life/reincarnation? #UFChat
11:56 pm inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB I just saw your pot comment.. ROFL! #UFchat
11:57 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano Do you intend to attend any writing cons in the next year? World Fantasy, World Science Fiction Convention #ufchat
11:57 pm MerrieDestefano: @J_GriffinB To be mean. =) Seriously, life needs challenge. And when you break the rules, you must pay a price. #ufchat
11:57 pm shadowflame1974: @MerrieDestefano When and why did you begin to write fiction after being involved with several magazines? #ufchat
11:57 pm MerrieDestefano: BTW, I will answer all questions, even if it takes me awhile. =) #ufchat
11:57 pm magelly: @MerrieDestefano Twitter chat can be very frantic. Keeping up with all that stuff. #ufchat
11:58 pm Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano Yeah, if you’re in SoCal, you could do ComicCon =) #UFchat
11:58 pm soniawrite: @MerrieDestefano thabnks! spicebites is a good queston – how does family come into all this? #UFchat
11:58 pm MerrieDestefano: @SpiceBites Do you mean could you return to live with your old boyfriend? Sure, if he wants you. Some thorns in this rose. #ufchat
11:58 pm MerrieDestefano: @inkgypsy Think I missed the pot comment. Must find! #ufchat
11:59 pm J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano So it’s purely a Mcguffin, placed there to challenge the characters? #ufchat
11:59 pm MerrieDestefano: @shadowflame1974 I always wanted to write fiction and have done so for a long time. The mag editor position was to pay the bills. #ufchat
11:59 pm SpiceBites: @MerrieDestefano I can see complications for a future book, unrequited love, the ex who refuses to die…. #UFChat
11:59 pm MerrieDestefano: @J_GriffinB Yes! I’m going to World Fantasy Con in SD, Comic Con in SD, ConDor in SD, maybe RT in LA. #ufchat
December 12, 2010
MerrieDestefano: @Preternatural__ totally. I went last year. it was SO much fun. #ufchat
J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano See you at WFC, then. Renovation? #ufchat
12:01 am MerrieDestefano: @J_GriffinB A McGuffin? I don’t understand. I’m very dense. #ufchat
12:01 am Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano SDCC is Always a blast! Lemme know what booth you’re at pls. #UFchat
12:01 am MerrieDestefano: @SpiceBites Yes, plus your time lines might not match up unless you died at same time. #ufchat
12:02 am UF_Chat: Last call for questions for @MerrieDestefano today (& entry into our signed book giveaway) – Ask Merrie now! #ufchat
12:02 am J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano A plot mechanism to challenge the characters/aid the writer in storytelling. #ufchat
12:02 am MerrieDestefano: @ASolitaryScribe I don’t think science created any religion. But religions changed. #ufchat
12:02 am Preternatural__: @J_GriffinB Yeah, you explain McGuffin in 140 characters or less *L* #UFchat
12:02 am SpiceBites: Dagnabbit, I’ve to go for a limo ride in 13 mins…but this was fun & v. interesting! #UFChat
12:02 am shadowflame1974: @MerrieDestefano when the person comes back does he get to chose what memories to keep or is it luck as to what processes? #ufchat
12:03 am J_GriffinB: @Preternatural__ Think I just did! #ufchat
12:03 am ASolitaryScribe: @MerrieDestefano what does this new science do to religion? R there new sects? #ufchat
12:03 am soniawrite: @SpiceBites @MerrieDestefano i can see whole family soap opera! tragedies! especially with the 50 % memory thing #UFchat
12:03 am UF_Chat: @SpiceBites We’ll announce winner in about 1/2 hr. :) #UFchat
12:03 am MerrieDestefano: @soniawrite Families often break up, lose contact with one another. People build fake families through Virtual Reality chat rooms. #ufchat
12:03 am J_GriffinB: @SpiceBites Careful. Those that ride in limos in my tales end up getting shot at a lot. #ufchat
12:04 am SpiceBites: @MerrieDestefano Nice to meet you & good luck! I’m looking forward to reading Afterlife. #UFChat
12:04 am J_GriffinB: @soniawrite @SpiceBites @MerrieDestefano Might be a blessing for some families. #ufchat
12:04 am MerrieDestefano: @J_GriffinB I think I need to learn more about McGuffins or whatever they are! I need to use them more often! #ufchat
12:04 am Preternatural__: @MerrieDestefano Thanks for stopping by =) #UFchat
12:04 am CarolynCrane: @MerrieDestefano What’s the most important issue/question for you, in the book. #ufchat
12:04 am MerrieDestefano: @shadowflame1974 Yes, you get to choose what memories to keep. But still, someone you know may have erased you from their memory. #ufchat
12:04 am SpiceBites: @J_GriffinB I think I’m more in danger of getting trampled by overexcited kids trying to see xmas lights. LOL! #UFChat
12:05 am MerrieDestefano: @ASolitaryScribe Yes, new religions or more like cults. I didn’t go in to that too much. Just implied. Suicide cults. #ufchat
12:06 am MerrieDestefano: @ASolitaryScribe Changes in major religions. The lack of death changed so much in the world of AFTERLIFE. #ufchat
12:06 am shadowflame1974: @SpiceBites lol ouch watch the toes! #ufchat
12:06 am VampBookClub: RT @UF_Chat: Last call for questions for @MerrieDestefano today (& entry into our signed book giveaway) – Ask Merrie now! #ufchat
12:06 am J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano Perhaps your next one in the series? #ufchat
12:06 am MerrieDestefano: @ASolitaryScribe It was like a long dark shadow fell over the world when they took away death. #ufchat
12:06 am MerrieDestefano: @soniawrite Exactly! Me too! #ufchat
12:06 am SpiceBites: @UF_Chat I’ll check the transcripts l8r for the winner. Deepest apologies for blundering w/ques. earlier. & Thanx for moderating! #UFChat
12:06 am MerrieDestefano: @SpiceBites Thanks so much and thanks for dropping by! #ufchat
12:06 am soniawrite: @J_GriffinB @soniawrite @SpiceBites @MerrieDestefano can only imagine the serial killers. & stalkers – being stalked through 9 lives #UFchat
12:07 am UF_Chat: RT @CarolynCrane: @MerrieDestefano What’s the most important issue/question for you, in the book. #ufchat
12:07 am SpiceBites: Toodles all! Have fun! #UFChat
12:07 am ladytechie: @MerrieDestefano What was the one part of the story to which you later realized you wished you gave more depth? #UFChat
12:07 am MerrieDestefano: @J_GriffinB @soniawrite @SpiceBites To not stay together? I think a lot of people would rather have diff. parents/sister/brothers. #ufchat
12:08 am inkgypsy: @soniawrite What a creepy 9and yet cool) idea! Multi-life stalker etc #UFchat
12:08 am J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat @CarolynCrane @MerrieDestefano And how is the technology policed? #ufchat
12:08 am UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Thanks for coming & answering our questions today & for the giveaway bonus! Any closing comments you?d like to add? #ufchat
12:08 am J_GriffinB: @MerrieDestefano My thoughts too. Forget all the shit pulled on you by siblings, the disappointments, etc. especially abusive house #ufchat
12:08 am MerrieDestefano: @soniawrite OOOOH, what a great idea! #ufchat
12:09 am J_GriffinB: RT @UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Thanks for coming & answering our questions today & for the giveaway bonus! #ufchat
12:09 am soniawrite: @MerrieDestefano oh, why, thank you lol #UFchat
12:09 am inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB Interesting charac study there-patterns evident even in kids who don’t remember etc -seeing that after erased memories & #UFchat
12:10 am inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB and trying to figure out the mystery of past would be twisted fun to write! #UFchat
12:10 am UF_Chat: FINAL BIG Q @MerrieDestefano Where can people find you online/contact you to ask questions about your book or other writing? #ufchat
12:11 am J_GriffinB: @inkgypsy Nine Princes in Amber comes to mind. He knows he can’t trust Random, but still likes him. Can’t explain it. #ufchat
12:11 am soniawrite: @inkgypsy yeah so very creepy. but interesting to read about #UFchat
12:11 am UF_Chat: I wonder if our guest got booted off for all the awesome comments? #ufchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: I will post Merrie’s website and you know where to find her on Twitter! Think we may have lost her to API limits… :( #ufchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano Thanks again for being our special guest today! We wish you every success with AFTERLIFE & hope to read more soon! #ufchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: That?s a wrap for #UFchat today! Next week is a Winter Solstice/Christmas/holiday themed #ufchat
12:13 am UF_Chat: Having a special holiday?themed #UFchat next week, then break due to public holidays and return in 2011 w many UF authors booked to Q&A!
12:13 am ladytechie: @MerrieDestefano Yes, thank you! #UFChat
12:13 am UF_Chat: Got a topic you want to chat about? Let me know! (@inkgypsy) I?ll add it to the list & maybe even bump up the chat-date for it. ? #ufchat
12:14 am UF_Chat: Some additional resources on AFTERLIFE, and life and death in urban fantasy and speculative fiction: #ufchat
12:14 am UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds: The Body?Whedon?s most powerful death portrayal was natural one (Buffy’s mom) http://bit.ly/fNtiyV #ufchat
12:14 am UF_Chat: Primer #2 for #UFchat early birds: AFTERLIFE: The Resurrection Chronicles (blurb & reviews) http://bit.ly/eK8FBe #ufchat
12:14 am J_GriffinB: And yes, thanks again @marriedestefano and thanks for hosting, @inkgypsy ! #ufchat
12:14 am UF_Chat: @MerrieDestefano?s website with info & reviews on AFTERLIFE: http://bit.ly/ijHhEW #ufchat
12:15 am UF_Chat: Speculative faith: urban fantasy – Afterlife:The Resurrection Chronicles http://bit.ly/fjbYzh #ufchat
12:15 am UF_Chat: Bringing Back the Dead ? Lame or Awesome? http://bit.ly/i0U8Gt (Thanks to @AnassaRh for this link!) #ufchat
12:15 am UF_Chat: Killing Off Characters by Nikki Mantyla http://bit.ly/faVaVI #ufchat
12:15 am UF_Chat: Gothic, Paranormal & UF for Tweens & Teens ? many recommended have ?how to cope with death? central to themes: http://bit.ly/e6Ykjn #ufchat
12:16 am UF_Chat: Buffy ?The Body? episode is a good example of how to write crying scenes (article) http://bit.ly/ia8AIZ #ufchat
12:16 am UF_Chat: Vampirology from Creation to Death & Dusting (much from Buffy but a lot in common with much UF) http://bit.ly/dHQrUh #ufchat
12:16 am UF_Chat: DVD Commentary text on Buffy series episode The Body by Joss Whedon, when her mom dies natural death http://bit.ly/gG19NL #ufchat
12:16 am UF_Chat: Humungous thnx to @Shadowflame1974, @AnassaRh & @Daylilie222 – all helped in diff ways during my fur-baby emergency this week. xx #ufchat
12:16 am UF_Chat: #UFchat transcript available on the #UFchat blog in 48hrs-ish, allowing for late comments. Just use the hashtag. ? #ufchat
12:16 am UF_Chat: Now to tally up entries & choose winner for signed copy of AFTERLIFE via random.org!! ? stick around if you want to see who won! #ufchat
12:17 am J_GriffinB: Sticking. #ufchat
12:17 am soniawrite: @MerrieDestefano – thanks for answering all the questions #UFchat
12:18 am shadowflame1974: @MerrieDestafano Thanks for the eel juggling. It was very entertaining :D #ufchat
12:18 am shadowflame1974: @InkGypsy no worries on the help hon #ufchat
12:18 am CarolynCrane: @UF_Chat This has been so interesting. Your book sounds awesome. #UFchat @MerrieDestefano
12:21 am inkgypsy: @CarolynCrane Thanks! Merrie is awesome & her writing is just lovely-beautiful words on top of gritty, xlnt story. Thx for coming! #UFchat
12:25 am Jess_Haines: Yaaay, I’m finally here! :D I hope I didn’t miss much. o.o #ufchat
12:27 am shadowflame1974: @Jess_Haines lol Just in time for the drawing :D #ufchat
12:27 am Jess_Haines: @shadowflame1974 Woot! :D #ufchat
12:35 am inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines I forgot the hashtag – oops – pls add #UFchat to your question!
12:37 am Jess_Haines: @MerrieDestefano So I didn’t get to toss a question in there–what do you consider your go-to resource RE: resurrection? Books, web? #ufchat
12:40 am inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines I have sent her a mail.. :) #UFchat
12:41 am Jess_Haines: @inkgypsy Awesome, thanks. :) Very interested in hearing what she used for research! #ufchat
12:47 am J_GriffinB: Unt ze vinner ist? #ufchat
12:50 am UF_Chat: And the winner is? (drum roll) @J_GriffinB!! Congratulations! Pls contact @MerrieDestefano w your mailing details ASAP! #UFchat
12:50 am inkgypsy: And the winner is? (drum roll) @J_GriffinB!! Congratulations! Pls contact @MerrieDestefano w your mailing details ASAP! #UFchat
12:51 am Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Congrats ! =) #ufchat
12:51 am shadowflame1974: RT @inkgypsy: And the winner is(drum roll) @J_GriffinB!! Congratulations! Pls contact @MerrieDestefano w your mailing details ASAP! #ufchat
12:51 am inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB Congratulations! Woot! #UFchat
12:51 am J_GriffinB: Thanks! Wow. #ufchat
12:52 am shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB ROFL YOU! #ufchat
12:52 am inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB Your number was 2 by the way – guess it’s lucky for you! #UFchat :)
12:52 am J_GriffinB: I’m about to #2 from excitement. #ufchat
12:53 am J_GriffinB: Schweet, though, really! #ufchat
12:53 am shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB snicker…. #ufchat
12:54 am inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB *eyeroll then throws confetti – times 2* #UFchat
12:55 am J_GriffinB: unable to find email addy for her, and she’s not following. Shall I send my physical addy to you for forwarding? #ufchat
12:56 am inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB BTW if you can’t DM Merrie let me know and I can email her your address. Alternately you can contact her on Facebook. :) #UFchat
12:56 am inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 That’s not to say I HAVE your address.. not yet anyway.. lol #UFchat
12:56 am Wulfie_: RT @UF_Chat: And the winner is? (drum roll) @J_GriffinB!! Congratulations! Pls contact @MerrieDestefano w your mailing details ASAP! #UFchat
12:57 am inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB That’s not to say I HAVE your address.. not yet anyway.. lol #UFchat
12:57 am inkgypsy: @J_GriffinB LOL Yes please – I’ll get it to her straight away. :) #UFchat
12:59 am J_GriffinB: Done. #ufchat
1:10 am soniawrite: @J_GriffinB congrats on winning the book! #UFchat
6:31 am MerrieDestefano: Thanks again to everyone who hung out at #ufchat today. :)
6:42 am MerrieDestefano: @Jess_Haines Hi! Re your question…do U mean research for the book or the resurrection process? I use the Web a lot in my research. #ufchat
6:43 am MerrieDestefano: @Jess_Haines As far as the resurrection process, I made it up. Some nuggets of science here & there, like telomeres. #ufchat
8:59 am AnassaRh: All right. Settling down for #UFChat. Suggest: Death, dying, etc. Should be interesting?
9:01 am AnassaRh: A1: Vampires, weres, zombies, ghosts. Less obviously, fake/temporary death, magical reinsertion of soul, magical loopholes. #ufchat
9:02 am AnassaRh: A1a: Depends on book. Sometimes most of it. Sometimes all of it. Usually in between somewhere. #ufchat
9:08 am AnassaRh: A2: Not offhand, no. I spy a gap in need of filling? #ufchat
9:10 am AnassaRh: A3: Violent death is more exciting? It can spur the plot, give added drive to the MC? #ufchat
9:11 am AnassaRh: Revenge, dying wishes, etc. are more powerful devices when violence factors in. Also adds grit/noir to story. #ufchat
9:13 am AnassaRh: Although “Child, I always regretted not tracking down that witch.” is equally powerful to “Child, find the werewolf that killed me.” #ufchat
9:14 am AnassaRh: Hmm. Going back to the slaying family idea from a couple weeks ago? Warriors dislike bed deaths. No honor. Same with slayers? #ufchat
9:15 am AnassaRh: Would an anti-slaying child take up arms on their parents’ dying wish? Would a slayer do everything possible to die in battle? #ufchat
9:19 am AnassaRh: Okay, now that tangent’s over? A4a: Powers are pretty much a given. Also temp disorientation, trauma, confusion, denial. #ufchat
9:20 am AnassaRh: Hey! Do resurrected monsters ever get PTSD? Esp. if a were’s conscious for the initial change? #ufchat
9:25 am AnassaRh: A6: They couldn’t stop it. It will happen again, same result. Also, if it’s death by age, there’s gradual weakening of the body. #ufchat
9:42 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh So glad you’re chiming in tonight! #UFchat Another of those topics I expected to find lots of posts on and barely found anything!
9:42 am AnassaRh: A7: Desire to humanize the monsters. Because we want to be immortal. Because UF is the anti-horror? #ufchat
9:43 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Because UF bumps back those things in the night..? ;) #UFchat
9:45 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Perhaps #ufchat will spark a rash of posts, then? I was surprised as well. I’d think a geeky lit major?
9:45 am AnassaRh: Ha, yes! RT @inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Because UF bumps back those things in the night..? ;) #UFchat
9:48 am AnassaRh: A9: Cons: You wouldn’t have the same (or any) sense memory. Might not recognize your body. Might not be recognized. Bigots. #ufchat
9:48 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh I think some aspiring UF author (who doesn’t have a billion deadlines) could easily blog daily on ideas from a weekly #UFchat!
9:49 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Ooh – totally forgot to bring up the sense memory of heart transplant patients & hand transplants too…#UFchat
9:49 am AnassaRh: A9: Perks: Young and healthy body (we hope). Fresh slate, possible new identity. #ufchat
9:50 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh .. there’s scientific evidence of ‘previous owner’s personality embedded in them – particularly heart! (Frankenstein OMG!) #UFchat
9:50 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Even in the heart? Do you have a link? That sounds cool! (Didn’t Koontz already write a book off that idea?) #ufchat
9:51 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Must ask if clones are adult, what about sense memory of ‘empty’ bodies – what would be lacking from grown from kid human? #UFchat
9:52 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Depends on type of cloning. Clone in vat from infancy? Everything. Clone in nursery? Very little, but not YOURS. #ufchat
9:53 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh ESPECIALLY the heart – artistic talent transfer, partner preference & more Medical article read. Can’t remember where… #UFchat
9:53 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy I’m assuming clone had to start as kid. Know of no scientific way to do otherwise. #ufchat
9:53 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh In AFTERLIFE the clone/download bodies are all full grown as children can’t ‘download’/be downloaded to. #UFchat
9:54 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Another question, maybe better: What would the clone have sense memory for, that the original wouldn’t? #ufchat
9:54 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Little vague on the cloning process myself – imagine tanks & vats – like the movies & X-Files. #UFchat
9:55 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Yes that too! (clone’s sense memory ADDITION to normal humans) #UFchat
9:55 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Ooh. Must look that up! Think we’ll ever do heart transplants just to get better art skills? #ufchat
9:55 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh That gets very black market super quick… *shudder* #UFchat
9:56 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy And if the clones incur some kind of trauma? An abusive nurse, maybe? #ufchat
9:56 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Makes for a great story, though, doesn’t it? #ufchat
9:56 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Fair enough. #ufchat
9:57 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Yes – would be interesting if figured out how to track sense memory!! (eek – supernatural ability alert!) #UFchat
9:57 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy As far as I understand it, human clones would be like sheep clones. Cell culture ?> test tube baby ?> child? #ufchat
9:58 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Or… now that they can just grow various body parts you could put them together… *shudders again* #UFchat
9:58 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy I think vat-clone thing can be seen as womb metaphor. Maybe even intended as such: pump nutrients in, grow clone faster. #ufchat
9:59 am AnassaRh: @inkgypsy Sorry for horrifying you so late at night. :( #ufchat
9:59 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh You kidding? I live in this universe! LOL #UFchat What do you think I think about all day/night? LOL
10:00 am inkgypsy: @AnassaRh Besides it’s early yet – sun-up a long way away… ;) #UFchat
10:07 am AnassaRh: A10: Can see life-after-death heightening life (death sux) or lowering (life not the end). #ufchat
10:08 am AnassaRh: A10: Real question is, if you become a vampire, /can/ you take it all with you? What are the legalities behind resurrection? #ufchat
6:03 pm hannahnpbowman: @inkgypsy @AnassaRh Jumping in late, but in Vorkosigan saga, clones are raised as children, then have brain transplants. #ufchat
6:04 pm hannahnpbowman: @inkgypsy @AnassaRh Old personality is destroyed, replaced by new one (of brain). Basically murder. #ufchat
6:24 pm AnassaRh: @hannahnpbowman @inkgypsy Almost forgot about the Vorkosigan saga because we were talking UF! #ufchat
6:24 pm AnassaRh: @hannahnpbowman @inkgypsy But those clones were the inspiration for my “raised as kids” comment. Feel terrible for them. Ugh. #ufchat
7:10 pm hannahnpbowman: @AnassaRh @inkgypsy I’ve still got Vorkosigans on the brain… (pun unintentional) #ufchat
8:21 pm LunaLindsey: @inkgypsy I’ve thought of using #UFchat as a resource for writing at Indie Urban Fantasy. ;)
8:24 pm LunaLindsey: @inkgypsy Real cloning isn’t too mysterious: An egg/ovum is implanted w cloned DNA, allowed to grow. No vats, just a normal baby. #UFchat
9:24 pm AnassaRh: On my blog: Trying Something New – #UFChat Recap http://bit.ly/fPaFVv
11:23 am inkgypsy: @lunalindsey Please DO use #UFchat as a resource! one of the reasons I created it is so writers could use it. :) We all want more good UF.
6:34 pm AnassaRh: RT from yesterday: Trying Something New – #UFChat Recap http://bit.ly/fPaFVv (on death in urban fantasy)
8:14 pm LunaLindsey: @inkgypsy I would participate more in #ufchat if you used something like IRC or a web-based IRC. Twitter chat is too hard to follow.
8:15 pm LunaLindsey: @inkgypsy As for skimming transcripts for blog ideas, ok! Will do. Will also try to credit and link when appropriate. :) #UFchat
8:35 pm LunaLindsey: #UFChat recap and musings on death in Urban Fantasy at Specnology blog: http://bit.ly/hTlUSx
December 15, 2010
12:09 am jimnduncan: #ufchat death in uf to me is more interesting looking at the other side, ie what possibilities lie beyond the living world.
December 16, 2010
8:14 am AnassaRh: Excellent post by @nkjemisin on breaking female stereotypes, women warriors, and gender policing. A must read. http://bit.ly/f2eOr9 #ufchat
8:22 am jolantru: RT @AnassaRh: Excellent post by @nkjemisin on breaking female stereotypes, women warriors, and gender policing. A must read. http://bit.ly/f2eOr9 #ufchat
December 17, 2010
2:10 am MerrieDestefano: @soniawrite Oh, was that from the #UFchat? I think I forgot to use the hashtag.
1:46 pm shevdon: Writing three-dimensional characters for UF and other genres – How? New article at http://shevdon.com/ #ufchat #writing #writechat
2:06 pm sfbook: RT @shevdon: Writing three-dimensional characters for UF and other genres – How? New article at http://shevdon.com/ #ufchat #writing #writechat

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END OF TRANSCRIPT FOR DECEMBER 11th, 2010

Next week (December 18th) is a Winter Solstice/Christmas/holiday themed #ufchat along with LOTS OF GIFTS FOR YOU! (It’s also our last chat for the year before we take a break during the public holidays.)

See you next week and bring your google-fu – gifts will be found via ‘google scavenger hunts’ – so bring boots, googles and any other kickin’ equipment to give you the edge you need… books up for grabs – all UF! (& most with a little seasonal ‘kick’ to boot ;) – will be tweeted before the event!

Stay tuned to @UF_Chat on Twitter for countdowns, updates, pre-chat primers (especially important for your google-fu-ing by the way) and a glimpse at the prize bag before you go hunting.

Gypsy (@inkgypsy)

Please note: I plan to pull out these questions & answers for a separate post but (as you might have deduced from this late posting of the transcript) life has gotten crazy-busy beyond the normal Christmas-season stuff so I’m not sure when I’ll get to it… In the meantime, hopefully the color coding will make for easier reading/tracking of the Q&A. :)

Recommended Read: “Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles” by Merrie Destefano

Title: Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles
Author: Merrie Destefano (@MerrieDestefano on Twitter)
Type of UF: Futuristic/UF, noir, mystery, thrilling, adventure
Paranormal Element/ Creatures: Resurrection, Heaven/Hell
Publisher: US – Eos (Harper Collins imprint)
Release Date/s: September 28, 2010
Back Cover Copy:

WELCOME TO YOUR NEXT CHANCE.

Chaz Domingue works as a professional Babysitter in New Orleans. His job is to integrate and protect the recently deceased into their new and improved lives—a position he reluctantly accepted after his father was murdered. Though Fresh Start has always been the only game in town, resurrection isn’t what it’s cracked up to be. Nine lives are all a person can get—and a powerful group of desperate, high-level Nine-Timers will stop at nothing to possess the keys to true immortality. Unfortunately, this places Chaz at the lethal center of a maelstrom.

Now the only hope for Chaz and his family—and the ultimate fate of the human race—is secretly locked away in the mind of Angelique, the beautiful, mysterious Newbie who’s been entrusted to Chaz’s care…

From Harper Collins:

“A haunting story that seamlessly blends the hard-boiled twists of cyberpunk with the noir flavor of a Southern Gothic thriller. Gritty and compelling….Truly high octane stuff.”
—Marc Giller, author of Hammerjack
Bladerunner meets Jim Butcher in Afterlife, a thrilling urban fantasy noir adventure set in an alternate world where everyone gets nine lives. In the vein of J. D. Robb’s bestselling ‘In Death’ series, author Merrie Destefano blends a futuristic concept with gritty noir mystery for a riveting story of murder, conspiracy, and multiple-resurrections that will appeal equally to fantasy, science fiction, and mystery fans. Even paranormal romance lovers will find something to love in Destefano’s extraordinary Afterlife.

InkGypsy’s Amazon review:

I agree with Book Faery & SciFiChick – dark, mysterious, complex, riveting and steeped in the aura of New Orleans… and I too was happily speechless on finishing.

You have to read Ms. Destefano’s New Orleans based, futuristic urban fantasy “Afterlife” – beautiful, lush writing with that wonderful sense of immediacy and wit we love in UF! It’s an ode to the city and to hope and you won’t be able to put it down till you’re done – a stunning debut!

It’s #UFchat’s* recommended read for the end of 2010 and we can’t wait to speak to Ms. Destefano about how she built and crafted this wonderful novel, with its very real and complex characters, twisted mysteries, wonder-full urban darkness and the cities of the dead.

I only have one question: can we have more please?!

Interested? Want a taste of what we’re all raving about? Here’s the trailer:

You can read CHAPTER ONE HERE.

Join us for a special Q&A with author Merrie Destefano on December 11th, 2010.

We’ll be giving away a special signed copy of her book to chat participants! For automatic entry, just ask Merrie a question during the chat. See you on Saturday!

Gypsy (@InkGypsy)

Transcript for December 4th, 2010: The Human Factor in UF MCs

This week’s TOPIC: The Human Factor – from mundane human to magical hybrid: how human are/do you want our UF MCs to be – really?

We look at just how human UF MCs really are. Are they as much like us as we think they are? Do we really want them to be? Are they really just like us but with xtra-great boots & xtra-fast sass? The human side of our MCs – what makes them like us?

Official UFchat questions in YELLOW for easier reading.

Resources/ topic-related links are in BLUE.

10:29 pm sandrawickham: RT @shadowflame1974: 30 minutes to chat time. How human are UF MCs? Come join us in the discussion #UFchat
10:30 pm inkgypsy: #Ufchat people alert! RT @Jess_Haines: Woo hoo! Finally put up a new blog post. Obits, free books, giveaways, more… http://bit.ly/hP28GA
10:33 pm shadowflame1974: RT: @inkgypsy: #Ufchat people alert! RT @Jess_Haines!Finally put up a new blog post. Obits, free books, giveaways, more http://bit.ly/hP28GA
10:42 pm shadowflame1974: 20 minutes! Is being human enough? This weeks discussion: The Human Factor- how human are UF MCs. come join us #UFchat
10:43 pm inkgypsy: @Ben_Aaronovitch Primer for #UFchat procrastin-early birds: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat
10:45 pm inkgypsy: Do you like reading UF from Frankenstein’s POV? His monster’s POV? Who do you relate to more? The Human Factor in UF – #UFchat in 15 mins!
10:45 pm UF_Chat: Do you like reading UF from Frankenstein’s POV? His monster’s POV? Who do you relate to more? The Human Factor in UF – #UFchat in 15 mins!
10:45 pm shadowflame1974: RT @inkgypsy: @Ben_Aaronovitch Primer for #UFchat procrastin-early birds: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat
10:50 pm inkgypsy: Primer for #UFchat early birds: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat
10:50 pm UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat
10:50 pm shadowflame1974: RT @UF_Chat: Primer for #UFchat early birds: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat
10:51 pm inkgypsy: Changing to my #UFchat moderator boots & swapping zombie brain for thinking cap. See you at #UFchat in 10 – no 9! – minutes!
10:51 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: #UFchat Quick Robin – to the coffee cave!
10:52 pm shadowflame1974: 10 minutes folks! grab your hats we are going on a wild ride today! Is being HUMAN enough to beat the monsters share your thoughts #UFchat
10:52 pm inkgypsy: @RCMurphy Are you joining us in #UFchat today? ;)
10:53 pm inkgypsy: RT @shadowflame1974: 10 minutes folks! grab your hats we are going on a wild ride today! Is being HUMAN enough to beat the monsters share your thoughts #UFchat
10:53 pm leapetra: I think I will actually make it to the chat today! #ufchat
10:53 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra awesome! #UFchat
10:53 pm rcmurphy: @inkgypsy I would if I had more braincells. One of my UF novels does have a human MC. But I’m about ready to nap at my desk. lol #UFchat
10:54 pm shadowflame1974: @rcmurphy awww hugs hon. #UFchat
10:54 pm inkgypsy: @RCMurphy It’s not really about humans so much as how we humans relate to the non humans we write. ;) (oops – gave it away) #UFchat
10:55 pm Preternatural__: Never stopped in, but @inkgypsy s a sweetheart so, I can’t resist :) #UFchat
10:56 pm shadowflame1974: @Preternatural__ hey welcome! #UFchat
10:57 pm UF_Chat: TODAY: The Human Factor – from mundane human to magical hybrid: how human are/do you want our UF MCs to be – really? #UFchat
10:57 pm inkgypsy: TODAY: The Human Factor – from mundane human to magical hybrid: how human are/do you want our UF MCs to be – really? #UFchat
10:57 pm rcmurphy: @inkgypsy *snorts* I’m one with the monsters, dude. It’s harder for me to write plain ol’ humans. #UFchat
10:57 pm J_GriffinB: Here…and hankering… #ufchat
10:58 pm UF_Chat: Do our MCs stand out from crowd b/c they’re the humans we WANT to be or b/c they’re MORE? UF MCs & being human TODAY #UFchat
10:58 pm inkgypsy: Do our MCs stand out from crowd b/c they’re the humans we WANT to be or b/c they’re MORE? UF MCs & being human TODAY #UFchat
10:58 pm inkgypsy: @RCMurphy My point exactly. ;) #UFchat
10:59 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: My MC is human – he just came out that way. #UFchat
10:59 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy the ones I write about, they try to separate themselves from humans. #ufchat
10:59 pm shadowflame1974: @rcmurphy we all write monsters, just sometimes they are hidden in with the sheep ;) #UFchat
11:00 pm inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 baaa! #UFchat (That wasn’t me – it was the sheep behind me)
11:00 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra Interesting how we (both sides) have insistence on segregation.. #UFchat
11:00 pm UF_Chat: 3, 2… & now live with #UFchat! Standing out from the crowd are our UF MCs ? is it because they?re a little bit more than human? #UFchat
11:01 pm shadowflame1974: @inkgypsy lol #UFchat
11:01 pm leapetra: @inkgypsy one of my MC’s became upset, because he became attracted to a woman. It unnerved him. #ufchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: TODAY: We look at just how human UF MCs really are. Are they as much like us as we think they are? Do we really want them to be? #UFchat
11:01 pm UF_Chat: Are they really just like us but with xtra-great boots & xtra-fast sass? The human side of our MCs ? what makes them like us? #UFchat
11:01 pm inkgypsy: @leapetra I like that! #UFchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: Reminder: ?S? stands for statement, which will be followed by a ?Q? (a related #UFchat question for discussion). #UFchat
11:02 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: The monster/human line can be very blurry in my stuff #UFchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: I just got a message Twitter went down but I’m back! #UFchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: Q1: Consider the ?big?/most longtime-popular UF series. Are the MCs all-human, part-human or not-at-all-human? #UFchat
11:02 pm J_GriffinB: #UFChat starting now! @Karen_Hooper @saramcclung @gina_penn @cvaldezmiller #UFChat starting now! #ufchat
11:02 pm UF_Chat: S: I?ll post an author & their series & you guys fill in the MCs (not just lead character) – name + humans/part-humans/etc #UFchat
11:03 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: A fantastic person in a mundane world is fun but so is a mundane person in a fantastic world. #UFchat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: Please note: chosen/magical destiny/enhanced abilities due to such does NOT equal 100% human. #UFchat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: Kim Harrison?s The Hollows series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: Jim Butcher?s Dresden Files: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: Patricia Briggs? Mercedes Thompson series:MCs & how human are they? #UFchat
11:03 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat Dresden: the Wizards are not entirely human #UFchat
11:03 pm UF_Chat: Kelley Armstrong?s Women of the Otherworld: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: Carrie Vaughn?s Kitty Norville series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: Rob Thurman?s Cal Leandros series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: Charlaine Harris? Sookie Stackhouse series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:04 pm shadowflame1974: Mercedes Thompson- half human skinwalker #UFchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: Ilona Andrews? Kate Daniels series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:04 pm UF_Chat: Vicki Pettersson?s Signs of the Zodiac series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:04 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Hi everyone, I’m new here so I just wanted to introduce myself. *waves* #UFchat
11:05 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: God there are so many series I haven’t had time to read yet! #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: Simon R. Green?s Nightside series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: Rachel Caine?s Weather Warden series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:05 pm shadowflame1974: @sandrawickham hey hon! Welcome! #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: @sandrawickham Welcome! Jump in. :) #UFchat
11:05 pm shadowflame1974: @Ben_Aaronovitch I KNOW! lol #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: Laurell K. Hamilton?s Anita Blake series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: Joss Whedon?s Buffy the Vampire Slayer series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:05 pm leapetra: @sandrawickham HI #ufchat
11:05 pm UF_Chat: Lilith Saintcrow?s Jill Kismet & Dante Valentine series: who are main characters & how human are they? #UFchat
11:06 pm UF_Chat: Q1a: What other big UF series characters spring to mind and how human are they? #UFchat
11:06 pm shadowflame1974: Believe that the MC on the Vicki Peterson’s books was human but I could be wrong. #UFchat
11:07 pm UF_Chat: @Ben_Aaronovitch One of the reasons I’m posting a selection – rarely meet someone who’s read even all the big ones. So many! #UFchat
11:07 pm shadowflame1974: @cemurphy Walker Papers Human with destiny. Not completely human #UFchat
11:07 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: S1a shevdens 61 nails has a human MC who rapidly becomes non-human. #UFchat
11:07 pm sandrawickham: @shadowflame1974 They’re all super heroes (either dark or light) in Vicki Petersson’s series. So, human with super powers. #ufchat
11:07 pm NLGervasio: has errands to run and will miss #UFchat AGAIN! Crap.
11:07 pm UF_Chat: @shadowflame1974 Well – no actually. She was a ‘something’ she got from her mother & her father too – passed it on to her daughter.. #UFchat
11:07 pm leapetra: @UF_Chat except for Angel, Oz, Spike, and the demon whose name escapes me. all were human #ufchat
11:08 pm UF_Chat: @NLGervasio :( mIss ya! Be safe. #UFchat
11:08 pm J_GriffinB: @leapetra Not if a destiny applies… #ufchat
11:08 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra Buffy wasn’t – chosen & given special powers but her Scoobies mostly were. #UFchat
11:08 pm shadowflame1974: I only got a bit through the first book b4 I had to give it back. lol #UFchat
11:08 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Kim Harrison – Witch, Vampire, Pixie..and werewolf. I’d say her characters are still very “human” though. #ufchat
11:09 pm J_GriffinB: I’m remarkably under-read in the genre. #ufchat
11:09 pm shadowflame1974: so perhaps it is safe to say that Most, UF MCs are a little more than human #UFchat
11:09 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: I remember there being a really good speech about destiny in ‘He Man: the Movie’ of all things. #UFchat
11:09 pm NLGervasio: But that doesn’t mean you can’t join! *winks* #UFchat! TODAY: The Human Factor – how human are UF MCs – really? Just started!!! GO!
11:09 pm UF_Chat: I should repost 1a. Q1a: What other big UF series characters spring to mind and how human are they? #UFchat
11:09 pm J_GriffinB: @sandrawickham That’s the thing, I think. Regardless of the supernatural, all the best fiction illuminates the human condition. #ufchat
11:10 pm Jinxie_G: RT @NLGervasio: But that doesn’t mean you can’t join! *winks* #UFchat! TODAY: The Human Factor – how human are UF MCs – really? Just started!!! GO!
11:10 pm shadowflame1974: @Ben_Aaronovitch oh really? much as I hate to go back to that, will have to look it up #UFchat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: @Ben_Aaronovitch You saw that? (S’ok – I know people who worked on it) #UFchat
11:10 pm leapetra: What I like about Buffy is when Oz found out he was a werewolf, he was the same, no flip out #ufchat
11:10 pm UF_Chat: @shadowflame1974 Interesting – no? #UFchat
11:10 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Kat Richardson’s Greywalker series, main character is human, but has died. Other than that, very human. #ufchat
11:10 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat Saw it I stole ideas from it #UFchat
11:10 pm shadowflame1974: @UF_Chat very much so. :D #UFchat
11:11 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra I liked that too – didn’t transform his essential self. just another dimension to his Oz-ness. :) #UFchat
11:11 pm UF_Chat: @sandrawickham She can see ghosts though, right? (been a while) #UFchat
11:12 pm UF_Chat: Q2: Are there any 100% human/not ?chosen?/no special abilities main characters in the most popular UF series? #UFchat
11:12 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat She sees into the “grey”, so she can see vampires, ghosts etc, yes. #ufchat
11:13 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat Xander #UFchat
11:13 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Q2 @dianarowland has a main character who is human, but can summon demons, because she’s learned how. Does that count? #ufchat
11:13 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Not usually. Most 100%ers are victims in waiting. #ufchat
11:13 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat Sorry S2: Xander #UFchat
11:13 pm inkgypsy: @sara_UFblog Hi! We’re having #UFchat right now if you’d like to take a peek. Talking about human factor in UF today. :)
11:14 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @inkgypsy Q2: Does Haven count? #UFchat
11:14 pm shadowflame1974: @sandrawickham she’s got a special power… yep it counts lol #UFchat
11:14 pm inkgypsy: @Ben_Aaronovitch Um… I cannot remember! (cringe face) #UFchat
11:15 pm UF_Chat: S: The ?big? MCs of Urban Fantasy are – for the most part – not completely human yet one of the big ?draws? people cite of UF… #UFchat
11:15 pm leapetra: xander is the best one. He stopped Willow from destroying the world, just by talking to her! #ufchat
11:15 pm UF_Chat: S cont: … is the human factor/characters holding their own against the supernatural. #UFchat
11:15 pm UF_Chat: Q3: What is considered ?human? in UF? #UFchat
11:16 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Warlock was a film that had some 100%ers as MC. #ufchat
11:16 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra Season 6 was incredibly dark but had some of the best stuff. Willow insane baddie. Xander powerful 100% human. #UFchat
11:16 pm shadowflame1974: Q3 plain old vanilla humans. no extra powers. #UFchat
11:16 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @J_GriffinB Richard E. Grant #ufchat
11:16 pm shadowflame1974: Man I SOOO need to watch Buffy #UFchat
11:17 pm Preternatural__: I think that the struggle is mostly to see that the paranormal doesn’t swallow the human aspect of the characters whole #UFchat
11:17 pm UF_Chat: Q3a: What qualities make a character MORE human than not? #UFchat
11:17 pm jennspiller: @UF_Chat @leapetra I just watched all my favorite season 6 eps. It is my fav season. Love the dark. #UFchat
11:17 pm J_GriffinB: @Ben_Aaronovitch @J_GriffinB Pardon? #ufchat
11:18 pm leapetra: In my books I have one human with no special powers, unless you can count building a motorcycle one #ufchat
11:18 pm jennspiller: Weakness. Insecurity. Mistakes. RT @UF_Chat: Q3a: What qualities make a character MORE human than not? #UFchat
11:18 pm shadowflame1974: @Preternatural__ exactly #UFchat
11:18 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @J_GriffinB Warlock: w/ Julian Sands and Richard E. Grant #ufchat
11:18 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A3a: Weakness, and inability to pull their head from their ass. #ufchat
11:18 pm kltworld: RT @Preternatural__: I think that the struggle is mostly to see that the paranormal doesn’t swallow the human aspect of the characters whole #UFchat
11:18 pm UF_Chat: @shadowflame1974 It’s the no extra powers that gets tricky – still tend to at least give MCs major kickassitude- just isn’t normal. #UFchat
11:18 pm shadowflame1974: @jennspiller things we as plain old humans can relate to #UFchat
11:19 pm UF_Chat: RT @Preternatural__: I think that the struggle is mostly to see that the paranormal doesn’t swallow the human aspect of the characters whole #UFchat
11:19 pm jennspiller: @shadowflame1974 Netflix streaming! #UFchat
11:19 pm UF_Chat: Q3b: What human qualities do you think are important to have for an MC to relate to the reader? #UFchat
11:19 pm leapetra: A human character uses their head a lot more than the other ones. #ufchat
11:20 pm shadowflame1974: @UF_Chat sure they could be kick ass, but w/o magic assistance or shape changing. I know Kick ass Humans! they ROCK #UFchat
11:20 pm J_GriffinB: @Ben_Aaronovitch A2 Thanks, I forgot actor. Great movie. He had some lore to counter the Warlock, but anyone could use it. #ufchat
11:20 pm jessrosenbooks: #UFchat (comment from lurkage) A paranormal char seems more human when s/he is in conflict w/para abilities. Doesn’t want them.
11:21 pm inkgypsy: #UFchat Thx! (Frankenstein related for chat people) RT @Preternatural__: @inkgypsy Found it finally, Haunted Summer: http://imdb.to/gL7jhz
11:21 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra lol not always. Sometimes it is stupid mistakes by plain humans or others for that matter that save the day. #UFchat
11:21 pm UF_Chat: Q4: Back to the lack of 100% human MCs. Why do you think most UF MCs are not, in fact, 100% human? #UFchat
11:21 pm sandrawickham: @jessrosenbooks Exellent point! Also, when they have “normal” flaws (insecurity, commitment issues etc) #ufchat
11:21 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: S3: the viability of human cjaracters depends, a bit, on the power level of the supernatural elements #ufchat
11:21 pm jennspiller: I agree RT @jessrosenbooks: #UFchat paranormal char seems more human when s/he is in conflict w/para abilities. Doesn’t want them.
11:22 pm inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines :) (PS We’re in the middle of #UFchat right now if you wanted to peek – no guest author today but still good urban fantasychat)
11:22 pm leapetra: @shadowflame1974 so plain old luck saves the day!!! #ufchat
11:22 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A4: The perceived requirements of genre, for the most part. #ufchat
11:22 pm shadowflame1974: @leapetra on occasion :D #UFchat
11:22 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra aka Deus Ex Machina? #UFchat
11:23 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB Appreciate you throwing the ‘perceived’ in there. :) #UFchat
11:23 pm shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB so do you think that a UF could have a plain human MC in a magic rich world? #UFchat
11:23 pm UF_Chat: Q5: What?s the attraction of reading (and writing) an MC who isn?t completely ?normal?? #UFchat
11:23 pm Jess_Haines: #UFchat Howdy, everyone! What’d I miss so far?
11:23 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: S4: the writer might just like writing non-humans #ufchat
11:24 pm shadowflame1974: Q5 you can go anywhere with it. Few boundaries. #UFchat
11:24 pm J_GriffinB: @shadowflame1974 Indeed. A pariah due to the absence of power. #ufchat
11:24 pm UF_Chat: Q6: What is ?normal? anyway as far as human main characters in UF goes? #UFchat
11:25 pm shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB now that is an interesting concept. discrimination of those with no power maybe? #UFchat
11:25 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Q5a: For the fun of it! (especially in writing it) LOL. It’s part of the fantasy, the escape. #ufchat
11:25 pm jennspiller: re: Q5 Limitless possibilities in the story #UFchat
11:25 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Hi! (this is @inkgypsy with mod hat on) Seen how most UF MCs not 100%plain vanilla human – looking at why. :) #UFchat
11:25 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A5: Again it’s about getting away from the halitosis and bills of everyday life. #ufchat
11:25 pm shadowflame1974: Q6 most of the time more than the normal amount of knowledge, weapon/military/police training, some sort of magic #UFchat
11:26 pm jennspiller: Isn’t that kind of like Frodo? He’s tiny, but he’s not magic, right? @shadowflame1974 @J_GriffinB #UFchat
11:26 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB You are SO asking for bots! LOL #UFchat
11:26 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Thank you! Hehe, wonder if I’ll be a bit biased considering the MC of my series is human. #UFchat
11:26 pm UF_Chat: S: Classic fantasy hero = chosen/predestined. Classic UF MC less so but is still prevalent, often being the 1 person standing… #UFchat
11:26 pm J_GriffinB: @shadowflame1974 Yes. Perhaps magic spreads a sickness that only the pariah can deal with. #ufchat
11:26 pm UF_Chat: S cont: ? b/w humankind & apocalypse of sorts. Even if MCs not hybrid often magically predestined & given a unique ability or two. #UFchat
11:26 pm shadowflame1974: @jennspiller yea but in a UF setting not an epic fantasy. #UFchat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Do chime in! Not predestined or has xtra abilities given/learned? (Your bk is on TBR pile very near top!) #UFchat
11:27 pm shadowflame1974: @Jess_Haines completely human? Let’s hear more #UFchat
11:27 pm jennspiller: @shadowflame1974 I’m now racking my brain for a UF character that fits the bill. #UFchat
11:27 pm Jess_Haines: Q6: I think it depends on the series. Harry Dresden is basically human because he has so many problems and such. He still (cont) #UFchat
11:27 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines I do love you set your series around an actual disaster & didn’t flinch from it. Lots of human quandries in there. #UFchat
11:28 pm jennspiller: @Jess_Haines But, Dresden seems to get more and more magical as time goes on. #UFchat
11:28 pm Jess_Haines: has to pay rent, get his car fixed, and eat/sleep like the rest of us. He just happens to have extra powers to help him. #UFchat
11:28 pm J_GriffinB: @jennspiller But he’s not human. Indeed, their resistance to the corruption of magic is a reason Gandalf has for using Halflings #ufchat
11:28 pm UF_Chat: Let me do the statements again before Q 7. #UFchat
11:28 pm UF_Chat: S: Classic fantasy hero = chosen/predestined. Classic UF MC less so but is still prevalent, often being the 1 person standing… #UFchat
11:28 pm Jess_Haines: @jennspiller True, particularly after CHANGES. But he’s basically human in the early books. #UFchat
11:28 pm jennspiller: @Jess_Haines One of the things I like about Dresden is that the extra powers don’t help him with the real life stuff. #UFchat
11:29 pm UF_Chat: S cont: ? b/w humankind & apocalypse of sorts. Even if MCs not hybrid often magically predestined & given a unique ability or two. #UFchat
11:29 pm UF_Chat: Q7: Why is there a tendency to have the MC be ?special? ? esp when readers say they like MCs to be human like they are? #UFchat
11:29 pm shadowflame1974: @jennspiller extra powers aren’t a fix for everything. More often more of a complication #UFchat
11:30 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Thank you! Shiarra is def. not predestined, extra powers, etc. Plain, ol’, vanilla human. She is actually terrified(cont) #UFchat
11:30 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Liked that he started very human too – even wizarding aspects were a real/obvious struggle-not natural. Kinda miss it. #UFchat
11:30 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A7 ‘Cause everyone wants to think they too are special. #ufchat
11:30 pm jennspiller: @J_GriffinB Thanks for clarification. It’s sacriledge, I know, but I haven’t read LOTR. Too many reasons to go into here. #ufchat
11:30 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat of all things supernatural (aka, “Others” in my ‘verse). #UFchat
11:30 pm leapetra: Q7 The “outsider” image. Everyone feels like they are an outsider, The non human MC is an outsider too #ufchat
11:30 pm starshinedown: Following the discussion in #UFchat. It’s interesting stuff. If you read, write, or want to write urban fantasy, come read!
11:30 pm shadowflame1974: Q7 much harder for writer to even out the field between human and monsters when all the human has to fight with is a stick. #UFchat
11:31 pm jennspiller: RT @starshinedown: Following the discussion in #UFchat. It’s interesting stuff. If you read, write, or want to write urban fantasy, come on!
11:31 pm Jess_Haines: @jennspiller Exactly, he’s still got problems–just like the rest of us. #UFchat
11:31 pm UF_Chat: RT @starshinedown: Following the discussion in #UFchat. It’s interesting stuff. If you read, write, or want to write urban fantasy, come read!
11:31 pm inkgypsy: RT @starshinedown: Following the discussion in #UFchat. It’s interesting stuff. If you read, write, or want to write urban fantasy, come read!
11:31 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Yeah, but like anyone else, he’s grown over time. I think that’s what makes him so great to read. #UFchat
11:32 pm UF_Chat: Q8: What are the advantages ? story wise – of writing an MC with extra abilities? #UFchat
11:32 pm Jess_Haines: RT @starshinedown: Following the discussion in #UFchat. It’s interesting stuff. If you read, write, or want to write urban fantasy, come read!
11:32 pm shadowflame1974: writer has to find creative ways to keep plain human alive in a fight. Easy way is to give them special powers #UFchat
11:32 pm UF_Chat: Q8a: What are the disadvantages ? story wise – of writing an ?enhanced? MC? #UFchat
11:32 pm JLCoburn: A7 What @shadowflame1974 plus, a bit of fantasy writers being more than they are I think #ufchat
11:32 pm Jess_Haines: @shadowflame1974 Tell me about it. *g* #UFchat
11:32 pm J_GriffinB: @shadowflame1974 I go back to Warlock. Witch hunter uses knowledge of witchery to counter the magic, not quite magic-use for him. #ufchat
11:33 pm JLCoburn: A8 They’re less squishy and less prone to getting hurt so you can amp up the excitement and it still be believable. #ufchat
11:33 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Q7: Disadvantage is a risk of alienating your readers due to too much Sue-ishness. #UFchat
11:33 pm Jess_Haines: D’oh, meant Q8. #UFchat
11:33 pm UF_Chat: Q9: Love interests of the MC are often more than human too. Why do UF MCs tend to have more-than-human partners/lovers? #UFchat
11:33 pm leapetra: Q8a that special ability, could end up being a crutch. #ufchat
11:34 pm Jess_Haines: Or did I mean 7? Dang it, need more coffee. #UFchat
11:34 pm J_GriffinB: A8: An in-built mystery aspect to them? #ufchat
11:34 pm shadowflame1974: disadvantage is also putting limits on what your MC can do. can’t give them god powers. Much too easy and unbelievable #UFchat
11:34 pm JLCoburn: A8a Well, you have to now account for those abilities, make them consistent. If its a major focus inconsistencies will be amplified. #ufchat
11:34 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A9: Again, to resist the squish factor posed by super enemies handily. #ufchat
11:35 pm jennspiller: @shadowflame1974 True. No god powers. Bigger the power, the bigger the handicap for the power needs to be. #UFchat
11:35 pm inkgypsy: @shadowflame1974 Recently read fun book that had to stop as MC was told was turning into a God. I lost interest completely. #UFchat
11:35 pm UF_Chat: Q9a: The UF MC lovers are often also more-than-average supernaturals too. (eg alphas, leaders) Why is that? #UFchat
11:35 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: S: imight be interesting to distinguish between those who have ‘professional’ powers (dresden et al) and… #ufchat
11:35 pm J_GriffinB: @jennspiller Well you can give them god-like powers, if the god isn’t a omnipotent one. A war god can’t bring rain for the crops. #ufchat
11:36 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: S (cont) …people whos very existance is defined by their powers. #ufchat
11:36 pm jennspiller: @inkgypsy Only way I could see “turning into a god” as working would be if it required HUGE sacrifice, and no choice. #UFchat
11:36 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB LOL You’re very visceral. Perfect for a UF writer. ;) I like seeing the senses get used. #UFchat
11:36 pm sandrawickham: @J_GriffinB LOL. If he’s not superhuman she’s going to squish him? (or he, her) I know what you mean, it’s just funneh! ;) #ufchat
11:36 pm Jess_Haines: @jennspiller @shadowflame1974 Can also mean a lack of interest from readers due to no believable opponents. #UFchat
11:36 pm shadowflame1974: @jennspiller *nods* #UFchat
11:37 pm leapetra: Gods can be fun. if you do them right #ufchat
11:37 pm UF_Chat: @jennspiller Yes – but then they come back which kind of says it wasn’t such a big deal after all (this is the UF book BTW) #UFchat
11:37 pm jennspiller: @leapetra If the whole world is gods, then I could go there. #ufchat
11:37 pm hannahnpbowman: Popping in to #ufchat for a minute: re Q8, superhuman abilities have to be balanced with unusual weaknesses, but that combo can be cool.
11:37 pm Jess_Haines: @leapetra I prefer them as antagonists over protags. #UFchat
11:37 pm JLCoburn: A9a Again I think its mostly writer influenced. What super MC would want a norm love. Look how many women Batman has gone through. #ufchat
11:37 pm shadowflame1974: and hey, the SO has to be able to handle life with an other MC. It’s not easy being special lol #UFchat
11:37 pm Jess_Haines: @shadowflame1974 LOL, yeah! #UFchat
11:38 pm UF_Chat: @leapetra Think the Greeks/Romans had the right idea – fallible – like superhumans w equal allies/foes to even playing field. #UFchat
11:38 pm leapetra: Zeus chased women, Loki was a thorn in Odin’s side, there are so much you can do with gods #ufchat
11:38 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat And yet, I don’t write UF. #ufchat
11:38 pm UF_Chat: Q10: Man vs supernatural is one of the classic conflicts. When MC more-than-human what?s human element that?s important for this? #UFchat
11:38 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat And that was what I was getting at with the War god unable to make it rain… unless it’s blood. #ufchat
11:39 pm shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB rubs hands together* oh but I know wheels are turning #UFchat
11:39 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Q10: I think the MC has to have human fallibility in terms of personality or it just doesn’t work. #UFchat
11:39 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB Nice! Gods with limits. :) #UFchat
11:39 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB Maybe you should (write UF) ;) I’d read it. #UFchat
11:39 pm GeneDoucette: really really brief drop-in #ufchat
11:40 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Personality – you mean decision making? Morals? ….? #UFchat
11:40 pm shadowflame1974: @GeneDoucette *waves* #UFchat
11:40 pm J_GriffinB: @Jess_Haines Yep. Pull thy head from thy ass, or the love of your life is going to fly away (literally)! #ufchat
11:40 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines (Agree – just trying to keep everyone’s head-wheels turning) #UFchat
11:40 pm GeneDoucette: Just to say I have a nonmagical MC with “magical” creatures he has to outlast. (he’s immortal) #ufchat
11:40 pm UF_Chat: @GeneDoucette Hi! #UFchat
11:40 pm GeneDoucette: I simplified things. The world they inhabit has no magic. #ufchat
11:41 pm UF_Chat: @GeneDoucette Immortal is magical though… just sayin’ #UFchat
11:41 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat They can’t be “perfect” in every way. Morally or otherwise, they make mistakes or have to live in the “real” world (cont) #UFchat
11:41 pm UF_Chat: @GeneDoucette Well immortal is not 100% human anyway. #UFchat
11:41 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Thanks but I’m happy in my Policeprocedural/mystery/militarySF non-genre. The agent just submitted my book this last week. #ufchat
11:41 pm leapetra: in a story still buried on my hard drive. An atheist gets god like powers. Still won’t accept there are gods #ufchat
11:41 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat and deal with “real” problems, e.g., like what I mentioned about Dresden earlier. #UFchat
11:41 pm JLCoburn: Q10 A super MC runs the risk of getting disconnected from the norms. Prime example taken to an extreme would be Dr Manhattan #ufchat
11:41 pm GeneDoucette: @UF_Chat No. He’s not. Immortal has no magic in it. the MC is not magic #ufchat
11:41 pm shadowflame1974: morals is what is going to complicate the MCs life. the ability to create and carry out a plan will make them succeed. #UFchat
11:41 pm GeneDoucette: @UF_Chat and he is defined as completely human #ufchat
11:42 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Look at Rachel Morgan from the Hollows series. She is constantly dealing with the personality conflicts between (cont) #UFchat
11:42 pm J_GriffinB: @JLCoburn Thought of the exact same character. #ufchat
11:42 pm GeneDoucette: I just wanted to say sometimes redefining the universe for the char is the easiest solution. instead of giving the MC powers, #ufchat
11:42 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @J_GriffinB Good luck #ufchat
11:42 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Yes! Perfect heroes = yawn-worthy. But some UF I’ve read comes close. Takes more than sassy mouth to be imperfect. #UFchat
11:42 pm GeneDoucette: give the “magical” creatures less power. #ufchat
11:43 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat herself, Ivy, and Jenks. They are all powerful beings in their own right, but they still have things to worry about (cont) #UFchat
11:43 pm leapetra: in a story still buried on my hard drive. An atheist gets god like powers. Still won’t accept there are gods #ufchat
11:43 pm jennspiller: @Jess_Haines @UF_Chat I adore Rachel Morgan. And Ivy, and Jenks. They are great examples of awesome sidekicks. #UFchat
11:43 pm UF_Chat: @GeneDoucette Sorry – should have said not human instead of magic. Humans are not immortal – gives him options humans don’t have. #UFchat
11:43 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat like Ivy’s cravings for Rachel’s blood, Jenks ‘s wife growing old/dying, Rachel dealing with the stigma of her (cont) #UFchat
11:43 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Sassy mouth just makes you want to slap them. Sassy mouth when it’s called for is fun, though. #ufchat
11:43 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat demon mark, etc. OK, I think I’m finally done. :D #UFchat
11:44 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Particularly like Jenks! #UFchat
11:44 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @leapetra Well of course he doesn’t – now he knows for sure #ufchat
11:44 pm GeneDoucette: @UF_Chat that’s a fair point, yes. But his survival hinges more on his knowledge. #ufchat
11:44 pm JLCoburn: .@J_GriffinB Superman shows if off a bit too in his ‘must protect everyone’ moments, but he was raised while developing his powers #ufchat
11:44 pm GeneDoucette: OK gotta run. Out to the mall. Would rather stay… #ufchat
11:44 pm Jess_Haines: @jennspiller Totally! :D #UFchat
11:44 pm UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB Yes – gets boring when is only language they speak but used well = super-fun! #UFchat
11:44 pm J_GriffinB: @GeneDoucette A point I was trying to get at with references to Warlock and the witch hunter. #ufchat
11:44 pm leapetra: @Ben_Aaronovitch hehe Yup #ufchat
11:44 pm UF_Chat: @GeneDoucette *waves* Thanks for popping in! #UFchat
11:45 pm UF_Chat: S: UF is closely related to horror in many aspects particularly re ?human survives encounter w monster? plot. #UFchat
11:45 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat I’m a huge fan of Big Al. *g* #UFchat
11:45 pm JLCoburn: .@J_GriffinB so it’s not as pronounced. Dr M though was suddenly given godlike power and showed what it could do to human emotions. #ufchat
11:45 pm UF_Chat: Q11: There are ways in which the UF MC departs from the horror MC though. What are they? #UFchat
11:45 pm curlyrbr: Hi, #ufchat What’s up today?
11:45 pm GeneDoucette: @UF_Chat bye…! And I would LOVE to talk abt this more, but… well. Buy Immortal sometime. :-) #ufchat
11:45 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Language also needs to be a function of story-If the character is getting verbally abused & gives the antag a slap-down. #ufchat
11:45 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @UF_Chat A11: ass kicking! #UFchat
11:46 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines He’s gotten interesting! Demons usually bore me but he has dimension (punny I know) #UFchat
11:46 pm Jess_Haines: @J_GriffinB Could you explain more? Give an example? #UFchat
11:46 pm J_GriffinB: It’s all good. #ufchat
11:46 pm UF_Chat: @curlyrbr Hiya! Talking about human factor of MCs in UF – MCs usually more than human but why? #UFchat
11:46 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat LOL, yeah. I know exactly what you mean. Cardboard bad guys = no fun. #UFchat
11:47 pm JLCoburn: A11 UF MC is allowed a sense of wonder at what he discovers, opposed to Horror for the other guy. #ufchat
11:47 pm UF_Chat: @Ben_Aaronovitch Agreed – it aggressively turns tables on monsters (mostly) – not just running/scrabbling to survive. #UFchat
11:47 pm J_GriffinB: @Jess_Haines A character that hasn’t a rep for verbal repartee and then trucks out a zinger in response to a situation can be great. #ufchat
11:47 pm JLCoburn: A11 Prime example of mentality differences…Sherlock Holmes vs Chuthlu. A lot of them are written in the same historical timespan #ufchat
11:48 pm shadowflame1974: @JLCoburn I don’t know about that. some of the things my MC sees leaves nasty taste in her mouth #UFchat
11:48 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: @JLCoburn sense of wonder – good point #ufchat
11:48 pm J_GriffinB: I keep thinking of the Turkish giant in Princess Bride. #ufchat
11:48 pm UF_Chat: @JLCoburn Stop and smell the slimebag? ;) Agreed – has options for other aspects other than fear being main motivation. #UFchat
11:48 pm Jess_Haines: @J_GriffinB Oh! Yeah, I like those! #UFchat
11:48 pm UF_Chat: Q11a: Re answers to Q11, is this one of the keys to ?what makes UF ?UF? as opposed to horror or is it more other genre-related? #UFchat
11:48 pm sandrawickham: @UF_Chat A11: Horror is about survival, UF usually is about the mystery, the character, as well as surviving #ufchat
11:48 pm JLCoburn: A11 but how the MCs react to the world around them is so vastly different. #ufchat
11:48 pm jennspiller: @J_GriffinB @Jess_Haines I love reversals in stories. Can be tough to make work, but when they do, they rock. #ufchat
11:49 pm UF_Chat: @jennspiller Agreed! Hard to surprise people & make believable but when works is AWESOME. :) #UFchat
11:49 pm Jess_Haines: @jennspiller @J_GriffinB Mmm, tasty, tasty literary surprises… *g* #UFchat
11:49 pm JLCoburn: @shadowflame1974 True, but a bad taste is vastly different from the abject horror the MC in a horror story would feel. #ufchat
11:49 pm J_GriffinB: and Iñigo Montya’s you keep saying that- I do not think it means what you think it means. #ufchat
11:49 pm Preternatural__: @sandrawickham I agree completely besides the supernatural aspect mystery is one of the key aspects in UF #UFchat
11:50 pm UF_Chat: RT @sandrawickham: @UF_Chat A11: Horror is about survival, UF usually is about the mystery, the character, as well as surviving #ufchat
11:50 pm jennspiller: @Jess_Haines @UF_Chat I think Rachel has to end up with Al, personally. #UFchat
11:50 pm UF_Chat: Q12: When characters we relate to in ‘other among us? stories are in fact ?other? themselves, what does that imply (if anything)? #UFchat
11:50 pm JLCoburn: @J_GriffinB Inconceivable! #ufchat
11:50 pm Jess_Haines: @jennspiller I’m so down with that. #UFchat
11:51 pm jennspiller: @Jess_Haines (But only because Kim has said no to Ivy). #UFchat
11:51 pm Jess_Haines: @jennspiller Heh. I’m just waiting for the other shoe to drop and Trent to get his comeuppance. #UFchat
11:51 pm UF_Chat: @jennspiller That would be interesting. Still feels like set-up is for her to end up with Trent (is that his name? Uber-alpha-Elf?) #UFchat
11:51 pm JLCoburn: A12 Good work bringing the character to life for one. #ufchat
11:52 pm UF_Chat: S: Some argue that UF puts humans ? who have no real predators in our world ? in a position of prey again. #UFchat
11:52 pm UF_Chat: Q13: Is this the reason human MCs are often given ?an edge? ? made more than human themselves? #UFchat
11:52 pm jennspiller: @UF_Chat Yes, I think Trent is the set-up. Since the beginning. Childhood friends and all. But, would be cool if Al falls for Rachel #UFchat
11:52 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Heck yeah. That’s the tastiest kind of UF! #UFchat
11:52 pm jennspiller: @UF_Chat And then Al might have to do something seriously redeeming, knowing he can’t have her. See? Reversal. #UFchat
11:52 pm UF_Chat: Q13a: UF humans rarely plain vanilla?more badass mortals (military traind, xlnt fighters etc). Are plain vanillas not UF-compatible? #UFchat
11:53 pm Ben_Aaronovitch: Bed time for me guys – enjoyed discussion – #ufchat
11:53 pm Jess_Haines: @jennspiller @UF_Chat I think it would be fab if Al did something to redeem himself and ended up with Rachel. #UFchat
11:53 pm JLCoburn: Humans have predators, it’s just most people don’t think of themselves as those predators. #ufchat
11:53 pm shadowflame1974: @Ben_Aaronovitch night! #UFchat
11:53 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Q13a: I’d like to think they are. :P #UFchat
11:53 pm sandrawickham: @Jess_Haines Me too. #ufchat
11:54 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Like Sookie & Bill – no matter the rest still feels like it’s going to be Bill not Eric, mainly b/c of how Bill written #UFchat
11:54 pm jennspiller: Q13 I think anything is possible in the hands of the skilled author #ufchat
11:54 pm UF_Chat: @Ben_Aaronovitch Nighty-night – don’t let the monsters under the bed bite. ;) #UFchat
11:54 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A13a Like I said, they tend to be victims-in-waiting in the worst of fantasy, but they can be quite a bit more. #ufchat
11:54 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Right, exactly. #UFchat
11:54 pm jennspiller: @UF_Chat @Jess_Haines I hope not. I’d love to see Bill crushed under something. And then watch the sun come up. #UFchat
11:55 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Not even taking into account my MC is human, there are books out there with human MCs that are great. Sookie is def. one. #UFchat
11:55 pm UF_Chat: @jennspiller Think this is where craft VERY important in UF – to not subconsciously write preferences in – make outcome true mystery #UFchat
11:55 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Sookie not human tho – telepathy in beginning was almost human but not quite then heritage = def not human. :( #UFchat
11:56 pm UF_Chat: Q13b: What does this do to the hierarchy of ?the food chain? & where does it put the REAL 100% humans in a UF story? #UFchat
11:56 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Oh, hell. Haven’t read very far into the series. Does it turn out she’s not human after all? #UFchat
11:56 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Hehe – looking at next questions – they’re relating to Sookie.. LOL #UFchat
11:56 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat Fearless writing like George RR Martin’s Game of Thrones. Reads like an incredible history. Death/maiming happens, dealwit #ufchat
11:56 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat LOL, should I run away to avoid spoilers? #UFchat
11:56 pm shadowflame1974: one of these nights when I am NOT writing going to have to sign up for nexflix and do some streaming #UFchat
11:57 pm UF_Chat: @Jess_Haines Not massive spoiler so yes, she’s not all human. #UFchat
11:57 pm Jess_Haines: @J_GriffinB YES. God I love George RR. #UFchat
11:57 pm Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat D’OH. Kinda kills my argument. Gimme a minute to think of another one. :D #UFchat
11:57 pm UF_Chat: S: More than 1 UF author cites MC Sookie being an inspiration because of her ?human-woman-ness?. #UFchat
11:57 pm UF_Chat: Q14: Sookie is different (at start of series) due to telepathy so what are the human elements so many people are drawn to? #UFchat
11:57 pm UF_Chat: Q14a: Are there other popular MCs like Sookie in this way? Why/why not? #UFchat
11:58 pm Preternatural__: S14a Plain vanillia humans often become ensign redshirts if they hang out with the paranormals for too long… #UFchat
11:58 pm UF_Chat: Q14b: What about male MCs? Are there any that represent human in a way Sookie did at the start? #UFchat
11:58 pm J_GriffinB: @UF_Chat A14a Lonely hot girl misunderstood by her small town neighbors, what’s not to like? #ufchat
11:58 pm jennspiller: @Preternatural__ LOL, true. Poor redshirt humans. #UFchat
11:58 pm UF_Chat: Got a few questions to go – people want to hang around? (We have a guest author next week so can’t expand for Pt 2) #UFchat
11:58 pm J_GriffinB: @Preternatural__ Yep. #ufchat
11:58 pm Jess_Haines: LOL, redshirt humans? That’s a good way of putting it… #UFchat
11:59 pm JLCoburn: @Preternatural__ Or they’re turned into paranormals in the case of almost everything involving vampires and werewolves. #ufchat
11:59 pm UF_Chat: @jennspiller Red shirt has COMPLETELY entered the vernacular! (love it) #UFchat
11:59 pm Jess_Haines: @JLCoburn Ala Anita Blake? :P #UFchat
11:59 pm J_GriffinB: @Jess_Haines John Ringo, uses the term a lot. Wrote Princess of Wands. Very different UF, very different for Ringo. #ufchat
December 5, 2010
Jess_Haines: @J_GriffinB I’ll have to pick that one up, thanks for the rec! #UFchat
UF_Chat: S: Monsters of myth had to (for most part) become more human to carry character arcs, storylines & believable love interests in UF. #UFchat
JLCoburn: @Jess_Haines Yep…well at least before it became erotica with a splash of UF. #ufchat
UF_Chat: Q15: How did werewolves change to accommodate the UF genre? What humanizes them so readers sympathize? #UFchat
UF_Chat: Q15a: How about vampires? How do they differ ?now? to the traditional monster they were? What makes them relatable? #UFchat
J_GriffinB: @Jess_Haines I know him. My wife keeps bugging me to bug him about writing the sequel. #ufchat
UF_Chat: Q15b: Zombies ? same question ? how are they more human/relatable now than in myth/legend? #UFchat
12:01 am UF_Chat: Q15c: How about demons ? the hottest MC/love interest right now? What?s changed about demons from legends? #UFchat
12:01 am UF_Chat: Q15d: The Fae/fairies are trickier. In many ways are still most alien of all creatures. How do we sympathize with these creatures? #UFchat
12:01 am Jess_Haines: I liked how @mark_henry turned his human MC into something unusual. Anyone else read his stuff? #UFchat
12:01 am leapetra: Q15a too many writers are making vampires “nice” that has to stop! #ufchat
12:01 am J_GriffinB: Gotta go hang lights before dark. See you all next week, if I am free. #ufchat
12:01 am JLCoburn: Welp…gotta get the kids up and get ready for a parade. #ufchat
12:02 am Jess_Haines: @J_GriffinB You should! :) Always good to have more good books in the genre. #UFchat
12:02 am leapetra: Q15 Werewolves could have the easiest time adapting to human life #ufchat
12:02 am UF_Chat: @leapetra Agreed – emo-monsters with no teeth = soapy. NOT kickass-sexy. #UFchat
12:02 am shadowflame1974: Weres had to open up to their human side. Vamps had to be more than just bloodsuckers #UFchat
12:02 am jennspiller: @leapetra True. Nice Vamps make no sense. Part of the allure is the danger. #ufchat
12:02 am UF_Chat: S: Saw twitter question asking how to make troll-like inhuman creature be a believable love interest/have sex sc readers will like. #UFchat
12:02 am Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Ick, just read one like this recently. HATE that. #UFchat
12:03 am leapetra: @UF_Chat They are not even vampires anymore. Vampires = fear. Fear of death, sex, etc #ufchat
12:03 am UF_Chat: Q15e: If troll-like creature can?t transform/glamour someone is it possible to bring readers on board with a human/troll mating? #UFchat
12:03 am sandrawickham: @Jess_Haines Haven’t read Mark’s yet, but really want to. Big fan of his just from twitter, goodreads, Bitten By Books, etc.#ufchat
12:03 am shadowflame1974: @UF_Chat anything is possible :D #UFchat
12:03 am UF_Chat: S: The ultimate story asking what is a monster and what does it mean to be human is Mary Shelley?s Frankenstein. #UFchat
12:03 am Jess_Haines: @sandrawickham You should! Read the first two books, they were hysterical (and totally politically incorrect). #UFchat
12:03 am jennspiller: @UF_Chat Well, Laurel K has Mercy have sex with the tentacle guy. People kept reading. #UFchat
12:04 am UF_Chat: S cont: BTW Frankenstein holds many parallels with Blade Runner ? movie many UF books compared to. (check Google for essays) #UFchat
12:04 am leapetra: Q15e depends on the troll, in myths some of them had no trouble taking human wives or husbands #ufchat
12:04 am UF_Chat: Q16: If Frankenstein were transplanted into our times, would it ?fit? in UF genre? Why? #UFchat
12:04 am Delphinios1: RT @leapetra: Q15 Werewolves could have the easiest time adapting to human life #ufchat
12:04 am J_GriffinB: Buhbye #ufchat
12:04 am UF_Chat: @jennspiller I didn’t get that far… #UFchat
12:05 am shadowflame1974: @J_GriffinB bye #UFchat
12:05 am UF_Chat: (Note: Dean Koontz has a multi vol series based on Frankenstein) – 2 questions left! #UFchat
12:05 am UF_Chat: @J_GriffinB Bye – thanks for hanging out so long! #UFchat
12:05 am UF_Chat: Q17: In the phrase ?it made him seem extremely human? (context up to you) ? what does the word ?human? imply? #UFchat
12:06 am jennspiller: @UF_Chat Q16: Frankenstein as uber-scientist whose creation turns on him. More like sci-fi in modern times. #UFchat
12:06 am UF_Chat: @jennspiller Design your own… baby-monster? ;) #UFchat
12:06 am Jess_Haines: @UF_Chat Q17: That they have said something or performed some action that makes them sympathetic to humanity or “normal” somehow. #UFchat
12:07 am jennspiller: @UF_Chat Really? Koontz? I forgot he existed. It has been forever since I read him. Must look him back up. #UFchat
12:07 am shadowflame1974: @jennspiller what if it were science trying to recreate a monster and well the real monsters have to come out and fight it #UFchat
12:07 am Jess_Haines: @jennspiller @UF_Chat I haven’t read much Koontz for a while either. Be curious if the new stuff is any good. #UFchat
12:07 am UF_Chat: To me ‘human’ (in that sentence) implies – fragile, mortal, vulnerable, lovable, emotive, fallible… #UFchat
12:08 am UF_Chat: FINAL BIG Q: What DOES it mean to be human? And how does that impact creating & reading characters in UF? #UFchat
12:08 am DawnEmbers: @UF_Chat that’s an excellent question. #UFchat
12:08 am leapetra: BIG Q: If I knew the answer. I wouldn’t have to write. #ufchat
12:09 am UF_chat2: @Jess_Haines I liked the 1st two in the series but long time between so lost momentum – have to re-read before finishing series now. #UFchat
12:09 am shadowflame1974: human= something like the rest of use. emotions, physical appearance, social responses, no matter if they are special or not #UFchat
12:09 am yobyh: RT @leapetra: BIG Q: If I knew the answer. I wouldn’t have to write. #ufchat
12:09 am UF_chat2: @DawnEmbers Thanks – was whole reason for chat topic really. ;) #UFchat
12:10 am UF_chat2: @leaptra Also fabulous answer! Agreed – that’s one of the big reasons we’re all writing. #UFchat
12:10 am jennspiller: We like the idea of human. Hence the Kirk line: “Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most… human.” #ufchat
12:11 am UF_chat2: That?s a wrap for #UFchat today! We have a GUEST AUTHOR with us for a Q&A next week! #UFchat
12:11 am Jess_Haines: @UF_chat Wow, having a hard time pondering that last question. That’s a biggie. Encompasses so much… #UFchat
12:11 am jennspiller: We like what we relate to. “Inhuman” is almost always an insult #ufchat
12:11 am UF_chat2: Please RT: UF author Merrie Destefano will be joining us in #UFchat on Dec 11 to discuss her book Afterlife & more!
12:11 am shadowflame1974: RT @UF_chat2: Please RT: UF author Merrie Destefano will be joining us in #UFchat on Dec 11 to discuss her book Afterlife & more! #UFchat
12:11 am Jess_Haines: RT @UF_chat2: Please RT: UF author Merrie Destefano will be joining us in #UFchat on Dec 11 to discuss her book Afterlife & more!
12:11 am UF_chat2: Got a topic you want to chat about? Let me know! (@inkgypsy) I?ll add it to the list & maybe even bump up the chat-date for it. #UFchat
12:11 am UF_chat2: Some additional resources on being human in a sea of supernaturals in UF – next: #UFchat
12:12 am UF_chat2: Today?s primer for #UFchat early birds was: Jane True: Nobody?s Straight Man http://bit.ly/d4DpfH #UFchat
12:12 am sandrawickham: @UF_Chat Big Q: I’ll take a stab-conflicting emotions, strong relationships (good/bad), extremes of emotions, self-doubt (?) LOL! #ufchat
12:12 am UF_chat2: Plot patterns and the Urban Fantasy Genre http://bit.ly/enRxeo #UFchat
12:12 am miranda00writes: RT @UF_chat2: Please RT: UF author Merrie Destefano will be joining us in #UFchat on Dec 11 to discuss her book Afterlife & more!
12:12 am UF_chat2: Urban Fantasy: It?s All the Same! (by Marci Sischo) http://bit.ly/e2nYQ6 #UFchat
12:12 am UF_chat2: A Guide to Vampire Fiction with Real Bite http://bit.ly/hw5Eat #UFchat
12:12 am Wulfie_: RT @shadowflame1974: RT @UF_chat2: Please RT: UF author Merrie Destefano will be joining us in #UFchat on Dec 11 to discuss her book Afterlife & more! #UFchat
12:12 am UF_chat2: The Allure of Urban Fantasy (long & interesting ? discusses monster forms heroines get involved with) http://bit.ly/fYn6sG #UFchat
12:12 am sandrawickham: @jennspiller Ooooh. Nice…quotes the captain. LOL #ufchat
12:13 am UF_chat2: What Does It Mean To Be Human? Personal/Moral values ? 22 articles http://bit.ly/gOGtLx #UFchat
12:13 am UF_chat2: What Does It Mean To Be A Monster? (serious questions & answers on Yahoo) http://yhoo.it/fHvNRt #UFchat
12:13 am UF_chat2: #UFchat transcript available on the #UFchat blog in 48hrs-ish, allowing for late comments. Just use the hashtag.
12:13 am Jess_Haines: I think being human means having emotion, weakness, vulnerability, etc. There is no such thing as perfection for (cont) :D #UFchat
12:14 am Jess_Haines: humanity (unless we’re talking Ryan Reynolds.) :D #UFchat
12:15 am UF_chat2: @Jess_Haines LOL! LOve it. #UFchat
12:15 am UF_chat2: Happy silly season! Remember all strange-ers you meet out there are human too ?just like you! (scary, huh?) @UF_Chat lights out. #UFchat
12:15 am ganymeder: OMG that is so true. Hello people, theyre MONSTERS! >RT @leapetra Q15a too many writers are making vampires “nice” that has to stop! #ufchat
12:16 am jennspiller: @sandrawickham LOl. Not a trekkie per se, but my dog’s name *is* Data. All my dogs have thought they were human. #ufchat
12:16 am UF_chat2: @Jess_Haines Thx for coming & participating! Was great to have your input. You can grill @MerrieDestefano next wk if you like. ;) #UFchat
12:17 am inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines In case you’re wondering #UFchat is on almost every Sat. :) (breaking for Xmas/New Yrs but otherwise usually happening)
12:17 am Jess_Haines: @UF_chat2 Anytime! Thanks for inviting me! over :) #UFchat
12:18 am shadowflame1974: Thanks for chatting with us today everyone! Great conversation. #UFchat
12:19 am sandrawickham: @shadowflame1974 Thanks, I’m glad you directed me over to #ufchat -I’ll be back!! :)
12:19 am UF_chat2: Awesome chat today everyone! Thanks for hanging out a little longer – next week we have Merrie Destefano as our guest UF author! #UFchat
12:19 am inkgypsy: Awesome chat today everyone! Thanks for hanging out a little longer – next week we have Merrie Destefano as our guest UF author! #UFchat
12:20 am jennspiller: Great chat. I will definitely be checking in again after the new year. (Traveling next week). #ufchat
12:21 am inkgypsy: @Jess_Haines UFchat blog: http://bit.ly/cP9ghr Easy run down of previous topics w links here: http://bit.ly/enKFtP :) #UFchat
12:21 am Wulfie_: #UFchat Was an interesting discussion. Thanks.
12:21 am Jess_Haines: Yeah, this was great fun, guys! Nice chatting with you all! #UFchat
12:22 am sandrawickham: Had a great time over at #UFchat and now it’s time to get some serious editing done on my #20spec story! (thanks again @inkgypsy )
12:23 am inkgypsy: @Wulfie_ Thanks for lurking. ;) (We love lurkers too – always feel free to wave hi tho) :) #UFchat
12:23 am inkgypsy: @sandrawickham You’re very welcome! Hope to see you in the chat again. #UFchat
12:26 am soniawrite: I guess I am late huh? #UFchat
12:35 am inkgypsy: Amanda Feral – our fave glam zombie – has an erotica gift for us for ‘Kinkmas!’ LOL #UFchat RT @mark_henry http://bit.ly/aVVE5Y
12:36 am inkgypsy: @soniawrite Sorry sweetie – we just finished up! But lots to read in transcript! Busy fun chat today. :) (& guest author next week!) #UFchat
7:22 am AnassaRh: Excellent post on writing superpowers (comics, UF, etc.)! http://bit.ly/hR2yKU #ufchat (Dunno if related to today’s topic or not, but cool.)
8:55 am AnassaRh: A2: Is Alexia from the Parasol Protectorate considered human? She’s mortal and all, but no soul? #ufchat
8:57 am AnassaRh: A2: For the first 3? 4? books of the Blood series, the MC is human. Has a vamp to do the superpower stuff for her. #ufchat
8:59 am AnassaRh: A3: I think in UF ‘human’ means “feels like a human”. Sympathetic chars, chars trying to be human, chars who were raised human, etc. #ufchat
9:01 am AnassaRh: It’s not so much a genetic thing as a mental thing. Also, a lot of UF follows MC Discovers World of X pattern. #ufchat
9:02 am AnassaRh: Where X can mean “the whole magical underground” or “vamp culture” or “demon summoning ritual” or whatever. Stories about discovery. #ufchat
9:02 am AnassaRh: RT @Preternatural__: I think that the struggle is mostly to see that the paranormal doesn’t swallow the human aspect of the characters whole #UFchat
9:10 am AnassaRh: A3a: Uncertainty, compassion, flaws and quirks, ability to make mistakes. #ufchat
9:12 am AnassaRh: Agreed. RT @jessrosenbooks: #UFchat A paranormal char seems more human when s/he is in conflict w/para abilities. Doesn’t want them.
9:13 am AnassaRh: Also when they’re trying to save humans, or are going up against huge odds. A lot’s in the voice too, I think. #ufchat
9:17 am AnassaRh: A4: Coolness factor. Writer trying to even the odds a little. Making the world more believable to reader, or accessible to MC. #ufchat
9:18 am AnassaRh: Expanding on the accessibility: For plot to work, MC may need knowledge of magic prior to page one, so they get a magic background. #ufchat
9:19 am AnassaRh: A5: Again, coolness factor. Also wish fulfillment. If only I had stamina, that sixth sense, that ability to leap small buildings? #ufchat
9:22 am AnassaRh: A5 And yes, there are also fewer boundaries and more possibilities for stories with a “special” MC. More room to play, and to escape.#ufchat
9:26 am AnassaRh: A6: MCs, human or not, tend to be kickass, action before thinking types, who are always broke and love snark. #ufchat
9:26 am AnassaRh: They either know what they’re doing (or think they do), or muddle their way through the plot. #ufchat
9:27 am AnassaRh: And @shadowflame brought up a good point. Normal = law enforcement to some degree. #ufchat
9:32 am AnassaRh: A7: Again, there’s an element of wish fulfillment and escapism in that tendency, but we’re likely drawing on the trad. model too. #ufchat
9:34 am AnassaRh: And humans have to be pretty smart and strong to nearly die during 10 subsequent climax scenes. Easier to pull off with super MCs. #ufchat
9:35 am AnassaRh: I think most of my answers apply to multiple questions here. What I just said also applies to Q8. #ufchat
9:37 am AnassaRh: A8a: Disadvantages to powers? Having to describe them, come up with new ways to use them, extrapolate how they’ll affect daily life. #ufchat
9:38 am AnassaRh: A8a: Also, writer has to fight inclination to make MC more powerful every book. At some point, that wrecks the story. #ufchat
9:44 am AnassaRh: A9: To balance things, create foils. The MC will ID better with more-than-human partners than mere humans. Also, coolness factor. ;) #ufchat
9:46 am AnassaRh: @Preternatural__ Heh, no. Canadian night owl whose work conflicted with #ufchat today. :( Gotta love Christmas.
9:51 am AnassaRh: A10: MC has to feel human to the reader. See previous comments re: what ‘human’ means. We need someone to root for. #ufchat
9:53 am AnassaRh: Nice! RT @leapetra: in a story still buried on my hard drive. An atheist gets god like powers. Still won’t accept there are gods #ufchat
9:58 am AnassaRh: A11: UF MC takes charge and generally knows what they’re doing, how they can fight back. Horror MC just runs, can’t stop monster. #ufchat
10:02 am AnassaRh: A12 I suppose we could get philosophical and say, “we see ourselves as the Other”, as outcasts and freaks and different. #ufchat
10:03 am AnassaRh: Alternatively, it could imply we want powers, to be that person (or type) on some level. Or?just that we want to be strong? #ufchat
10:05 am AnassaRh: A13a Vanilla humans can totally be UF MCs! Just harder to fit them into mystery/action stories. See de Lint and similar fantasy. #ufchat
10:06 am AnassaRh: And honestly, I’d LOVE more vanilla (or at least non-cop-type) humans in mystery UF! Could make an arc about /learning/ to be badass.#ufchat
10:09 am AnassaRh: A14 Have only read Dead Until Dark so: liked her voice, liked her strength, liked her friendliness and average job, liked her morals.#ufchat
10:10 am AnassaRh: She felt very much like an everywoman. She takes time for people, cares, grieves, etc. #ufchat
10:12 am AnassaRh: Not true. If MC doesn’t /like/ them, they live! RT @Preternatural__: S14a Plain vanilla humans often become ensign redshirts #UFchat
10:14 am AnassaRh: A15 I’ve seen the comment a lot that UF werewolves are actually weredogs in terms of pack structure. #ufchat
10:15 am Preternatural__: @AnassaRh No, the one’s they like. They’re either redshirts or a chink in their amour that almost gets them killed book in book out #UFchat
10:15 am AnassaRh: For any monster, if they’re the MC, they’re trying to deny their heritage in some way, or atone for it. #ufchat
10:17 am AnassaRh: @Preternatural__ Agreed. But a human antagonist has a much better change of survival than a friend does. #ufchat
10:17 am AnassaRh: I’d like to see more human sidekicks who /don’t/ die at some point. @Preternatural__ #ufchat
10:18 am AnassaRh: A15a Vamps, for instance, don’t drink human blood, or try not to, or wangst. They’re basically humans with powers. Not scary. #ufchat
10:18 am jolantru: @AnassaRh Perhaps, UF werewolves behave like weredogs because they adapt to city life? #ufchat
10:19 am AnassaRh: @jolantru Perhaps, but I’d imagine rural werewolves would also be weredogs, at least in the hands of most writers. #ufchat
10:22 am jolantru: @AnassaRh Mmmm. Good point there. #ufchat
10:22 am AnassaRh: A15d: We see them from outside, like with Toby Daye (half-fae, doesn’t really /like/ Faerie), or they do something likeable. #ufchat
10:22 am AnassaRh: @jolantru Feral weredogs, on the other hand? #ufchat
10:24 am AnassaRh: A15e: Don’t see why not, but would take some thinking. Also depends on what troll looks like, and if MC had kinks. #ufchat
10:26 am AnassaRh: A16 Dunno if Frankenstein would fit as UF as is. Franky does a lot of running from monster (horror). If monster was the MC ? yeah. #ufchat
10:27 am jolantru: @AnassaRh … would be interesting to write, I think… ;) #ufchat
10:27 am AnassaRh: ?And just got plot bunny! Constructed man seeks revenge on creator over series, runs into mysteries everywhere creator flees. #ufchat
10:29 am AnassaRh: A17 ‘Human’ refers to mental/personality characteristics. Going back to earlier answers here: quirks and flaws, fallible, weak. #ufchat
10:30 am AnassaRh: I think there’s a touch of “made him seem normal” in there too. Phrase never said of Joe Average, always of Extraordinary people. #ufchat
6:09 pm hannahnpbowman: @AnassaRh That is a great idea! #ufchat
10:33 pm MerrieDestefano: Very excited! Will be chatting with @InkGypsy about AFTERLIFE next Sat. at 3 p.m. on #UFchat.
December 6, 2010
1:56 am inkgypsy: @MerrieDestefano We have another family thingo I have to leave for shortly but very excited about Sat! AFTERLIFE seriously ROCKS! #UFchat
2:29 am cvaldezmiller: @J_GriffinB Ohhh, a #UFchat. Cool. Will be sure to look out for the next one. I didn’t realize they had one every Saturday…
5:23 pm MerrieDestefano: Have any questions you’d like to ask about AFTERLIFE? Join me on #UFchat this Saturday, 3 p.m. PST. http://bit.ly/bPEVlz
8:34 pm LunaLindsey: RT @seattlewinegal: Absolute best ‘Lost Pet’ sign I have ever seen! http://twitpic.com/3dimyd #urbanfantasy #ufchat
11:07 pm jimnduncan: #UFchat folk. Giving away an arc of Deadworld. Simple, yet fun entry at http://bit.ly/e6OePW
11:44 pm KellyHGay: Ends tomorrow. :) RT @AnassaRh I’m giving away books by @katrchrdsn, @devonmonk, @KellyHGay, and DD Barant! http://bit.ly/hntFsn #ufchat
December 7, 2010
12:09 am Tanya1224: RT @KellyHGay: Ends tomorrow. :) RT @AnassaRh I’m giving away books by @katrchrdsn, @devonmonk, @KellyHGay, and DD Barant! http://bit.ly/hntFsn #ufchat
9:45 am inkgypsy: Best of UF 2010 by Preternatural! :) #UFchat RT @Preternatural__: Best of 2010 list http://bit.ly/dE5sHO
1:25 pm Preternatural__: RT @Richard_Kadrey: RT @Preternatural__: KILL THE DEAD was #2 in this year’s Best of 2010 on my site http://bit.ly/dE5sHO #UFChat
6:01 pm MerrieDestefano: Join me and @InkGypsy as we discuss themes of death and life in Urban Fantasy. This Saturday on #UFchat, 3 p.m. PST. #AFTERLIFE
6:08 pm VampBookClub: RT @MerrieDestefano: Join me and @InkGypsy as we discuss themes of death and life in Urban Fantasy. This Saturday on #UFchat, 3 p.m. PST. #AFTERLIFE

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END OF TRANSCRIPT FOR DECEMBER 4th, 2010

Nest week we have a special guest author Q&A with Merrie Destefano!

She’s the author of the futuristic UF novel “Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles” and has co-authored the Walter Foster book “How to Draw Zombies” – obviously she’s no stranger to the undead..! ;)

My mini-review:

You have to read her New Orleans based, futuristic UF “Afterlife” -
beautiful, lush writing with that wonderful sense of immediacy and wit
we love in UF! It’s an ode to the city and to hope and you won’t be able
to put it down till you’re done – a stunning debut!

We’ll be talking about how life and death are handled in urban fantasy next week as well as looking at “Afterlife: The Resurrection Chronicles” AND….

(drumroll please)

We’re having a giveaway!

A signed copy of Merrie’s novel AFTERLIFE!

You need to participate in next week’s #UFchat to qualify for entry.

Each person asking Merrie a question will be given a number and then the winner will be chosen by random.org immediately after the chat!

Stay tuned to @UF_Chat on Twitter for countdowns and updates.

See you next week and bring your questions so you can be entered to win a signed copy of Merrie’s excellent debut novel “AFTERLIFE”!

Gypsy (@inkgypsy)

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